Season › 2012-13 › News New manager needed soon, says Sharp Michael Kenrick , 16 May, 81comments | Jump to most recent Ideal timeframe is 2 to 3 weeks... Graeme Sharp has urged the club not to drag their feet as they look to appoint a successor to David Moyes. But with a week now passed since Moyes's imminent departure was confirmed, there is only an ever-expanding list of speculative choices coming from the bookies and fans, with Chairman Bill Kenwright having warned that the process would take time. “I would want a manager in place in the next two or three weeks,” Sharp said. “It will give him time to evaluate what he has got and where he is going to be pre-season. I'm sure the club are working at it. And the sooner the new manager is in place the better. “The hardest thing in football is appointing a new manager. It's such a difficult job to make that choice, and nobody knows whether it is going to be a success. I'm sure the chairman will be hoping he can get another David Moyes, but it's the luck of the draw really. “The most experienced, successful manager in the world could come in and might not be able to do the job as he doesn't have the tools at his disposal. Seven players are 30 and over in the squad now and Everton are coming to a situation similar to the one David inherited which is top heavy with senior players. “It's going to be a big ask to keep the club going forward. For me, investment is what is needed to push it on any further. The pressure will still be on the board because of the need for that investment and that will always be there until someone comes in and does otherwise.” According to quotes attributed to him in The Mail, the Goodison legend doesn't feel that oddsmakers' favourite Neil Lennon would be the right appointment, saying that he would be "very surprised" if the Celtic boss "got anywhere near Everton." "He has done OK at Celtic," Sharp said, "but I'm not sure he has done enough to warrant the Everton job.‘Massive though Celtic are, this is a very difficult job in following Davie Moyes." Quotes or other material sourced from Liverpool Daily Post Reader Comments (81) Note: the following content is not moderated or vetted by the site owners at the time of submission. Comments are the responsibility of the poster. Disclaimer Paul Holden 1 Posted 16/05/2013 at 14:06:16 Take your time Blues, got to get it right! Colin Glassar 2 Posted 16/05/2013 at 14:06:32 Sharply wants an insider to be named or if not, a fellow scot. I think that means either Pip or Neville. He has BK's ear. Colin Glassar 3 Posted 16/05/2013 at 14:09:44 Oops, Neville or McKay. Steavey Buckley 4 Posted 16/05/2013 at 14:06:39 Everton are in the same situation as a team facing the play offs who cannot make any transfer targets until the results is known. While other teams can get on with preparing for another season. Jon Withey 5 Posted 16/05/2013 at 14:18:42 Well, they know where they are going to finish, they know we will be in the premiership. They know they haven't got a manager. Even if we kept the exact same squad the manager needs to get in ASAP for the pre-season. But we could do with adding a few and we are bound to lose a few. No need to panic yet, but 2-3 weeks seems like a reasonable time-frame. Kevin Tully 6 Posted 16/05/2013 at 14:22:26 Col #427 - In a Reservoir Dogs type scenario? Colin Glassar 7 Posted 16/05/2013 at 14:24:42 Kev, that would be fun to watch. I just know BK is going to mess this up. I can feel it in my water. Roberto Birquet 8 Posted 16/05/2013 at 14:26:22 Fellaini will go, and the money should be enough to bring in three young players: centre back, centre mid, and centre forward. Add the departues of Pip, Heitinga and Mucha, and we'll at least need another keeper with those funds. The we're down to just five 30+ yr old players: and one of them is a keeper, which is not so serious.So one of the key things at Everton is another Moyes when it comes to the transfer market. It is ironic that so many who are viruntly anti-Moyes also claim we have a strong squad: a squad assembled with relatively few funds by the target of their derision, Moyes.I'm concerned about Martinez because of his perenially leaky defences. I might feel more relaxed if Wier or Stubbs stayed on as the defence coach alongside Martinez, if he did come in. Is a Prem coach gonna be that humble, though? Robin Cannon 9 Posted 16/05/2013 at 14:40:41 Sharp is absolutely right. If possible managerial targets genuinely hadn't been considered until the announcement of Moyes' departure hadn't been made, given his expiring contract, then that's just (unsurprising) negligence from BK and the board.Making a first managerial change in over a decade, it's vital that the new man has a full close season to assess the squad, move for transfer targets, and prepare for the new season. The longer we delay past the end of the season, the worse it will be. Peter Foy 10 Posted 16/05/2013 at 14:47:20 Roberto, we don't have any funds. We made a loss of 9m last year, after profits from player sales.I'm sure I read recently on here somewhere (Bleacher Report I think) that these profits were around 20m. Basically if we sell 30m pound worth of players, we'll break even and the 9m from last year still needs to be paid.What's the odds on player's getting sold before the next manager is in place? Phil Sammon 11 Posted 16/05/2013 at 14:45:21 RobertoI don't think anyone slaughtered Moyes for his transfers. He's done fantastic in that department. It was his tactics that wound people up. As much as you have to love Sharpy, he really is does spout the most tedious inanities. Considering the amount of time he seems to spend yapping to the media, I'm yet to hear him say anything even slightly thought provoking. I also don't really buy this argument that we have an aging team. We have a very good mix of youth and experience, which Moyes could have assisted by giving the youth more time on the pitch. Heitinga can clear off, Hibbo is no longer first choice, Ossie should be rotated with Barkley. There's only really Distin that needs replacing - and I don't even think that needs to happen in the next 12 months. Duffy could see more action, but his ball distribution makes Jagielka look like Beckenbauer. Sharpy's only valid point seems to be that we need to appoint a new manager. How fucking insightful. Peter Foy 12 Posted 16/05/2013 at 14:57:32 Another thing that has to happen this summer is the renegotiating of all these dodgy pay day loans from the British Virgin Islands. With all these tax havens under intense scrutiny, who knows what might happen.What if they want their money back? Thomas James 15 Posted 16/05/2013 at 15:00:14 "Take your time, hurry up, the choice is yours, but don't be late." KC 1991 Kevin Day 16 Posted 16/05/2013 at 15:23:22 Stubbs odds have been slashed!!! Terry Anderson 17 Posted 16/05/2013 at 15:40:05 I think we need to go get Michael Laudrup, end of. No-one from the Everton setup does not have the experience in the Premier League... Laudrup knows his tactics. His team play good one-touch football, and won a cup. He took a small Spanish team to the quarter finals in Europe and won the Spanish Cup!! He was a top player and comes across well on the telly .. No more Scottish managers !!! Laudrup fits the bill perfect... If Laudrup cost money, he would be worth it... The rest if the names put forward not good enough!!! James Lauwervine 18 Posted 16/05/2013 at 15:38:06 Phil, I think Sharpy is making the valid point that the situation needs to be resolved ASAP and should not be allowed to drag on to the point when Moyes officially goes. Reading between the lines is this him saying that Moyes should go now instead of this six-week limbo period we're now facing? And sorry to drag up something from an another thread but why the fuck can't the media just call him Man Utd manager elect. Please no one answer that. Paul Ferry 19 Posted 16/05/2013 at 16:03:15 Seven wounds of Christ.Little hideous shitbag Lennon is now leader of the pack.NONeil Lennon 11/4Roberto Martinez 3/1Alan Stubbs 6/1Gus Poyet 8/1Malky Mackay 20/1Ole Gunnar Solskjaer 25/1Vitor Pereira 25/1Mark Hughes 28/1Phil Neville 28/1Rafael Benitez 40/1Michael Laudrup 40/1Duncan Ferguson 40/1Peter Reid 250/1 John Ford 20 Posted 16/05/2013 at 16:05:03 They shot the wrong Lennon! Colin Glassar 21 Posted 16/05/2013 at 16:06:55 There's still time John. Kunal Desai 22 Posted 16/05/2013 at 16:07:40 This is Everton. Nothing ever happens soon. Probably make an announcement the night before the season kicks off. Only the Everton way, the puppets know no better. Patrick Murphy 23 Posted 16/05/2013 at 16:05:11 If it is Lennon, nothing will happen for another 10 days or so, they still have a Cup Final to play. I don't like those odds though it seems a straight race between Martinez and Lennon. The stumbling block is our spending power, so that in itself will limit the choices available.If the only choice was between Lennon and Martinez, I don't know which way I'd go, Martinez seems naturally suited, being a gentleman and respected, whereas Lennon is a little abrasive and doesn't like losing but doesn't really suit the club's image Matt Traynor 24 Posted 16/05/2013 at 16:11:39 Peter #455, my understanding is the Vibrac loans were short-term (12 months) borrowed against the TV money, albeit up to 2 years worth in advance.This by the way explains why we couldn't sign anyone in January. There's a big chunk of the domestic TV deal payable in January, and ours serviced the loan, hence no Fer, Negredo etc. Eugene Ruane 25 Posted 16/05/2013 at 16:12:22 Colin (436) - "I just know BK is going to mess this up. I can feel it in my water"There is more doubt in my mind about the sun rising in the morning and setting at night - of COURSE he'll fuck it upJust select your list of potential managers, look at the one you would choose last - that'll be him.(so Hughes it is then!) Paul David 26 Posted 16/05/2013 at 16:24:04 Who ever it, imagine their shock on the first day of training." Jelavic, Anichebe and Naismith are the only forwards I have? "" Yes "" But none of them can kick a ball " Phil Sammon 27 Posted 16/05/2013 at 16:29:04 Stubbs is the favourite on William Hill. Interesting. These people who say, 'The bookies are rarely wrong'. Well that's bound to be the case when they change their odds every bloody day! Ben Jones 28 Posted 16/05/2013 at 16:20:29 Matt,That doesnt make any sense. Its like me going to a shop, buying a TV, going to the checkout and then saying "Oh yeah, I don't have any money"They wouldnt have gone all the way discussing the transfer of these two if they didnt have ANY money. With Fer, he had dodgy exploding knees, and with Negredo, we had some money, but not enough for his valuation.Kenwright obviously coffed money out of somewhere, and it is so important it is available in the summer. Knowing him though, he will put the money back him in the bank again. Chris Keightley 29 Posted 16/05/2013 at 16:30:41 Paul David # 496 - not sure what relevance that dig has to the above thread - alot of wanky comments recently, without substance, rather tedious and a tad boring Richard Dodd 30 Posted 16/05/2013 at 16:30:27 My mate at our Leigh depot claims to be `a personal friend of the Dave Whelan family`. (His wife probably knows their cleaner!)He tells me that the Wigan Chair is meeting Martinez on Monday `when he`s expecting a decision on a move to Everton which has been in the air since Cristmas`.All fits the script to me! Matt Traynor 31 Posted 16/05/2013 at 16:44:58 Ben #499, as has been reported wildly, the fee was agreed with FC Twente. The medical issue was used to try to change the payment terms (even though Leroy has not missed a game for them since). The FC Twente Chairman was Whelan-esque in his public utterances about it, saying words to the effect of "they never had the money all along".The Vibrac loans being against TV monies is also long-established. Matt Traynor 32 Posted 16/05/2013 at 16:47:14 "reported wildly"? Widely maybe. Don't know what the Dutch media is like to be honest. Patrick Murphy 33 Posted 16/05/2013 at 16:49:05 Don't panic David Moyes is not leaving us to go to MUFC, he's carrying on his work at Goodison, well David Moyes Snr that is, according to the Daily Record.http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/sport/football/football-news/davie-Moyes-dad-im-proud-1892143 Paul English 34 Posted 16/05/2013 at 16:48:33 How bout David Beckham and Phil Neville as his assistant? Plus marks new owners queuing up millions from sponsorships... just a thought, guys! Barry Rathbone 35 Posted 16/05/2013 at 16:51:47 Obviously waiting for todays meeting between Matinez and Whelan to conclude - fingers crossed Whelan rings BK to say Roberto is all yours!What a hoot it will be watching the meltdown on here followed a few months later by "I always said he was good!" - as we beat the shite, play decent football and win something after all these years. Scott Bosworth 36 Posted 16/05/2013 at 17:19:31 Neil Lennon is what Brendan Rodgers would be if he was grumpy and ginger. Please no. Eugene Ruane 37 Posted 16/05/2013 at 17:09:50 Patrick (509) Reading that, you can see where Moyes gets his..um..'Moyseyness' fromI love the 'oul fellers quaint 1930s presbytrerian choice of words and attitude.ie: "He has grown into a great citizen" (innit though blood!)By the way, that has to be the WORST picture of Moyes EVER taken.I thought I'd seen if before but I was actually thinking of this...http://www.thefeaturedcreature.dreamhosters.com/wordpress6/wp-content/uploads/2012/10/Screen%2Bshot%2B2011-06-08%2Bat%2B9.16.46%2BPM2.png Nick Waters 38 Posted 16/05/2013 at 17:18:43 Bit naive Ben #499. Never heard of 'the money's ring fenced'? Or perhaps, 'the deal of the century'. What about 'the cheque's in the post'?It had been expected by most fans that we would invest in Jan to consolidate the top 4 push. Would it be beyond Kenwright to lie to the fans about 'near miss' transfers when there was never any money to spend. He does produce fiction for a living you know!He said he would consult fans about the new manager. Has anyone got any news of developments on that front- genuinely I mean, I don't know. Martin Berry 39 Posted 16/05/2013 at 17:33:33 Whelan keeps spouting bullshit about how Martinez will move to a big European Club or one of the Sky 4. Everton are not bigger enough. Is this just sour grapes or has there actually been no contact with Wigan. Why would a big club want him?Wouldn't be surprised if it was Stubbs with Neville as assistant. Matt Traynor 40 Posted 16/05/2013 at 17:39:55 Martin #532 the latest doing the rounds in the papers by that epic journalist "Phil Space" is with Pelligrini moving to City, Malaga will move for Martinez. Can't say I'll be too sorry to miss out on him, for reasons that have been done to death on other threads. Terry Maher 41 Posted 16/05/2013 at 17:35:46 I agree with Sharpy — don't leave it to late but get the right man in. It will be bad if Kenwright lets it drag on; we need someone to be ready for the pre-season and the next transfer and window. Man Utd didn't hang around... Declan Burke 42 Posted 16/05/2013 at 17:37:03 If Lennon gets the job, there will be an almighty piss up in Glasgow. My mate, who is a huge Celtic fan, says that the majority of Celtic fans would be delighted and relieved if Lennon left. After all, this is the manager who won effectively a one team league this season incurring 7 losses. The will also finish with 14/17 points less (1 game left) than last season, when Rangers were in the mix. My old Gran would have won this season’s league with that Celtic squad. The two games against Barcelona have coloured many people’s judgement. His disciplinary record is also appalling. In my humble opinion, Lennon is not fit or good enough to manage our great club. Colin Glassar 43 Posted 16/05/2013 at 18:24:24 Martin, whelan is senile I wouldn't bother too much with what he says. I also wouldn't be surprised if Martinez heads back to Spain and in a season or two a lot of his detractors on here are crying about if only........ Steven Telford 44 Posted 16/05/2013 at 18:19:06 Where exactly does Dave Whelan's valuation of Martinez come from, especially given him being less successful in the league than his predecessors.Can somebody please locate Grampa’s reading glasses so he can see the numbers.I’m sick of reading how this guy talks Everton down.Everton would be a huge step up for Martinez. Jay Doyle 45 Posted 16/05/2013 at 18:47:51 It's okay, Bill, take as long as you need... just hurry the fuck up! Anthony Flack 46 Posted 16/05/2013 at 18:50:25 Care over Bookies odds - a great way to generate revenue is to lower odds to drive in receipts as everyone piles in to get a share of the near certainty. it is just like Tesco's half price wine deals at the weekend, flies off the shelves, but tends to be older stuff they could not sell at half the price a few months earlier - increase the price to more than double, then half it. Ifor Hughes 47 Posted 16/05/2013 at 19:14:53 The Southampton manager does not sound too happy with goings on there... possibility?? Ross Edwards 48 Posted 16/05/2013 at 19:37:04 "No hurry" for Bill literally means 5 minutes before kick off next season, when he will collar a staggering Howie Kendall trying to sober himself before the match, and unvailing him for the 4th spell in charge. I want the appointment made early, then he can get settled and pick any transfer targets he wants. Brian Murray 49 Posted 16/05/2013 at 19:40:09 Can someone please tell me who the hell is Vibrac and what their association is with Everton? Kev Shearer 50 Posted 16/05/2013 at 19:42:42 For me, Big Dunc and King Kev Sheedy could be the way forward. Both are managing the youth team decently and both are legends at the club who know what the great EFC are all about... We wouldn't need to pay compensation, would both demand reasonable wages and would try and keep the club on an even keel. Okay... so their inexperienced to a degree, but so are Lennon and Martinez as they have only been managers for a short time. Worth a gamble in my opinion. Kevin Day 51 Posted 16/05/2013 at 20:07:03 3rd Ross Ross Edwards 53 Posted 16/05/2013 at 20:11:08 No, 4th Kevin. Gavin Ramejkis 54 Posted 16/05/2013 at 20:11:03 4th Kevin1981–1987 Everton1990–1993 Everton1997–1998 Everton Ben Jones 55 Posted 16/05/2013 at 20:25:10 Haha Nick, not sure it's naive.I could swing it the other way and say they're a bull much Drew Shortis 56 Posted 16/05/2013 at 20:16:03 I think it will be a massive mistake if we allow Martinez to slip through our fingers. Despite his admirable loyalty up to this point I really can't see him settling for Championship football next year with the likes of Everton and Malaga offering top flight football, a step up in finances (yes, even we have more dosh than Wigan!) and player quality. I have been reading a lot of posts from people concerned with Wigan's defensive record and the fact they have gone down and it is difficult to counter those arguments with anything but the injuries / lack of quality players excuses... I just have a really good feeling about Martinez and think he will do great things at Everton, a feeling I certainly don't get about McKay, Lennon or any of the coaching team. Sometimes in life you just have to follow your instincts. Hopefully BK is of the same opinion! Kevin Day 57 Posted 16/05/2013 at 20:40:28 I must of got abducted to mars during his 3rd spell as I don't remember that at all. So I stand corrected. Ian Smitham 58 Posted 16/05/2013 at 20:41:54 Anyone else seen that Gus Poyet has been suspended from Brighton due to all edged breach of contract? Phil Sammon 59 Posted 16/05/2013 at 20:41:57 What's all this about Poyet being suspended then? Breach of contract. Hmmm Jack Wilkinson 60 Posted 16/05/2013 at 20:44:28 Just seen that Ian, that after saying "every summer you sit down and analyse where you can go" as well? Ross Edwards 61 Posted 16/05/2013 at 20:52:51 Poyet has been suspended, I think because he was moaning about his budget for next year, and obviously the board didn't like that. Mark Frere 63 Posted 16/05/2013 at 20:48:29 Kevin Day 606Don't you remember when we had to beat Coventry last game of the season to be sure of PL survival? We were 1-0 up then Thomas Myhre made a dreadful goalkeeping error and the game ended 1-1, Chelsea did us a favour that day by beating Bolton and we stayed up on goal difference I think. That was HK third spell at Everton Ian Bennett 64 Posted 16/05/2013 at 21:00:52 7/4 for Stubbs, and 3/1 poyet as the current big fav. Martinez drifting out. Gavin Ramejkis 65 Posted 16/05/2013 at 20:59:39 Kevin his third spell was a shocker, we stayed up on the last day despite a 2-1 loss to Palace Gavin Ramejkis 66 Posted 16/05/2013 at 21:08:01 D'oh wrong way round Kevin we lost our opener to Palace, Mark is spot on Coventry game, Bolton went down and still hold it against us Paul Andrews 67 Posted 16/05/2013 at 21:03:56 Brian Murray 589,Vibrac are a company based in the British Virgin Islands. They are the company that have provided loans for Everton Football Club. At a high interest rate, apparently.I have read that reporters have said it is difficult to find out who the owners of Vibrac are. Apparently Vibrac's registered office in the BVI is the same as Robert Earl's registered office. Small world. Jack Cross 69 Posted 16/05/2013 at 21:19:11 Dave Jones and P Neville that's my choice. One knows the present situation like the back of his hand and the other as come up through the ranks with never a lot of funds. Jonesy as done very well Id say. He as a eye for a player also and likes going forward but aware of defence also. Not like Matineze 71 goals against and 1 match left, Patrick Murphy 70 Posted 16/05/2013 at 21:32:51 Going back to Kendall's last season if M'boro hadn't have been docked 3 points in the previous season (96/97) for failing to fulfill a fixture, Coventry would have got relegated and we wouldn't have played them the following season, fickle finger of fate and all that. Patrick Murphy 71 Posted 16/05/2013 at 21:36:46 BTW people on GOT are saying the best singer at tonight's end of season do, will get the job, Stubsy's odds are falling at the bookies. Mike Hughes 72 Posted 16/05/2013 at 22:58:39 Just read that Gus Poyet had been suspended by Brighton.Reading his comments, he's definitely angling for a move.Nothing against Uruguayans (cough, splutter) or anything but does anyone else think he comes across as a bit of a gobshite?http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/22563280 Brendan McLaughlin 73 Posted 16/05/2013 at 23:05:36 Martinez....just took Wigan down; Poyet....walked out on Brighton after failing to take them up. A "rock and a hard place" doesn't even come remotely close. Mike Hughes 74 Posted 16/05/2013 at 23:14:11 Brendan - VP is the man! Patrick Murphy 75 Posted 16/05/2013 at 23:13:56 Why would Brighton suspend some of his staff as well though, there may be more to this story than just a manager trying to escape his contract. Brendan McLaughlin 76 Posted 16/05/2013 at 23:17:17 Mike (VP for Slow Learners) Hughes #658I jumped on that bandwagon 5 posts back at least. Making badges at the moment.... Anthony Manning 77 Posted 16/05/2013 at 23:40:29 Wow, Sharp talking sense for once! Iain Johnston 78 Posted 16/05/2013 at 23:31:52 Kev 590, Sheeds was assistant at Tranmere Eric Myles 79 Posted 17/05/2013 at 01:57:33 Kenwright will delay as long as possible to save wages.Expect Round to be named as interim manager. Eric Myles 82 Posted 17/05/2013 at 06:03:53 Phil #453 "Sharpy's only valid point seems to be that we need to appoint a new manager."You must have missed this then"For me, investment is what is needed to push it on any further." Eric Myles 83 Posted 17/05/2013 at 06:19:55 Brian #589, they're a company in the dodgy Virgin Islands that Everton owe a lot of money to.Some on this website suspect that they may in some way associated with one of our board members as he has his office in the same building. Ray Roche 84 Posted 17/05/2013 at 09:06:32 Eric, why would we need an interim manager in the close season? Sam Bull 85 Posted 17/05/2013 at 12:31:56 I do not want Lennon or Martinez, nothing personalSouthampton Manager!! I wouldn't say no.But my preference would be a Stubbs - Big Dunk - Weir Combo. William Irwin 86 Posted 17/05/2013 at 19:55:07 If we are to move forward then we must put 100% into getting Vitor Pereira; he speaks fluent English, has a title-winning pedigree, he is a top-class coach with a non-negative approach, but then again, I'm a dreamer... We'll probably end up with a non-proven cheapskate of a manager — I just hope it's not Lennon. Eric Myles 89 Posted 18/05/2013 at 04:03:04 Ray, pre-season training and tour? Harold Matthews 90 Posted 18/05/2013 at 05:58:21 No L plate guys like Stubbs and Dunc please. It took Moyes about 8 years to see the light and reach for the very high levels needed in this modern Premier League. We require someone with standards already set at a top 6 level who will hit the ground running and take us on to better things. 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