Moyes not optimistic on signings

, Liverpool Echo , 26 January, 53comments  |  Jump to most recent
David Moyes has expanded on the challenge of finding players in the January transfer window that he can bring in to freshen up Everton's flagging efforts at chasing glory this season.

“I think from the start I said that January wouldn't be full of signings, I don't think I'll be changing my tune from where we started. You never know, we might. We've tended to be Christmas Eve shoppers in the past, so hold on to your hat. I don't think there has been a big market at the moment.

“There have been a certain few clubs and there's been the odd buy, Liverpool buying Sturridge, but not many clubs have done an awful lot. QPR, Newcastle, and Reading have tried to bring in players to help them but there isn't a lot around the mid-group. I don't think January's a good market. We have targets but a lot of them, the club might not want them to go until the summer or you can't get them until the summer.

“Maybe some clubs need the money and might sell a player and that's something we have to look at. Thee aren't 20 (players) available. If you realistically look around, you would look at 20 and say ‘I don't want him, I don't want him, I don't need that position, I don't want him, he's too old, he's not ready' so you might come down to one or two.

“By the time you'd done all that you might find there aren't that many, but I've got a wry smile. There's no science at all. Far from it. It's a bit of luck or just the way things work.”

“If you have a couple of injuries, you might need something to give you a back-up, but I'd be hoping that we'd only be bringing someone in who could play at the top end of the Premier League and that comes down to availability or costing — that makes it difficult.”

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Harj Badwal
1 Posted 26/01/2013 at 18:02:53
Surely Landon Donovan should be persuased to join, even on loan! COYB!
Mark Tanton
2 Posted 26/01/2013 at 18:03:42
We're a fucking embarassment. Liverpool have agreed a fee for Couthino today I see. They've still found £20m in one window after wasting so much in previous years. We are a bit of a joke really.
Marc Sansum
3 Posted 26/01/2013 at 18:08:47
Maybe it's because they bring in more than we do, just in merchandising/sponsors. We may not like it but they do have a huge fanbase.

If you ain't got the money, you ain't got the money (regardless of how much in debt we are). Frustrating? Embarrassing? Yes.... Can we do anything about it? Unlikely......

Zaid Omar
4 Posted 26/01/2013 at 18:10:40
It's a joke!! Goodbye Top 4! Well at least after today he can't say that Mirallas return "feels like a new signing" ...
Jamie Sweet
5 Posted 26/01/2013 at 18:12:18
We may never have a better chance at a Champions League spot again. Why not throw some cash at the squad, say £20m. If we finish 4th or above then we should recoup most of that back, and if we don't then we sell Fellaini for £30m in the summer as he will want out anyway.

Maybe this is a simplistic look at it, but I see very little risk in doing this with the potential for great reward.

Over to you Uncle Bill.....

Barry White
6 Posted 26/01/2013 at 18:15:10
Mark, I don't give two fucks what them shower of cunts do. They're fucking shit. We have a better team than them and we all know how deluded they are to even think they're gonna finish in the top 6.

Fuck them. I know we're well below par at the moment but well turn it around. Jela will come good. In my opinion, we need Odidja-Ofoe and that's it.

Paul Ferry
7 Posted 26/01/2013 at 18:26:06
Don't hold your breath, Jamie mate, though it all adds up for me too.
Chris Corn
8 Posted 26/01/2013 at 18:23:30
The problem is a lot of you don't care who we buy as long as we spend money on any old shite. He says the players he wants aren't there. Makes me laugh the way Moyes's own words get ignored or twisted and it all becomes Kenwright's fault.

Everton live within the means at their disposal. It's a bitter pill to swallow but there it is. It's still a squad full of internationals earning big money as much as people love to peddle their conspiracy theories.

James Morgan
9 Posted 26/01/2013 at 18:41:07
Chris, if there is no money available and it's not Kenwright's fault, who's fault is it?

We are a big Premier League club getting outspent by a bunch of no-mark also-rans. There are plenty of players out there who have only six months of their contract remaining and would cost minimal fees. It's a joke.

Adam Baig
10 Posted 26/01/2013 at 18:41:42
Chris 866 - It looks obvious to me that the current squad needs freshening up. The players look stale, and we saw last year what a couple of new faces can do. Kenwright has missed lots of previous chances to increase the value of his asset to somewhere near the price he wants for it - I don't expect him to take this one......
Daniel Heaton
11 Posted 26/01/2013 at 18:42:13
With Mirallas catching 'Rodwellitis' it is now imperative that we open the coffers.
Patrick Murphy
12 Posted 26/01/2013 at 19:07:35
Everyone quite rightfully bemoans the injuries to Mirallas and Gibson, but the player we have missed the most in my opinion is Tony Hibbert, he is one of the best tacklers in the squad and he is also able to cross the ball from the right-hand side. Tony also doesn't let any of his team-mates rest on their laurels if they're not giving 100%. We have missed his presence more than I thought we would. He played over 30 times last season and it would be interesting to see how many times he was involved in the build up to Jelavaic's goals.
He's not perfect by any means, but he is the type of player we could do with being available at this moment in time.

Ian Bennett
13 Posted 26/01/2013 at 19:16:17
Patrick - I think you need to drink slower mate, it's only 7 o'clock.
Patrick Murphy
14 Posted 26/01/2013 at 19:18:25
I'm that unusual breed of Irishmen, tee-total!
Steven Telford
15 Posted 26/01/2013 at 19:10:23
I bet many of the people complaining about him not buy, would also be the first to complain if he bought just for the sake of buying. Buying the wrong players is hugely expensive in the long run, and it’s something we can afford even less than not buying at all. Moreover, if Moyes was not going to sign a new deal, it would be in his personal self-interest to “try anything”, the fact that he is still be cautions is a good sign – and that applies to whether he personally stays or goes.
Dean Adams
16 Posted 26/01/2013 at 19:18:43
Oh dear Patrick. Never mind, won't be long. Although if we are ever to win anything he will not be in the first 11.
Patrick Murphy
17 Posted 26/01/2013 at 19:20:12
Steven you make a good point, when the likes of Gueye and others are clearly not the type of players required at the top end of the PL, however, if the right player is available at the right price we should be in the market for them. I don't think Moyes is the type of person to spend for spendings sake, but I'm sure he would like to have a bit more depth to the squad despite the limited resources.
Phil Walling
18 Posted 26/01/2013 at 19:21:39
Kenwright has never put his own money in — and why should he? His duty is to see that the Club is run efficiently (which it is) and generates revenue in commercial fields (which it doesn`t). Having said that, he`s a crap chairman who struck lucky in finding the one manager with the ability to bore the arses of us all whilst managing to keep the Club in the higher reaches of the Prem.

Because we will spend no money in this window means settling for around 7th place with the Shite almost certainly above us... What`s new about that scenario?

Mark Tanton
19 Posted 26/01/2013 at 19:47:44
I have to say you're right in my opinion Phil. The writing is on the wall, we've had our good half a season - second half is going to be tough. I think we'll find both West Brom and Villa tough games next week.
Nick Entwistle
20 Posted 26/01/2013 at 19:50:28
Efficiently?
James Morgan
21 Posted 26/01/2013 at 19:49:07
Steven, you don't know they are the wrong players until you buy them, generally speaking.
There is no guarantee a player will work or not. We need players, loans, freebies, or small fee acquisition.s
Our squad is too small and as we sit around twiddling our thumbs, other teams are strengthening with the aim of overhauling us.
Colin Glassar
22 Posted 26/01/2013 at 20:02:24
Moyes is always the optimist isn't he? Jesus no wonder sometimes we are so dour with him in charge. Must be a laugh a minute with him in the dressing room.
Mark Lennon
23 Posted 26/01/2013 at 20:25:35
Spoke to Darron Gibson at the game today. He said he was fit and ready for Wednesday. This will be massive if (and a big if) we keep him fit!
James Stewart
25 Posted 26/01/2013 at 21:07:09
Agree with Jamie above. I don't see us challenging for the top 4 this time next year so if there ever was a time to invest its now. We won't and will pay the price.
Paul Ellam
26 Posted 26/01/2013 at 19:50:21
Have faith people. Moyes will bring in a couple before the week's out and we will continue to hold our own...
Chris Owens
27 Posted 26/01/2013 at 21:50:44
You think things are bad now? Just wait till someone triggers the clause in Fellaini’s contract at the last minute. It’s all gone quiet on that one. Remember Arteta leaving with no time for us to bring in replacements?
Phil Roberts
28 Posted 26/01/2013 at 21:52:05
We ain't go to get 4th - United, City, Chelsea & Spurs. End of.

Bobby Mallon
29 Posted 26/01/2013 at 21:45:12
Chris corn, you talk rubbish. We have 3 board members who are fucking loaded but won't put a penny of their own money into the club.

Another thing: there are a few players out there, the boy from West Ham who has a £3.5M buy-out clause... peanuts, for fuck sake — especially when we're getting extra cash from TV next season. If we were supposed to have bid £6.5M just last week for a player then why not now?

I'm fucking sick of getting so close and the board not going the last leg. If it means selling to improve then sell Fellaini and Baines for £50M and rebuild them two re not the be all and end all. I'm sure there are players just as good if not better out there.

John Crawley
30 Posted 26/01/2013 at 21:58:04
We already had a negative spend in the summer (yet again). As much as I have my criticisms of Moyes the failure for the lack of players coming in rest solely on the board. We had it reported by two journalists at The Times that he asked the board to advance him some money from next years television money to spend in this January transfer window. He would hardly do that if he didn't think he would have anyone to buy!
Steven Telford
31 Posted 26/01/2013 at 22:08:04
Yes, it’s true you never know for sure a player fits till you try. In our current position we have a very fine line to tread, caution is the order of the day. That doesn’t mean that there is no such thing as, “too much caution”.

I think we need to go hunting for the next Cahill, Baines, Arteta, or Pienaar – by that I mean, good players in the Championship, lower league bargains and misfits to make a home for – respectively, you may not. We can’t be so cautious that we don’t spend, but risking the pot on a big name is luxury that we can no longer afford. Saying, I was disappointed that we lost M’Vila and Holtby.

Hummmmmm... the more you look at it, it’s difficult club to manage, people must surely agree?

Let’s face it, Everton need a good Scotsman in all senses of the term. ;-)

Roman Sidey
32 Posted 26/01/2013 at 22:01:49
Tony Who, Patrick?
Patrick Murphy
33 Posted 26/01/2013 at 22:21:40
Tony Hey Bert no....Tony Hip Hurt ...oh I can't remember.
Andy Meighan
34 Posted 26/01/2013 at 22:40:45
Why is it when the window is nearing its end does the name of Landon Donovan crop up. FFS was he really that good some of our supporters are like love-struck teenagers screaming for their girlfriend to come back. He was just a decent player nothing more get over it. We've been there done that. Move on.
Gareth Fieldstead
35 Posted 26/01/2013 at 22:37:11
I have said the same thing for over a month Jamie. Borrow against the additional television revenue or the sales of Baines and Fellaini if we don't achieve 4th. I suppose it boils down to the banks being prepared to do that or Kenwright getting one of his chums to stump up the cash. We need a right winger and forward. I have previously mentioned a defensive midfielder but if Mark or rather Gibson is honest then maybe we can go without this position until the summer.
Trevor Lynes
36 Posted 27/01/2013 at 14:08:55
Whats with all the Landon talk...he is a year or two older and who knows how he is playing.
Forget Landon, he did a job a couple of seasons ago for a few weeks.

It appears that article writers on here are giving the club all the excuses they need not to do business.
Let them tell you that we have no money, don't do it for them.! I get really exasperated at people just accepting this drivel every season while every other club does something to strengthen their squads for the run in.
WE HAVE BIGGER GATES AND FINISH HIGHER THAN MOST OTHERS !!!! So I do not accept we can do nothing !

All of our board members are millionnaires and multi millionnaires but none of them dip their hands in to help this club progress.
Other owners do and thats the rub !
Sir John Moores did and we won the title.
If they speculated a bit the fans would be happy and if we won a fourth place the club would prosper.
Please stop just accepting the no money excuse, if clubs below us can buy players then so can we.
We make more money every season than the vast majority of other clubs.
We have emptied out most of our top earners.
We loan out more than we loan in.
These are facts.

Tom Evans
37 Posted 27/01/2013 at 15:10:24
What we could do with £80m eh?

Slightly off on a tangent I accept, but I heard a statistic yesterday that the figure mentioned above, is what Randy Lerner has given his managers in a three year period.

I am setting myself up for a fall here, but without doing any research, I am pretty sure that Moyes has had nowhere near that amount at his disposal. If only he had a quarter of that money, I am sure he could put it to good use.

Brian Abbott
38 Posted 27/01/2013 at 18:57:02
I've read through a few of these now and anybody who feels we don't need one or two new GOOD players to brighten up the squad is in cloud cuckoo land. Beyond our top 11 we struggle badly to influence games. Now we have the problem with Mirallas, together with a forward line that at times looks a bit bereft.

Our injuries (Mirallas, Gibson, Hibbert) together with loss of form (Jelavic, Pienaar and a few others if truth be told) are starting to tell. We need a win over West Brom and a new face or two to get things back on track.

Other than that, a great weekend. Now let's show that red shower how to dispose of Oldham.

ps: Man Utd another home draw??? Probably have the final at Old Trafford just to keep everybody happy.

John Crawley
39 Posted 27/01/2013 at 19:58:04
Trevor 114 - spot on. People just letting the board off the hook. It's down to them to increase the revenue and to support the manager. I also don't think its asking to much for them to guarantee some of the loans. They aren't doing it!
Trevor Lynes
40 Posted 27/01/2013 at 23:21:51
John #350... I get so angry about all the negative acceptance that our club has no money for transfers. Every business has overheads which includes stock, tools materials etc. The PLAYERS are our stock and, if stock is not replenished when necessary, the business founders!

Even when our board provides no money we still cry poverty and look for cheap stop gaps and hope that the manager keeps our heads above water. No other club was after Hahnemann, McFadden and Hitzlsperger so why were they employed? We continually shop were there is no competition and pick from left overs. It is not good enough for a club which is always in the top ten and has good gates every week.

For the first time in years we have a really competitive first eleven but we have no bench to support the first team. All the top teams have injuries at this time of the season but they have equally good reserves.

This board of millionaires MUST help DM to add impetus to the chase for top four position as they are an embarrassment to the posts they hold. I don't want to see blame attached wrongly: blame the organ grinder not the monkey!!

Shane Corcoran
41 Posted 28/01/2013 at 07:50:42
For what it's worth Sky Sports, via The Sun (huh huh), reckon that Moyes saying ........."but if I have to have a bet on whether we will get someone in, then I would back myself to do it."

Noel Early
42 Posted 28/01/2013 at 08:04:32
Love the way Moyes fills us with hope. Punching above our weight and the "I've no money" line is wearing a bit thin with me now. Use some of the new TV money and push on. Jesus how hard can it be.
Phil Walling
43 Posted 28/01/2013 at 08:25:15
Can`t agree, Trevor! There are very few businesses in which the directors are expected to put in their personal wealth in order to appear to attain better results. Much as I detest the present Everton Board, I see their task as more a responsibility to establish a proper business plan to generate additional income streams rather than bailing out the manager on whim signings.

Until the Board add ambition to their survival strategy, things will never change... although the same thing could be said about the manager, I guess!

Mike Webb
44 Posted 28/01/2013 at 08:05:56
The Premier League has been awash with money since its inception. That money has increased in steps with every new TV deal, which in turn has opened up the sponsorship opportunities.

In that time our debt position has worsened, we have liquidated as many assets as possible to fund the business, and have been dependent on selling on our best players to fund team development - a team that is now approaching in average age terms what the manager inherited when he took over.

I think it's fair to say the Board haven't performed to their best on this. And yet still they wait for a massive pay day as a "reward" for their efforts.

John Otway
45 Posted 28/01/2013 at 08:36:56
And, Phil, there are very few businesses in which the performance of the directors is not monitored and regularly reviewed. The commercial activity (or lack of it) allied to the missed opportunity that was the Kings Dock should be sufficient to make this board hang its collective head in shame.
Kevin Tully
46 Posted 28/01/2013 at 09:46:50
I will stick my neck out and make a prediction. We will definitely bring in a player, or even two before the deadline closes.

This board are not stupid enough to give their detractors more ammunition to use against them. They know quite well if Moyes goes, even the most ardent supporter of BK ( stop laughing, there are some left ) will realise they are completely out of their depth running this club.

They have seen the articles, outlining the new TV money next season, and Moyes himself is actually playing a game with his employers.

It is in the public domain he has requested funds to freshen the squad, who could actually support the board if Moyes left, knowing it was because BK and friends refused to advance the cost of wages for a short-term loan deal?

Let's give the board some credit, they have manged to fool the majority of blues for years now, they not about to suddenly show their true colours, for the sake of a loan deal or two for the next 6 months.

You will see a breaking news headline on the official website on Friday morning, with two foreign imports who haven't a clue where they are in the world, holding up a shirt with their name on.

Trevor Lynes
47 Posted 28/01/2013 at 11:56:40
I truly hope you are right Mister Kevin.

BUT I don't want to see any Lucas Neils, Hahnemanns or McFaddens being given short term jobs as bench warmers.

Thomas Surgenor
48 Posted 28/01/2013 at 13:26:44
If we could also poach Christian Errikson from the Dutch League we would be flying.

Martin Mason
49 Posted 28/01/2013 at 13:13:36
There are a few illusions that have to be dispelled. Firstly John Moores didn't put his own money into EFC he just guaranteed loans to buy players. This was at a time when we were massive and could pay back the loans easily. Secondly, no business person puts his own money into a business unless he gets a return from it and there is nobody on the EFC board who is crazy enough to put money into the black hole that is EFC. Thirdly, we are a football club from a third city competing for revenue with a neighbour with a large fan base, we have likely maxed out now on income and debt and we just don't have any money for playes either loan or buy. We are where we are and there is no magic wand other than a benefactor willing to put many millions into the club to get it straight but where would the income then come from to sustain that? Where does this mythical benefator come from given that he has to be an Evertonian and expect no return for his money.

I take a lot of stick for saying this but I believe that many are now accepting it. We are broke, our business model is to sell to survive, buy cheap, pay low and develop as much of our own talent as possible. That is our lot and we are doing amazingly well considering. We are not Liverpool or United, the satisfaction that we have to take from our football is that we can compete with them despite having nothing like their financial clout. We are extremely unlikely now ever to win trophies but we can still be proud of both our team and our club. It has been grossly mismanaged for decades now and the payback time has come.

Stuart Mitchell
50 Posted 28/01/2013 at 13:43:17
I hope this means no more Neville in CM!
Stuart Mitchell
51 Posted 28/01/2013 at 14:44:22
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Leroy #Fer is an athletic dynamic midfielder with great skills! He plays for the Dutch national team and will make #Everton stronger. #COYB

Ian Bennett
52 Posted 28/01/2013 at 19:10:37
He's a miserable sod that Moyes... the mob: "We're not signing anyone, we have no hope." Meanwhile, in the background, magic happens........
Gerry Quinn
53 Posted 28/01/2013 at 19:15:57
Moyes is totally correct in stating:
a) We have no money available
b) We are unlikely to get anyone in during the January transfer window
c) It's not a good time to get anyone in January
d) blah, blah, blah

Moyes is totally correct in winding everyone up, because:
a) Harry Redknapp can't jump in to snatch anyone from his grasp
b) It hopefully puts the asking price down when he cries that he is poor
c) It continues to baffle the idiotic and clueless media
d) He's a canny Scot

Be thankful that he is as good at telling wee fibs and will therefore take advantage of any opportunity he gets. I bet he has had this planned out for weeks, if not months. Ha!

Tom Evans
54 Posted 28/01/2013 at 20:14:39
Full marks to Kevin (#458). Spot on with his first paragraph.

Good on yer!


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