Blues bounce back after early shock

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Everton 3 - 1 Southampton
Everton were looking to get back to normal service after Tuesday's 'blip' at Leeds, with the full compliment of established first-teamers returning, except for the very surprising inclusion of Heitinga in place of Distin, who was on the bench. For Southampton, no Daniel Fox, once of this parish.

Everton put in a nice early attack with Baines crossing for Jelavic. But Southampton didn't look too fazed and Ramirez scored with frustrating simplicity from their first corner in the 6th minute, with Howard making a pathetic attempt at intercepting the cross that was only 2 yards in front of his line. Shocking goalkeeping!

It was certainly not the start everyone had been expecting, and giving up the all-important first goal saw what confidence they might have started with evaporate in the warm September sun. Rodriguez then broke down the right and could have made it worse but drove wide with only Howard to beat. It looked like Everton should have had a penalty when Jelavic was chopped down but Richardson had got the ball away from him legally.

Jelavic came close to scoring with a great looping header that was clawed away from the angle, Fellaini following up could not force it in.

The attacks were getting better from Everton and on 25 mins the got the reward with an equalizer from Osman who lashed a loose ball gleefully into the top corner of the Gwladys Street net after Mirallas's hard cross gave Jelavic a difficult task but the ball fell in open play with Osman following in perfectly.

Jelavic was going to ground rather frequently and not earning anything from referee. Some wonderful movement from the back, straight through the middle of the park produced a wonderful goal from Nikica Jelavic to put Everton in charge after 32 minutes. Mirallas bought the ball forward with conviction, exchanged short passes with Fellaini, then strode forward and played Jelavic in to the left channel, where the first-touch king had plenty of work to do, control the ball well before placing an excellent shot along the ground and into the far side of the goal.

Confidence restored, and with the Goodison crowd off their backs, Everton started to surge forward in waves. Some scintillating football made those parallels wit Barclona not too far off the mark.

And in the follow-up to one of those attacks, an excellent set-up by Coleman who did brilliantly to dance inside one defender on the sideline, scamper into the area, beat another man and cross superbly right onto Jelavic's head, despite the very narrow angle at the far post. The iceman's header was too powerful for Gazzaniga who could only punch it into the roof of the net, to everyone's delight. 3 nice goals in 15 mins!!

Jelavic could have had his hat-trick but chose to head Mirallas's superb cross back for Fellaini rather than burying it. Some scintillating possession football in the minutes before time was worthy of another goal, Everton winning a couple of corners, and Fellaini almost got it at the end of the half, hitting the bar with a trademark header.

More confident possession play started the second half. But Soton got some of their own and finally put a shot in. Jagielka then had to be alert to deny Lambert. Jelavic won a corner but the training ground routine proved a little too intricate as Baines played it over the byeline.

A Baines corner was just too high for Jelavic. Then a sweeping move, Coleman and Mirallas linking brilliantly down the right, crossing a little deep for Jelavic who controlled it superbly and played it back to Osman whose curling shot seemed destined fopr the corner but went just wide with Gazzaniga scrambling to cover. Fellaini tried to drill one in again after brutishly tossing a defender aside.

Everton seemed to be getting a little bit complacent and almost guilty of letting the red shirts get a little too close to Tim Howard, who now had the sun in his eyes. Fortunately, their final ball was poor enough that it didn't really trouble the Everton defence.

Mirallas sought glory when given time on the ball outside the area but his strong shot was too close to Gazzaniga. Gaston, came very close to getting a goal back, getting behind the Everton defence and clipping the ball past Howard but saw it shepherded past the post by a thankful Jagielka.

David Moyes had gone well past his normal time for the first sub to freshen things up, and his players seemed to be happy with the two-goal lead, which only served to give Southampton hope for a fight. He finally made the switch with 15 mins left, taking off Jelavic for joint leading scorer Anichebe.... soon followed by Oviedo replacing Mirallas, with a strangely hairless Pienaar switching to the right side.

It didn't really have the desired effect, however, as the relaxed controlling football from Everton continued, with Howard having to make a very smart save to keep the score down and retain the prospect of moving up to a heady 2nd place in the Premier League.

Leon Osman was given the honour of crowd appreciation for his contribution in the added 3 mins, replaced by Distin as the Blues played out a pleasing win, despite taking their foot well off the pedal in the second half.

Everton: Howard; Baines, Jagielka, Heitinga, Coleman; Neville, Osman (90+2' Distin), Pienaar, Fellaini; Jelavic (76' Anichebe), Mirallas (80' Oviedo).
Subs: Mucha, Distin, Duffy, Gueye, Vellios.

Southampton: Gazzaniga, Richardson, Fonte, Yoshida, Clyne (81' Reeves), Ramirez, Steven Davis, Ward-Prowse, Lallana (90' Chaplow), Lambert, Rodriguez (81' Mayuka).
Subs: K Davis, Hooiveld, Do Prado, Puncheon.

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Peter Jones
1 Posted 29/09/2012 at 16:58:53
Great win. In past years, we'd stumble here. But we didn't. We took care of business like a top team would. 3 more points and sitting pretty. Let's do the same thing to Wigan next week.
Ian Bennett
2 Posted 29/09/2012 at 17:06:42
Well done Blues. I am still bitter about Leeds, but good to get an attractive win.
Kiern Moran
3 Posted 29/09/2012 at 17:09:54
Last game of the season away to Chelsea and the points just three as now can we dare to dream? Osman and Neville together in the middle just seems to work. Coleman was outstanding today, in fact I couldnt name a player who played badly today. I was wondering when we were hunting down the forth goal, whether we ought to not want to score again unless to frighten off the chickens. Moyes league strategy for Everton intact.
Leung Chi Ho
4 Posted 29/09/2012 at 17:22:27
Coleman & Mirallas looked better than Baines & Pienaar today, we are looking more balanced than last year in attack!!
Nick Entwistle
5 Posted 29/09/2012 at 17:30:46
The commentator said groans from Goodison were heard with late Southampton pressure due to being spoiled with all the good play. Thoughts went back to Spurs fans having a go at Redknapp a few seasons back... well, gotta say this result was expected even after going 1-0 down. Dam you Moyes! Give me more!
Amit Vithlani
6 Posted 29/09/2012 at 17:33:07
Job done, players didn't get out of second gear. Howard is costing a few too many goals from really very basic errors, but he was bailed out by a very solid team performance and that can only help team spirit and confidence.

Roll on Wigan at the JJB, we've not played too well there in recent years. Look forward to us going and imposing ourselves on what will no doubt be a dodgy pitch.

Barry Rathbone
7 Posted 29/09/2012 at 17:33:30
Real good signs with this team I don't mind the shaky start and quieter second half because this is a genuine footballing side and it was without Gibbo - we'll win more than we lose like this.

Still think Moyes shot himself in the foot over the League Cup but fair dos this league form is excellent and he deserves credit for changing things today, getting a result and playing some cracking football.

Really pleased.

Peter Warren
8 Posted 29/09/2012 at 17:41:09
Great football but we definately miss Gibson in the middle.
Brendan McLaughlin
9 Posted 29/09/2012 at 17:46:00
I see Moyes is talking on the BBC about the first priority....avoiding relegation! Don't ya just love him.....
Peter Warren
10 Posted 29/09/2012 at 17:47:56
Pleased with Coleman too.
Garry Corgan
11 Posted 29/09/2012 at 17:58:38
Yes Brendan - shocking comment to come out with. Really shows a lack of ambition. Players need building up, not knocking down.
Nick Entwistle
12 Posted 29/09/2012 at 17:49:46
I think we have a the right flank sorted for at least the next 4 seasons. But Oviedo looks too good to warm the bench indefinitely. Finally, a good right flank and competition for places. Just need that extra man for midfield. 4th please!
Nick Entwistle
13 Posted 29/09/2012 at 18:02:52
You think what Moyes sas in the dressing room and in training might be different to what he says to the BBC? He is required to speak, and will not want to bring more attention to the club than is necessary. Keep as you are Davy.
Colin Potter
14 Posted 29/09/2012 at 18:09:54
I would have liked to have seen more goals in the 2nd half. Utd lost the league on goal difference didn't they? I wouldn't like to see us drop a couple places because of it at the end of the season,
4th Nick? I think we can do better than that, but we will have to keep going for the full 90 minutes.
Sam Hoare
15 Posted 29/09/2012 at 18:18:02
Warning signs when people think we should be doing better than 4th!

Great result and sitting pretty but it's a long haul and as shown at Leeds we lack in depth. Let's just take it one game at a time but cause for celebration tonight after a comfortable victory.

Paul David
16 Posted 29/09/2012 at 18:06:58
I can not agree with Kiern. Osman didn't do anything wrong but was hardly involved. I'm not a Osman hater but it does seem to be all or nothing with him. As for Neville I thought he was terrible, on the tele i'm sure it looked like he didn't do anything wrong, he only got on the ball about 10 times and he didn't lose possesion but off the ball he was awlfull. He didn't make a single tackle, make a single interception or even got close to a single Southampton player to make a challenge. Thats all he's in the team to do ffs.

Anyone who still thinks Howard is a top keeper is deluded, he used to be but the amount of mistakes he's made and goals he's cost us over the past year or so is shocking.

Baines is without doubt he best full back in the league if not the world.Some of his link up with Pienaar was excellent. I wouldn't swap out left side for anyone elses.

I'm really pleased for Coleman, he was motm for me today and deserves a run at right back. Mirallas will become a big player for us once he's been here awhile, not everything he did came off today but I love watching him. He never stops trying things and always wants the ball.

I think Jelavic needs to be told not to work the flanks or come deep for the ball. The fact is he is average outside the box but world class in it. He should do nothing but stay on the sholder of the last defender and just concentrate on putting the ball in the back of the net but most of all stay on his feet and stop diving.

Drew Shortis
17 Posted 29/09/2012 at 18:17:04
Coleman and Mirallas looked like they could form a good partnership down the right and give us a comparable threat to the one we already have on the left. Neville did a good job in covering Coleman when he rampaged forward and he also allowed Osman to play further forward. I'm sure Gibson will do the same when he returns as well as adding his passing range. I saw good partnerships all over the pitch today and if we can strengthen this team further in January (Odjidja plus a US based loan or two) a CL place could be a realistic goal. This is the most optimistic I have been in many years!
Brent Stephens
19 Posted 29/09/2012 at 18:31:42
Paul #880 you saw it differently from me in relation to Osman. He wasn't as good second half perhaps but first half he really stood out. Not saying he didn't make any mistakes at all first half but who's perfect? Watch again tonight on Sky and count the touches, passes, the basic simplicity of them at times (not to be underestimated - kept it ticking over) and some really delightful stuff.

And I disagree about Jelavic. He works tirelessly in pulling defences around and out of position. When I played defence (I know, it was only local league stuff, but nevertheless) the easiest to mark were those who stayed within a few yards of you.

Phil Walling
20 Posted 29/09/2012 at 18:23:45
With nobody to mark,Coleman looked class but would still rather have Hibbo in a dog-fight! Just so wish we had a real second keeper rather than the useless Mucha and a manager who could inspire us plebs as well as he does the team.
PS. the return of Gibson (for Neville) can only improve an already decent team.
Paul David
22 Posted 29/09/2012 at 18:39:39
Brent

I have no arguments about what Osman done,I seen it the same as you today. I thought he kept things simple and played the right ball (if a little slow sometimes) but he does go missing for large parts of the game.

I was a defender as well and agree, I hated those little shits that wouldn't keep still but I was always playing against 2 strikers so if one went wide there was always someone in the middle to get on the end of things. His movement is great and he must be a nightmare for defenders but if he receives the ball outside the box he can't really do anything with it.

Stu Gore
23 Posted 29/09/2012 at 18:58:27
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/tables seems to be next weeks results. Top!
David Hallwood
24 Posted 29/09/2012 at 18:52:43
Brendan & Gary #873&875 seem to remember SAF saying the same thing a few years ago. Can't remember the exact quote but something like, The campaign is like climbing a mountain with the first base being 40 points, then you look to go higher. What's good enough for Fergie etc.

BTW Great win today, some of the football exceptional, and we've got an easy run-in (kiss of death I know, until late November)

Brent Stephens
25 Posted 29/09/2012 at 19:00:30
OK, Paul. See what you're saying about Jelavic outside of box.
Jamie Barlow
26 Posted 29/09/2012 at 19:09:09
Stu, it's the same on Sky Sports. Same goal difference too.

Weird.

Wigan 1-3 Everton next week. Get your bets on.

Jon Cox
27 Posted 29/09/2012 at 18:44:21
It's very difficult to judge Coleman and Hibbo in terms of the right back position.

They're poles apart in as much the type of players they are. Hibbo is the archetypal defender. Old fashioned , has learnt to tackle well and anyone in Europe who has kept Ronaldo (used to be called Sasso) quiet, is a good if not great defender in the true sense of the word.

Now Coleman is of the younger style with the emphasis on attack. So we have a dial M a (for murder) Do we go for the younger and more attacking lad or do we go for the older yet better defender.

The down side for Hibbo is lack of attack however, if you look at last season many fine crosses from the right came from our hibbo and caused damage to opposition defenses.

The problem as I see it for Coleman and I saw the same thing with guys like Arron Lennon and SWP is that all the hard word in the attacking mode is done but the final execution has always left much to be desired. I see this as Colemans main problem.

Jesus, if he could get this right and a partnership developed down the right with Mirallas, then with Gibson (and don't forget he's as new as two or three of them) in the centre we could be looking at a potential yearly top four side.

Once that happens then the upward spiral of success will have been selected by the Everton management.

I'll have some of that please.....

Jon Cox
28 Posted 29/09/2012 at 19:17:28
Sorry I meant "is that all the hard work"
Jon Cox
29 Posted 29/09/2012 at 19:20:16
Breaking news. Utd have lost 2-3 at home to Spuds.

We are 2nd in the league and know one will shift us this week, I think.

COYB

Ian Smitham
30 Posted 29/09/2012 at 19:16:45
Just got in from the game. First half was as good as anything I have seen for a long time. The movement and one touch passing combined with willingness to be patient on the ball were a joy to watch. Watch the number of passes for the second goal and in particular how the move started and the Belgian combo in midfield.

The opponent was very lightweight, the central midfield not the battle many games seem to be. It suited Osmans style and good for him. Not sure about Coleman, for me he seemed to give the ball away a bit, but he seemed a big improvement on last year, also to be fair, big Vic seems a bit mre committed.

All in all, a pleasant game, wish we had gone a bit more for it in the second
Half but hey ho, 3 goals, 3 points and second in the prem.

Thanks, Ian

Stu Gore
31 Posted 29/09/2012 at 19:28:32
I'll take 1-3 away Jamie. A lot of my mates are "of the pie" so that'd do
Andy Walker
32 Posted 29/09/2012 at 19:31:56
Yet another fine display, espec 1st half. This is the best football I've seen us play since the glory days of the 80s, also I think at times we've played the best football of ANY side so far this season. As an aside only 29 comments by 7.30pm on a Sat after a 3pm KO and a win puts us in 2nd. Bet we'll have a lot more when we lose one though eh?
Could it be true that bad news really does sell.........surely not!
Ian Smitham
33 Posted 29/09/2012 at 19:55:53
Something I forgot, sorry, I believe that against the favoured teams we seem to do OK at Goodison and our main downfall is the lack of ability to break teams down who "park the bus" , got to say that will be different this term, our play is sooooo inventive that if any team sits back, I think we will rip them to pieces. Thanks
Eugene Ruane
35 Posted 29/09/2012 at 19:59:23
Possibly easier to articulate one's annoyance Andy (919).

After Swansea all I could think of was 'a great display', felt the same about 'that half hour' today and the Utd and Villa games.

(jesus if we'd picked up where we left off at half time today, in the second half, 6 or 7 was a genuine possibility).

One (other) thing I did enjoy today was that after going a goal down, we didn't panic which we sometimes do if/when something goes against us (a goal, an injury etc).

Against Leeds, their goal seemed to be the cue for us to fall to bits - passing, invention, shooting, the lot.

Saints goal on the other hand seemed to be kick up the hole we needed.

If we could improve our final ball, I think someone soon could be on the end of a real hiding.

Ian Smitham
36 Posted 29/09/2012 at 20:00:15

Pos Team Pld W D L F A GD Pts
1 Chelsea 6 5 1 0 11 3 8 16
2 Everton 6 4 1 1 12 6 6 13
3 Manchester United 5 4 0 1 12 6 6 12
4 Manchester City 6 3 3 0 12 8 4 12
5 West Bromwich Albion 5 3 1 1 7 4 3 10
6 Arsenal 6 2 3 1 10 4 6 9
7 Fulham 6 3 0 3 13 9 4 9
8 Newcastle United 6 2 3 1 8 8 0 9
9 Tottenham Hotspur 5 2 2 1 8 6 2 8
10 West Ham United 5 2 2 1 5 4 1 8
11 Swansea City 6 2 1 3 10 9 1 7
12 Stoke City 6 1 4 1 6 5 1 7
13 Sunderland 5 1 4 0 5 4 1 7
14 Liverpool 6 1 2 3 9 12 -3 5
15 Aston Villa 5 1 1 3 5 9 -4 4
16 Wigan Athletic 6 1 1 4 5 11 -6 4
17 Southampton 6 1 0 5 10 18 -8 3
18 Norwich City 6 0 3 3 4 13 -9 3
19 Reading 5 0 2 3 6 11 -5 2
20 Queens Park Rangers 5 0 2 3 3 11 -8 2


Enjoy, it may not last, but while it is what it is, enjoy

Jon Cox
37 Posted 29/09/2012 at 19:59:23
Ian, totally agree. By the way mate Nearly got to the Wilmslow to say hello last season gainst WBO. Came over from Cornwall with my boys but everything went tits up, in terms of travel. Will try this season yeah?

COYB

Joe Clitherow
38 Posted 29/09/2012 at 19:58:06
I have never understood the negativity around Moyes stating "40 pts first", "stay in the Premier League first priority" etc. Those who know about history as we like to think we do will know that this was absolutely the mantra of the RS "Bootroom" all throughout their heyday. It was all part of thier process to keep their players grounded and focussed. I'm sure this is where he gets it from.

It does not mean that you hit that target and then that is what you settle for, because we haven't clearly, but that is what some people want to read it as because it fits their anti-Moyes agenda - it's a process of targets with that one as the first one. In the same breath Moyes said he asks for more from the players and that he wants to also encourage that from the supporters too. It's part of his methodical philosophy.

I wish he would put emphasis on staying in all competitions at least until the New Year as well though.

Onwards and upwards...

Peter Cummings
39 Posted 29/09/2012 at 19:57:31
My biggest concern for the last few seasons has been about the reliability of Howard. Yes, he makes some great stops but regularly fumbles set pieces and crosses by staying on his line instead of using his height and weight to wade in. Saints goal was a prime example as was the second v WBA.

Unfortunately we don't have a reliable No 2 and if we want to stay in the 'big' race I think a goalie should be a priority. A great result today but we must still punish teams we put on the rack for the whole 90 mins, as the'other lot' did at Norwich, which was quite a performance.
Jon Cox
40 Posted 29/09/2012 at 20:15:20
Actually Joe, your first paragraph is total shite. It, in the 60's and 70's all about signing the best players AND having the best youth that they could.

Thats it. Thats all it ever was. Have a look at the red shite and you will find that once all the other teams worked out out how the SHITE played then it wasn't that hard to put them in their place.

By the way you may be a troll but I couldn't give a shit anyway. MY dad was Jaguars Paw......

Tony Stanley
41 Posted 29/09/2012 at 20:30:51
I love the style of football we are playing, long may it continue.
Andy Walker
43 Posted 29/09/2012 at 20:29:37
yea couldnt agree more Eugene. Just hoping we can keep it going though. At times it seems hard to believe the transormation from 12 months ago.
My concern would be if we lost Howard, Jags, Baines or Pienaar through a long term injury. Personally think they are critical to us. It did happen in the 80s though when we went from crap to brilliant in a matter of months, so I can but dream.
Paul Johnson
44 Posted 29/09/2012 at 20:23:44
Andy, just want to re iterate your point. Phoned my brother who lives in Warsaw, I live in Nairobi and watch us very week. I told him I have not seen us play like this since the mid eighties and I have only been out of the country for 2 years.
Don't know were it has come from but we are good.
I have seen great players over the years and not just in a blue shirt, in my opinion Felliani has the ability to be a world beater. I don't know if our ambition can match his ability but he is some player.
Coleman was man of the match and there won't be a better goal in Europe this weekend than our second goal today. Dont know how long we can keep this up or Iam I one of our perennial wingers???
All I know is right now it is great to be a blue. All you youngsters out there soak it up coz take it from me we are good.
Ian Linn
45 Posted 29/09/2012 at 21:22:28
Ian Smitham 929,
Completely agree mate, when teams play football against us, we can play football back.

The two matches we have lost this year were aganst teams that sat back and put everyone in midfield and we just can't seem to thread the ball through them.

We could do with more muscle in midfield - we may get it from Gibbo but we're never going to get it from Naismith.

John Crawley
46 Posted 29/09/2012 at 21:22:25
Agree with a few comments that we are playing some of the best football seen since the 80's. That side though always went for the kill and kept attacking which would be my one criticism of today's game. Though to be fair given the high quality of our play in the first half that is being a bit harsh.

Thought Coleman and Mirallas had a great game down the right hand side. At last that side of the pitch is providing a threat. With regard to Coleman yes his defensive play does need to improve, but that will only happen if he plays more games there. People forget that he came into professional football at a late stage and he still needs to learn his trade at right back. For the third goal he showed good pace and determination, followed by a great cross for Jelavic.

Very impressed by Mirallas today. He looks much better on the flanks rather than behind the main striker. I like his directness and his willingness to run at defenders. Great play by him for the second goal today. Second highest goal scorers in the league – just behind United. Oh to have Arteta playing in the centre of midfield with the rest of this team.

Tom Bowers
47 Posted 29/09/2012 at 21:50:06
I expected the win today after the Swansea performance but we cannot make a habit of going behind early. Still not the finished article but not far away.

The back four are a little short in the air and some teams will work on taking advantage of that. Some warning signs there today: Distin and Duffy need to be used when those aerial threats are iminent in future games... Mirallas is a real livewire and can only get better; we have to hope that he and Jela stay fit but Fella is playing great all over the place.

Midfield still loose in marking and covering, leaving space for opponents to run at the back four. Still, it's great to be second and way ahead of Redshite. Norwich, Reading, Soton or QPR already look relegation fodder.
John Atkins
48 Posted 29/09/2012 at 22:05:11
Only 17 shots today of which only 9 on target, fuckin disgraceful

Sort it out will you Moyes FFS

Gareth Morgan
49 Posted 29/09/2012 at 22:11:51
Where Is Peter Barry with his Dour Davey bollocks?
Mike Keating
50 Posted 29/09/2012 at 22:22:26
Moyes Out
Christopher Kelly
51 Posted 29/09/2012 at 22:19:46
I'm sorry, the work that Coleman did on the third goal sent chills down my spine. How LONG have we been fucking waiting for a goal like that from the right????

I mean, forget Hibbert, I know Coleman has much to learn, but let the boy develop his defensive side of the game and see what the right flank can do.

Past vs Future, Old School vs New School – always stick to the innovative football.

Joe Clitherow
52 Posted 29/09/2012 at 22:40:55
Jon Cox if you want to get abusive as an opening gambit then your surname is apt (for your two posts 934 and 949)

I then suggest you look up the dictionary definition of 'mantra' and 'policy' since you don't seem to understand the difference.

PS if you want to know what is total shite then I'd suggest you actually took the trouble to find out that the place I think you were trying to find an Evertonian for a pint against WBO (whatever that is?) was probably the Winslow and not Wilmslow which is about 36 miles away down the M62.

Christopher Kelly
53 Posted 29/09/2012 at 22:58:07
And yes, to add on. I do think Coleman AND Mirallas suffer a bit from trying to do too much. A lot of wayward passes from Coleman especially. Harness it in and have a go young chap!
Jamie Sweet
54 Posted 30/09/2012 at 00:00:03
I think going a goal behind was a good test for how far this team has come. In the past we would have struggled to get back in the game, but we just blitzed them. Very impressive indeed.
Scott Stevenson
55 Posted 30/09/2012 at 00:57:48
Just got home (Penzance)... good performance by Everton. The first half was full of fast flowing football by the Blues. Shame they seem to run out of gas by 75 mins.

Jon in Cornwall — we are a group of season ticket holders and go to most home and away matches. Message me at sdjk@live.co.uk if interested to travel.
COYB
Anthony Lewis
56 Posted 30/09/2012 at 01:24:28
One of the things I noticed today, watching the game was Southampton seemed to concentrate on Baines on Pienaar. Stop those two and you stop Everton. But the thing that stood out was that Mirallas and Coleman showed them that they have a lot more things to think about. The two of them were absolutely awesome today.

Being a child of the eighties and watching first hand the unbelievable side of that era, I can, hand on heart, say that this side is quite simply the best side since that time. Some of the interchange of play is astonishing. Players flit from position to the next. We keep the opposition guessing.

Brilliant stuff... Please keep it up!

COYB

Anthony Lewis
57 Posted 30/09/2012 at 01:45:54
I also meant to say...

I honestly think Coleman is the answer to our perrenial right back problem.

As good as Hibbo has been over the past decade or so, we've all known he's not the answer.

I think the Hibbster will struggle to get back in the team after Colemans last two or three games

David Price
58 Posted 30/09/2012 at 01:45:43
We did seem to get bossed too easily in midfield for the second half, but credit Southampton for not caving in.

The last 25 minutes of the first half was awesome attacking football. The buzz in the crowd when Jelavic made it 2-1 was something not felt since the 80s.

Outside the ground at the end the atmosphere was a little flat, which shows what our expectations are now. On the field, Howard needs competition, Heitinga needs a word on his pace.

Osman was understatingly superb today and yes we miss Gibson, which highlights our one piece of world class required in centre mid. To be fair, the failed signing in the summer could be the one.

Both flanks were attacking threats, to be honest we are 90% there as a top 4 side come the end of the season. It's great to watch and hope we carry on at Wigan next week.
COYB.

Mark Wilson
59 Posted 30/09/2012 at 01:59:17
After the nonsense that was Elland Road I can honestly say that for the last twenty five mins of the first half our passing game, and of course finishing, was a class above anything I've seen from us in six or seven years.....and to be honest was probably the best purple patch I've seen for several decades ! It made that defeat at Leeds feel even worse because I really feel that just three changes not six that night would have secured victory but.....moving on.....this was a joy at times and even a slightly deflating second half didn't detract from the overall quality of a great fightback win.

Gibbons return is now really exciting me as frankly I can see him preventing the kind of free running goal chance Rodriguez spurned. I can also see him providing an even more solid line in front of the back four and allowing Fellani even more time to play his best game. Howard worries me, he hasn't started the season that well despite the good performance at Swansea. I'd rather see Distin return for Johnny but options are looking better with Coleman looking a totally different player today after his dismal show at Leeds. Yelavic showed the crucial difference that is a quality finisher when from a similar position he finished superbly and Rodriguez failed. Games turn on these moments.

If we can just keep it going at Wigan we will then have two weeks to settle in the top four before the shite come calling....I'm looking forward to that now.

Mick Davies
60 Posted 30/09/2012 at 04:33:08
Pienaar & Baines, Coleman & Mirallas, Fellaini & Jelavic — fantastic combinations and the flanks and front row are absolutely sorted (barring injuries, departures or DM bringing 'Kung-fu' Hibbert back). The worry today was how easy the Saints got through the middle.

Great leader as he is, and player he was, Neville was awful today. Osman can only play CM if he has a dependable, strong and clever ball player, like Gibson. Neville can't play a forward pass, he dawdles in possession and even tackled a team mate and sent Saints on the attack.

I was also disappointed in Heitinga and Howard. If we are playing a side like Chelsea, and JH can't run, he's had it against Torres. And in the air, without Distin we are so vulnerable. Maybe if the Frenchman is out of favour, why doesn't he give Duffy a go? I thought he done well when he was thrown in and didn't let himself down.

After all that, I'm so pleased with our new attacking philosophy, maybe finally getting that elusive goal poacher was the spark. Better than Steve Watson up front, or the 6-4-0 of last season.
COYB v the Pie eaters.
Peter Barry
61 Posted 30/09/2012 at 05:09:31
Gareth Morgan # 982 unlike many on TW, no names no pack drill you know who you are, who just love to shout their mouths off. I don't feel it's realistic to try and comment on a game which I did not see. It was not shown on Indovision here in Bali.

With a bit of channel hopping in between checking the Mac, I watched the Man City, Chelsea, RS and Man Utd live games that they did show, I read the reports and kept up to date on what was happening on TW Forum and BBC Sport that I checked periodically during the game on my Mac but they are just the subjective views of other people and not the same as watching the game.

I am however very pleased that we appear to have adopted a more attacking entertaining approach this season, and I still think it's a pity it's taken Moyes 10 years to do so when it is so obvious how effective that approach can be.
Paul Ward
62 Posted 30/09/2012 at 04:37:22
I am not a great fan of David Moyes but I agree with every word Joe Clitherow 938 says. Moyes philosophy is based on RS bootroom style and as boring as it was for everyone outside Anfield, it was successful. Thank god pighead Graham Souness destroyed it.

I think Moyes's initial quote of Everton being the People's Club was a reflection of what he is himself, a hard-working simple-minded tactician based on extreme caution. He also rewards effort and loyalty and sometimes that loyalty is blind.

Osman and Howard are picked every game irrespective of how they have performed. It is time Evertonians had a hard look at Howard because he is a liability to his defence and completely inept at corners.
Peter Barry
63 Posted 30/09/2012 at 05:33:39
Just a thought: if Oviedo is as good as everyone seems to think, he could be persuaded to operate in midfield in place of, say Neville, so that we could retain both him and Baines in the same team.
Paul Gladwell
64 Posted 30/09/2012 at 08:05:34
Mick I thought Neville did fine and for those people lauding Coleman (who had a great game) the reason he can do what he was doing is because Neville pushes over to cover for him when he goes on those mad runs upfield as even yesterday Coleman would have got found out at the back against a better team.
Time though to spend some money on a good keeper as Howard just cannot command his six yard box and Mucha is clueless.
Martin Mason
65 Posted 30/09/2012 at 08:15:32
I think that the criticism of Osman is absolutely misplaced. He is a bloody good player not only for us but also as good as anybody currently playing for England.
Ian Bennett
66 Posted 30/09/2012 at 08:08:45
I would say, Geoff Selling and Co are fairly complimentary. We are only 5 games in after all. Merson and Le Tissier are big fans of this Everton side, as was Le Saux last week.

I don't mind genuine praise. If you are going to get the fake stuff like The Independent guff then I'd rather nothing (stopped the long ball and magic happens).

Lol McNally
67 Posted 30/09/2012 at 08:42:27
I think Moyes needs to start looking for a new goalkeeper.

I was not happy with Howard's display when the ball's in the air, he puts the shits up me for corners...
Terry Davies
68 Posted 30/09/2012 at 09:13:52
Jamie Barlow & Stu

What am I missing? Table looks normal to me!

Kev Johnson
69 Posted 30/09/2012 at 09:10:30
Paul - I agree with you about Neville covering Coleman. The skipper tends to have a positive affect on other players even when he's not playing well himself. That's precisely why he's skipper. It's a bit like the old parental saying: "Do as I say, not do as I do"! Coleman does need to grow into the RB role - especially the defensive part of it - and Neville is the man to help him with it.
Anto Byrne
70 Posted 30/09/2012 at 09:07:22
We need Landon Donavon for the new year run in, hopefully he will have a change of heart and join us. One or two reinforcements will be required in January. The shite will need to be put to the sword before im convinced and wins away at the Emirates and WHL will put any doubts I have to rest.
Kevin Thompson
71 Posted 30/09/2012 at 07:10:38
Another win today; who would be dropped for Gibson when everyone is fit?

Howard, Baines, Pienaar, Jags, Gibson, Fellaini and Jelavic are likely to start when everyone is fit; who will fill the other 4 spots?
Paul Gladwell
72 Posted 30/09/2012 at 09:43:41
Martin,totally agree with you on Osman, he is a very good player and if he never let himself down and switch off occasionally he would be a top draw player in my eyes.
Brent Stephens
74 Posted 30/09/2012 at 09:56:16
Kevin #062. I would put Gibson (GIbbon to some, for some reason - cue for youtube link) in place of Nev. Osman playing too well to drop. RB then fought out between Nev, Hibb and Coleman (for my money - can't decide between them!).
James Martin
75 Posted 30/09/2012 at 10:39:52
Mick, Neville was terrible and Osman can only play with Gibson? What game were you watching?

Osman was probably MotM, fantastic on the ball and it was him and Neville that started us passing from the back that led to the first goal for us. They do the basics like showing for the ball and tracking runs that were so glaringly absent in mid-week.

Osman's just a great player, tactical awareness, passing range with both feet, great touch and ability, he was dictating play out there, if he had pace he'd be one of the top players in the league no question. Moyes is finally playing him as a first choice in his proper position and look at the results.
Paul Dark
76 Posted 30/09/2012 at 10:46:04
I thought it was a really mixed performance yesterday. We had a purple patch, but there were weaknesses which would've been exploited by most other teams in the league. Having said that, a great start to the campaign. Very pleased.

I'm baffled by the plaudits given to Osman: again, he gave the ball away quite a lot (especially when we were going forward and had committed men – a real speciality of his), tackled indifferently.

It seems to me that for every one good thing he does, he does 4 or 5 bad things. But Moyes and most on here seem to think he's great. As I say, I'm rather baffled. I feel we have two classes of player in the team at present – and Osman is definitely in the lower category (unlike, say, Fellaini, Jelly, Mirallas, Bainesy etc.).

Wayne Smyth
77 Posted 30/09/2012 at 10:54:53
Good win, great recovery from 0-1 down. Good performances by most of our players. Very poor second half.

I was pleased in particular with coleman who looked a threat. If he can work on his defensive side, I think we have a decent full back. I'm still not convinced he carries enough threat to be a right winger.

Mirallas continues to impress. Seems to have confidence and I'm sure he'll score 10+ for us this season playing as a winger.

Main downside for me was the failure to close the game in the second half. 3-1 up at home to a side who could well get relegated we should be pushing for 4 or 5, not taking our foot off the gas and inviting them onto us. Sides who believe they should be challenging near the top of the league don't do it. Neither should we.

Lee Gray
78 Posted 30/09/2012 at 11:20:21
Brilliant perfomance, player some great stuff.......BELIEVE!
Richard Reeves
79 Posted 30/09/2012 at 11:15:51
Some excellent football was played yesterday, well done Moyes and his backroom staff for the recent style of play and attacking attitude. Please let this be the blueprint for Moyes's future footballing philosophy. If it is then we have hope.

As Wayne Smyth says, Coleman looked a threat and I agree that he could become a decent full back. He needs to be first choice whether Hibbert or Neville are fit or not.

Sorry about this but on a slightly negative note, why didn't Howard simply extend his arm for that corner?
Paul Gladwell
80 Posted 30/09/2012 at 12:02:38
Well said James, watch the Mirallas goal last week, it was started by Neville being cool as a cucumber with his pass to Fellaini when most players would have resorted to a big hoof up the pitch.

We are second and by right we have also been robbed of two points; those two in the middle are doing a great job at the moment.
Andy Meighan
81 Posted 30/09/2012 at 11:19:07
I've slagged Oman and Coleman to bits recently. But credit where credit is due: the two of them were excellent today. Oman is a lovely little footballer but imo still too lightweight. As for Coleman, some of his play going forward today was top drawer. He still needs to work on his final ball but I still thought the two of them were head and shoulders above anything on the park, with six others close behind.

As for Jelavic, what can you say? Some of his antics before he got the goals were fucking infuriating. But the lad comes alive in the box. As well as Anichebe has played recently, there's not an earthly he would have scored them goals. This lad has ice running through his veins. Absolutly superb. Pity the bastard never got the 1st though as I had a few quid on him... but I can't complain: another good win and things are looking good.
David Hallwood
82 Posted 30/09/2012 at 12:52:56
I agree with Paul (#094), and I've posted a number of times that it doesn't matter what Ossie or Neville (or Hibbo) does, they'll always be an 'Ossie/Neville is shite' thread.

Having said that, imagine a CM partnership between Arteta & Gibson... Premier League winning side or wha'?

Bill Griffiths
83 Posted 30/09/2012 at 13:15:10
Glad to see some intelligent comments regarding Neville and Osman, who are both vital and influential to the way we play.

Just a thought of mine regarding Jelavic who I think is a terrific player but think he does go down and get knocked off the ball far too easily for a bloke of his stature etc. I'd be better pleased if he used his strength a bit more and also just got on with it a bit more instead of whinging and complaining about every knock and tackle he gets.
Danny Kewley
84 Posted 30/09/2012 at 12:48:53
Peter (#036) — I wouldn't be surprised if Oviedo at some point fills in at RB and makes a huge impact but who am I to say? A mere bricklayer trying to reconstruct a winning team! Some of the football yesterday was as good if not better than Howard's Heroes (in the first half). As far as the league goes, we might well be in second place but our style is second to none!
COYToffees!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Terry McLavey
85 Posted 30/09/2012 at 14:07:18
A bit worried for the first 20 minutes thought "the party was over!!" but they showed great character and didn't fold, I think if we hold on to everyone in January we could do something.

On another subject, I think it's rich "Fergie" complaining about an excess of injury time!! — after all the "play on 'till we score" he's enjoyed in the past!!
Paul Gladwell
86 Posted 30/09/2012 at 16:26:46
Bill, me and my mate made the same comment about Jelavic yesterday... at times his diving was embarrassing and he needs telling. He is a top draw forward and does not need to do it as he will end up like AJ and that prick over the park, never getting blatant penalties.
Andy Meighan
87 Posted 30/09/2012 at 17:59:10
Why are people saying we still need Donovan? Where would he play? I can't understand the clamour to get him back... Yes he's a good player but he's not going to be around a long time. I don't understand this at all.

We need squad players no doubt about it... but let's get players in who are going to be here for a while – not some fly-by-night, which Donovan is really in effect – nothing against the lad but let's put this talk of him to bed.

The lad Mirallas looks a better player to me and he's younger. He looks like he could wreak havoc at times; the way he makes space for himself is really clever, if we manage to keep injury free. Big ask I know.

We could be on the verge of something. I just hope Moyes doesn't revert to type on 28 October.
Ryan Holroyd
88 Posted 30/09/2012 at 18:40:07
I agree with James Martin. Osman is a class player. If he was Welsh and cost £15m then everyone would rave about him.
Rory Slingo
89 Posted 30/09/2012 at 18:45:31
Andy, you acknowledge the need for squad players, admit it's a big ask for Mirallas to stay injury-free, but still can't see why we'd possibly need Donovan? People want him because twice he's come in and done a job with little fuss and disruption to the team. He's a proven fit for the club, who cares if it's fly-by-night if it helps us to the top? Come end of season we can then look for long-term cover and take our time bedding them into the squad. Mid-season, Donovan is exactly the type of loan signing we need, IMO.
Andy Meighan
90 Posted 30/09/2012 at 21:54:36
Rory, I totally understand where you're coming from. You're right, he's twice come in and done a great job but it's not going to be for the long term and that's the point I'm making. We need players who are going to be around for a while... that's why I can't understand the clamour for him. Oh and I meant not just Mirallas staying injury free — I meant the side as a whole.
Jimmy Scales
91 Posted 30/09/2012 at 22:20:16
Totally agree Rory, Donovan would provide excellent cover in midfield in January at a time when we may need it most (what with possible injuries and suspensions depleting a very sparse squad).
Rory Slingo
92 Posted 30/09/2012 at 22:45:33
Andy, I'm with you on the long term bit. If Moyes could dig up a couple more signings that would gel immediately, like the way Jelavic did at the end of last season for example, I would totally prefer that over another 10 weeks with Donovan. I guess the clamour for him is because he's the only player the average fan could realistically expect to come in and do well in such a short time frame. I'm sure Moyes has a few names in mind but I don't know of anyone who'd be available in Jan who could do it tbh. For me, personally, he was also exciting to watch and I know you also meant the side as a whole but after seeing how well Mirallas and Coleman did down the right side against Soton, I think it's pretty important to have some cover there. Every team knows they have to shut down Bainaar to stop Everton. Well now we can score from the other side too and many teams won't be prepared to deal with that threat from Everton yet. We've got Oviedo as cover down the left and imo, Donovan would be ideal as cover on the right, barring any better names coming up between now and Jan who would play here for the peanuts we must be left with after the summer spending spree?
James Martin
93 Posted 30/09/2012 at 23:25:24
If the opportunity arose for Donovan to sign on loan again what would we have to lose by going for it? A couple of weeks worth of wages maybe at most. Even if he didn't play a game he's hardly going to disrupt the squad. I think over time some people's views on him have become distorted remembering him as some journey man pro who 'did a job' for us. From what I remember he was absolute quality in both his stints with a whopping number of assists and contributed to big wins over the top sides in both his spells here. Even in two loan spells he's probably pushing hard on Moyes's best ever 11 for the right wing spot. Fast, tactically and positionally perfect, quality of assists and a goal threat, plus he loves the club and we love him, what's the negative of this deal?
Ciarán McGlone
94 Posted 30/09/2012 at 23:57:20
I doubt Donovan would want to come here to sit on the bench for a month.

I'd like to see the contenders for Moyes's best eleven right wing spot...

Sean McCarthy
95 Posted 30/09/2012 at 19:51:51
Please don't be starting the annual 3 month "Donovan must come" campaign!!

We've moved on... and in all likelihood so has he.
Mick Davies
96 Posted 01/10/2012 at 01:58:27
James Martin, Osman was his usual self, average. He scored a goal, just by being lucky enough to be in the right place, but if Anichebe had spooned so many shots wide in one game, you'd be calling for him to be ditched.

Osman has had 10 years of mediocrity, getting pushed off the ball too easily, passing going astray, like last week which led to a goal. He's that good, no other club in a decade has made an enquiry about him, and he's never had a sniff of international caps, even though the England midfield has been shite many times over the last ten years.

He is too lightweight to play alongside a has-been like Neville and if you had watched the game, you'd have realised that a Championship side ran us ragged through the middle. that doesn't happen when we have the likes of Gibson, Carsley, Arteta, Gravesen, even Li Tie in there. Osman has never been good enough to deserve a stick on starting place, but he is a good squad player. Everton need to move on from the Hibberts and Osmans of the past, or we'll never progress.
Tony J Williams
97 Posted 01/10/2012 at 14:49:53
Osman didn't play on Tuesday, Mick.
Ian Smitham
98 Posted 01/10/2012 at 22:38:04
Mick, seems James and Tony J have put you into check, I am sure that you don't have preconceived ideas about what you want to say, so will be able to defend your comments about Osman. May I also respectfully point out that, from what I saw at the game on Saturday, Hibbert was not playing... and so, on a thread about that game, I am not sure what relevance mentioning Tony has. Still, as I said, James and Tony have you in check, so I guess the next move is over to you; good luck.
Mick Davies
99 Posted 02/10/2012 at 00:58:01
Ian, I didn't know we were playing a game, I am just stating my observations as a supporter of Everton FC since the boys pen days of our 70 Championship.

Okay, I may have been spoiled by the likes of Kendall, Ball, Reid, Bracewell etc over the years... but I think the club is progressing and, although I haven't said Osman is not good enough to play for us, I have been aware of his lack of bite, wayward passing, and the way he drifts out of games.

Be honest, tell me how many good games he's had in a row? He gets lauded when he scores, or has a decent game, then everybody seems to forget about him until they start realising how ineffective he is; then he pops up with a goal or busts a gut for half a game or so. It's not good enough, and he is 31 now, and him and Neville in CM together is calamitous.

When Gibson's back, and/or when we sign Hitz, then you can judge my comments on how we need to sort out the weakest part of our team. Southampton ran right through the middle of the park and Johnny and Jags had much more work than they should be getting. We were lucky not to draw the game, even after a 2-goal advantage...

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