COLUMNIST KEN BUCKLEY
Yes or No:? The Dilemma
By Ken Buckley : 24/07/2007 : 
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With ballot papers almost ready, it's make your mind up time. That is the crux of my problem ? making my mind up. With all the information coming from club, media and websites, I am hard pressed to seperate fact from fiction.
Comments (10) : - Will leaving the City be the beginning of the end for our club?
- Can GP really be redeveloped to the standard required?
- Are the last-minute land and partner suggestions, without any
Add to this our poor show in the tranafer market over the last years in terms of attracting top-class International players in their prime and it's clear to me that something must be done, so that should put me in the YES camp.
So what to do? What's best for our club? Whichever way I vote, and as I dont possess a crystal ball, only the fullness of time will decide if I was right or wrong and by then it will probably be my grandchildren's grandchildren who will ask the question, "Who the hell got that vote right/wrong in 2007?"
When faced with the ballot paper, I believe I will see if Last-MinuteStadiums.com has come up with a concrete deliverable proposal that I can latch onto. If yes, it's NO; if no, its YES. UP THE BLUES
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I take it Pete youv’e no sense of identity.
We all have identify........we are evertonians. What identify will we have in championship? That is where we will be in 5 years unless we can keep up financially with clubs like Newcastle, West Ham, Aston Villa etc. Particularly if the Moyes witch hunt continues and we lose him as well.
I agree Mike, Shaun get in the real world - football in 2007 doesn’t take into account history or heritage. I’m afraid its sink or swim - and I would rather swim.
I’ve been an Everton supporter for more than 20 years. If it were possible to stay at Goodison I’d love that, but if we look realistic on this we need to move... and I for one would rather have Everton in the PL fighting for europeanglory with a stadium a few feet on the other side of a line on a map, than fighting for survival in the PL or even in the championship with a new stadium in the middle of Liverpool and a huge debt that makes it extremely hard for us to get new players in.
I’ll continue to support Everton no matter what and where we play. It sounds like many (Not all by far) No-sayers has this notion that if we move there, Everton is 500 miles away and therefore noone in Liverpool will be able to support the club. They would rather have the club build their stadium at the furthest away you could get it if it’s in the boundry of Liverpool than the few yards on the other side of a line on a map.
I want what’s best for Everton and what it needs to do to keep us fighting in Europe... if it was REASONABLE possible for us to do that at Goodison all the better.. but it isn’t. It’s a sad fact.
I want to be able to look back 50 years from now, with my younger relatives and be able to name GREAT international players who has named Everton their homeclub... without having to go back to players who have retired already. If we don’t keep up with the other clubs.. I fear that those players won’t come here.
I’ll continue to support Everton no matter what and where we play. It sounds like many (Not all by far) No-sayers has this notion that if we move there, Everton is 500 miles away and therefore noone in Liverpool will be able to support the club. They would rather have the club build their stadium at the furthest away you could get it if it’s in the boundry of Liverpool than the few yards on the other side of a line on a map.
I want what’s best for Everton and what it needs to do to keep us fighting in Europe... if it was REASONABLE possible for us to do that at Goodison all the better.. but it isn’t. It’s a sad fact.
I want to be able to look back 50 years from now, with my younger relatives and be able to name GREAT international players who has named Everton their homeclub... without having to go back to players who have retired already. If we don’t keep up with the other clubs.. I fear that those players won’t come here.
New ground no soul. No heartbeat. Dixie must be bangin on his coffin lid. You cant put goodison in a dumper truck.Are you all mad?.Would you knock down St Georges Hall,The adelphi hotel .Paddys wigwam,The Liverbuildind or the Albert Dock.No i thought as much.
Goodison park must be a listed building,if it isnt it should be so leave the old lady alone.
Stay at goodison forever, pissoff Kenwright back to Broadway.Give us someone with a soul..spend the telly money ya tight gets.Bring back sterry milk in me tea.make bigger eccles cakes.and i want a free programme with me matchday ticket.THATS HOW YOU RUN A FOOTBALL CLUB.
Goodison park must be a listed building,if it isnt it should be so leave the old lady alone.
Stay at goodison forever, pissoff Kenwright back to Broadway.Give us someone with a soul..spend the telly money ya tight gets.Bring back sterry milk in me tea.make bigger eccles cakes.and i want a free programme with me matchday ticket.THATS HOW YOU RUN A FOOTBALL CLUB.
Well said Pete.
We move I’ll still be attending the games.
However lads. New stadium won’t end our problems. Still not guarenteed Europe or to challenge for anything. I just feel we are not being told the whole both sides of the story and I find it quite diffucult to make a educated decision on the vote.
Up the toffees
We move I’ll still be attending the games.
However lads. New stadium won’t end our problems. Still not guarenteed Europe or to challenge for anything. I just feel we are not being told the whole both sides of the story and I find it quite diffucult to make a educated decision on the vote.
Up the toffees
How can a gang of yankees across the park harness a greater appreciation and sense of what a new stadium should be all about than so-called True Blues???
I think the artist impressions of the kirkby project are utter shite. All 4 stands look the same, it is an identi-kit stadium not fit for us.
To move out of the city boundaries would need a world-class stad, like Liverpools new one. A shit stad like the one proposed would be accepted by me if it meant being built on Scotland Road, not Kirkby.
I can’t vote, but I urge others to vote NO simply because the tits calling the shots have not produced something good enough to last us 100 years.
I think the artist impressions of the kirkby project are utter shite. All 4 stands look the same, it is an identi-kit stadium not fit for us.
To move out of the city boundaries would need a world-class stad, like Liverpools new one. A shit stad like the one proposed would be accepted by me if it meant being built on Scotland Road, not Kirkby.
I can’t vote, but I urge others to vote NO simply because the tits calling the shots have not produced something good enough to last us 100 years.
Why do all the yes voters think we are going to benefit from a new stadium in Kirkby ?
As has been numerously reported on here Everton already have to discount their corporate facilities to attract clients.
I know, owning a corporate entity and having been approached by the club.Take a look a the empty seats in the Main Stand from which I and 400 others were personaly evicted by the so called peoples club, without so much as a letter of explaination. When Fat Bastard did explain, it was all about attracting higher corporate revenues revenues so surely you understand !!! Well it did not work Beefy and it will not work out in Kirkby ! Discounted facilitues or otherwise Kirkby will not attract serious Corporate fans.
Anyone trusting this proven liar of a CEO and Billy Bullshit over such an issue is at best misguided. Have a really good think before you cast your vote people, this board aint fit to run our club, they lack the expertise.
As has been numerously reported on here Everton already have to discount their corporate facilities to attract clients.
I know, owning a corporate entity and having been approached by the club.Take a look a the empty seats in the Main Stand from which I and 400 others were personaly evicted by the so called peoples club, without so much as a letter of explaination. When Fat Bastard did explain, it was all about attracting higher corporate revenues revenues so surely you understand !!! Well it did not work Beefy and it will not work out in Kirkby ! Discounted facilitues or otherwise Kirkby will not attract serious Corporate fans.
Anyone trusting this proven liar of a CEO and Billy Bullshit over such an issue is at best misguided. Have a really good think before you cast your vote people, this board aint fit to run our club, they lack the expertise.
True Evertonians must vote no to any move until all avenues of staying in the city have been explored... dont believe the club when they say its the only option... they are trying to do it on the cheap through tesco...
everton prides itself on its history and tradition, lets not sell our soul to the devil just to play in a lifeless bowl with half empty corporate boxes...
everton prides itself on its history and tradition, lets not sell our soul to the devil just to play in a lifeless bowl with half empty corporate boxes...
What’s this about "True Everonians must vote no"?? Just becuse you don’t like the move, doesn’t mean other Evertonians won’t like it. TRUE Evertonians wants what’s best for the club, regardless of what’s best for themselves. If LCC come to us tomorrow with a new proposition for a stadium, perfectly placed in the city for a similar amount of money required from EFC... I’d want to know more before making my choise (if I could vote that is). But we’ve already given LCC YEARS to give us something concrete and realistic locations to build this stadium. We asked for the location where Liverpool is going to build their stadium and got a no, they asked shortly afterwards and got a yes. The proposal they threw out to us last week I think it was, was rejected by their own experts as a bad idea. That shows how interested they are and how much time they have given this question over the last years.
Why waste this opportunity that’s, lets face it, a once in a lifetime opportunity to get a new stadium on the cheap... Just to give some board that has not shown any true interest in us more years that see us tramping at the same place?
And with regard to our soul. Why continue to sell our soul to a LCC that doesn’t care about us? We’ve already been there and they took a look at it and rejected it. I’d rather keep my pride and soul as an Evertonian than hope for some crumbles from a LCC that doesn’t think we’re worthy of something similar to the other team in the city.
Why waste this opportunity that’s, lets face it, a once in a lifetime opportunity to get a new stadium on the cheap... Just to give some board that has not shown any true interest in us more years that see us tramping at the same place?
And with regard to our soul. Why continue to sell our soul to a LCC that doesn’t care about us? We’ve already been there and they took a look at it and rejected it. I’d rather keep my pride and soul as an Evertonian than hope for some crumbles from a LCC that doesn’t think we’re worthy of something similar to the other team in the city.
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If the team does well in Kirkby I can’t see us loosing fan support. It’s still on Merseyside... we move a few miles. I’d be more suspect of a move to the other side of the city. That would tear up the team from it’s roots more.
Don’t think GP can be rebuilt into a stadium we need, and the team deserve, many years into the future. It has served us great and let us never forget that, but we have to move on if we want to keep on the track with the rest of the world.
We’re going to need to move sooner or later. We missed out on Kings Dock a few years ago.. now we have another location and a stadium which won’t place us in deep debt, we have a partner willing to stand for much cost and with connections to reduce the cost of building it. Don’t let another great opportunity go to waste because of a line on a map noone sees.