Not worth a column

Oh John, how I dearly want to trash the column you have just written but I can’t.................simple reason for that is that every word is true AND WE ALL KNOW IT.

The evidence is there before our very eyes and the low whine of the pink tinted be-spectacled who always come up with the ’on the right track’.....’better times ahead under our David’ should not detract from the truth of the words posted by people like yourself and Mr Marsh.

You will be insulted , vilified and even worse called a closet red shite but at the end of the day the truth will out..................YOU ARE RIGHT !

Wisely you can see that nothing will change at Goodison until a new owner takes over the club and performs the colonic irrigation the our Mr Kenrick so opposes. I wonder why he believes that BK and DM can turn things around........evidence ???????

You speak of alternatives to Plan A but I believe we have two main choices as supporters

1) Accept that BK ownes the club and will not be moving on until his price and demands are met.
David Moyes will not be removed simply because some of us feel he is out of his depth. He has a contract and will stay for as long as he feels he wants to. As fans our opinions are of no consequence to the men who own and run this club

If the above guarantees a further period of mediocrity then that is the ’choice’ on offer.

2) The alternative is to protest any or all of the above as loudly and as rudely as you wish on this site and others but in the end the sole remedy to such bitterness is to turn your back on the club and walk away from a business that may be awash with television money today but which is far from the institution that many of we older supporters have enjoyed beinga part of over the years.

Football has changed and because of a number of factors that conspired against our hopes , Everton has been left behind.

When Alex Ferguson took over at Old Trafford , Everton was the champion of England . We were the power house . We were the big guys then although I suspect many of our younger readers will dismiss that as fantasy. I know................I was there !

Times change and today we struggle as our stadium ages and if consolation exists it is that the young fans of Everton today do not have to suffer the taunts that my son’s generation did when the team across the park were lords of England and kings of Europe.

There will be no trophies for the city this season ......red or blue .........and if that leads to the sudden removal of Ridiculous Rafa and his pervy facial hair , maybe it will do little more than underline the contrast in ambition between Liverpool and Everton.

Maybe Moyes is the man for the job if mediocrity and a pronounced lack of style on the field is the height of Mr Kenwright’s ambition for Everton.

More of the same , John ?

I think we both know the answer to that !

All topics and issues aside , all and sundry have to realise that this club is unlikely to ever win the top flight league again. Not in our lifetimes anyway. 1987 seems so far away as does that great day out in 95. I have seen a lot of managers come and go in my time as an evertonian. Since the days of howard (1st time around) we have not really achieved anything. of course the said cup win will always be there in the history books but one piece of silverware in 20 years is simply for a club of our stature. The fans expect, and deserve success but sadly that is out of our hands now. I can say this- I am old enough to have enjoyed the delights of the mid 1980s albeit they were short lived. By the summer of 87 I was leaving school, Howard departed for Bilbao and we have have been on a downward spiral ever since. well not really that, but once Gray, Lineker and Reid left we were never really the same. The unfortunate events of heysel attributed to the scum across the park put paid to a possible european cup win in 86. Also speaking of the red shite a defeat for them is equally a good a win is for us. For all those "Moyes out" people, just goes to show what class of supporters you are. Alright, he arrived from preston five years ago and has yet to win anything. Do you feel that under any other manager we would have achieved anything. Not always the case. Fourth and fifth place finishes recently fighting with the absurd extornionate finances of bigger clubs is not an achievement to be sneezed at. I could go on but im not going to. Other arguments for other times, people.

John,just another five years and its league winners,CL winners .new stadium. you know it makes sense

Spot on John.

Glen, you talk of 2 choices. Either passively accept continuing mediocrity (3 top 7 finishes in 5 years, considering how far we’d fallen behind, is this mediocrity?), or walk away from the club.

I think you’re missing a third choice - supporting the team. Imagine how much better our team could be with 35,000 Evertonians cheering them on. Isn’t that what we go to the match for?

Believe me, I am as gutted as everyone else when we get beat, but I don’t use every defeat as an excuse to demand BK/DM must go, along with half the team. I think they’d all perform much better with some encouragement and support (the clue’s in the name: supporter)

To those who seem to have interpreted this as a call for Moyes’ head. It isn’t. I have never once called for Moyes to leave and, at this point, I don’t envisage doing so in the near future. He’s earned himself more time at Everton due to his past achievements (not matter how much some belittle them) and as others have pointed out, a mediocre (not disastrous note) month is not a season.

I simply note that to continue receiving my backing (for what it’s worth) he must start to show some ways of dealing with the problems that face us and find some answers to the questions which have been posed continuously from the start of the season. Moyes clearly has failed to come up with answers so far but that doesn’t detract from the positives which come with his management nor the dignity I feel he brings to our club.

Incidentally I don’t believe this nonsense about never winning the league again. Maybe not in the next few years but times change and teams can fall apart as well as being built.

There is still progress to be made at Everton and progress which can be made. I’m willing to indulge Moyes some time longer as he seeks to achieve that. He’s built a good squad but he needs to find ways to get the best out of them and at the moment he’s struggling with that but he deserves more time to come up with answers.

John’s right!

It’s no good, how ever true and accturate it might be, to blame the sins of the centre-mid or RBack or where ever on the sinners themselves. love the sinner but hate the sin.

Blame the man who consistantly plays square pegs in round holes.
And no, Moyes won’t be going anywhere soon. This is now, more or less, the team that Davie built. If it isn’t playing, in 2yrs, a better type of football than now. then I hope and think that Mr Moyes (ship steadier of this parish) won’t be worring about the best way to get to Kirkby!!