McCarthy misses Krasnodar trip

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Coleman, Distin and Pienaar also remain behind
James McCarthy won't be making the long trip to Krasnodar today and has remained behind on Merseyside.

The Irish international reported a tight quad muscle after Saturday's Anfield derby and is being rested along with Seamus Coleman, Sylvain Distin and Steven Pienaar, who are all carrying injuries. McCarthy is also an early doubt for the match at Manchester United this Sunday.

Roberto Martinez revealed in his pre-match press conference from Krasnodar's Kuban Stadium that Coleman has been suffering from a recurrence of his pre-season hamstring issues in addition to the concussion he suffered against Wolfsburg two weeks ago. He has a chance of being fit for the visit to Old Trafford, though.

Young Ryan Ledson was on the plane for Russia, though, alongside his fellow Academy graduates, Luke Garbutt and Tyias Browning.

Another absentee, however, appears to Arouna Kone who was believed to be ready for action after his long lay-off following knee surgery but he has yet to figure for the first team despite being named among the substitutes for the League Cup tie at Swansea last week.

There are unconfirmed media reports, meanwhile, that Everton fear that Kevin Mirallas could be out for two months with the hamstring tear he suffered on Saturday. The player underwent further tests on the injury today.

 

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Gavin Johnson
1 Posted 01/10/2014 at 11:14:57
I see McCarthy is carrying an injury now (hamstring likely). I’ve never known a club where the players always seem to get this injury. Makes you wonder why?
Chris Wilson
2 Posted 01/10/2014 at 15:48:10
Ugh. Didn’t think the injuries would start mounting until February/March. Starting to get a little thin in DM and wing again.
Nick Entwistle
3 Posted 01/10/2014 at 15:55:47
We could just about make up an unfit XI that is better than what we’re going to put out. Crisis? What crisis...

XXX
Coleman Alcaraz xxx Oviedo
Gibson McCarthy
Mirallas Barkley Pienaar
Kone

Jack Plant
4 Posted 01/10/2014 at 16:06:14
I’d love to see Ledson get a game, hope Browning starts too!
Tim Greeley
5 Posted 01/10/2014 at 16:03:00
I’ve got ONE TICKET TO KRASNODAR, won’t you pack your bags we leave tonite! Yeah right, be a one-way ticket. Good luck, sweet princes.

Can you believe this FC Planet Krasnodar didn’t even exist 7 years ago and are now in Europa League!?!? NOTHING FISHY about that happening in a place like Russia....

Anyway, here is my team:
Robles
Browning Jags Alcaraz Baines
Gibson Barry
Osman
Atsu Kone/McGeady
Eto’o

Mike Benjamin
6 Posted 01/10/2014 at 16:59:21
McCarthy is no surprise. He’s played every minute of every game (bar Swansea). A mule is worked less. Barry will be nexted to suffer an injury. If pre-season was as easy as has been suggested, then this may also be a factor.
Ajay Gopal
7 Posted 01/10/2014 at 18:04:18
Good one, Tim, but pretty sure Howard will be the goal-keeper. Looking at the mounting injuries, I think RM will be pragmatic and go for the draw:

Howard
Stones Jagielka Alcaraz Baines
Besic Barry
Atsu Osman McGeady
Eto'o

Subs: Robles, Browning, Oviedo, Naismith, Lukaku, Kone, Gibson.

Alan McGuffog
8 Posted 01/10/2014 at 18:13:56
Let’s just get the next 32 games out of the way, aim for 40 points and write off this bloody season.
Tony Abrahams
9 Posted 01/10/2014 at 17:57:35
I heard his hamstring was tight at Anfield, but he played on for the last 30 mins to help the team. I always felt that Coleman had another problem, because he limped off the pitch two weeks ago, but I couldn’t remember him holding his head.

Now, Mirallas as well, it must be all the ball work that they must now be doing in training, unless he was still working harder than most because he missed a lot of pre-season.

Anyway, we now face an awkward trip into the unknown, to play a game 65 hours before we start at Old Trafford on Sunday. I can’t predict the scores, but I hope that things will start to get a little easier after this intense period. But if we want to move forward as a team, these are the things we are going to have to get used to.

I wasn’t happy going out the League Cup to Swansea, but I’m glad we don’t have to go to Anfield to play another cup game now. Maybe we can leave that till later in the season when we will hopefully be in much better shape?

Rob Halligan
10 Posted 01/10/2014 at 18:34:50
Probably ran out of money to buy their visa. I was booked on the club day trip and was paying £180 for a visa, until the trip got cancelled.

I wonder how much Bill has splashed out for visas?

Kunal Desai
12 Posted 01/10/2014 at 18:53:39
Beat Krasnodar and Lille at Home (with a near enough first eleven side) and it's job done and 9 points should be good enough for the next stages of the competition. Picking up anything away from home would be a bonus but i'd prefer Martinez stick a second string side including youngsters for these matches and reserve the first eleven for the following league game.
Mo Guindi
13 Posted 01/10/2014 at 19:00:10
Ou est Krasnodar ? Not near the frontline is it? Owned by a mini Abramovic I suppose? Whatever – let's slaughter them!!
Mo Guindi
14 Posted 01/10/2014 at 19:06:22
And just to be completely off the subject – things I despise in life:

The colour red
Kopites
Frankenstein football creations (aka Chelski Citeh PSG)
Top of the table fans (of which I was one in the Alan Ball days! Somehow stuck!!!!)

Nicky Styles
15 Posted 01/10/2014 at 19:18:15
Hopefully we can just tank them in the first half, give the kids a run out in the second. But that’s wishful thinking under this manager and our backroom staff’s apparent inability to protect our players from injury.

So many injuries, many in the same area. Surely it’s not a mere coincidence. When you then look at Atletico Madrid’s 15-man side which, more or less, went an entire season sans injury while fighting on so many fronts, it does make you think... Not to mention the premier league sides who, on par, seem to have far better luck with long-term casualties.

Harold Matthews
16 Posted 01/10/2014 at 19:16:49
This will be a really tough match. Reports say they have several very smart players. Luckily it's in the southern part of Russia so the weather will probably be okay.

Mo. Try lying down for 30 minutes in a darkened room.

Andy Meighan
17 Posted 01/10/2014 at 19:39:24
What little highlights ITV4 showed against Lille away these looked a decent side. We’ll do well to get a draw there; with the injuries we’ve got, I’d be more than happy with that.
Jim Bennings
18 Posted 01/10/2014 at 20:16:10
I hope people can really see now why so many of us fans were desperate for Everton to sign enough players to strengthen the squad during last summer. Teams get so many injuries, before long we could be down to the bare bones.

I didn't really see McCarthy playing tomorrow night anyway. It may as well just be Besic, Gibson, Atsu, Osman or McGeady with Naismith behind Eto'o. I would say we could start Lukaku; I really think that fella needs to start producing the goods. I keep hearing about his lack of fitness from Martinez; question is: Why?

Well perhaps he should play games Lukaku then.

I'm starting to think me brother might have been right about us going after Welbeck as a cheaper option. I've got to admit that he is looking the business at Arsenal; he seems to be free of the shackles that held him down at Man Utd.

Jim Bennings
19 Posted 01/10/2014 at 20:30:51
Is Distin injured, does anyone know?

I would have thought tomorrow would have suited Distin, slightly slower pace than the Premier League's frantic nature. It seems the big man is slowly being fazed out now. I will feel a bit sad when he does go but understand he can't go on forever. This season more so he has started showing signs of father time finally starting to catch up.

I'd be giving Browning the right-back start with Oviedo or Garbutt holding left back, Alcaraz partnering Stones, as they did quite well back in January with each other, I think it was away at Stoke???

Also, how come Arouna Kone still has not travelled?? Just what the hell has happened to that guy? You're talking about 12 months out now with a knee injury ,right?

Wayne Smyth
20 Posted 01/10/2014 at 20:30:21
Jim, Welbeck will be 24 in a few weeks, and while he is a decent player, I think Lukaku will be far better than him in a few years. People give Lukaku a lot of shit, but he's 21 and been playing with a toe injury and god knows if he was also one of the players who has been suffering from the virus which Martinez alluded to recently.

As fans it's easy to see "shit" performances, but we've only half a clue as to why that might be. Aside from injuries that players get asked to play with, we also saw at Mordor Lukaku playing on the wing. You think he's going to turn in a top drawer performance playing out of position?

That aside, even though his performances have not been brilliant, he's still had a hand in a lot of our good play, creating chances directly and indirectly and also scoring a few goals.

Centre mid is not really a problem for us. We've got 4 quality players for 2 positions, then as backup we have Osman and Ledson who I think deserves a chance. We've seen Browning and Garbutt both step up from our academy and fit in perfectly, and Ledson is probably also of similar ability.

A club like ours can't afford to buy too many more quality players than we have; certainly not somewhere like centre mid where we are already strong. So, I'm glad we're making use of our youngsters. It's the only way we can compete with richer clubs without going bankrupt.

Kieran Riding
21 Posted 01/10/2014 at 20:44:05
Jim, Distin isn't injured.

Mike Oates
22 Posted 01/10/2014 at 20:42:13
Just read Martinez's Press Conference and maybe no McCarthy or Coleman for the Man Utd game as well on Sunday , "Coleman has a soft tissue injury but the International break should see both okay."

Just what the hell is going on with time out for injuries? Kone, Pienaar, Coleman, etc etc, we always seem to be about 4-6 key players short and Martinez just keeps giving positive vibes.

Ian McDowell
23 Posted 01/10/2014 at 21:08:56
I think between now and Xmas given injuries and I can see us being inconsistent. Just like Roberto's Wigan, I can see us picking up in the New Year and finishing the season in strong fashion. May be too late for top 4/5 by then but I would take a trophy ahead of 6th place.
Wayne Smyth
24 Posted 01/10/2014 at 21:08:02
Mike, what do you expect Martinez to do? Come out and say we're fucked? I don't care who is injured, I want any manager of Everton to put out a side who believes they can beat the opposition; even if we have to use 3 or 4 academy players to make up the numbers.

The manager is responsible for setting the tone and providing leadership. You need those people to be strong and give confidence to the 11 that have to play, not make them believe they can't win or compete just because of a few injuries.

Man Utd also have lots of first-team players missing; more than us I think, so any idea that we're the only club to have important players out is mistaken.

Dave Pritchard
25 Posted 01/10/2014 at 21:17:49
I agree, Wayne. It only seems that we have more out than others because we care about Everton and don't pay as much attention to other teams.

Sturridge is out until after the internationals. How crap do they look tonight? Man Utd have a long list out as well as a nice 3-match suspension and Welbeck has a hat-trick tonight. It is made worse for us in that, in Coleman, Mirallas and Barkley we have such creative players out. Kone having sat on the bench just the once and not even travelling to Russia is also worrying.

Ian McDowell
26 Posted 01/10/2014 at 21:36:40
Think this game gives us the opportunity to give some game time to Atsu, Gibson, Garbutt, Alcaraz and maybe a few others. Looking at what we need to qualify roughly more 10 points+ so if we can win our home games and pick up 1 away win or a few draws that should be good enough to get us through. This won't be easy but with another game Sun at 12 rotation of the squad will surely be necessary. COYB
Kieran Riding
27 Posted 01/10/2014 at 21:46:37
If were getting battered at least we can turn over and watch The Chase on ITV1 with such a kick-off time?
Derek Williams
28 Posted 01/10/2014 at 21:45:42
Off topic, but the ever so slightly biased ex Kopshite Danny Murphy co-commentating on Talksport ... "Well that's bad, that defender has tried to wind up Balotelli there to provoke a reaction and get him sent off. We saw Seamus Coleman doing exactly the same thing in Saturday's derby".

You thick Kopshite goof, I don't think so, he was sat in the stand.

Gerard Carey
29 Posted 01/10/2014 at 21:53:35
Bet Hibbert gets a game.
Jim Bennings
30 Posted 01/10/2014 at 22:08:27
I don't really want to be too hard on Lukaku – hell, I was one of the guys biggest fans throughout last season and I was chuffed we signed him, even though I was a little dismayed at the price.

But there's no getting away from the fact that, toe injury or not., fitness issues or not, sooner or later we need better from him.

Yes, he is 21, but for me his touch is pretty awful and he seems to drift through too many matches just not looking interested, whereas Welbeck looks alive and always on the move.

I keep looking at Lukaku and thinking "Come on, Rom – use that power and pace to bully players" but, even at Anfield, too often he's knocked aside by a weaker looking man.

I want him to succeed madly – that's probably why I'm expecting more from him.

I will be patient, as we all will be, but he cost big money and another month of lethargic-looking performances and no real goal sprees and you know how quick fans become restless and impatient.

The time to start delivering is now.

Keith Glazzard
31 Posted 01/10/2014 at 22:21:26
Derek - I watched the second half. Balotelli spent so much time laid out on the ground, and even tried the Saurez roll a couple of times, I wondered if there was a manual in the famous boot room.
John Botham
32 Posted 01/10/2014 at 22:16:26
Keiran, I'm a 'Pointless' man myself but I'll be watching the Blues regardless of the performance. I'm a little worried though – we were woeful against Swansea and that might be close to our line up tomorrow. At least Besic has had more game time so here's hoping.
Christopher Kelly
33 Posted 01/10/2014 at 23:01:25
A report came out today stating Arsenal has had 966 injuries in the past 12 years I believe. WAAAAY ahead of anyone else. It appears we’re always injured because we care more about Everton.
Aman Kanji
34 Posted 01/10/2014 at 22:59:17
As long as Besic doesn’t try and back-heel the ball to Jags 20 yards from our goal, we’ll be okay...
Tom Bowers
35 Posted 01/10/2014 at 23:07:16
This is where the squad depth is put to the test again but, unlike the Swansea game, which in all honesty was a game that had no real prestige, the upcoming Europa League game is more important.

I expect Gibson to come in for McCarthy and I hope RM gives a start to Browning.

I’m agreeing with Kieth Glazzard about Balotelli’s great impersonation of a former Red, Emile Heskey. I have to admit Balotelli had a good game but he hits the deck far too often looking for a foul and should have been booked.

I see the Shite got away with another sure fire penalty against Basel today.

John Voigt
36 Posted 01/10/2014 at 23:19:12
This away game in Russia won't be easy. I read the article on the Russian team that was in the Guardian today.

This weekend's game is more important.

I'd like to see Jags saved for the weekend game. His partnership with Stones is looking promising.

I wouldn't mind Browning getting a start.

I've been a big backer of Lukaku. There's been lots of rumblings about playing the "kids" and giving them a chance and Lukaku is only 21. He is learning and getting better. I thought he did well on diagonal balls played out wide to him in the Liverpool. The down side is he was miles away from the 18 yard box playing the role he was asked to play.

I want to see him score more, but game plans where he's a wide right winger reduce his opportunities to score. 2 goals and an assist isn't great, but it isn't terrible through 6 Premier League games. There needs to be a better plan where he's positioned closer to the 18 yard box.

I hope he and Eto'o share time in Russia and with the injury situation the way it is I'd like to see a weekend lineup with both Eto'o and Lukaku starting.

Everton need to get through the next couple of games without further injury issues and hopefully more players will be available after the upcoming international break.

I'm a Yank and live in North Carolina. I really think Tim Howard not playing for the US team is a plus for Everton this season. Even if he wants to be the USA #1 after year he'll have trouble regaining his spot if Brad Guzan of Aston Villa keeps getting better (and I've thought that Guzan is better than Tim for the last year or so).

Dennis Ng
37 Posted 02/10/2014 at 00:01:04
Love to see Browning get a game as well. Looks like a Besic and Barry pairing this time round. As much as I feel the weekend game being more important, giving the other lads a game and getting a good result is equally important building into the weekend. COYB
Harold Matthews
38 Posted 02/10/2014 at 00:28:52
No room for faint hearts.
Sam Hoare
39 Posted 02/10/2014 at 00:52:30
Jim, 30. I was another advocate of getting Welbeck as a cheaper alternative to Lukaku. People on here said he didn't score enough goals but now he's getting regular games he's proving them wrong so far.

Lukaku is younger and hopefully will outstrip Welbeck in years to come but at the moment the English man looks quicker, more creative and surprisingly more dangerous in front of goal. And for £10M less. £10M that may have bought us an attacking playmaker or rapid centre back to replace Sylvain.

Hopefully Lukaku will prove a wise investment in time but I do have fears over whether the potential will become realised or not. As has been said before, it's hard to coach a good first touch.

Christopher Kelly
40 Posted 02/10/2014 at 01:10:07
First off, we only spent £5m on Lukaku this year with payments coming over the next 5 years (allegedly)... It was meant for us to stop whinging about the TV money not being spent. I doubt we’d have spent the additional £10M on a number 10 if there actually was 10 to spend.

In other news... and I can not for the life of me believe this; Kone is not making the trip to Russia. I know people who come back from re-attached legs faster than this. How in the world is this possible??

If there was one game ALL season that we needed him it’s this one. What a waste of epic proportions by Martinez. It is just beyond comical. All those wasted wages as well. He should give some back.

Andy Crooks
41 Posted 02/10/2014 at 01:03:17
Sam, I asked the question on a different thread. Can a first touch be coached? Is it not a mental thing? I think it might be because as a low-level player my own first touch was, well, in my own opinion top notch. After that it was bad, really bad.

Well, my point is that I think it is down to confidence. A player full of confidence will have a good first touch because he knows there will be options to lay it off. At present, those options are too often missing.

Sam Hoare
42 Posted 02/10/2014 at 01:35:57
Andy, no doubt you are right to a degree. I think all qualities will probably increase with added confidence. However, there are parameters to that upturn. I suspect Romelu could have sky high confidence and train all day on his touch but would never possess the silk of Aguero or dare I say Suarez. I think touch is a more innate gift than most.
John Voigt
43 Posted 02/10/2014 at 02:10:35
Touch is part natural ability, practice, and confidence. It is an issue with Lukaku.

Comparing Wellbeck to Lukaku is interesting. Lukaku is more physical. Wellbeck at this point in time has better 1st touch.

I'd much rather have Lukaku because to me his ceiling is much much, much higher.

Lukaku is more the natural goal scorer than Wellbeck. There are games where chances will fall to Wellbeck and he's hailed, but in the long run Lukaku has much more potential (my opinion).

I don't think Wellbeck will ever be a 20 goal a season scorer, but I do see Lukaku reaching that level.

It's the problem Everton face as a team of modest means. Yes, it would be nice to have more polished gems in the squad, but they cost a bloody fortune which Everton don't have.

Chris Wilson
44 Posted 02/10/2014 at 02:35:14
How long will it take before the press manufacture the "Seamus Coleman and/or James McCarthy aren't really hurt, they just don't want to jeopardize a potential transfer to their beloved Manchester United by playing in a team that potentially beats them" rumor? Probably midnight Friday?
Jack Cross
45 Posted 02/10/2014 at 03:33:21
Jim Bennings. That Welbeck is superb. I love watching a forward with that kind of enthusiasm and pace. I think your brother was probably right Jim. I think you know my feelings on Lukaku. I’m pissed off to the back teeth, hearing that Lukaku is only 21.

And when I see him on TV giving interviews about who he wants to aspire to, I feel like saying just do it on the pitch you wanker.

I know you believe in going in to lower leagues for players Jim, like myself. I would have gone after that striker Assomalonga (maybe spelt wrong) Notts Forest . I think we could have made him in to something special.

Jack Cross
46 Posted 02/10/2014 at 04:11:55
Chris Wilson. Any idea what’s wrong with Coleman? I thought it was a precautionary head injury at the time but I’m at a loss now.
Christopher Kelly
47 Posted 02/10/2014 at 04:32:28
Jack, it’s another of the dreaded hamstrings. He’s done his and now has been out three weeks looking to get back this weekend hopefully.

Jim Bennings
48 Posted 02/10/2014 at 07:32:31
I kind of agree regarding Lukaku Jack.

The major concern for me is people said when Anichebe was young and 21 and his touch was nothing short of woeful "oh Vic's only young he will get better" but for me you hahave either got it at that age or you haven't.

Rooney had it and I will bet the likes of Suarez and Messi could do the basics of controlling a ball at 21, after all 21 is hardly a wet behind the ears 17 year old.

Steve Jenkins
49 Posted 02/10/2014 at 07:44:21
I think Eto’o will start and come off around 60/65 mins so that he can come on as sub against Man Utd. Lukaku will come on as sub in this game and start and come off (possibly) against Man Utd.

Like others, I’d like to see Browing and Garbutt get a start but certainly some game time. It’s been great seeing these youngsters break through and they’re going to start to add some needed depth to the squad. Result permitting, I’d love to see Ledson get 5/10 minutes this evening to mark his steady breakthrough into the squad.

Anthony Lewis
51 Posted 02/10/2014 at 12:10:08
All this rubbish... "First touch can't be taught". Of course it fucking can.

I had a terrible first touch and improved it through determination to the point that it wasn't terrible anymore, just OK. I then got told by an ex-pro that, if I let him coach me, he would improve my first touch to a top class level in a matter of months.

If a shit footballer like myself can improve my first touch just by practising it a couple of times a week, then a pro-footballer can easily improve their touch as they do it every day.

I completely agree that Lukaku's touch is woeful at times, but compared to last season it's improved ten-fold. Clearly the staff and Lukaku himself recognise that this is something he needs to work on.

The problem with Lukaku is that he's only played one way before. His sheer strength and pace have led him to be a player a that thrives on the through-ball. Kick it in front of him and watch him go.

But unfortunately, to be a complete forward, playing only in this rather direct way will not cut it at a top team. Top teams require their players to have more than one string to their bow.

Teams like Chelski and Citeeh can afford to buy "complete" players. Teams like Everton, need these players, to break the glass ceiling, but can only usually afford to buy players with the "potential" to become "complete" players.

I realise that this is probably a contradiction, us having spent £28 million on potential. But the club must believe that Rom has the ability to fulfill that potential that quite quickly. And, imo, judging by the rate his touch has improved, they could be right.

Will Firstbrook
52 Posted 02/10/2014 at 21:07:37
January it is then for Mirallas, Gutted.

At this rate, we'll be diving hard into the January market for reinforcements.

Jack Cross
53 Posted 02/10/2014 at 21:07:38
Jim Bennings. People who seem to think Lukaku’s touch will come eventually don’t seem to realise that this is his 3rd season in the Premier League. But I can’t see much of an improvement touch-wise, myself.

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