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Phil Walling
1 Posted 29/12/2013 at 19:22:59
Just think, a win at Stoke and we'll be safe by New Year's Day!
Gerry Quinn
3 Posted 29/12/2013 at 19:41:21
Well, well, well, here's something interesting to take in...

Everton have won ALL 7 of the games in which Martinez has made two or more changes to his lineup.

Unchanged, the Toffees have won just once in 6 games this season.

Bit of a whizz-kid with the rotations then is our Roberto they've worked every time.

Ben Mackenzie
4 Posted 29/12/2013 at 22:36:45
Strangely enough, that wayward pass aside, I thought McCarthy had a good game. 2nd only to Seamus for the MotM.

I'm starting to believe Roberto is a genius.

Mike Gaynes
5 Posted 30/12/2013 at 00:33:22
In addition to the gamewinner, credit Lukaku for the best reaction shot of the season.... grabbing his head in disbelief as Coleman's goal ripped into the top corner. Priceless.
Chris Jones [Burton]
6 Posted 30/12/2013 at 00:41:53
Yeah, like me Romelu no doubt was thinking "Oh no, another greedy fucker who shoots instead of passing to me" ;)
Kevin Tully
7 Posted 30/12/2013 at 00:36:04
The big news today is that Martinez has stated the Baines will '100%' not be leaving in January. That clears that up then.

Oviedo looks very comfortable playing in midfield to me, a definite plus there. When you think about it, our squad is not as bare as some make out.

We started without 7 first team players today!

Howard, Jagielka, Barry, Gibson, Mirallas, Pienaar and Deulofeu.

Two more decent signings will see us nicely through the second half of the season. That's two losses from the first half of the season.... I believe.

Jackie Barry
8 Posted 30/12/2013 at 01:12:21
Strange, I thought McCarthy had a very good game in all honesty.
Si Cooper
9 Posted 30/12/2013 at 00:53:39
"When you think about it, our squad is not as bare as some make out."

Depends what you compare it with. Compared to the size of squad and strength in depth of the teams that tend to finish in the top four it is still 'weak'.

That doesn't mean we don't have quality players or can't compete with pretty much anyone on our day, but it does mean that three of our most valuable contributors this season don't belong to us, we are partially reliant on experienced pros being able to perform consistently well into their 'twilight years', we have several squad members who have worrying injury histories, and unless we strengthen in January we will need a tremendous amount of luck with injuries for the second half of the season (which will be the most grueling) to stay in contention.

Alongside their supposed frugality, kopites will also tell you their squad is now as small as ours. Well, there are plenty of their players I wouldn't look twice at but I wouldn't mind seeing what I could do with the money they have cost in transfer fees and wages, and they are able to loan out the likes of Assaidi and Borini to other Premier League clubs. When we can do that then I will accept that we at least have achieved parity with the sort of team we are looking to out-compete.

Kevin Tully
10 Posted 30/12/2013 at 01:31:46
Si, don't get the thought process of some that loanees are not somehow part of the squad?

Every player is for sale with our ownership, so every player could be playing elsewhere next season. Add two decent first team players and we have enough depth.

Martinez isn't looking for excuses why we can't compete, so it's bizarre that some of the support are intent on finding reasons why we will fail.

Si Cooper
11 Posted 30/12/2013 at 01:48:00
I am sure Martinez is not being complacent either, Kevin, and whilst he will be well aware of our financial issues I would bet that he is already planning for the short, medium and long term.

Part of being a squad goes beyond the here and now, and I would hope people at the club are looking at things long-term and with an eye on continuity. We are not going to sell a large group of our current players any time soon, but we could lose a significant proportion of them before next season (or during the second half of this one) for a number of different reasons. Call it preparing, as best you can, for worst case scenarios.

If the manager is looking for further progress next season, he will not wait until the summer transfer window to start integrating potential replacements in the event that we don't get to keep hold of Lukaku and Deulofeu, and really they need to be of the same quality which we probably can't conjure from our ranks of injured or the U21s.

Useful as these players are we are essentially developing them for someone else's benefit not our own, and their presence is masking the deficiencies in our squad that would ideally be filled with players we can decide the fate of.

I am not saying we shouldn't use the loan system as much as we can, just that it is not the ideal solution and potentially a large gamble if we come to rely on just the right players being available year on year to make up our squad numbers.

Mike Gaynes
12 Posted 30/12/2013 at 03:06:59
Si and Kevin, Roberto has an interesting decision to make immediately along those very lines.

We all thought Heitinga's departure was a foregone conclusion. But now, with Jags out for a month, our CBs are a newcomer with a history of injury and a 36-year-old who has played every minute this season.

And their only cover is a brilliant teenager who has never yet played CB for the first team.

So does Roberto keep Heitinga through the January window? Or let him go and bring in another loaner? Or go with what he's got now?

Interesting decision.

David Ellis
13 Posted 30/12/2013 at 09:17:36
Mike, interesting question but I think we can still let Heitinga go. He is vastly overpaid for a 4th choice CB, so financially it is worth the risk in selling him now. Jags injury appears not too serious and I don't think Martinez would think twice before playing Stones if another CB was injured. I think he'll go and a defensive midfielder brought in.
Paul Ferry
14 Posted 30/12/2013 at 09:47:42
Gaynes - 56 - of course Heitinga will go in the next window, a win-win for both sides, getting him off the payroll and his nice seat where he watches the match from and he, needless to say is keen to get away. £2 million will be good business.
Mark Griffiths
15 Posted 30/12/2013 at 09:56:25
Just read McNulty's predictions for the PL in 2014, no mention of us regarding winning the league (tbh - I don't think we will) or top 4 instead creaming over Arsenal, Tottenham, Man City, Chelsea, RS and Manure! Bollocks to the lot of them!
Nick Entwistle
16 Posted 30/12/2013 at 09:58:20
What I'm liking about the team's play is that its very machine like. They keep playing keep playing keep playing. Nothing phases them.

Coleman's goal was world class, and the right flank are now ahead of the left and didn't know we were above Liverpool until MotD2. That put a smile on my face. That and Suarez rolling around and getting nothing.

Shame about Robles's mistake, he looks like a decent 'keeper.

Simon Smith
17 Posted 30/12/2013 at 10:13:38
Paul Ferry, so glad your curse didn’t strike twice and you were able to watch at least one home win while you are over from the States... No chance of you staying a few extra days and going to the cup game v QPR is there? As I got a ticket for it. Sorry I couldn’t make the two games over Christmas to say hi!
Rahman Talib
18 Posted 30/12/2013 at 11:42:24
I say sell Heitinga. Jelavic, Duffy, Osman, Hibbert and get a kick-ass centre-forward.

And bring Garbutt back!

Paul Tran
19 Posted 30/12/2013 at 13:42:54
Nick, your machine analogy is spot-on. He's built a team with a spine, which sticks regardless of who is playing. I'm biased, but I get the impression when he buys players, he knows what he wants from them and the players really know what they're meant to be doing.

That's where all this confidence comes from. Next time anyone gets annoyed at Martinez's positivity, remember that he's built a system that he and the players believe in. He's also encouraging players who can break out of the system and do the extraordinary, like Seamus, Ross and Del.

We won yesterday because we had better quality in both boxes. Other than his moistake I liked Robles. I'd like to see at least one more forward to give us more up front, especially if Lukaku and Del leave in the summer.

Mike Hughes
20 Posted 30/12/2013 at 13:56:55
Si #041

"When you think about it, our squad is not as bare as some make out."
Depends what you compare it with.

Well, across the park, Brenda's been moaning to the press about lack of squad size.
Apparently they've no strength in depth compared to the big boys in the top 4 and will have to get the cheque book out (unusually!) in January apparently.

All together ..... aaaagh.

Paul Tran
21 Posted 30/12/2013 at 14:10:33
I meant to add that one team that's stuck in my memory was the German team in Euro 96. I was at Wembley when they beat England against the odds (and with a lot of luck!!).

I remember afterwards Klinsmann said that the players had such a belief in themselves and their system that they knew they were going to win.

Well the buggers did and I'm getting the same feel from this team.

Here's hoping.......

Si Cooper
22 Posted 30/12/2013 at 15:51:51
Mike Hughes (#151), as I intimated in my final paragraph, you haven't really got a lot to moan about (except your own poor judgement) if you complain about squad paucity whilst having senior pros on loan at other Premier League sides.

Like you, my heart bleeds for the poor hard-done-by muppets.

Harold Matthews
23 Posted 30/12/2013 at 18:10:03
Their goal looked to be a straight forward powerful shot but from our keepers viewpoint it was probably much more than that. These balls do very strange things and some of them even appear to accelerate. Just like one particular Arteta free kick at Goodison which seemed to deflect off an invisible object before accelerating passed the shocked goalie.

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