David Moyes having to tinker with tactics and formations

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David Moyes talked about breaking up the Baines-Pienaar combo for the Chelsea game: "I don’t want it to become predictable about Pienaar and Baines down the left and I felt it was right we changed it and I think Pienaarcan do a job for us there [in a more central position, behind the main striker]."

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Chris Owens
1 Posted 01/01/2013 at 20:08:28
“If it ain’t broke, fix it until it is”.

Bryan Oviedo was signed as cover for either Baines or Pienaar. Why wasn’t he selected to play on the left wing when Pienaar was moved inside?

Edward Simpson
2 Posted 01/01/2013 at 20:16:50
Chris- Good point, I didn't watch the whole game but I thought Anichebe played a lot on the wing on Sunday.
I would love to see Oviedo given a chance maybe if Moyes wants to move things around.

Maybe put Pienaar on the right and have Oviedo on the left, he's looked good when he's come on in the last few games.

Gavin Ramejkis
3 Posted 01/01/2013 at 20:25:26
Edward, Anichebe started out quite well playing alongside/off the shoulder of Jelavic on Sunday, he dropped back onto the wing later in the game which was a shame as we lost the impetus we had in the first 20 mins. I've no idea if it was his idea but doubt it. Oviedo strikes me as a decent winger who plays with his head up looking for a pass and willing to take on a player when he's got it. Putting him on the left and moving Pienaar to the right in the absence of Mirallas or Coleman makes sense.
Shane Corcoran
4 Posted 01/01/2013 at 22:11:31
I don't think Pienaar on the right would work. He'd need pace to go outside the full back which he doesn't have.
Predictable is fine by me if the opposition struggle to stop it.
Gavin Ramejkis
5 Posted 01/01/2013 at 22:33:55
Shane so what does he use to go past a fullback on the left? Is gravity greater on one side of the pitch?
Shane Corcoran
6 Posted 01/01/2013 at 22:40:18
Yes Gavin, gravity is greater on one side of the pitch.

Playing on the left he cuts inside and so has the width of the field to work with without having to actually beat a man. Plus Baines overlapping to use.

If he cuts in on the right side he's on his less favoured foot and so for best results would need to go on the outside.

But you already knew all this.

Gavin Ramejkis
7 Posted 01/01/2013 at 22:58:54
Oddly enough Shane FIFA have him listed as a right footer, he can play either wing, his goal against Chelski was........you can see it coming.......scored with his right foot
Shane Corcoran
8 Posted 01/01/2013 at 23:12:41
He is right-footed. That's what I'm saying. Where am I losing you?
Gavin Ramejkis
9 Posted 01/01/2013 at 23:31:56
Oviedo is left footed - left winger, Pienaar can use either and is stronger on his right preferred foot - can play either

Right footed stronger on right wing as you cut in protecting the ball on your outer foot rather than having to bring it across your body to your preferred foot which is what he does on the left, as a right footed player on the right wing ou can also cross quicker than you can as the ball is on your outer stronger foot. Not lost just cant see the logic saying he has to beat a man to get a cross in when the ball is already on his stronger foot yet on the left wing he doesn't have to despite it being invariably inside and easier for an opposition right back or crossing cemtre half to attack.

Si Cooper
10 Posted 02/01/2013 at 00:01:10
Simple reality is that Pienaar doesn't play like the classic winger (looking to get to the goal-line to cross laterally into the area) whether he is on the right or the left.

He seems to prefer the left though, and I don't think he has a problem playing centrally, but that may be because of the options to be more creative that Baines's craft and industry give him. It is certainly easier for a right footer to cut back inside and get a shot away from the left flank.

He has a history of swapping wings with other players but he won't give us more creativity on the right on his own, and would certainly need an over-lapping right back if we wanted lots of crosses from that side (which I think is Shane's point).

Shane Corcoran
11 Posted 02/01/2013 at 13:36:22
Exactly Si.

Gavin, any decent full-back will force a player to at least gain a yard to get a cross in and that's why I think Pienaar would struggle. I also disagree that he's comfortable on his left.

Barry Granton
12 Posted 03/01/2013 at 13:51:09
Cracking debate and great to read! Baines makes Pienaar look fantastic and vice versa, swap either and the magic fades away. But I would most definitely like to see more of Oviedo sometime this season. No doubt he'll get his chance. he looks a very technically and gifted player. Nice for once to have a option to use.
Richard Earle
13 Posted 04/01/2013 at 19:49:02
Imperative we get a centre mid and right winger on loan just as cover for our walking woundered. Who knows how long they will be out for? On the everton website Coleman's injury is listed as 'unknown'. Kick Heitinga out put Neville at right back, move Fellaini into the Gibson role for the time being and play Anichebe and Jelavic up front with support from Velios. I also agree about giving Oviedo a chance, he could be a real star for us.
Stuart Mitchell
14 Posted 04/01/2013 at 20:01:03
Mirallas and Coleman on the right for me. Potential to be as dangerous at Baines Pienaar.


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