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On the derby scrap and Seamus Coleman
Although it's against Chelsea and I've pretty much stopped expecting us to beat any of the Sky Four now, preferring to be surprised now when it does happen I'm glad our next game after the derby defeat has come around so soon because it'll be nice to reflect on something other than the crushing disappointment at Anfield on Saturday.
The new adage that it can be harder to play against 10 men than 11 these days certainly seems to hold true but the fact that our attempts to break Liverpool down were so weak and so bereft of any guile has me genuinely concerned, particularly for our hopes in the Europa League.
A couple of things said in the aftermath of Saturday bemused me, though, first of which was the contention by David Moyes and that objectionable arsehole, Steven Gerrard, that fans love to see a good scrap on the field during a local derby.
Now, perhaps I'm in the minority but what possible joy can you get from watching two teams assault each other with their studs? Where's the fun in wincing through every full-blooded tackle in fear that your best players are going to get seriously injured... and then have those fears confirmed with Marouane Fellaini getting hauled off on a stretcher?
The derby wasn't always this way but as the atmosphere off the pitch gets increasingly bitter and as the two teams get closer in terms of ability, the more the players seem to start these games under the mistaken impression that damaging opposition players physically is evidence of a burning desire to win. If I wanted to watch a kicking contest, I'd watch Ultimate Fighting Championship.
Now, while I can't deny that those YouTube clips of Tim Cahill pinning Xabi Alonso to the ground by the neck in a Goodison derby a few seasons back don't elicit a wry smile because of how much I can't stand the Dark Side, at the end of the day, I'd far rather we played the bastards off the park like we did at Arsenal a few weeks back.
And, yes, I say that fully cognisant of the fact that Liverpool wouldn't let us play that way in the first half. Jamie Carragher's freight train-esque poleaxing of Steven Pienaar set the tone early on and though he was no angel himself (I think his tackle on Mascherano was more clumsy than malicious, however) the South African was kicked from pillar to post all game with very little support from Martin Atkinson.
Moyes's other confusing comments after the game concerned his players. Having made so much in the build-up to the game of his team's "top-four quality", he ascribed the Blues' failure to overcome a 10-man opposition to a lack of "special players in forward areas."
And yet, while Liverpool had perhaps their worst offensive line in recent memory, one that troubled Tim Howard just twice all game, his was a side boasting Louis Saha, the team's top scorer and a very special player when he's on top form, Pienaar, one of the jewels in Moyes's crown, an admittedly less-than-sharp Mikel Arteta, Landon Donovan, and, by the manager's own boasts, an in-form Tim Cahill.
Donovan especially impressed with his willingness to rise above the physical scrap and was perhaps the only forward player to emerge from the game with any credit for Everton. Yet since the Manchester City game he's been wasted on the right flank because of the near total lack of attacking ability shown by Phil Neville recently. Donovan has been criticised for his positional sense in recent matches and was slated after the cup defeat to Birmingham for coming inside too often. Well, I think if every time my fullback got the ball, he completely ignored me and chose instead to lump into the box, I'd want to go inside to look for the ball as well!
Which brings me to my current bugbear with Moyes and that's the refusal to play Seamus Coleman. Yes, I've heard all the arguments about his youth (he's 21, FFS), his inexperience (he's played in Lisbon and in Athens, brought us back from the dead against Spurs and not shown a shred of fear doing it), and his supposedly shocking display in the first game against Benfica. On the last point, as I've said before, I must have been watching the wrong game because apart from being caught out badly for Di Maria's first goal ( in retrospect, and even that's a harsh assessment), I don't recall him doing all that badly to the contrary, I thought he did pretty well for his first ever game and for playing on the wrong side of defence.
The other refrain from those who would stand resolutely behind Moyes on this issue is that the manager must know which players are his best in each position but I was one of those bleating about him perservering with Joleon Lescott at left back when I believed that Leighton Baines was better and it was months before he was finally given the chance to prove it... and he hasn't looked back.
The fact is that to these eyes, Coleman has shown himself thus far to be the equal of Tony HIbbert defensively and superior to him and Neville going forward in every measurable way. He's done more than enough to warrant a starting berth and I, for one, hope he gets it before Donovan goes back to the US not having had the opportunity to really show us what he's made of.
Lyndon Lloyd Posted 09/02/2010 at 21:21:59
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Lyndon Lloyd Posted 27/01/2010 at 03:52:31
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Sometimes the win is all that matters
No it wasn't pretty and "winning ugly" doesn't exactly fit in with the School of Science legacy, but when you've lost another three key first-team players to injury and illness, you've got a much-maligned full-back deployed as an emergency centre half, you're on the other side of the Continent playing one of those notoriously tricky eastern European sides, and the rain is lashing down, sometimes the only thing that matters is getting the victory.
And that's exactly what Everton did in Minsk this evening and it is to the Blues' credit that they not only rescued a game that seemed to be drifting away from them midway through the second half but then went on to win it against a mobile and highly capable BATE Borisov side.
David Moyes must have been tearing his hair out when Joseph Yobo strained a thigh in training yesterday leaving him with just one fit and eligible centre half in Sylvain Distin. That mean that Tony Hibbert had to move into central half but it's to his enormous credit that it was he and not his more accomplished central defensive partner who was taking the plaudits at full time for deputising superbly.
Indeed, Everton probably felt hard done-by at half time, having seen Diniyar Bilyaletdinov thump a shot off the post after 11 minutes and then fall behind to Dmitri Likhtarovich's wonder striker from 30-plus yards that looked destined to set BATE on their way to victory.
And when Jo left the field on a stretcher in first-half injury time, it really did feel as though our luck was well and truly out. Even though he returned in the second half, the sight of him and Yakubu both looking less than comfortable leading the line, combined with the increasing propensity of the team as a whole to give the ball away cheaply, it felt that just getting a draw would be beyond us at times in the second half.
Of course, with those key missing players, Steven Pienaar in particular, it wasn't surprising that Everton's performance was, on the whole, sub-par but, if you have to be critical, it was a situation really crying out to Tim Cahill and Marouane Fellaini to step up and take command in midfield. Dan Gosling was having a torried time at right back and while you wouldn't normally look to Leon Osman to get hold of the ball and keep it, the other two, as established internationals, could have been expected to do better.
But both Fellaini and Cahill came through where it really mattered, though in front of goal and that, in the end, is all that matters. To have come away from the Dinamo Stadium with a win under difficult circumstances was hugely satisfying and the boys are full value for the pride gushing their way from the Everton faithful.
Five consecutive victories, 14 scored and just one unstoppable goal conceded, a 100% record in Group I, the growing feeling that this team can find the will and the goals necessary to win when it matters... all we need now is some luck on the injury front and the season really will be firmly on the rails after a disastrous start.
Lyndon Lloyd Posted 01/10/2009 at 20:08:57
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Call it curiosity...
At ToffeeWeb, we've been around the internet a long time... providing this staunchly independent virtual arena for fan comment, opinion, information, news, and edification on all things Everton.
We can handle most of what's thrown our way, brickbats we get usually seem to come from people who somehow disagree with our "Mission Statement" as penned above, and will often use this maddening word to describe us "negativity".
We are even informed by some there is a whole slew of avid Evertonians out there who won't come close because they perceive the entire website as "negative". My inclination was initially to ignore it as simply unrepresentative of those who come on the internet, like me, presumably to satisfy the craving outlined in my first paragraph. Yet we now hear repeatedly this "negativity" thing more and more... I guess it still just bugs the hell out of me because:
a) Aren't we all just Evertonians who are curious to know what's going on?
b) Aren't we all just Evertonians who have our own views and opinions about players, coaches, managers, Chairmen, CEOs etc etc, and want to read those of others?
Yet one contributor wrote to me, after claiming that "All we seem to get on this forum is criticism", saying "there are lots of people like me who don't really want to get involved in the negativity."
Is that really true? I'm honestly puzzled because I have no terms of reference for such a mindset. For me, that attitude just puts up lots of red flags (pun intended) it just sounds so much like the worst aspects of communism and the control of information.
So, if something is bad, they don't want to talk about it... they don't want it talked about?? Above all, they don't want US to talk about it??? Isn't that just a little bit naieve and unrealistic? I honestly don't get it...
I mean, yes, I can understand it could be depressing, it might personally affect your mood, make you sad about something you love... I suppose I could convince myself that there are some Evertonians for whom that sentiment is far more important than the Need to Know the quest to be informed about what's going on with "our" club.
What I don't understand is that these people are so quick to reject the wealth and breadth of knowledge, opinion, information and diversity this site carries... quick to characterize a lot of our traffic even the entire website as being "negative" because it perhaps panders to this need of what must be, I can only assume, only a portion (majority, minority? I have NO idea) of Evertonians who do want to know. Also quick to accuse US of lack of "support" for the club!!! Equally astounding... why would we be doing all this but for our support of the club??
To me, those who share our quest are not negative in any way: they simply have an open and curious mind, they continuously want new current information on which to base their judgements and formulate their opinions (about players' current form, for example). How can it possibly be "negative" to want that? What on earth is wrong with wanting that?
Do some fans really want to believe that all our players are fantastic and play fantastic in each and every match? Surely not... But when someone provides analysis of their performance on here, someone else inevitably labels that analysis as "slaughtering" the player...
The remainder I guess don't want to deal with negativity, bad news, criticism, the possibility that something anything about the club they love may not be absolutely wonderful.
Have I got that right? Or am I mis-characterizing your stance? Speak up, self-proclaimed "anti-negative" people. See if you can explain to me your different take on the world and what this website might look like if we were cast in your image instead of mine.
Michael Kenrick Posted 11/09/2009 at 14:25:10
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Only half right, Joleon
While Joleon Lescott has conducted himself with a lot more dignity and tact than other departees from Goodison Park in recent seasons *ahem* ... Andy van der Meyde... *cough* Wayne Rooney... in his first public comments since leaving Everton, I can't see how he can appear so wounded by his treatment by David Moyes.
He signed a vastly improved contract and committed his future to Everton only last summer, only to then demand a transfer at the first sign of something better.
Granted, that's the nature of football indeed, the nature of employment in most walks of life but he neglects to mention that a few days before he was "sent to Coventry", he asked not to be included in the Arsenal team because his "head wasn't right" after his manager had knocked back a transfer request, tacitly asking him to show some loyalty and honour that recently-inked contract.
Though I don't know what was said behind the scenes, you could perhaps argue that Moyes was a little harsh in making him train separately and dropping him from the Sigma squad entirely. But Davey demands loyalty and I would bet he was a little put out at Lescott's desire to leave. After all, it represents the breaking up of a very tight unit of players and the compromise of the legendary spirit that exists in his team.
The other aspect of his press conference from Eastlands today that will probably raise the blood pressure of a few Evertonians is Lescott's assertion that "City are better equipped to get [to the Champions League] faster than Everton. It's been mis-represented in some quarters as him saying that City are a bigger club than Everton, but I don't think that was his point.
In fact, I think he's got it dead on they are better equipped than us, not just financially, but now in terms of personnel as well. It just remains to be seen whether Mark Hughes can turn them into a team that equals the sum of its parts.
No doubt money played a large part in his decision at £94,000 a week, how could it not?! but you've got to think that he would not have been nearly so tempted had Everton strengthened to the degree they should have earlier in the summer and shown that they are equipped to challenge the top four.
They clearly didn't, and as a player entering the peak of your career, you have to look at that and make your decisions accordingly. Make no mistake, if the right kinds of players aren't brought in before the close of the transfer window or, perhaps, in January, and the team struggles to a mid-table finish, we could see more of that foundation that Moyes built start to crumble away, starting with the obvious candidates like Mikel Arteta and Steven Pienaar.
Lyndon Lloyd Posted 26/08/2009 at 22:17:10
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Everton v Malaga
Lyndon is away on his jollies so I'm afraid you have one of my rare glowing match previews to digest instead....
The final match of what has been a rather uninspiring... no, let's call it utterly frustrating pre-season campaign, overshadowed by the constant uncertainty regarding Joleon Lescott and the tempting forces form Eastlands. How much of a role, I wonder, has all that nonsense played in unsettling the team and contributing to the poor attitude David Moyes cited in critiquing his players' performance at Blackpool? How well is the famous team spirit standing up?
It's unlikely we'll get an answer to that question tonight, but it is the final chance for what passes as match practice before we finally get serious in just eight days time, with the visit of Arsenal in the first real game of the season. Everton have been resolute regarding Lescott, and he is expected to turn out for the Blues tonight, having missed the last two games with a hip injury.
While it may be reassuring to still see Lescott in a Royal Blue shirt, the player we have perhaps missed the most (at least of those not chronically crocked) is Steven Pienaar. What little scope remains in the rump of Moyes's squad tends to lie at the feet of the tricky South African, but he too has been nursing injury.
Then there's Marouane Fellaini, who's problems last season were put down to joining the team so late and missing out on pre-season. Well, he's had a pretty tough summer it turns out, with some sort of viral Wire in the Blood that has seen him lose far too much weight, probably negating any perceived benefit pre-season training may have provided him.
Then there's Louis Saha, perhaps the only player we have who can strike the ball properly, but he's suffering from asthma attacks...
As for Hibbert and Osman... are they STILL carrying injuries? And are these STILL trotted out as valid excuses for their continually limited performances? Shouldn't Leon have had some sort of operation this summer to fix whatever is wrong with him?
Deary me... it all sounds so bleak. But unfortunately there is very little to shout about as we head for the big kick-off. And Goodison is supposedly sold out for tonght's pre-season friendly?!? That'll be the day!
Michael Kenrick Posted 07/08/2009 at 14:08:40
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He is the Chairman after all....
There have certainly been a lot of posts about Bill Kenwright's continuing ownership of Everton Football Club this close-season... nothing unusual about that, you may say this is ToffeeWeb afterall, and our critcs just love to pigeonhole everyone of us all as "Bill-haters", no matter what diversity of opinion is forthcoming.
Personally, I think there is an element of unreality in the calls for Bill Kenwright to be replaced. But I see it as a shorthand for fans frustration at an opportunity lost an opportunity to really kick on.
I am convinced that, if we had started last season with the vim and vigour we showed in our best spells, we would have been up there mincing about in the Champions League places on the last day. The fact that we squandered this incredible opportunity through an utterly ridiculous pre-season will take an awful long time for this Evertonian to forget.
And what exactly is different this pre-season? The squad is still under strength, and seriously depleted in key areas by long-term injuries to key players. Are we really gonna be in any shape at all to make a decent fist of it from Day One? I fear that losing to Arsenal will be tough to recover from, and a draw will simply not be good enough. (Although I am reminded of a 4-1 defeat to Arsenal on the opening day of the season that saw us clinch 4th! Its a funny old game...)
You could argue that Peter Johnson was displaced by fan power, when the masses really turned against his "mismanagement" of the club. Will the same thing happen with Blue Bill? I seriously doubt it. While almost every post from Richard Dodd confirms he is on the lunatic fringe, there are enough fans buying into the BK bullshit to make sure he will never experience the heat that pushed Johnson into a deal with True Blue Holdings.... (And what exactly was the purpose of that little creation? Does anybody know? Neal Pearse???)
I wish I knew the definitive answer to Jay Harriss oft-repeated claim that Bill Kenwright bought the club on the sly, burdening the club accounts with the loans taken out to enable the purchase of Peter Johnsons shares. There was not even a hint of such shenanigans at the time, but it certainly does seem to be the modus operandi for club owners to secure ownership these days...
If more people knew that was true in Bill's case... would it be enough to start the revolution? No matter... methinks he will still make out like a bandit (just as Johnson did) when it really becomes time to sell. And where will we be then?
Michael Kenrick Posted 02/08/2009 at 22:24:33
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Superstars in Seattle
Temperatures had cooled off considerably for Everton's last day of training at the Starfire Sports complex in Tukwila, just south of Seattle, where they were greeted by a boisterous group of fanatical Evertonians... including ace photographer Dermot Reilly (Click pictures to view larger versions of Dermot's brilliant handiwork)
The lads looked a little jaded as they strolled along the access path and into the fenced area where training was set to take place. No wonder they had been out on an impromptu meet & greet with a few lucky fans in an Irish pub down in Seattle's famous Pioneer Square district the night before... But today was all about conditioning and some ball work, so, after some sutably mild warm-up routines, it was pleasing to see David Moyes right in there, setting the tone as he paired off the players for a spell of "nogginball":
There was plenty of standing around but thankfully no arguing, and you could tell Moyesy kept a tight ship, with discipline and teamwork... my question is: What's with the bras!?!?!
Tim Cahill was obviously too embarrassed to show his face... but not to worry, the kick & run stuff soon started in earnest, with a complex routine that involved two strikers bearing in on a lone defender Moyesey himself while superb pinpoint crosses were belted in from the left wing by Stevie P and Leighton Baines. Fellaini and the others sharpened their shooting skills while Hibbo just kinda stood around in the background.
David Moyes explains the importance of staying onside
Moyes proved to be such an effective defender that Tim Howard and Carlo Nash, who were supposed to be getting shot-stopping practise, also just stood around, ball-watching and holding up the goalposts.
Tim & Carl admire the Manager's defensive prowess
All in all, it was a good session for the lads, with Moyes *& Round putting them thorough their paces while the fans looked on in awe. They looked well primed for Saturday's massive challenge in the Edmonton CUp against River Plate.
Photographer Dermot Reilly with ... who is that ugly guy with the false beard & dark glasses?
Photograhs by Dermot Reilly
Michael Kenrick Posted 25/07/2009 at 00:19:32
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Opinions are like...
I'll spare you the end of that sentence but I'm intrigued to know what fellow Blues make of The Times' Top 50 Everton Players and how they came to the decisions they made.
I'm not sure how Wayne Rooney can be placed higher than Mikel Arteta, for instance, or Anders Limpar can be rated higher than current Talisman Tim Cahill unless footballing ability carries as significant or more weight than the player's importance to the Club at the time.
Few would doubt that the Swede was better technically than Cahill as a player but perhaps there's a case for saying that Dave Watson was more important to Everton than any of the Holy Trinity individually (though not collectively, surely). And Thomas Gravesen on that list at all? I'd wager that a player like Joseph Yobo or Joleon Lescott have already proven better players than the Mad Dane. Certainly, they are more consistent.
I'll leave it to our more seasoned readers to decide whether such vexing questions as to whether Alan Ball was better than Alex Young, but it's an interesting discussion starter if nothing else.
Lyndon Lloyd Posted 09/03/2009 at 19:22:21
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Lyndon Lloyd Posted 12/02/2009 at 02:53:47
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Actions speak louder than words
First it was Phil Neville expressing surprise at how quickly and how easily Marouane Fellaini has racked up 10 yellow cards, and now it's David Moyes's turn to cite something other than the Belgian's own actions for the two-match suspension that he now serves during the back-to-back Merseyside derbies.
Moyes says, "I think that the language barrier and how things are put over at times, and even how referee put things over can be a problem."
I don't buy it. First of all, most of Fellaini's bookings have been justified on the basis of persistent fouling he is clumsy and his lack of pace often means he is chasing opponents from behind and either tripping them or bundling them over because of his size. The fact that he isn't learning to compensate for this is more worrying to me than referees' treatment of him.
Secondly, the referees are making their decisions and reaching for their cards before Fellaini even gets to attempt to surmount the language barrier. He's not talking his way into the book, it's his actions during play that are doing all the talking.
Furthermore, as others have pointed out, Fellaini could, with a harsher or more observant official, have picked up a straight red for elbowing Kamil Zayatte and then Michael Turner against Hull City. On both occasions, he wasn't even penalised with a foul but it could have been much, much worse.
Fellaini's job is simple: learn to control that gangly frame and learn to jump without using his elbows for leverage. It's no coincidence that he was "victimised" to the same degree in Belgium as he has so far in the English Premier League he is the problem, in my opinion, and his reputation will now, unfortunately, go before him.
It's a shame because while I personally don't think he has thus far justified the huge fee Everton paid Standard Liege for him, he has without doubt become one of our most important and effective players. He'll be missed against Liverpool... though you'd have to admit that he'd be a red card just waiting to happen in a game like the derby!
Lyndon Lloyd Posted 17/01/2009 at 15:27:59
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