Who could replace Roberto Martinez at Everton?

With a second successive season of failure about to be consigned to the history books, Roberto Martinez’s future at Everton is squarely under the microscope. A look at some potential candidates whom the club could look at if he is dismissed in the coming weeks.

Lyndon Lloyd 25/04/2016 268comments  |  Jump to last

With a second successive season of failure about to be consigned to the history books, Roberto Martinez’s future at Everton is squarely under the microscope with all the anecdotal evidence and that provided by online polls and the mood on fan websites and social media suggesting that the majority of Evertonians feel his time is up.

Such is the Catalan’s faith in his own ability and philosophy, he no doubt remains convinced that he can eventually turn things around and is, therefore, unlikely to fall on his sword. That will put the onus on Chairman Bill Kenwright, the Board of Directors and, most likely, new shareholder Farhad Moshiri to analyse the situation and make a decision on how the club should proceed.

If, as seems only logical at this stage, they opt to dismiss Martinez, either in the short-term or at the end of the season, the question of who replaces him becomes one of vital importance. With that in mind, it’s almost certain that a shortlist already exists in someone’s mind, but who could conceivably be on it and what is the likelihood the Blues could get their top choice?

Moshiri’s promised investment could be game-changing for Everton in terms of the calibre of manager they could entice to Goodison Park and the financial resources they could put behind him. Whereas the club has had to promote from within, import candidates from Scotland, or take a chance on an up-and-coming manager from a smaller club, this could be the first time in a long time that the Blues could have a realistic shot at bringing in a proven winner.

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ToffeeWeb takes a look at some of the potential candidates.

"The Moon Shots"

Diego Simeone
Neck and neck with Barcelona in La Liga, through to the semi-finals of the Champions League and guaranteed to be on the European gravy train next season, there is no earthly reason why the Argentine would jump the Rojiblanco ship for Goodison Park. Not unless he genuinely likes a challenge and there are precious few among the game’s top managers who would willingly take a step down to prove something. And you’ve got to think that if he harboured any desire to come to the Premier League any time soon, Chelsea would have nabbed him ahead of Antonio Conte.

Nevertheless, Simeone’s unmistakable passion, inspirational take-no-crap persona and attention to defensive solidity, all combined with Latin American roots and Continental experience, would make him an ideal candidate for Everton, much like his former international team-mate Mauricio Pochettino is proving to be for Tottenham. We can but dream…

Jose Mourinho
By no means everyone’s cup of tea, there are plenty of Evertonians who were so turned off by his arrogance in front of the media and his role in the Eva Carneiro controversy that they wouldn’t want him anywhere near Goodison Park. Then there’s the fact that, just as seems to be happening to Roberto Martinez, the Portuguese was sacked by Chelsea after a very obvious falling out with his players — the quintessential loss of the dressing room — not to mention his “third season” handicap.

Mourinho is a proven winner, though, has shown himself to be a master tactician at times — as Liverpool FC know all too well — and any association with Everton would markedly improve the club’s stature in the eyes of the world’s media. You can’t escape the feeling, however, that it would be short, controversial and not not conducive to long-term stability.

Thomas Tuchel
In the process of building something special at Borussia Dortmund, Tuchel was put forward by a few Everton fans familiar with the Bundesliga as a potential successor to David Moyes when he was still at Mainz. Anyone who watched his team dismantle Tottenham so effectively in the Europa League will have seen how well he has moved BVB on from Jürgen Klopp’s work and the feeling there is they have found the man to “build a dynasty” at the Westfalenstadion.

An exponent of playing football the right way who is on course for the Champions League with Die Schwarzgelben there’s little prospect he could be tempted to Everton. Besides, he already has one Anfield collapse on his CV; hardly the best qualification for a Toffees boss!

"The Attainables"

Frank de Boer
The younger of the Dutch twins crops up in connection with most Premier League vacancies these days and was talked about as a candidate to take over at the likes of Newcastle United, Liverpool and Tottenham Hotspur in recent years. In terms of footballing pedigree, they don’t come much better. Capped 112 times by the Netherlands, he spent a decade as a player at Ajax Amsterdam before moving on to Barcelona where he also played with his brother, Ronald, making close to 150 appearances.

As a manager, De Boer is regarded as one of the best European coaches yet to be tested at the top level. He was assistant manager under Phillip Cocu at the 2010 World Cup but it is back at Ajax where he has been cutting his managerial teeth winning four successive Eredivisie titles, a first for the Dutch league, and is two games away from winning a fifth championship in six years if he can stave off the challenge of last season’s winners PSV Eindhoven.

He turned down the Anfield gig three years ago but could now be ready to make the leap to the Premier League but the doubters will cite the weakness of the Eredivisie as the biggest knock against De Boer: even Steve McLaren won the title there! Nevertheless, his success has come about as a result of overcoming the need to rely heavily on youth at Ajax due to the club's lack of financial clout.

Ronald Koeman
The Dutch have a fine reputation when it comes to managers and Koeman, another footballing brother from Holland who played for Barca, is forging an impressive career as a manager, following up five stints in the Eredevisie with Vitesse, Ajax, AZ Alkmaar, PSV and Feyenoord with a move to Southampton to succeed Pochettino at St Mary’s Stadium.

Although he arrived at Southampton on the back of another exodus of talent, most of it to Liverpool again, Koeman bought wisely, picking up game-changing players like Dusan Tadic for modest fees and steered the south coast club to the Europa League in his first season.

The Saints were eliminated early and experienced a mid-term wobble this season that suggested the bloom had come off Koeman’s rose a little but, unlike Martinez in 2014-15, he has managed to steady the ship and they are in contention for Europe again this time around.

The blend of flair, physique and defensive prowess he is creating at Southampton are just the kinds of qualities that Evertonian admirers see in him and it’s not hard to envision what he might be able to do with the talent that exists at Everton. He is yet to sign a new contract at St Mary’s, with his current deal set to expire next year, which could be a sign that he is hedging on a bigger appointment coming his way but many see his medium-term future at a bigger club on the Continent.

The fly in this particular ointment? His assistant is “fat, round and bounces on the ground”. Yes, Sammy Lee.

Manuel Pellegrini
He has already won the League Cup and could yet win the Champions League but the Chilean will still be out of a job this summer. That has made him a staple for any conversation about a potential successor to Martinez even though it seems far more likely that he will return to Spain, possibly with manager-less Valencia.

Given that he is already in the northwest and now has plenty of experience with the Premier League, a move to Everton where there could be the promise of a sizeable budget and, if you believe the media, a couple of his former transfer targets already in place in the form of Ross Barkley and John Stones could be tempting. But not, perhaps, as much as La Liga…

Critics of Pellegrini, however, point to his profligacy with cash at City — the colossal expenditure on Eliaquim Mangala and Raheem Sterling, two signings who together cost getting on for £90m but have failed to set the Etihad alight. Couple that with his team’s suspect defence and, at times, questionable mentality and you get the feeling he would just be a more successful Martinez who would struggle without an open chequebook and a massive budget.

Roberto Mancini
The former City boss, popular among Blues because of the success Everton teams enjoyed against his teams when he was in Manchester, is back at Internazionale for a second spell after serving just a year of a three-year contract at Galatasaray. Inter sit fourth in Serie A, exactly where they finished in 2014-15 and the season before that.

Mancini would bring knowledge of the English game and some much-needed emphasis on shoring up the back as a foundation for winning tight games but the manner in which his relationship with players and staff at City deteriorated before his team lost the 2013 FA Cup Final to Wigan and he was sacked will not inspire much confidence that he would be the right fit at Goodison.

Unai Emery
Back-to-back Europa League titles and on course for a possible treble, Emery has been unable to translate success in the European competition into a successful assault on the top four in La Liga, largely because the Andalusian club still operates on a footing of selling its best players to remain competitive.

Raised as a potential successor to Jose Mourinho at Chelsea and reportedly in the frame for the West Ham job before Slaven Bilic’s appointment, Emery has been credited with a studious outlook on the game combined with a tough streak and considerable man-management skills. Gerard Deulofeu might disagree based on his negative experience playing under him in the 2014-15 season but the Spanish winger’s experience back at Everton this terms suggests that he needs more long-term attention than a year-long loan can provide.

Whatever happens in the Europa League this season, Emery could be ready to try and fresh challenge so it would not be a surprise if he were linked should a vacancy open up at Everton this summer.

Marcelo Bielsa
If you believe the press, the Argentine’s people have already been drumming up talk of him being approached by Everton to get his name out there so he looks to be in the market for his next gig after a strange stint at Marseille where he quit after the first game of the 2015-16 season citing disagreements with the French club’s board. He’s not nicknamed El Loco for nothing.

His stock in the world game is high, though, and Bielsa counts the likes of Pep Guardiola and Spurs’ Pochettino among his biggest admirers, mostly for what he achieved as manager of the Chilean national team and Athletic Bilbao where he narrowly missed out on a Europa League and Spanish cup double. Regarded as something of a master tactician, with the 3-3-3-1 formation at the root of his philosophy, he would bring something very different to Goodison from past Everton managers.

The language barrier has been cited as a potential stumbling block — he doesn’t speak English — but that didn’t stop Pochettino who is now virtually fluent and on a roll now at White Hart Lane in his second season in charge.

Rafael Benitez
It’s surprising how many Evertonians would consider the Spaniard as a potential Everton boss given his former association with Liverpool and “small club” jibe at the Blues while he was at Anfield. Perhaps his time with Real Madrid and the passage of a good amount of water under the bridge has lessened the ill feeling towards him.

Benitez signed a three-year contract with Newcastle when he succeeded McClaren recently but if he fails to keep the Magpies in the Premier League this season — not in itself a glowing recommendation, particularly given Everton’s experience with the last manager they hired immediately following relegation — he could have exit clauses that would allow him a route back into the top flight or back to another post abroad.

Lucien Favre
[Added post-publication based on comments below.] The Swiss attracted much attention for the manner in which he reversed the fortunes of Borussia Mönchengladbach between 2011 and 2015, taking them from rock bottom of the Bundesliga when he took over to Champions League qualification a year ago.

He didn’t get to see through Die Fohlen’s campaign in Europe, however, as he resigned as manager in September last year after losing all five of the first league games of the 2015-16 season. As such, he is currently unemployed.

Favre’s coaching philosophy is described on his Wikipedia entry as favouring “dynamic, quick and attack-minded football where ball possession and change of tempo alternate. Favre is also well known for his ability to develop talented young players and introduce them into the first team.”

"The Unlikely Lads"

Guus Hiddink
Another experienced, well-travelled manager who will be out of a job this summer, Hiddink is mentioned frequently whenever the topic of replacing Martinez comes up. Two reasonably successful stand-in jobs at Chelsea — he won the FA Cup first time around and led an impressive surge back into the top half of the Premier League this time but has seen his fortunes stagnate a little of late, with the Londoners exiting the Champions League at the hands of PSG.

He also oversaw the Netherlands’ awful start to their Euro2016 qualifying campaign, one riven by unrest in the camp which, again, would cast doubt on his ability to properly mend any serious breakdown in morale at Everton.

In any case, Hiddink has openly said that he will probably retire after he steps down at Chelsea this summer, rendering much discussion about him moot.

Andre Villas-Boas
In contrast to the drawn-out decline of the Martinez era, Villas-Boas was given surprisingly short shrift by Daniel Levy at Tottenham, sacking him just 14 months into the job with Spurs sitting in 7th in the Premier League and with a 100% record in the Europa League group phase. While his season with Chelsea was underwhelming, he left White Hart Lane with Tottenham’s highest win percentage of the Premier League era, one no doubt bettered this season by Mauricio Pochettino.

Having steered Zenit St Petersburg into the Champions League in his first season and won the Russian League in his second, Villas-Boas announced that he would be returning to Portugal for the sake of his family. It has also been said that he harbours no desire at this stage to manage again in England. So, while he would be attainable by Everton given his previous experience in the Premier League, it doesn’t look as though Villas-Boas would be an option.

Roberto di Matteo
If ever a manager’s experience exemplified the lack of patience at Chelsea under Roman Abramovich, di Matteo’s surely did. The Italian won the FA Cup and the Champions League in 2012 as one of the London club’s many temporary managers over the years but was sacked just a few months after he was given the job on a permanent basis.

His solitary season as manager after that at Schalke 04 was less successful and he resigned last May after failing to make the Champions League. Another Roberto with just cup success and a limited track record in the Premier League? Perhaps not.

Michael Laudrup
The Dane was high on the list of potential candidates to replace Moyes three years ago, more perhaps for his pedigree, eye for a player, and the style of football he advocates than his record at Swansea. He was dismissed by the Swans with the club sitting just above the relegation zone which hardly inspires confidence in his ability to lift Everton back to where the club wants to be.

Since leaving the Liberty Stadium, he had a successful season in Qatar with Lekhwiya where he won the league and cup double but elected not to stay on and is currently out of the game.

Gary Neville
As an assistant to Roy Hodgson in the England setup and arguably the most respected pundit on Sky Sports, the elder Neville brother built up tremendous cachet but it didn’t translate to success in La Liga with Valencia where he survived 29 games before being sacked earlier this season.

Whether his knowledge of the game would be better employed back in the Premier League remains to be seen but in their position Everton can’t afford to take a punt on an unknown quantity. Plus, there’s unlikely to be much enthusiasm for his brother returning to Goodison Park given how closely he us associated with the dour David Moyes regime.

"The Up-and-Comers"

Eddie Howe
One of the more highly-regarded young managers in England, Howe is favoured by some Evertonians as much for the fact that he has admitted to being a boyhood fan of the Blues as for the impressive work he has done at Bournemouth. The 38-year-old guided them up the league ladder and into the top flight last year and has since defied a potentially crippling series of injuries to key players and the massive odds stacked against his small club to achieve almost certain safety from relegation.

Without access to top-quality players, it’s hard to determine what brand of football Howe would implement at a club like Everton but his desire to manage his clubs from top-to-bottom, his generally positive outlook and motivational instincts would stand him in good stead. Pleasingly to Evertonian ears, he prefers fast-tempo football with a pass-and-move ethos.

Howe has extensive experience managing at all levels of the English game but his brief stint at Burnley was curtailed in part because of his desire to return to the south for family reasons. That could preclude him coming to Merseyside should he end up on Everton’s shortlist but his lack of top-level experience and any proven success should rule him out of the running.

Sean Dyche
Another name that frequently comes up is that of the current Burnley boss who is trying to steer the Clarets back to the Premier League again following their relegation last season. In that sense and as a coach with no demonstrable success, he arguably deserves less consideration than Eddie Howe whose Cherries side currently sits in 12th place in the top flight this season, comfortably clear of the drop zone.

Aitor Karanka
Notable for this stint as assistant manager at Real Madrid for whom he also made 93 appearances, Karanka has been at the helm at the Riverside for the last three years.

His Middlesbrough side are being pushed all the way by Burnley and Brighton for the automatic promotion slots this season but the Spaniard started turning heads earlier this season due to his side’s impressive defensive record in the Championship and their League Cup victory over Louis van Gaal’s Manchester United on penalties in October.

The similarities with Roberto Martinez might be far too unsettlingly uncanny for Evertonians, however. Like the current incumbent of the Goodison hotseat, Karanka is 42, Spanish, and was appointed to his present gig in 2013. As if that weren’t enough, he has also been criticised recently for his rigid adherence to a particular footballing philosophy following a row with his players after which he was temporarily suspended from his position. His reaction to the criticism: “I don’t think I am the problem. I’ve been here two years and, with my way, the team is improving. I don’t think I have to change.” Sound familiar?

Dennis Bergkamp
Given his genius as a player, you almost feel that it’s a given that the ex-Holland star will become a top-class manager. Things don’t always work out like that and Everton aren’t really in the position where they could take a flyer on a novice no matter how glittering his pedigree.

Bergkamp is currently cutting his teeth as Frank de Boer’s assistant at Ajax and you would think he has his eye on eventually replacing his former international team-mate if and when he moves on to pastures new.

"The Oh-Please-Nos"

David Moyes
While he remains unemployed, the former Everton boss will always be mentioned in connection with any vacancy at Goodison Park, as if Evertonians would be so desperate for another era of familiar but unspectacular and barren consistency that they couldn’t wait to get him back in.

Over 11 years, Moyes’s tenure ran its course and it was clear he had taken the team as far as he could long before he eventually left. By the time he did, many behind the scenes at Goodison and Finch Farm couldn’t wait to see the back of him and Martinez’s sunny optimism was seen as breath of fresh air when he arrived in 2013. They say “never go back” and that applies here. The Moyes era was just what we needed when he came but we need to aim higher now. Just say no.

Mark Hughes
One more name that constantly comes up although it’s hard to know why. He failed to achieve anything at Manchester City and hasn’t set the world alight at any of the other clubs he has managed either. Despite overseeing Stoke’s best squad of the Premier League era, Hughes is struggling to keep the Potters above Everton in the table with a defence even more porous than Martinez’s.

There is a list of other names that frequently get tossed around that also deserve to be on this list like Neil Lennon, Paul Lambert and Martin O’Neill as well as past flavours of the month who aren’t worth considering until they’ve achieved something like Quique Flores.

The Ex-Blues

Whether it be because they’re gaining valuable experience away from Goodison — and doing fairly well in some cases — or purely because of the impulse to get Evertonian back into the hotseat, a number of ex-players are routinely put forward as managerial candidates for the Blues.

Alan Stubbs and David Weir in Scotland as manager with Hibs and assistant boss at Rangers respectively but few feel that the weaker Scottish league is any indication of future success in the English Premier League.

There are options currently working at Finch Farm, too, of course, but, again none apart from Joe Royle have high-level experience and he would fall under the “never go back” category. Duncan Ferguson, David Unsworth and Kevin Sheedy all have a fair way to go before they could be considered ready for the big job at Everton and would probably need to go get full managerial experience away from the club first.

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Roger Sunde
1 Posted 25/04/2016 at 07:13:04
Diego Simeone is definitive the wet dream.
Peter Fearon
2 Posted 25/04/2016 at 07:24:13
After supporting and defending Roberto Martinez for months and taking plenty of stick for it I have reluctantly come to the conclusion that he must go.

Apart from the obvious reasons I don’t see how he can repair the fractured relationship with the fans. That being the case, here is who I think is on the short list to replace him?

Duncan Ferguson. This is a man who knows the club inside out, who is in a great position to bring in the younger players and who has the respect of the squad who need to be given some lessons in commitment. At the least he should be given a change as interim manager.

Roberto Mancini. He left Manchester City with a lot of business left unfinished. He is a great build-from-the-back tactician who can attract big name players. He may welcome another shot at the Premier League with a club that now has some money to spend.

Julen Lopetgui. He managed Porto and is currently available. He has a great win average as manager – some 74% - and 2.5 points per game over 78 matches. He was fired from Porto after – get this – a three game losing streak. A Premier League challenge is his next obvious step up in his career.

Marc Wilmots. The current manager of the Belgian national side is expected to look for a club to manage after Euro 2016.

Denis Bergkamp. Frank de Boer isn’t going anywhere but Bergkamp is ripe to make the step up to the Premier League.

David Milner
3 Posted 25/04/2016 at 07:40:25
Unai Emery is worth a punt if not just for his enthusiasm on the touchline.

Made his name first at Almeria and then to Valencia, who although were a big La Liga name, were nigh on bankrupt amd had to be bailed out by the regional government.

Went on to Russia where he did a good job and then to Seville, the results speak for themselves. His teams defend well and always score goals.
Erik Dols
4 Posted 25/04/2016 at 07:45:30
Peter, most people in Belgium do not rate Marc Wilmots very highly, he is seen as a tactical nitwit. And he makes, well, interesting choices. At the last World Cup Belgium didn't create a chance/shot on goal from set-pieces. Not one.

When the press heard from a player that the national team hadn't practiced set-pieces at all in the last year, they couldn't believe their ears and questioned Wilmots about it. He admitted not training on set-pieces and said the risk of injuries was too high...

I wouldn't touch Wilmots with a barge pole.

Phil Walling
5 Posted 25/04/2016 at 07:46:03
The obvious preference of the writer for Eddie Howe clearly ignores his teams appalling defensive record which is about to get worse on Saturday.

Were Kenwright not so keen on keeping Roberto, Howe would fit his usual criteria of young and initially dead cheap!

John Louis Jones
6 Posted 25/04/2016 at 07:50:01
Frank de Boer would be a great choice, If he brings his backroom Staff, Stam and Bergkamp.

He has to bring through youth and with star Quality back room, He could bring big names.

Seems win win for me.

Still need Martinez Gone first, I have seen posts on Social Media calling for a Protest on Saturday if Martinez is still in charge.

Lyndon Lloyd
8 Posted 25/04/2016 at 07:56:13
Umm, Phil (5), what part of "but his lack of top-level experience and proven success should rule him out of the running" did you miss?

I don't think Howe should be in the running at all – he would, in my opinion, be a low-risk and unimaginative appointment, the kind we would have made years ago when we had no money.

Denver Daniels
9 Posted 25/04/2016 at 08:05:52
Lucien Favre for me. Currently out of work so no compensation to be paid. Favours a fast-paced, counter-attacking style.

Or if we going Dutch then why not Phillip Cocu? Doing great as manager of PSV and a former Barcelona captain so would be able to attract players as well as command the respect of the dressing room.

Jim Bailey
10 Posted 25/04/2016 at 08:10:18
Benitez for me. Would only happen if the Toon go down however. Proven in the Premier league, will get immediate respect from players, as for the small club jibe, it was tongue in cheek and shows that he can wind people up, lots of Blues fell for it.

He is also an accomplished master of the "dark arts" and will instill a sense of belief among the squad. Don't know what's not to like really. It would be a positive statement of intent as opposed to taking a punt with the likes of Howe (no disrespect to him).

First things first though, we have to get rid of the present incumbent.

John Keating
11 Posted 25/04/2016 at 08:10:25
Every summer there are loads of names being banded about who we will be signing. Very rarely are ever those named ever signed. If we do sign anyone it is usually someone that's not been quoted.

It would not surprise me if something similar happens with the manager's position.

Oliver Molloy
12 Posted 25/04/2016 at 08:28:01
This subject has been brought up on here so many times it's becoming tiresome – like our current manager, who by the way we have to part ways with before anything can happen!
Phil Walling
13 Posted 25/04/2016 at 08:31:42
Apologies, Lyndon. I should have re-read your comments before firing off yet another 'Please God not Howe' post!

I'm probably far too influenced by the views of a Burnley director mate who classes his appointment as the worst his club have made!

Chris Regan
14 Posted 25/04/2016 at 08:32:14
Please can we have someone good, no Kenwright choices.
Neil Quinn
15 Posted 25/04/2016 at 08:37:06
Benitez is a No for me. His transfer record at Liverpool was appalling. A constant revolving door of overpriced, under achieving foreigners.
Tony Draper
16 Posted 25/04/2016 at 08:37:55
Lyndon, that's a cracking piece. Covers all of the necessary ground so far as I'm concerned and very well summed up. Thanks.

I currently have no clear favourite candidate, but as John @ #6 points out De Boer and his backroom would be a very compelling crew for me.

Alan McGuffog
17 Posted 25/04/2016 at 08:39:25
Frank Spencer and Betty. Well? Could they be any more inept than what we have now?
Clive Lewis
18 Posted 25/04/2016 at 08:44:56
Mancini has the best credentials. Howe is a big gamble.
Duncan is a big gamble.
Pellegrino has ability would do a decent job.
Koeman possibly a good choice
Most of the others maybe not managed in the premier league.

Mancini has Won Premier league and manager of the year, therefore that is where my recommendation is.

John Raftery
19 Posted 25/04/2016 at 08:54:24
I am by no means confident Martinez will be sacked. If he is it seems to me we can go in one of two directions. We can choose the best qualified manager who is likely to be available to us with current knowledge and experience of the Premier League. That is Benitez. The problem with that appointment is the likely adverse reaction by the fan base. It would only take a couple of defeats for social media to go into meltdown. The other direction is to look at the top European Leagues and choose one with a track record of managing a team in the top five or six and winning silverware. For me Emery fits the bill.

Of course changing the manager is not the only issue this summer. The so called best squad in the last thirty years needs a major overhaul. That must start this summer with all the players over thirty jettisoned and at least seven new signings. So there is a lot to be done but there is an opportunity for the new man to build a dynasty.

Pete Cross
20 Posted 25/04/2016 at 08:55:52
Excellent piece, shows how difficult picking a manager is.

As for all Kenwright's shortcomings – as TW polls show, Martinez was a popular choice at the time.

Tony Draper
21 Posted 25/04/2016 at 09:06:45
Some afterthoughts, the key factor in this really is the hand upon the tiller.

Small club thinking for far too long has brought us to where we are. Consequently we really should (sadly) rule out every single home grown candidate as being "tainted by association".

As Villa begin their descent beyond the horizon, they are suddenly relabelled as a big or even massive club. Then clearly Everton have not actually become a small, nor even a medium club.

Big club mindset is required now as anything less will saddle us with another "nearly man".

A swift glance at Villa's demise, then a hard look at the top of the table clearly proves the benefits of taking ambitious action and commiting to it.

Mike Green
22 Posted 25/04/2016 at 09:06:47
I wonder how unattainable Simeone would be if you offered him £13.5m pa?

(Also known as "Niasse")

Darren Bailey
23 Posted 25/04/2016 at 09:13:32
Agree with John (#6) – has to be de Boer. If he brings Bergkamp and Stam with him that's perfect for what we need right now. I'd love for him to bring half the players from Ajax as well:

Cillesen (Howard replacement), van Rhijn (Coleman competition), Veltman (CB-don't want to say Stones replacement), Bazoer (holding midfield/Barry replacement), Fischer (Pienaar/Osman replacement), Klaassen (Barkley competition) and Milik (Rom replacement).

All under 24 apart from Cillesen who's a great age for a keeper at 27. Great young manager and big name coaching staff with a "phenominal" group of young talent as well.

And then I woke up. As you can probably tell, I watch a bit of Eredivisie and Ajax are a technically sound, fluid attacking football team built on a solid defensive base. Just what we need but obviously not what's going to happen.

Christy Ring
24 Posted 25/04/2016 at 09:20:52
I'd go for Koeman, he has only 1 year left on his contract, but leave the fat Liverpudlian Lee where he is, and make Sheedy his No 2.

I don't understand why Benitez is being mentioned, steeped to win against Milan, and has done anything much since, sacked at Inter and Madrid.

Ken Buckley
25 Posted 25/04/2016 at 09:27:54
Picking a manager can be like picking a racehorse. To get the winner you need a large slice of luck. Luck that sees manager, existing and future players all buying into the same thing and chemistry becomes synonymous with all.

My bet at the moment is Kenwright will stick with our present manager just like he remembers Carter backing underfire Kendall and he will be hoping he gets lucky and replicates the rewards we got after that move. This time, we have the Moshiri millions to come into play.

Interesting times indeed.

UP THE BLUES

Brian Harrison
26 Posted 25/04/2016 at 09:34:34
Diego Simeone is a class act and a proven pedigree, and I would absolutely love him at Goodison. But his team is challenging for the title, guaranteed Champions league, so what would be the attraction of coming to Everton.

We have never appointed a man at the top of the tree, so cant see them starting now. Even our most successful manager came from 2nd Division Blackburn. Moyes came from 2nd Division Preston. Walker had one good season with Norwich but was never equipped or proven to manage Everton. Also, Martinez came from a team who had just been relegated.

So expect someone like Eddie Howe another whose defensive record is nearly as bad as Martinez.

We will now see how ambitious Moshiri is going to be, this next appointment could define our club for many seasons to come.

Justin Harvey
27 Posted 25/04/2016 at 09:38:43
Benitez is a no for me, Howe would be a lazy Martinez esque appointment.

like the idea of De boer and Cocu who someone mentioned.

I also think Rebrov could be an outside shout, doing good things at Kiev, knows the prem and might enable the signing of Yarmolenko. I think for Everton we won't attract the Simeone's of this world and need to catch the next great managers on their way up and Rebrov could be the man.

Eric Holland
28 Posted 25/04/2016 at 09:40:35
Marcelo Bielsa for me.


Would command respect of players and managers alike.

Jim Bennings
29 Posted 25/04/2016 at 09:41:48
No to..

Duncan Ferguson
Eddie Howe
David Moyes

And any other small time manager with experience of fighting relegation or getting teams promoted, this is not what we are aiming for and usually you find these types of managers have limitations when it comes to getting over the line.

I'd also be wary of getting a manager with no Premier League experience which is why I wouldn't go for DeBoer either.


DeBoer could be great but it's too much of a risk and our next appointment needs to be a proven manager that you can guarantee will stand up to the demands.

The only managers from overseas we should be interested in are those from strong league's with a good track record, Marcelo Bielsa, Unai Emery for example.

Koeman would be my choice within reason.

I'd make the call just to hear what Mourinho had to say but I doubt it would happen.

I don't want any stupid risk like Phil Neville with Duncan Ferguson next to him either, not good enough.

This has to be the right move now, we have to make a real statement of intent.

Dennis Stevens
30 Posted 25/04/2016 at 09:51:11
Had Martinez been given the boot a few matches back & Big Joe taken over in the interim, we might still be in the Cup. It might also have caused a few want-aways to think twice, knowing there would be a new man in the hot seat come the summer.

I'd love to think the Board have their man in place & a swift change of manager is about to occur, allowing the new man a few matches to size up his squad & start making plans for the summer. However, if I trust my gut instinct, I have an underlying fear Martinez will not only remain in place until the end of the season but well into the next one. Sadly, I can't help but anticipate Martinez finally being shown the door somewhere between October & January, when it becomes blindingly obvious that we've carried on where we left off & will be, by then, seriously at risk of relegation.

This will, of course, leave the club scrambling to find a suitable & available replacement mid-season & present the new man with the prospect of a rescue job –& after Martinez has spent any transfer kitty too!

A chance for Mr Moshiri to defy expectations & show he is the leader we've been waiting for. If he doesn't act soon, we'll know the worst – nothing's really changed at Board level.

Brin Williams
31 Posted 25/04/2016 at 09:55:55
Lyndon, as usual a great assessment of what's out there but you just stop short of the answer we all want to hear - Who? not How(e)!
Keith Harrison
32 Posted 25/04/2016 at 09:57:10
I would do a better job than Senor Martinez. Unfortunately we watch the grand-kids every other week, so that rules me out.

Second choice should be Diego Simeone. Throw the chequebook at him.
He has consistently 'over-achieved' against what amounts to Government backed sides in Barca and Real, can spot players, and would be absolutely ideal for our needs. Our so called £100m spending pot will be dwarfed by Liverpool, Man Utd, Man City, Chelsea and possibly Arsenal, so instead of a loudmouth like Roberto showing the card-school his hand before the first bet, we need someone who can spend large, but shrewdly.

Diego, come on down. Over to you Mr Moshiri.

Barry Pearce
33 Posted 25/04/2016 at 10:01:03
Ronald Koeman for me.
He has proved himself to be above average in the premiership, and hopefully with the right funds afforded to him. I believe would be at least a top four place at least manager.

He seems to have the the best of everything that's needed to succeed. Also he doesn't talk bullshit. Always tells it how it is.

Rob Halligan
34 Posted 25/04/2016 at 10:11:17
Diego simeone, or Jose mourinho for me. Simeone only has Barcelona and real Madrid to contend with. I'm sure he'd love the challenge of the premier league, playing Chelsea, Arsenal, Spurs, the two Manchester clubs, and the RS.

Mourinho because he has knowledge of the premier league and is a winner.

This decision is going to be a big one and has to be made by Moshiri. Assuming, of course, there will be a decision to make.

Eric Myles
35 Posted 25/04/2016 at 10:11:20
One from left field?

Arsene Wenger

Moshiri knows him and may have some influence, he recruits very good players without spending extravagant amounts of money and is consistently fairly successful, plays attractive football, he seems to be out of favour with the Arsenal fans and may fancy a change.

The downside? Moshiri knows him and he may be one of the reasons Moshiri left Arsenal and wrote that letter criticizing the running of the club.

Jim Bennings
36 Posted 25/04/2016 at 10:17:04
Eric

Wenger won't manage another English club, very much doubt he'll manage again full stop once he leaves Arsenal.

Amit Vithlani
37 Posted 25/04/2016 at 10:21:20
A really enjoyable read Lyndon. Can I proffer yet another category of manager.

All of the above is based on the next appointment as the be-all and end-all.

However, what about a two-step approach as Man City did with Guardiola? They put in place all the pieces to attract their man as part of a 3 year plan, the length of his Bayern contract.

Everton do not have City's resources but they could deploy a similar strategy.

Identify a top target, eg Koeman, De Boer, Simeone. Find out under what circumstances they would join, eg New Stadium, back challenging for CL, war chest.

Establish time frame, eg 2 years.

Hire a manager with a clear remit and budget to push the squad back up to challenging for a top 4 place, and commence off the field activities simulataneously.

Pellegrini, Hiddink and Mancini would be an extremely good fits in such circumstances. All have shown an ability to make a strong impression in their first 1-2 years, although their ability to sustain success is not a strong point. Benitez would fit right in to this category but as with George Graham at Spurs, one has to question whether his affections for the RS would be conducive to the role.

The dismissal of in house candidates is baffling. Unsworth to me appears to have the tools - he is developing the U21s well and their results have been ok. Perhaps a 2 year apprenticeship alongside an older head, as United are trying to do with Giggs, could be an option?

Sam Hoare
38 Posted 25/04/2016 at 10:21:37
Simeone is possibly the most coveted manager in the world behind Guardiola, or possibly not even behind.

There is zero chance of him coming here as if he did want an English paycheque he would be heading to City, United, Arsenal or Chelsea. Or else he would be at PSG, Juventus. He really could take his pick but will probably stay where he is happy and adored.

Mourinho there is marginally more chance of as he's available and wants to stay in England. If Man utd or PSG don't take him then there's a small chance he could fancy a project.

Out of all the likely managers it seems there are very few candidates who most people would be happy with. I like Pellegrini but can see how he is a version of Roberto. Bielsa is too much a risk. Howe is a Moyes mkII (i wouldn't mind but wouldn;'t be popular.) Benitez I actually think would be shrewd but would be divisive.

For me there are 2 choices from the list that stand out and seem to have the most support. The Dutchmen.

Koeman has done a very good job at Southampton and has built a new team that look solid but play well in a fairly short time. He has corrected things when it looked like they may be heading off course this season. He has bought well and has his team playing with consistency. Big tick. Would he come? That will depend hugely on what Moshiri can offer him and very little on our History as some blue-tinted fans seem to think. At the moment he has a good team that could be well placed to do a Leicester next season whereas we are a mess looking likely to lose our 'gems' so I think it will be a hard sell but not impossible.

The other candidate is De Boer with his impressive Dutch staff. More of a risk perhaps as he has not done it in a tough league yet but his team looks to be well organised, high tempo and with no small flair. He backs the youth where appropriate and most importantly is a winner who will command respect. To me it would seem a risk worth taking as he could well be the next Pochettino or Koeman. He's done his dues in the Eredivisie and you'd think he'd be up for the next challenge soon. If nothing else then BK's support for RM has made Goodison an attractive place for managers as they can see they will be given a good chance. This feels a good fit to me.

Emery would possibly be my third choice after his sterling work at Seville though it should be noted that his only stint out of Spain was pretty disastrous at Spartak and culminated in a 5-1 home loss in their derby. Not sure i'm keen to go straight back to a Spanish manager who seems to excel mostly in cups!

AVB would be my 4th choice as he has done well almost everywhere except for Chelsea where he was given no time. Even at Spurs he did better than given credit for. He's done well in Russia but looks to be keen on returning to Portugal.

Jim Lloyd
39 Posted 25/04/2016 at 10:23:26
If, a big if, Martinez is sacked before the end of the season, then the Board have either got someone in mind now, or they think we could benefit as a club immediately.

I don't know who would be the best bet but anyone who has a persona approaching Bill Shankly's or Alex Ferguson's would be a good ingredient for our next manager (not easy to find!) but, to me, the club needs someone who can revitalise the players and lift the morale of players and fans alike.

Ken Buckley said that a big slice of luck is needed for things to come together. Dead right.

I don't think this is the best group of players in a generation but we do have some good young talented players. To build a team, we need a man who can, above all things, instill a spirit in the players like Shankly did. Like Howard did and like Ferguson did.

Pity we didn't get Pottechino or Klopp but I think that we were a club that picked outsiders, to keep us in the Premiership, anything else was a bonus.

Now, we've got a man who has a fair amount of cash and who now can choose from managers with better track records, or from the very best up and coming managers.

I don't know enough about him but Simeone has been described as a top class man who can weld players into a formidable team with the right attitude to take on any team.

Not an easy job but this board has to go for the very best candidate and that's all I hope they do. No guarantee we will suddenly start winning cups or finishing in the top four from the word go. But importantly,maybe most importantly, someone who has that "character" to enthuse the players with belief.

Danny O'Neill
40 Posted 25/04/2016 at 10:24:24
With the new owner seemingly about to unlock funds to potentially take us to a different level in the transfer market, if we make managerial change, then this too must aim higher.

Proven entity not a punt on someone from the latest list of up-and-coming candidates in the British game who may or may not become top managers.

Interesting, the 3 who fell into that category 3-5 years ago were all given their chance and failed. Rogers, Lambert and now sadly Martinez.

From Lyndon's list, clearly Simone would be perfect albeit unrealistic. The current Dortmund coach is interesting and although its only the Dutch league, De Boer wets the appetite. Great player and 5 titles in 6 years (potentially) in any league is impressive. Currently boss of a European footballing institution so big club mentality ticked and could bring Dutch principles with him.

Moyes – No! End of discussion!

Hold on for the ride – could be a long summer!!

Liam Reilly
41 Posted 25/04/2016 at 10:25:29
Simeone is one of the most coveted managers in world football and is not coming to Goodison Park anytime soon unless its for a pre-season friendly.

We need to take a chance but it should be on someone who knows how to win. We should go all in for De Boer and offer him a contract that he can't refuse. Failing that; Mancini.

If Moyes comes back, I'm done; as I wouldn't put myself through that shite again.

Sam Hoare
42 Posted 25/04/2016 at 10:33:08
Liam, see you've opened with exactly same thought as me!
Liam Reilly
43 Posted 25/04/2016 at 10:36:25
Yep Sam; buy the time I got through reading all the posts; you must've written yours; but yep as Lyndon puts it: Simeone is a 'Moon Shot' and I'd rather be realistic in our targets.
Dean Peamum
44 Posted 25/04/2016 at 10:37:27
My choice would be Ronald Koeman but then why would he come to us? In league terms it would be a step down for him but he might like the challenge.

Finished 13 points above us last season and currently 13 points ahead now. Conceded 33 goals last season - 2nd best record after champions Chelsea (32). So defensively he should sort us out.

Knowing Kenwright, it'll probably be no-one or Neil Warnock.

Phil Martin
45 Posted 25/04/2016 at 10:47:08
Excluding Simeone as there is no way he'd leave Madrid for Everton.

Mourinho,
Koeman,
De Boer,
Pellegrini,
Tuchel,
Bielsa.

In that order for me

David McKitt
46 Posted 25/04/2016 at 10:48:22
I agree with Denver (9), I think Lucien Favre's name should be thrown into the hat. Esp as hes a free agent.
Colin Hughes
47 Posted 25/04/2016 at 10:53:03
Everton won't sack him so lets get down to the real end of season nitty gritty for Evertonians and start praying somebody can stop the redshite in the Europa League. I live in the city and I for one don't want to witness billions of people lining the streets of the city when they win yet another European trophy and become the first team ever to qualify for the Champions League as a result.

I couldn't face the press and media painting Klopp as the next Shankly and proclaiming the WHOLE city is on a high or words to that effect.

Everton are predictable, we just plod along in mid table never achieving anything, accepting mediocrity and dish out new contracts to players who have continually failed but hey they are good pro,s and nice guys.

Andrew Ellams
48 Posted 25/04/2016 at 10:53:36
I'm torn between De Boer and the coaching team he could possibly bring with him or an older head to steady the ship and bring the likes of Stones and Barkley up to the standard they should be at by now.
Bun McGale
49 Posted 25/04/2016 at 10:53:42
You can put your guessing to bed, people, because, from what I have been hearing in betting circles, Manuel Pellegrini will be taking over in the summer. His odds have been slashed amid big money being put on him and giving the fact that there was stories of preliminary talks already before this.

This information is coming from betting forums and non Everton fans who have been discussing it amongst other topics.

Nick Page
50 Posted 25/04/2016 at 11:11:50
Colin, you just know its going to happen with those jammy fuckers. There is no team in the history of sport as lucky as that shower of twats.

I like Tuchel but its hard to see him leaving BVB. More likely is De Boer but does the board have the appetite for a professional appointment i.e. not someone who can be Bill's friend. Oh what a mess he has created.

With so much fan unrest, isn't it normal for a board to at least "back" the manager or are our lot so above us they just don't give a flying shite?

Ian Burns
51 Posted 25/04/2016 at 11:21:09
That's got the old brain working Lyndon - well thought out analysis of most of the available talent out there.

What has to be taken into consideration is the appointment must also be one which will make the present playing staff sit up and take notice. The sort of appointment which will give them second thoughts about leaving for pastures new.

Eddie Howe for example wouldn't do it - whereas the unreachable Simeone would - so it has to be an appointment to set the pulses racing (in a football sense of course!).

Ajax have some very exciting players, so maybe De Boer; Bergkamp combination who would bring one or two of these players along with them, might just about cause a re-think or two amongst the players but I would pay a King's ransom to get Simeone.

Martin Nicholls
52 Posted 25/04/2016 at 11:23:45
Good point by Mike - 28. Big enough pay packet might tempt Simeone. Failing that, my choice would be Unai Emery or Dr Boer/Bergkamp. No "flavour of the month" types though - remember other such types such as Malky Mackay being touted 3 years ago!
Eric Myles
54 Posted 25/04/2016 at 11:55:24
Jim (#36) I was sort of thinking the same which is where I think the Moshiri influence may come into play, persuade him to help for a couple of seasons to get us back to the top.

Unless, like I said, Moshiri sees Wenger as part of the problem at Arsenal.

David Booth
55 Posted 25/04/2016 at 11:57:05
Am I the first to say that I do not believe Martinez will be removed from his post? Now, or before next season.

The 'Kendall factor', the 'Everton way' and the fact that Bill Kenwright seems to really like him – an honourable, but misplaced sentiment in this case – convince me he is going nowhere.

And if, god forbid, we show some form in our remaining matches, that will cement his position even further.

The one imponderable is how much influence does our new majority shareholder have and what are his views I wonder?

We speculate so much and know so little about what really goes on behind the scenes...

Paul Andrews
56 Posted 25/04/2016 at 12:00:12
Hopefully a local coach will be brought in to the set up.
One with a Royal Blue background.
We should have done it last time.
Hindsight is a wonderful thing.
Chris Williams
57 Posted 25/04/2016 at 12:12:08
I hope that Moshiri and co are trying to line up a suitable replacement before pulling the trigger on Martinez, so they can make both announcements simultaneously, so we may have to be a little patient for a while. Getting someone good will take time perhaps.

I just happened to catch a couple of old matches being shown on Sky – Wigan v Spurs and then Chelsea. 1-9 and 0-8 respectively. Scarily familiar set up, poor defending, loads of individual errors.

A bit spooky and close to home...

Oliver Molloy
58 Posted 25/04/2016 at 12:30:43
David I agree, I too now believe that he will get to start the season at least with Everton.
Nick Entwistle
59 Posted 25/04/2016 at 12:33:34
Please no up and coming Eddie Howe types. Look who he'd be up against. Its a wise head for me.
Sean Randles
60 Posted 25/04/2016 at 12:36:20
Excellent analysis – but interestingly it confirms what I have long suspected. There is no obvious and suitable replacement available that would be better than what we have got.

Simeone and Koeman are expecting bigger jobs in La Liga, Pellegrini and Mancini would be risky gambles with no track record of developing youth and would spend all our money. Mourinho is going to Man Utd. De Boer might be a shout but he already turned down the RS.

Anyway, I think it more likely that Martinez will be given another season – and they will see how he is getting on by November – and act then if it's looking bad. Sorry if that's not what you want to hear, guys, but seems most logical outcome for me.

James Stewart
61 Posted 25/04/2016 at 12:43:27
Not the time for an up and coming manager we need proven at top level.

A good comprehensive list, but we have no chance at the likes of Simone and Tuchel, pure fantasy.

I would like Favre, Mancini, Bielsa to be considered. Proven track records and a step up from what we have had previously.

Please no Benitez or the likes of Unsworth and Ferguson talk. Don't fuel that kind of rubbish!

Paddy Howlin
62 Posted 25/04/2016 at 12:49:51
A great article and a long list of potential managers. Other than the dream ticket names (Mourinho and Simeone) which are highly unlikely to happen, there is not a name that jumps out as a perfect fit or somebody that will unite the fan base.

Maybe there is an opportunity for a change of thinking and approach that is so badly needed at Everton. Could it be time for us to appoint a Director of Football to develop the 'philosophy' and a top class coach to implement it?

De Boer could fit the coach remit for me. Dare I say it, could Moyes make a suitable Director of Football to build upon the original framework he put in place? Just a thought – admittedly a controversial one!

Anthony Flack
63 Posted 25/04/2016 at 12:51:19
The fat waiter... splits opinion.

I suspect the majority would be against it.

For me, I would have him all day long versus the up-and-coming and unproven crowd.....

Alan J Thompson
64 Posted 25/04/2016 at 12:53:42
Some years ago on another site I responded to a post saying Everton should aim to finish 10th in the League that aiming for 10th and just missing put you in a relegation battle, aiming for the top and just missing put you in Europe.

The situation with a manager is a little bit different but we should, at least initially, try and lure the best. Everton do offer good wages which should, at least, work in our favour.

My preference would be to try and entice Wenger but does anyone remember when Joe Royle was manager Johnson and Kenwright, under the guise of reconnoitering different types of stadia in Europe, offering "Big Phil" Schollari(?) the Everton manager's job. Interestingly, the offer was made while Joe was in the Gents and it was rumoured that he was the only one in a room with that name.

Guy Hastings
65 Posted 25/04/2016 at 13:04:45
A fine analysis by Lyndon but conjecture at this point is so much useless beauty. For the sake of the club's stability, the board must make a statement. Not to do so is dereliction of company duty, in my book.

At the moment, the Finch Farm atmosphere will be toxic. Back him or sack him – then at least we all know where we stand.

Rob Tedford
66 Posted 25/04/2016 at 13:06:23
I think we have to make a big statement with a big name manager so no up and coming.

Mourinho is a very slim change; if we could get him, we should... but, if that fails (most definitely will), I'd try get Frank Rijkaard. He's been out the game for a while but managed some of the world's best players and what a player – players would instantly respect him. Just a thought.

Charlie Lloyd
67 Posted 25/04/2016 at 13:08:02
Obviously Simone. But it's not going to happen.

Best of the rest. Koeman (be surprised if he did come), Emery or De Boer. Probably in that order.

Please no.
Mourinho, Laudrup, Howe, Dyche, Ex Blues.

All others mentioned. Not too interesting.

Nicky Styles
68 Posted 25/04/2016 at 13:13:59
Why is David Moyes an 'oh, please no' candidate??
Many Evertonians, myself included, would welcome his return.
Craig Walker
69 Posted 25/04/2016 at 13:20:22
More chance of us getting Bobby Robson or Brian Clough than the first three names.

Surprised Klinnsman isn't listed as a possibility. From what I hear of Evertonians in the US, he would be a disaster.

The fact that Roberto is still in the job makes me think that either he will be given a transfer kitty and the start of next season or we are in talks with somebody already at a club.

Anthony Hawkins
70 Posted 25/04/2016 at 13:30:21
1. I want Martinez out. NOW.
2. I suspect Martinez will be given a couple of months into the new season to turn round the teams fortunes. A misguided concept.
Jackie Barry
71 Posted 25/04/2016 at 13:37:23
Somebody said that Kenwright's job of picking a manager was hard and Martinez was a favorite at first. Just want to say in the politest manner, what a load of old toffee.

I supported Martinez after he had been chosen as most did, but I most certainly did not want him before he was chosen. It baffled me why we aimed so low in the first place.

Liam Reilly
72 Posted 25/04/2016 at 13:42:46
Nicky #68
How could you want Moyes back? 11 years and he never won at Anfield, Stanford Bridge, Utd or Arsenal. Knifes to gunfight comments and happy just to get out of Old Trafford alive.

Remember the meetings with his new employers whilst still manager of Everton. His comments that he would never have stood in the way of an approach by Manchester United for one of our players when he inquired about Baines.

This football club made him a very wealthy man and he treated it as a second class vehicle as soon as he got the United job.

He may have steadied the ship in the early years; but if he comes back; I am done.

Anthony Lewis
73 Posted 25/04/2016 at 13:47:51
I don't know what I would do if we gave Boberto the summer warchest. To me that would be alongside the Kings Dock fiasco as the worst mistakes ever made by the Everton heirarchy
Ste Traverse
74 Posted 25/04/2016 at 13:50:09
I've said it before and will again, I'd have Benitez. He's a real tactician and would organise, and get more out of, this squad.

I don't even care about remark he made about us nearly a decade ago, or his past associations with them.

I still think the Geordies will go down and he will then be available, but I doubt BK and co would be brave enough to appoint him.

Mike Gwyer
75 Posted 25/04/2016 at 13:51:21

Anyone. Really, I mean absolutely anyone with a coaching badge, some knowledge of what corner kicks are all about and some idea about defending.

Noleen Daya
76 Posted 25/04/2016 at 13:57:56
Let me upset the apple cart. Moyes is a definite for me. New money, more money, new era. I think for everything he's done for this club, he is the one who deserves to spend the money we were so desperate for under his reign.

None of us know what he could do with decent funds at his disposal. Look what he did with the little he had, Cahill, Gravesen, Carsley, Arteta, Howard (he was a worthy servant for most of his years here) etc. I'd rather have him, a man who commands respect, a man who also knows our club.

A man who is keen to prove he can hold his own in money stakes. Benitez, never! In fact, I don't want to see another Spaniard or Latin type at our club for a while. If not Moyes, Koeman, by any decent means necessary. Bye for now.

Colin Gee
77 Posted 25/04/2016 at 14:00:16
Just said it on another thread, if Rafa Benitez thought he was hated at Chelsea then that would be nothing to the hatred he would get at Everton, do people not remember he called us a small club? Just for that alone he should never be considered as a possible Everton Manager.

As for Moyes coming back... no thanks: no wins in 50 games at the Sky 4. Martinez has 1 win there in 12 games, so that is two Everton managers with 1 win in 62 games at the Sk 4y which suggests we should be looking at getting in a top proven Manager who is a winner, such as a Simione, Mouriniho, Pellegrini, Mancini, De Boer type etc.

Dave Abrahams
78 Posted 25/04/2016 at 14:06:10
I hope Mr. Moshiri makes the appointment, I would like Mourinho but would settle foe Koeman or De Boer.
Kristian Boyce
79 Posted 25/04/2016 at 14:08:00
Moyes, not a chance. Why on earth would we look to the past not the future???

He was 3 years past his sell-by date when he sneakily left us. Plus I don't get why people are saying it would be great to see what he could do with money. We've seen what he can do with decent funds, Bily, Krøldrup even the Yak to a point.

Also, you can look at the time he had at Man Utd and blowing all their cash as well. Does anyone really want to go back to the 'Plucky Little Everton' era???

Dennis Ng
80 Posted 25/04/2016 at 14:12:35
Lyndon, I'm surprised Emery is one of the attainables. He is one of my moon shots. Rudi Garcia seemed to have dropped off the map but him, Emery and any of the moonshots (minus Mourinho) would be my pick. I'm iffy about Howe but he and maybe Karanka is worth a shot IMO.
Miles Jordan
81 Posted 25/04/2016 at 14:25:28
An excellent, thought provoking piece Lyndon.

I like Koeman very much. I remember him as a player and he was a hard so and so, which is a quality our current encumber sadly lacks. My only reservation is that I think we need someone with the charisma and passion to face up to Klopp, if we are to be seen by others at least as equals of that lot across the park. Mourinho would obviously fit the bill, but not Pellegrini, Mancini, Benitez, etc.

I understand why you haven't included Pottechino, but how about Rannieri? I love what he's doing at Leicester, but acknowledge he would be difficult to prise away. Less charismatic, but doing a good job at West Ham is ex-blue Slavan Bilic.

Finally, with my tongue partially in my cheek, might I also suggest that Roy Hodgson might be looking for a new job this summer.


Pete Cross
82 Posted 25/04/2016 at 14:32:41
Jackie I think you may be referring to my post, as I said, just look back at TW polls at the time.

I didn't want RM but would have been happy to have been proved wrong.

If you don't think it's a difficult job appointing a manager, how come so many get the sack?

Jimmi James
83 Posted 25/04/2016 at 14:33:36
If I'm honest, there are lots of names thrown about on here and most of them are just dreams and unattainable or wouldn't come to Everton, sorry but that's the reality. Just because we have a man with money now it doesn't automatically follow that a big name manager will come here.

I think we may be staying with RM, Im just not convinced BK has the will to sack him and yes I think its down to Bill as I don't think our new shareholder will rock the boat just yet, and to think that lot across the park nearly had RM, fuck it.

Charles Brewer
84 Posted 25/04/2016 at 14:36:12
Who could replace Martinez? Well, if we want to continue current form I'd suggest Howard Kendall IV, my dog, or a lump of jelly.

However, from what I have seen, there is no reason to doubt that Martinez will be there to see our phenomenally unlucky relegation next year, probably settled by about Christmas.

I'm betting on Barkley, Stones, Lukaku and probably Jagielka, Baines and Galloway and most of the better U21s disappearing in the next 12 months so can look forward to a team something like: Robles, Hibbert (LB), Pienaar, Osman (CBs), Besic (RB), Barry, Kone, Junior (if still on the books) , Lennon, McGeady, (MF), and wandering about aimlessly up front ... Niasse.

Jackie Barry
85 Posted 25/04/2016 at 15:15:23
Pete, well Kenwright tried to make it a hard job. Searching far and wide, to Wigan? Yeah right, he sure made it hard job. Not adding any clauses where if Martinez did badly he would walk without a huge pay off.

Who does he think Everton are, Blackpool? Yeah that's the Mirror taking the pee out of us today because some fans suggested Mourinho. This is what he has turned us into!

Patrick Murphy
86 Posted 25/04/2016 at 15:27:20
All those dreaming of a big-name manager taking over when Roberto's managerial reign comes to an end are doomed to be disappointed as Everton don't do big name managers and haven't for the last half-a-century or so.

Harry Catterick, Billy Bingham Howard Kendall, Colin Harvey and Joe Royle all Everton old boys who had not won major trophies with the clubs they had managed previously to arriving at Goodison.

Mike Walker, David Moyes and Robert Martinez hired because they were seen as the up and coming prospects of their particular era. Whilst the other two appointments Gordon Lee and Walter Smith are a bit of a mystery particularly Gordon Lee at least Walter had won stuff in Scotland.

Ten managerial appointments in over half a century and not one of them had a prolonged period of success with another English club, indeed only Roberto had won major English Silverware prior to taking up the Goodison hot seat and even that was tarnished with the relegation of Wigan Athletic.

Many big names have been linked with the job at Everton, Brian Clough, Don Revie, Bobby Robson et al but not many have been approached over the years and none have taken the job if they indeed had been offered it.

Bill Kenwright has and probably will continue the Everton tradition by appointing a manager who fits the Everton way e.g. Duncan Ferguson, Alan Stubbs, David Unsworth or Eddie Howe et al.

This quirky tradition of managerial appointments which seems to fly in the face of the club motto is one of the reasons that the club has been left behind by our traditional rivals and is now threatened by the up and coming clubs.

If Everton FC wants to attempt to be the best it has to appoint the best available to it in all departments, particularly the managers position, but I would imagine the club is quite happy to continue doing what it has done for fifty years and hope that it gets a lucky break along the way.


Danny O'Neill
87 Posted 25/04/2016 at 15:34:56
Good analysis Patrick. Perhaps that's where we will see how much of an influence the new majority shareholder will have. Possibly (and I leave myself slightly open here as I've not done the homework like you), but just possibly, we have for the first time a significant voice in the board room who is interested enough but not in some way emotionally connected with either the club or the city there enabling external and impartial decisions to be made.

As many suggest on here, I think its still an if and I'm not convinced they will get rid just yet.

Anyway, have you just seen the breaking news on Sky? Mark Yates sacked by Crawley. Wonder if its linked?!!

Mike Hughes
88 Posted 25/04/2016 at 15:44:36
Very interesting post, Patrick.

It might be worth adding that the state / expectations of the club at the time are also an important consideration.

Moyes was the right man at the right time IMHO.

He stayed too long and blotted his copybook - but he did stabilise a sinking ship in his first 5 years.

Now, however, we are in a much healthier position financially (apparently).

This should be reflected in a higher profile manager if this club has any ambition. Another conservative appointment will go down like a tonne of bricks with the fanbase.

I think they may well have taken us for granted too long in that case.

I mentioned on another thread that we need a man 'bigger than the club' - one who will not pander to the board and who will awaken a sleeping giant. Not sure who that is / who is attainable.

Jackie Barry
90 Posted 25/04/2016 at 17:15:23
Wow Bill Kenwright really doesn't give a hoot about Everton fans does he? I believe he is the one that needs to be driven out.
Dennis Stevens
91 Posted 25/04/2016 at 17:24:59
Noleen Daya: ... "I think for everything he's done for this club, he is the one who deserves to spend the money we were so desperate for under his reign. None of us know what he could do with decent funds at his disposal."

A yoyo manager who finally found some consistency in his 6th full season at the club. A bottler who nearly always failed when it came to the crunch. A sneak who went behind our backs to negotiate with Manchester United & was then working for them whilst we were still paying him. Oh, & we do know what he could do with decent funds available to him, as he had plenty to spend when he took over at the then League Champions – he failed.

A man of limited ability & no honour – no thanks!

Ian Burns
93 Posted 25/04/2016 at 17:27:25
Mike (#88) – If you think our Chairman will appoint a "Man bigger than the Club" then I'm afraid you are going to be disappointed. I have never criticised the Chairman, as for me my angst has always been aimed at the latter years of Moyes and since the day RM was appointed (I was in a minority in those days).

However, unless the new manager has an ego small enough to accommodate the Chairman's ego then there isn't enough room in our relatively small stadium to accommodate both.

One of the reasons I am convinced RM is still in post is down to his sycophantic utterances about the Chairman being the best in the world, which he has uttered along with his other tripe since he arrived at Goodison Park.

We need Simeone – we will get RM to remain or a lower level manager such as Howe – or if we are lucky De Boer/Bergkamp.

Eddie Dunn
94 Posted 25/04/2016 at 17:28:46
Koeman for me. He rebuilt the Saints side, after it had been torn apart, and they have done well this term.

He shows passion on pitchside, and makes bold substitutions. He was also a defender – we seem to have forgotten what defending is all about.

Jeff Armstrong
95 Posted 25/04/2016 at 17:31:26
De Boer, Bergkamp, Stam, all day long, 5 Dutch titles on the bounce.

I read an interview with Keown and Bergkamp in last week's Daily Mail, they play 4-3-3 with proper wingers but also view defensive duties (Stam) as equally important. I think they would be gettable but you would want at least Stam if not all three on the ticket.

Joseph Terrence
96 Posted 25/04/2016 at 18:37:20
As of right now there is a successful manager with plenty of premier league experience, leading his team to second place that is available. His name is Brendan Rodgers.

Think bigger. We aren't a Chelsea, Man City, ttc and we must take a calculated risk. De Boer for me

Keith Harrison
97 Posted 25/04/2016 at 18:46:02
Joseph, "leading his team to second place" ? Did you just step out of the shower with Bobby Ewing?
Dennis Ng
98 Posted 25/04/2016 at 19:16:14
Patrick 86, if we're to follow that trend, I prefer Howe or Karanka. But, here's to hope that Moshiri will break that trend finally.

Jeff 95, would love to see De Boer bring his coaching team over here but doubt that's going to happen. Whether he can adapt to the English game is another worry but my fear is that the paymasters not having the audacity to try something new.

Phil Davies
99 Posted 25/04/2016 at 19:17:14
Roger Schmidt at Bayer Leverkusen, good win percentage and some great players to bring with him, other than him the Ajax trio would be a dream.
Jeff Armstrong
100 Posted 25/04/2016 at 19:32:59
Nigel "you lookin at me" Pearson anyone? Almost HIS team are about to win the league, on a run going back to 10 games in his tenure.... just saying.

I'd still prefer the Ajax 3 as they are now known.

Richard Reeves
101 Posted 25/04/2016 at 19:38:01
Take all of the following off the list of possible candidates and i'ld be reasonably happy to ecstatic depending on who gets the job:

Rafael Benitez,
Guus Hiddink,
Andre Villas Boas,
Roberto Do Matteo,
Gary Neville,
Eddie Howe,
Sean Dyche.

My preferred choice is actually one of "The Attainable" according to this thread... Frank De Boer.

I don't see the weakness of the Eridivisie as a reason for him to be overlooked, particularly when he's won it four times in five years and has a win percentage ratio of 60%. He's an intelligent man who likes to play attractive attacking football and I'm sure he will command respect from the players because of what he has achieved and his personality.

If you check it out you will also see he has built a very young squad and I think this also makes him ideal for us as we have some very talented young players in the academy set-up. If we don't get him we might regret it as someone else will and it will probably be Southampton if we get Koeman.

Sid Logan
102 Posted 25/04/2016 at 20:21:06
Dismissing Simeone ignores the clout that Moshiri has in terms of both dosh and business acumen.

The most important thing is for Moshiri to ignore being told by Kenwright that he has an infallible way of picking Everton managers but on this occasion he will push the boat out and set his compass to draw a 60 mile radius from Goodison Park and see which manager that throws up.

Iain Latchford
103 Posted 25/04/2016 at 20:28:43
I agree with Jeff Armstrong. De Boer, Stam and Bergkamp all day long! Imagine them on the training ground with our players. Mouthwatering
They've got everything in place and just need to move their model to Everton.

Absolute no brainer for me. Whether it's possible is another thing. I fear they may hang on another year and take the Arsenal job.

Mike Hughes
104 Posted 25/04/2016 at 20:34:26
Ian #93

Mike - 88 If you think our Chairman will appoint a "Man bigger than the Club" then I'm afraid you are going to be disappointed.

I didn't state I thought our chairman would appoint such a manager.
I posted that it was what we needed (IMHO).
Big difference.

(And I've been disappointed for a long time as well!)

Colin Glassar
105 Posted 25/04/2016 at 20:36:04
There are some funny, and weird, choices on here so I'm going to have my tuppence worth. What about Big Dunc and Joey Barton?

Both are Evertonians and both of them would scare the shit out of any shirkers. Plus, Joey can speak French so he'd be able to talk to Rom, Kev and Niasse in their own lingo.

Paul Ellam
106 Posted 25/04/2016 at 20:38:45
DeBoer with Stam and Bergkamp sounds good to me.
(Covers defence and attack with those two coaches)
If not those, Emery or Koeman sound good.
Too early for Howe, we can go back for him in the future.
No way for the likes of Benitez or Moyes - both burned their bridges with us in my opinion and shouldn't be given a chance.
Nobody has mentioned the guy we were looking at around the same time as Martinez - Vitor Pereira.
He has done pretty well since we bypassed him. Better than Martinez anyway! Might be worth a look again?
Mike Hughes
107 Posted 25/04/2016 at 20:39:03
Colin
Sadly, both of them would scare the shit out of me as well.
Terrible idea.
Ian Jones
108 Posted 25/04/2016 at 20:39:36
Colin. What about Ralf Rangnick or popular Scot Stuart McCall. Weird enough for you. :)
Iain Latchford
109 Posted 25/04/2016 at 20:40:01
Colin, I'd rather have Big Ron and Joey from Friends. Have been on the disco biscuits this weekend??
Oliver Molloy
110 Posted 25/04/2016 at 20:40:20
In the words of a famous tennis player Colin

YOU CAN NOT BE SERIOUS !

Joe Clitherow
111 Posted 25/04/2016 at 20:44:03
Dennis 91

I get you don't want Moyes back, I don't think he is right for us either (although if it is a straight choice between him and Martinept it is absolutely no contest).

But however much your disdain, at least stick to facts to make the point.

"A yoyo manager who finally found some consistency in his 6th full season at the club"?? Get real please.

The club was on the bones of its arse and staring into oblivion when he was appointed. And
17-4-11-6-5-5-8-7-7-6-5 is neither yoyo (it's Top 6/7/8) or season 6 (4 by my reckoning) to stabilise and cut out the dross in the club on a fraction of nett spend of the current clown. It is also a bit disingenuous to say he had money to spend at Manure too as you couldn’t really say he was there long enough, and they didn't trust him with a fraction of what they have given Burt from Sesame Street.

I get you don't like him, and some of the other things you correctly point out have soured things badly for most of us I guess, but don't invent things to make him the devil incarnate. Given the circumstances he inherited the guy did a great job for us and left a fantastic platform to push on from with the additional funds available.

...which the current daft fucker has pissed right up against the wall.

Darren Hind
112 Posted 25/04/2016 at 20:46:17
A good article covering all bases Lyndon.

Selecting a new manager is like selecting a new telly these days, there are simly thousands to choose from.

I tend to agree with Ken Buckley, there is always a gamble and you cant know if you have the right guy until he has spent some time doing the job.

I read somewhere that Simeone is on about 4.5 net, he would want more than that to upsticks and come here and his club would want major compo.

Too big a gamble, he may be a good manager, but we need a good fit

Colin Glassar
113 Posted 25/04/2016 at 20:48:24
Ok, I withdraw my nominees but I think Joey and Duncan could be our own dream team, and they'd come cheap.
Amit Vithlani
114 Posted 25/04/2016 at 20:50:19
Colin. Tommy Grav and Marco Matterazzi. Insane in the brain, insane in the membrane...
Amit Vithlani
115 Posted 25/04/2016 at 20:50:22
Colin. Tommy Grav and Marco Matterazzi. Insane in the brain, insane in the membrane...
Martin Mason
116 Posted 25/04/2016 at 20:50:44
I agree that Moyes did a great job considering the circumstances he faced when he joined and the low budgets that he had to operate under. When we look back at this period we may see that the BK/DM era was when the club arrested it's descent and started to improve.
Eric Holland
117 Posted 25/04/2016 at 20:52:48
El Loco I think they call him!!
Superb tactician and likes his players to be fit and press hard.
This clip of him shows what we need in our dressing room and at Finch farm...https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NLA7qPPgGso
Oliver Molloy
118 Posted 25/04/2016 at 20:55:58
Who was Moyes best signing ..?
Who has Martinez best signing been ?
Iain Latchford
119 Posted 25/04/2016 at 20:56:19
Simeone a gamble??? He's already won La Liga and might be about to win it again. He's in the semi final of the Champions League after knocking Barca out over two games and that's a gamble??

No way in a million years he's coming. Have you been out with Colin this weekend??

Brian Harrison
120 Posted 25/04/2016 at 20:57:23
RM reckons that the silent majority are behind him and its only a small minority of fans who want him out. So before we discuss who are next manager is going to be, I think we have to make it very clear to BK and FM that the majority of match going fans don't want him. So whatever it takes on Saturday that has to be our priority.
The thought of this charlatan being in charge next season is the nightmare scenario that only the cruelest would think was a possibility.
Mike Hughes
121 Posted 25/04/2016 at 21:00:28
Colin / Amit ...
if this progresses much further it won't be long until Jason Vorhees and Michael Myers are suggested.
(For the record I doubt either could manage at the very top - lower leagues maybe - but we have enough soft tissue injury problems at present).
Colin Glassar
122 Posted 25/04/2016 at 21:01:08
Amit, we need people who think out of the box, hence my nomination of Big Dunc and Joey. Both are students of the game and deep thinkers.

Grav and Mazz could bring in some interesting ideas to improve our tactical thinking but Tommy Grav would have to be released first, I think.

I'd also like Martinez to stay on as chief scout. He may have failed as a manager but he's got a good eye for talent (except maybe, Niasse) and he could advise the new boys until they get their feet under the table.

I think we need to be bold this time and a Dunc-Joey- Grav - Mazz team would confuse the hell out of our opponents and keep our lads in line. I know for a fact, Jags would never be caught smiling in the tunnel ever again.

Michael Penley
123 Posted 25/04/2016 at 21:03:12
Colin, Big Dunc a 'deep thinker'? I've heard it all now.
Henrik Lyngsie
125 Posted 25/04/2016 at 21:07:19
Tommy Grav is in Vegas. Lost in Vegas
Brian Harrison
126 Posted 25/04/2016 at 21:09:53
Colin
If this is you thinking outside the box then I suggest that your carers put you back inside the box, and lets hope they put you in some restraining outfit.
I thought you were just winding us up at first, but then remembered you stood by this lunatic RM right up to a few weeks back.

I

Mike Hughes
127 Posted 25/04/2016 at 21:12:04
Michael #123 - I didn't read that far. I gave up at 'we need people who think out of the box hence my nomination of Big Dunc and Joey'.

Jim Bailey
128 Posted 25/04/2016 at 21:15:10
Colin, bloody hell.
I think that would confuse the hell out of anyone. As for Martinez staying on in any capacity, no thanks.
Sid Logan
130 Posted 25/04/2016 at 21:36:34
Colin,

I can only think you're being controversial to stimulate debate.

If you're serious you need to be put on suicide watch along with me if Martinez stays!

Mike Hughes
131 Posted 25/04/2016 at 21:48:00
Sid #130 - don't encourage this any further please.
(It'll be Darth Vader and the exhumed corpse of Jimmy Savile next the way this is going.) Best move on.

Jay Wood
132 Posted 25/04/2016 at 21:51:44
I have to believe Colin is being a wee bit mischievious here.

However, if he is being serious ...

Everybody move V-E-R-Y S-L-O-W-L-Y towards the exit, keeping your eyes on Colin and any sudden movement all the time ...

Aidy Dews
133 Posted 25/04/2016 at 21:59:50
de Boer would be my first choice. He's done an excellent job at Ajax, they play great football, got a great work ethic and close down like a lot of your top European teams do these days, and he likes to bring the youngsters through aswell which we do.

If not him then Pellegrini for me. Forget what he's done at City, forget what he did at Real Madrid, but just look at what he did at both Villarreal & Malaga. The job at Villarreal was unreal but the Malaga one I see similarities with us, or possible similarities.

They were a team just plodding along in la liga then all of a sudden got investment. At the start of the very next season, they appointed Pellegrini, give him a bit of cash to spend and in that first season he got the unfancied Malaga into the champions league!

Now the jobs he's done at both Villarreal & Malaga show that he's capable of building good sides and making them competitive, and the fact he's already managed in the prem and knows the league, lives in the north west, makes him an ideal candidate definitely.

Adam Smith
134 Posted 25/04/2016 at 22:02:36
Mourinho. We desperately need to change the perception of Everton from 'plucky little, knife to a gunfight, nice guys Everton' to 'utter bastards who win all the time and are a fucking nightmare to play Everton'.

Like him or loathe him, Mourinho will do this and accelerate us to where we want to be. I'm sick of small time methods and appointments - the club need to at least start thinking of themselves as a big club; God knows, no other bugger will do it for us!

Colin Glassar
137 Posted 25/04/2016 at 22:48:57
There's no chance we will get Mourinho now Adam, he's off to the red mancs to rekindle his feud with Guardiola. But I agree with you about going for an aggressive, in your face, bums off the seats type manager.

My preferred choice would be Simeone. He'd drive everyone mad with his drive and touchline antics. We won't get him though so we will have to settle for some Dutch kool I think eg De Boer or Koeman.

Mo Barkoli
138 Posted 25/04/2016 at 23:08:07
Guys, we do not want a manager who has been sacked twice in his last two jobs... David Moyes.
Adam Smith
140 Posted 25/04/2016 at 23:25:39
It's definitely a ridiculous long-shot Colin, but I for one am sick of following a team who never dream big. What's the point in football if you don't at least try to aim for the top?

It made me laugh that the shite thought they could get Klopp, when they weren't in the Champions League and were imploding, plus had a shit squad. And you know what? Hate them as I do, they NEVER consider themselves a small-time club and that is why they so often scrape through impossible games and why they now have one of the best managers in world football.

We have some money now, not City style riches, but combined with the bumper TV deal, we definitely can invest in the playing squad like never before. That should give us a chance to fish in a bigger pond manager-wise. If we approach Mourinho and he laughs at us and tells us we are deluded and that he only has eyes for Man Utd, then that allows me to just think he's a nobhead. I'm sick and tired of thinking my club is run by nobheads with no vision. They owe it to us to at least start acting like they're a big club. You never know, thinking that way may allow us to one day actually become one again!

Lorcan Walsh
141 Posted 25/04/2016 at 23:26:49
Slaven Bilic ? or has he blotted his copybook ???

Bilic together with Unsworth or Sheedy.

We'll do well to see any more points on the board this campaign... good job it's not a few games longer..

Anthony Dwyer
142 Posted 25/04/2016 at 23:35:18
This season is one of the best for manager availability, if we can't attract a top boss now then we might aswel give up.

Eddie Howe, Duncan Ferguson, Dyche, Weir, Stubbs etc.... You can't be serious.

Ronald De Boer, Michael Laudrup, Ronald Keoman, Jose Mourinho and Guus Hiddink are all huge mangers with good attributes to move us back to were we need to be.

I no many people will disagree, but Moyes is also a sensible choice, although I'd pick all of the above before him.

Nicholas Ryan
143 Posted 25/04/2016 at 23:59:01
Lyndon, you pose a dozen questions, but no answer! Who is your choice, as someone who is good enough, likely to be available, and likely to want to come?
Anto Byrne
146 Posted 26/04/2016 at 05:29:14
Arsene Wenger would be a great appointment, and as we know has an association with Moshiri. At 64, it's not that old in today's world and we tried to be the Arsenal of the north playing decent football.

If we keep Martinez, we need a director of football, someone that will be influential in ensuring player fitness levels and the style of play.

We saw on Saturday that the team has it in it to perform at the top level but we are too inconsistent and that is down to team selection and tactics.

Under Moyes, we knew what to expect and it wasn't always pretty but we were hard to beat and he did chalk up his fair share of draws, blatantly shutting up shop with 20 minutes to go to secure a point.

Nicky Styles
147 Posted 26/04/2016 at 08:58:34
Liam 72, I would like to see him with money at a club where he has control over the dressing room (assuming that would be the case). At Man Utd the players never really bought into his ethos and, along with errors made by himself on and off the pitch, it was a disappointing tenure in the extreme.
However, I think he genuinely could take us forward and get the best out of the team.
Admittedly I do agree with you reg. Anfield, Chelsea and Old Trafford.

Better the devil you know for me. For the moment I would like the club to show decisiveness by sacking Martinez and appointing Ferguson until the end of the season.

Does anyone know if the two candidates - the German and the Portuguese - that interviewed for the job after DM's departure are available?

Phil Walling
148 Posted 26/04/2016 at 09:09:09
I note that Martinez is now appearing on the bookies' list to take the Villa job - albeit at an initial 25-1.

Seems they really do think his time here is up !

Eric Myles
149 Posted 26/04/2016 at 09:12:51
Agreed Nicky (#147) we could do a lot worse that have OFM back, he'd stabilize the defence in the short term, but I think we could do a lot better taking a long term view.
Phil Walling
150 Posted 26/04/2016 at 09:20:12
Late reading of Colin's suggestions requires me to put in yet another plug for those doyens of the managerial profession, Roley Howard and Jimmy Davies. They MUST have learned how to do the job in their combined 100 years at the helm. And they are both local, too !
Shane Corcoran
151 Posted 26/04/2016 at 09:52:55
I have to say I'm not enamoured with any of those available.

If I had a choice it'd be Simeone but that's never going to happen.

De Boer has managed in Holland and as Lyndon pointed out, McLaren won the league there. His playing careers makes no difference.

I'd hate to see Mourinho near the club and I think Pelligirini is tactically suspect, although I'd like his personality at the club.

Koeman might be a good bet but I'm far from convinced.

Bielsa and Emery both seem to rub players up the wrong way.

Looking through the Paddy Power betting doesn't inspire me either. The only one that sticks out for me is Rijkaard but then I'm wondering why he hasn't been successful or in demand since he left the Nou Camp.

Fran Mitchell
152 Posted 26/04/2016 at 09:57:51
Generally, the idea of a short-term manager is scorned upon. We still have the concept of a manager to will stay for years and build a 'legacy'. This leads a temptation to go for younger, next best thing managers.

Yet, most top clubs change their managers quite regularly. While many view this as negative, I feel it is an inevitable element of modern football.

So no more '5 year plans'. We need a manager with a one and two year plan, then we assess.

There is nothing wrong if the manager we get comes for 2 seasons, improves our lot then is replaced by a better manager.

Bielsa for me ticks all the boxes. Roma's former manager Rudi Garcia also. de Boer also seems possible. I expect Koeman is unattainable.

Simeone is dreamland.

Dave Long
153 Posted 26/04/2016 at 10:09:49
Colin, how about big Nev and Pat van den Hauwe till the end of season to get the Goodison mojo back?
Tihomir Anchev
154 Posted 26/04/2016 at 11:02:05
If we are looking for a Klopp type "Jocelyn Gourvennec, the French Klopp looking for his own Dortmund"... or maybe some "old school EU manager" like Marcello Romeo Lippi.
Les Martin
155 Posted 26/04/2016 at 11:56:01
Big names from outside don't guarantee success in the Premier League, as no other league is like it.

We firstly need someone who can "man-manage" and motivate. Who is fully conversant with fitness programmes and the requirements of the Premier League. Who can organise the team in different areas on the pitch, so everyone knows their roles, and what is required. To be tactically aware, have a Plan Z, and react to the opposition's changes of tactics. And finally, be able to attract the right players to fill the right holes.

Leicester have proved that you don't need mega-fee superstars to be successful if the above criteria is met.

Terry Underwood
156 Posted 26/04/2016 at 13:16:46
Many of the names mooted so far carry one big question... would they want to come here?

I'm gonna name someone who is not flashy, we don't need flashy... he is steady, we need steady. He has Premier League experience and would steady what is in danger of becoming a sinking ship. Don't expect it to be popular, but this is a discussion, I don't make the appointment.....

Ready? Sam Allyardyce.....

As I said, steady, maybe even boring, but he understands the English game and I honestly believe his no-nonsense, down-to-earth approach could work a miracle on Stones and Barkley.

Mark Stone
157 Posted 26/04/2016 at 13:35:23
Anyone other than Martinez, literally anyone.
Colin Malone
159 Posted 26/04/2016 at 14:12:35
Is it due to Martinez that we are now seeing homegrown talent coming from the youth system? Employing Ebbrell, Big Joe etc, If it is, it's a big plus for him. So I would get rid of Jones and get Andy Gray or Peter Reid as Number Two.

If we get rid, I would go for Mr Passionate, Martin O'Neill.

David Williams
160 Posted 26/04/2016 at 18:51:10
As one lad in the Torch outside Wembley kept saying on Saturday,

" Call Jose Tonight"

Gets my vote

Michael McCarthy
161 Posted 26/04/2016 at 20:57:55
Big Sam.....not heard his name mentioned
Andy Crooks
163 Posted 26/04/2016 at 21:18:15
If the choice was, and it may well be, keep Martinez, whom Kenwright loves, or bring back Moyes, whom Kenwright really loves, who would it be?

I suspect these are the options. Now, I bowed to no one in my disdain for Moyes but,I would have him back if it meant the end of Martinez. Believe me, that took some saying.

This is about Kenwright and what goes on in his head. He can only sack the man he appointed by appointing the man he indulgently set free. The return of Moyes, in the mind of mad Bill, is the only option that can see him be right, right and right again.

We let him go and took a monumentally brave choice. It didn't work and I am enough of a blue to admit I got it wrong. So, I will revert to my last great choice. Let's begin where we left off.

Tony Williams
164 Posted 26/04/2016 at 21:21:41
EDDIE HOWE, he is an Everton fan.

Ever Blue
Ever True
EVERTON.

Jim Williams
165 Posted 26/04/2016 at 21:24:34
The only success we have ever had in my lifetime the past 64 years . is when we were managed by Evertonians Harry, Howard and Joe. Only Evertonians know what makes the club tick the importance of beating the RS and how we the supporters would give our eye teeth.. and more for our club. Where is that Evertonian to manage us now? Joe is maybe too old to do it by himself but he would be a steady partner for a younger coach.

I remember Joe Mercer and what he did at City . maybe Joe Royle could do the same with an Evertonian Malcolm Allison maybe Sheeds, maybe Dunc or Alan Stubbs If we really are "The People's Club" let's keep it in the family and be different from the rest do it our way the Everton way.
Tony Williams
167 Posted 26/04/2016 at 21:31:18
Not Mourinho. he is despicable, look at the way he treated Eva Carneiro at Chelsea, not even man enough to even apologise.. We don't want that type of person at Goodison.
Anthony Jones
168 Posted 26/04/2016 at 22:29:51
Martinez will get one more season. Kenwright allowed Moshiri to become majority shareholder so he would be allowed to maintain the current plan.

Though I could never follow a Mou, Moyes, or Beni club.
John Aldridge
169 Posted 26/04/2016 at 22:33:15
If that choice had to be made (Martinez or Moyes) I'd begrudgingly choose Moyes - Martinez has lost the dressing room and he's not getting it back. His training methods are hopeless (look how unfit the squad is), and the players have their minds so full of shit instructions they don't appear to know what they're doing. Having said that, I want neither of them.

Dreamland would be Simone - but lets face it that's about as likely as a lottery win. My first choice would be AvB - young, did well at Spurs and he's got a point to prove in the Prem. Further down the list would be Mourinho, Pellegrini and DeBoer. I'd be happy with any of the above - just want Martinez as far away from Goodison as possible.

Stephen Scofield
170 Posted 26/04/2016 at 23:30:32
Moyes, Pellegrini or Mourinho for me. Preferably the latter.
Julian Wait
171 Posted 26/04/2016 at 23:37:44
To be clear, not one I want, but what about the other Jürgen K.? He's been rumored already.
John Crawley
172 Posted 26/04/2016 at 00:16:45
Emery would be my first choice (De Boer my second choice). Although he's only 44 he's been a manager for 10 years. His first job was with Lorca who he got promoted to Spanish 2nd division for their first time ever, then got them a record points total the following year missing out on promotion by 5 points. He then moved to Almeira got them promoted for the first time to the 1st division.

He then got the Valencia job at time they were in financial problems, got them to sixth despite this, then next three years finished third in league. Then the job in Russia which didn't work out, even though he won more games than he lost.

With Sevilla two fifth place finishes and two Europa league wins. He's always had to sell his best players at Valencia and Sevilla. He's worked with some cracking players in David Silva, Juan Mata, David Villa amongst others. He's a very good manager.

Interesting article on him here http://www.theguardian.com/football/2015/may/27/sevilla-manager-europa-league-final-unai-emery

Jim Hardin
173 Posted 27/04/2016 at 00:38:34
John Crawley

I too thought of Emery as a possibility on another thread. There are rumors that he is unhappy with the finances of the club and never being able to really compete for first place. The only unhappy player would be DelBoy as Emery is the one who publicly scolded him.

Andy Walker
177 Posted 27/04/2016 at 07:48:35
Er, since when did Moshiri become the 'majority shareholder'? Did I miss something?

Roger Helm
178 Posted 27/04/2016 at 08:00:54
Latest odds at William Hill
4 David Moyes
7 Eddie Howe
10 Marco Bielsa
16 AVB
16 Ronald Koeman

Or you could have 100/1 on Steven Gerrard!

Colin Glassar
179 Posted 27/04/2016 at 08:05:25
ABM, work it out.
Darren Bailey
180 Posted 27/04/2016 at 09:32:43
I'm not sold on Pellegrini to be honest. He didn't have great things to say about our club earlier in the season if I remember rightly, wasn't very gracious in victory over us in the Carling Cup semi and hasn't got, what is, a very good bunch of players playing as a team at Citeh. Part of what our problem is as well. Defensively he's suspect and doesn't give that wow factor for me. Sorry but Pellegrini's a no for me.
The same goes for Bielsa, don't fancy him. Doesn't speak English and has a temperament.
With Mourinho pretty much holding out for the Utd job and with £300m to spend there he won't come to us.
For me it has to be, in this order:-
De Boer-with his start studded backroom staff and half the Ajax team, Perfect fit, love this idea.
Mourinho-obviously would be a statement, long shot but you never know, could nip in there in front Utd if they pull their finger out.
Koeman-if he could be tempted away from Southampton.
Emery-DelBoy wouldn't be best pleased, strong manager though who can build a great team hard to beat.
Favre-good pedigree who could build a good young squad. Free agent as well.
Jonathan Morgan
181 Posted 27/04/2016 at 09:50:12
Frank De Boer all day long for me! How can people say his playing background doesn't count?? He played for the biggest club in the world, has over 100 international caps so surly knows what it's like to win and deal with expectations.

He would command respect from the players with his playing career alone. Martinez and his staff don't have a baseball cap between them. Plus he's at Ajax, a club renowned for its academy. A massive plus for Everton.

And people suggesting Moyes with money to spend ½ what a scary thought! Surly these people need a serious look in the mirror at themselves!
Frank De Boer......

Andy Walker
182 Posted 27/04/2016 at 09:52:04
Can you imagine TW if Moyes is appointed!
James Marshall
183 Posted 27/04/2016 at 10:22:53
All the small-time up & comers would be a bad idea IMO. We need a name-manager.

Emery is known as a harsh disciplinarian and I don't think that suits us here. Bielsa doesn't speak English, so I don't like that idea either.

De Boer? Well he's a big name, but inexperienced and doesn't know the PL. That said, Staam knows the division so could be a decent backroom setup as well.

Simeone, Mancini, Mourinho et al? Pie in the sky.

Koeman? He'll stay at Southampton or go back to Europe is my guess.

Pellegrini is a decent shout, but I have a feeling he'll be off to Spain (although he has said he likes it here so you never know).

You can stick in a pin in that lot and choose one to be honest - who knows what goes on in the heads (and wallets) of directors at Everton. We'll probably end up with Eddie Howe, given our previous small-time mentality, but I hope that culture is removed ASAP by Moshiri and his representatives and they make a bold statement by getting in a big name, and quality motivator and tactician.

Tony Draper
184 Posted 27/04/2016 at 12:00:38
Colin @179, YEP ! Spot on ! Could not possibly agree more.

Now in terms of the debate, I'm seriously favouring De Boer, Stam, & Bergkamp as the new crew.

Class.
Have plenty of EPL understanding.
Cover ALL the tactical essentials.
Proven record as a cohesive backroom.

We do need to remember that:
Everton IS a BIG club
With an enhanced EPL budget
With a BIG Managers salary + success bonuses
With a very tasty squad
With new thinking at boardroom level
With a devoted following

What ambitious, successful European manager and crew wouldn't want a piece of that tasty looking pie ?


Those are the reasons why we really don't need to squander time upon "lesser mortals", and instead bring in some serious fucker's who will scare the shit out of the rest of the EPL.

No:
X-Factor contestants
Has beens
MK II failures
Steady hands
"Open All Hours" scale of gratitude for continuance

Get serious, 'cos the opposition already is !

Terry Underwood
185 Posted 27/04/2016 at 13:47:22
Having read all the comments, one thing is certain: opinion will be polarized into love him or hate him camps. One post did make me chuckle... Stevie "DJ puncher" Asswipe. not sure where the biggest howls would come from... blue or red.
Dennis Ng
186 Posted 27/04/2016 at 14:20:11
James, harsh discipline is what the team needs right now, so Emery is the perfect candidate. De Boer and Koeman would be my next options, however little experience they have compared to others. Pellegrini is the most attainable but short term solution at best.
Gordon Crawford
187 Posted 27/04/2016 at 14:34:16
Tom Cruise, Brad and Angelina maybe.

In all seriousness, I just want a winner. Someone who has succeeded at a big club.

Tim Wardrop
188 Posted 27/04/2016 at 14:39:37
Bielsa for me. It might only be short-term, but what a ride it would be. Guarantee there wouldn't be a dull moment
Julian Wait
189 Posted 27/04/2016 at 16:47:45
My Chilean friend has told me that Bielsa wouldn't come to a club that wasn't "socialist" enough. I don't know whether we would qualify (fans, Andy Turnham) or not (new owner).

Interesting perspective either way.

Peter Gorman
190 Posted 27/04/2016 at 16:49:54
We are run by a deluded dictator, Julian - surely that could count as socialist enough.
Jay Harris
191 Posted 27/04/2016 at 16:55:24
Totally agree with Darren Bailey although Pellegrini is down to evens in Skybet and Martinez is 1/7 not to be manager next season.

Will Bill manage another smoke and mirrors routine or will commonsense prevail.

All will be revealed in the coming weeks.

Geoff Williams
192 Posted 27/04/2016 at 16:56:52
Anyone, just someone who isn't Martinez or Moyes
Trevor Peers
193 Posted 27/04/2016 at 17:10:10
Someone who is utterly ruthless is the answer.
Let's sweep this 'Everton way' notion into history, when Kendall won all those cups we we're ruthless.
Kenwright fosters this delusion of keeping manager's for10 years no matter what the results.
It's 'Kenwrights Way' not Everton's .

Mike Berry
195 Posted 27/04/2016 at 18:28:50
Would have Diego Simone. Mad as a box of Frogs, BUT his teams know how to defend and attack
Frank Crewe
197 Posted 27/04/2016 at 19:49:34
Don't want Eddie Howe. Don't want Sean Dyche. We've already had the ex-manager of Preston North End and the ex-manager of Wigan Athletic. Don't need the ex manager of Bournemouth or Burnley. No more half measures. No more young managers with "potential". We have had enough of these for decades and we've gotten exactly nowhere. Instead of looking at managers from 2nd rate clubs smaller than us looking to step up let's look at managers from 1st rate clubs that are bigger than us, and don't kid yourselves there are plenty of clubs bigger than Everton these days.

The RS bit the bullet when they got rid of their own Martinez, Brendan Rodgers, and appointed Klopp. We have to do the same. The next man has to be a marquee name. Someone with a proven record of success who won't accept mediocrity. A name known from one end of the football world to the other.

If we have cash to splash then we need the man who knows how to attract the kind of players we need to get this club back on its feet. We can't offer CL. We can't offer a giant modern ground. We can't offer a squad full of world class players and they won't sign for the ambience. All we can offer is a top manager with a plan to put a, not so much sleeping as in a coma, giant back on top and hope they'll want to be part of helping it to happen.

Iain Latchford
198 Posted 27/04/2016 at 21:00:41
Why is Koeman so fancied? Southampton are 8th and have lost 11 games. The same as us.
Tony Doran
199 Posted 27/04/2016 at 23:08:36
Not sure for manager but should deffo get Tim Cahill back asap just to install some balls.
Tony Byrne
200 Posted 28/04/2016 at 02:53:20
Back page of today's edition of the Mirror will report that Everton are considering Mark Hughes.
Derek Thomas
201 Posted 28/04/2016 at 03:08:52
It will be somebody off the 'A List', the only question, how far down this list will it be.

The announcement regards departures should be made as soon as possible though... it's doing us no favours if it isn't.

Stephen Davies
202 Posted 28/04/2016 at 03:29:53
Frank 197
Nail on head.

We need someone who will grab this club by the scruff of the neck and drag it to where it should be.

At the very least we should be challenging for every bit of silverware going. We need a winner. LFC got it right eventually. We have to have the same mentality .

They are out there... We need to chose correctly. Mediocrity is not an option.

Jamie Crowley
203 Posted 28/04/2016 at 03:46:58
If it's Mark Hughes I'm joining Jim Hardin on the ledge.

What a fucking horrific downer that would be!

Kenn Crawford
204 Posted 28/04/2016 at 04:00:56
I think I posted this somewhere before but what about.

RUUD GUILLIT.
or Laurent Blanc anyoe other than Martinez or Moyes AAAARRRRGGGHHH.

Nick Entwistle
205 Posted 28/04/2016 at 04:13:03
Mark Hughes. No. Besides, he's got a fine set up at Stoke. I don't think he needs to go to Everton. After all, there are more CL winners at Stoke than there are in the top 6... I guess bench warmers count.
Phil Sammon
206 Posted 28/04/2016 at 04:17:28
If it's Mark Hughes I might have to take a sabbatical from football. I honestly can't stand the man. And that's before we even discuss his failings as a manager. Next rumour please.
Michael Penley
207 Posted 28/04/2016 at 04:22:38
Simeone is exactly what we need – the antithesis of Martinez. Did anyone see what he did on the weekend? Telling a ballboy to throw a ball on the pitch to stop an attack. He was then sent to the stands and said after the game the ref was right to do so.

Yes, it's asinine behaviour but it's also passionate and brutally honest. It shows he'd do anything for the team. Meanwhile we have a manager who not only does nothing, he squirms his way out of any blame in the post-match interview.

Of course, Kenwright would never hire him or anyone like him, because he's not a "nice man".

Ron Marr
208 Posted 28/04/2016 at 06:43:59
Mark Hughes? Replace crap with mediocre? Why buy the team? Sounds like a BK leak. Get that taxi for BK!
Chern Lee
209 Posted 28/04/2016 at 07:04:23
How about Phillip Cocu from PSV ? He's done a decent job there and they almost knocked Atletico out of this year's Champs League.
Kieran Fitzgerald
210 Posted 28/04/2016 at 07:15:49
Eric @149 has it right about Moyes. He would be ideal in the short term. As a quick fix he would be great. I had initially been in favour of getting him back but it would end up being a knee jerk reaction to the state we are in now. If we are going to replace Martinez then think De Boer, think Hiddink. As for Mark Hughes no way. He just happened to be the manager in situ at city when things took off there. He has never had a sniff of a really big club.
Mark Pierpoint
211 Posted 28/04/2016 at 07:24:58
Not against Hughes in the equation. He is not the most exciting of names, no. He does have a good reputation as a player, he has taken Stoke to the next level and he does play attractive football. Disciplinarian and has done well in the transfer market with Stoke.

Wouldn't be a top choice, but I don't see a reason why he should not be talked about. Take away any prejudice and he actually meets a criteria most would look for: Tactically good, respected in game, experienced in premiership.

Patrick Murphy
212 Posted 28/04/2016 at 08:15:19
Personally I wouldn't be over the moon with the appointment of Mark Hughes, but he has managed in the top-flight for a long time and has experience of playing at the highest level of the game which is a distinct advantage on most of our previous bosses. I can't see Stoke rolling over and therefore it might cost a few bob to prise him away and would he want the job? If he did come could he or would he be such an improvement on David Moyes? A safe if uninspiring choice in my book, but very Everton in its way.
Alan J Thompson
213 Posted 28/04/2016 at 09:58:40
Jay Harris(#191); 1/7 Martinez getting the sack from Everton? It's a one horse race, isn't it.
Phil Walling
214 Posted 28/04/2016 at 10:09:36
7/5 against him being our manager on the first day of next season. His presser this moment showed acknowledgement that 'adjustments need to be made' and he is prepared to make them. No mention of meeting the Board and I still lean towards the belief he will need to get 8/9 points from the remaining games to survive.

He may 'have lost' one or two players but I'm sure there's no massive player revolt against him. It's just that some of them aren't as good as they are made out to be.

Liam Reilly
215 Posted 28/04/2016 at 10:14:40
And Jesus wept when he saw the quality of the candidates being put forward by the press to replace Martinez: Hughes, Howe and Moyes. Sigh!

How low can this football club sink; if you never shoot for the stars, you're never going to get there.

Phil Walling
216 Posted 28/04/2016 at 10:23:30
Liam, I tend to agree but those 'nominations' reflect the general belief of the press that BK will appoint any replacement for Roberto and they all know it's only with Jenny that he ever shops at Harrods.
John James
217 Posted 28/04/2016 at 11:07:33
The prospects don't look good again.... Pellegrini, Stubbs, Mancini, Howe...etc, Hiddink would be the BEST for Everton. Mourinho would want to buy stars, and buys his success – too much money for so-called 'cash strapped' Everton.

Howe is not going to take us forward, he is still learning his trade. The rest are 'also rans'.

I can see Kenwright going for Moyes again, or Hughes.

This appointment WILL DEFINE EFC versus the rest (and the RS) going forward into another generation. We need a marque manager and someone with knowledge and charisma too woo the media.

Mark Stone
218 Posted 28/04/2016 at 11:20:31
Paddy Power have Carragher at 16/1, comedians
Ray Jacques
219 Posted 28/04/2016 at 11:25:46
Stoke have conceded 4 in their last three games.

Mark Hughes is perfect for us so as the good work of the present regime can continue.
They did manage to score at Anfield which I suppose is a bonus.

Dear me, have we sunk to such a low in ambition.

Vince Furnier
220 Posted 28/04/2016 at 12:18:01
Well if it did indeed turn out to be Mark Hughes, we would all have such low expectations of the appointment, he could hardly fail!
Stuart Mitchell
221 Posted 28/04/2016 at 12:27:56
Lucien Favre for me, Just chucked a fiver on him to be next boss.

Pressing, fast counter attacking football. Develops young players also.

Not currently employed.

Nick Entwistle
222 Posted 28/04/2016 at 14:23:21
Kieran, why would Moyes be considered short term? Its not like we're a sacking club!

I don't know if it would be a good idea to have him back. He wouldn't fail as such, like we are now. People say he took the club as far as he could. I disagree, he took the budget as far as he could - and with or without Moshiri are different now.

Hitting top four or repeating 6th/7th, his appointment would be as lazy as bringing in Martinez.

Ian Hanes
223 Posted 28/04/2016 at 15:04:42
Unless something quite extraordinary happens in the next few weeks (which you can never tell with Everton] we should welcoming a brand new manager for the start of the 2016-17 season. Like many supporters I've scrolled down the list of potential ‘new' managers and with hand on heart not one of them truly excites me – although any of them would be an improvement on our current predicament. So why not Joe Royle?

Admittedly Joe would not be a ‘youthful' candidate or one which would excite the media in the way a Mourinho or a Moyes might do. The analogy that I would make by appointing Joe would be the appointment of Bobby Robson as Newcastle Manager in 1999. At the time Robson was 66 years old [a year younger than Joe] and believe it or not they were in a worse position than us at the bottom of the premier league. Robson's feel good factor and ability to get the best out of veteran players and spot young talent saw a swift turn around in the Magpies fortunes and the following season they finished in third spot.

The appointment of Joe on a two possibly three year contract with an old hand such as Alan Irvine working with him might just do the trick. Joe is a true blue, a legend of the club and he would be welcomed by everyone at Goodison. He is already working with the young players and he would therefore hit the ground running.

Wenger is 66, Ranieri is 64 and Joe remains a ‘youthful ‘pensioner at 67. Admittedly in different times he brought Barmby, Kanchelskis and Speed to the club and we won silverware. Tactically astute and with an eye for talent I'm convinced that he would invest the ‘new' wealth at our disposal wisely and build a successful team.

The succession model does not appear to be working at Man Utd but that is partly because they appointed a manager with no real grasp of what it means to manage the club. Van Gaal has never bought in to the culture of Manchester United and United fans are wary of Giggs's potential as a future manager. Those concerns would not appear to be true at Everton should Joe be appointed. Joe lives and breathes Everton Football Club and both Unsworth and Sheedy have shown managerial potential with the U21s.

So just maybe the former manager we should be looking at is not Moyes but Joe Royle – a true Evertonian.
Iain Latchford
224 Posted 28/04/2016 at 16:51:05
Ian, so you'd rather have Joe Royle than Frank de Boer, along with his backroom staff of Bergkamp and Stam?

Why everyone isn't crying out for this is beyond me. It's the best option by a country mile as far as I can see.

Jimmi James
225 Posted 28/04/2016 at 17:02:48
Dear God boys, Simeone, pellegrini, Hiddink, Mourinho, thats just 4 of the names I have seen mentioned here, we just have to get real. The likes of those would never come to Everton while we are so far down the table and without european football, its just never going to happen. Ive seen Mark Hughes mentioned and while I would be totally against him I believe he is the standard we can expect realistically.
Our history and support decrees that we are a big club, the reality is that the top managers just don't consider us one of the big boys, sorry lads we can expect a Hughes, Moyes type, Howe, Dyche, sodding hell Ive just realised Paul Lambert will be out of work soon. Is this really the end? So come on lads who do you Realistically think would come here. Keep it sensible eh.
Eric Holland
227 Posted 28/04/2016 at 17:08:01
Jimmi The bookies are usually a good bet for being on the mark.

http://www.oddschecker.com/football/football-specials/Everton/next-permanent-manager

Dennis Ng
228 Posted 28/04/2016 at 17:19:52
Rudi Garcia seems to be a forgotten man
Jay Wood
229 Posted 28/04/2016 at 17:22:29
Jimmi @ 225.

What does all this manager speculation matter to you?

Aren't you the one with the mate on the inside, repeatedly telling us RM is going nowhere?

Andrew Clare
230 Posted 28/04/2016 at 17:32:15
La Liga is the best league in the world with Spanish teams featuring in the semi-finals and finals of the major European tournaments nearly every year. With that in mind it makes sense to recruit a manager from Spain not Mark Hughes or managers of his ilk for God's sake. We want a winner not an also ran.
David Sheen
231 Posted 28/04/2016 at 18:24:28
Mannel Pellegrini HAS to be the most likely to manage Everton if Martinez goes. He is already settled in the north west and he is leaving this year. He's managed big players at Man City, Real Madrid, and exceeded expectations at Malaga and Villareal on a limited budget.
Mark Hampson
232 Posted 28/04/2016 at 19:35:45
At this point in our HISTORY with the new investor, a big name is required to match the ambition. I propose Simione, in three years we will not only have Champions league football but be pushing for the title!!!
Jimmi James
233 Posted 28/04/2016 at 20:59:24
Jay #229
Yes mate the very same and he has never steered me wrong but as I pointed out its not something I want, like the rest of you here I want him gone. Bit of a cheeky dig, lad wasn't it?of course it matters to me as much as anyone. Been a supporter for over 50 years so yes it matters a great deal.

I will be one of the first to do a little dance when RM is moved on if he is. So because I think one thing means I shouldn't care about others? Behave!

Jay Wood
234 Posted 28/04/2016 at 21:31:26
Not a 'cheeky dig' at all, Jimmi. It's a genuine post.

You repeat again your source has never 'steered you wrong,' so if he is bang on the money this game of 'pick the manager' is a futile one.

It won't stop people playing the game of course and I haven't said they should.

You, by contrast, even though you've repeatedly told us 'he's going nowhere' ridicule suggestions of alternatives whilst proposing some pretty poor candidates.

It's a very muddled message you keep repeating Jimmi.

Pete Cross
236 Posted 28/04/2016 at 23:52:24
Echo reporting board meeting Friday
Fingers crossed?
Joe Clark
237 Posted 28/04/2016 at 00:01:16
How about a continental coach? For all of its faults, Italian football has some of the best tacticians and one comes to mind straight away: Walter Mazzarri.

He came to the fore coaching a little club from the south called Reggina where Pirlo did a season-long loan. It was here where he was first used as a deep lying playmaker. Mazzarri then went on to coach Napoli, creating that beautiful attacking trident of Lavezzi, Cavani, Hamsik.

He was a victim of circumstance when he took over at Inter, a club in transition looking for a scapegoat. He has been unemployed since and rumor has it has been learning English.

Eric Myles
238 Posted 29/04/2016 at 05:44:29
Boring and defensive, just what we need ? http://ww.bbc.com/sport/football/36165503Link


And another name in the frame becomes available http://www.bbc.com/sport/football/36158451Link

Nick Entwistle
239 Posted 29/04/2016 at 11:16:26
Andrew, La Liga is not the best league in the word. It is crap. What La Liga has is two extremely well funded most high profile clubs in the world. Simeone has done a Ferguson at Aberdeen with At.Madrid and hats off to the guy. Then you have a couple of good teams below. The rest are cannon fodder.

Half La Liga is Championship standard, League 1 more so, Budesliga a little better.

When people say the PL isn't the best in Europe what they mean is there is no team better than Real, Barca, Bayern, PSG and At Mad. Which though arguable is nothing to do with the league.

Not that it means a thing really. Best league worst league, winning it would still be the same for the fans.

Jimmi James
240 Posted 29/04/2016 at 15:39:52
Jay, ok get what you are saying but please never say it does or shouldnt matter to me because of things I am told by a normally reliable source. Its a game we have all played here lately trying to put forward our own preferences for a new manager should RM go. Like I said I will be as pleased as anyone if RM gets the sack (possibly today) but until such time as his departure is confirmed I have to believe my mate who does work within Goodison and as such should have a clue about the general feeling about the place but as he is not a board member I guess he cannot be certain but he just goes off the buzz around as happens in many work places when things are going wrong. Personally I think RM might get another season although I'm quite happy to be wrong on this as todays meeting may confirm.

So today or the next week or two should show what kind of ambition Everton have but Jay I'm like the rest of us blues and want change however it comes about. What I was saying is that some of the suggestions are pie in the sky, I'm sure you might agree that the likes of Simeone wouldnt come here, as for Pochettino I understand he is about to agree a five year deal at Spurs so he is off the wish list. Only being realistic with my thoughts about who we get if there is a change and some of the names bandied about here are just crazy although I guess thats the point of a wish list, who you would want in an ideal world but we don't live in an ideal world as we are Everton and never do things sensibly do we?. Lets just hope for the best eh.
Peter Thistle
241 Posted 30/04/2016 at 04:10:23
Get Michael Laudrup back to the Premier League. He's managing in Qatar at the moment, only for money. Our new 49% man can surely convince him to come to Everton on a lesser wage ( no doubt ) but be back in the best league in the world with all the money he wants to bankroll the team. Perfect choice for me, seeing as their aren't many others.
Alex Doyle
242 Posted 30/04/2016 at 18:01:56
Not convinced that Martinez must be replaced. Much depends on the players and if they are willing to accept their own failings and are willing to work with him.

Would like to see Yarmolenko in to take the pressure off Barkley. And a strong goalkeeper, right back and centre half. Part of the reason (press conferences aside) this season has been so frustrating is that we haven't been that far off. This squad should be hurting and will have learnt lessons this season.

But if Martinez does go, No to Benitez, Hughes and most on that list. Anyone who thinks Mourinho or Simeone are going to darken our door need to lie down and cop on. Bielsa is unlikely to ever work in England. Koeman and Laudrup strike me as short term appointments, which is in line with their respective track records. Not what we should be aiming for.

Sly Stallone?

Colin Glassar
243 Posted 12/05/2016 at 14:21:33
Any of the above pictured will do for me
James Byrne
244 Posted 12/05/2016 at 14:50:55
I'm not that arsed who takes over - I know this will end up a top appointment now we have a Chairman in charge with some ambition.

The number one priority was to get rid of Martinez. The worst Manager and the biggest football fraud on the planet.

Tony Draper
245 Posted 12/05/2016 at 14:58:05
Now we have NO MANAGER !

So this is the REALLY scary bit.

Until we appoint, we're just cannon fodder.

But when we do........
I want some fucker in that will make the "Sky Babies" shit their pink knickers and think "Oh Sweet baby Judas...... Everton are back !".

Go BIG Farhad !

Go FUCKING GIGANTIC !

Geoff Williams
246 Posted 12/05/2016 at 16:19:18
Laudrup would be a disaster, ask any Swansea supporter. He would cancel training if it was too wet, he used to turn up late and leave early. He didn't turn up to meet Ince who Swansea were trying to sign. He'd be a disaster.
Alasdair Mackay
247 Posted 12/05/2016 at 16:33:23
Call me a romantic, but I want the true Everton dream team in charge:

Manager - David Unsworth
Assistant Manager - Duncan Ferguson
1st Team Coach - Kevin Sheedy
Defensive Coach - Davie Weir
Attacking Coach - Daniel Amokachi

Marc Hottiger can work in the club shop and Andy van Der Meyde can work in the bar.

Henrik Lyngsie
248 Posted 12/05/2016 at 16:35:42
As a dane I would love to see Laudrup as our new manager. He is treated as a royal person in Denmark. When he managed Swansea all their matches were on live TV here. If he became manager I would not have to find dubious internet sites to watch our games.
His teams tends to play attractive football but he is a little bit like Martinez. And he tends to last only for one or two seasons. I think he does not really want to do all the hard work over a longer period which is required to become a top manager. So even as a Dane I think there are better alternatives (Mancini for me if Mourinho does not want to come)
Damian Wilde
251 Posted 12/05/2016 at 17:26:45
If FDB plays a posession game then no thanks. Someone mentioned Ruud H and Laurent B, are you mad?

Simeone WOULD NOT COME. If we go for him, let's go for Messi et al, eh?

Maybe Koeman could be worth a shout, though has he won anything? Be better than bobby.

Tony Twist
252 Posted 12/05/2016 at 17:32:10
Very tough job getting a new manager in, my favourite would be Mourinho because he is a winner and a right S.O.B. and he knowledgeable. It will be tough to get him but he is head and shoulders above anyone else who is available. No pelligrini or De Boer too much like Martinez with their style of play, Favre would be a risk but interesting times would be ahead if we picked him as the next manager. Make your choice quickly please Everton.
Tony Twist
253 Posted 12/05/2016 at 17:32:11
Very tough job getting a new manager in, my favourite would be Mourinho because he is a winner and a right S.O.B. and he knowledgeable. It will be tough to get him but he is head and shoulders above anyone else who is available. No pelligrini or De Boer too much like Martinez with their style of play, Favre would be a risk but interesting times would be ahead if we picked him as the next manager. Make your choice quickly lease Everton.
Jim Potter
254 Posted 12/05/2016 at 17:35:32
"Who could replace Martinez"?

A toilet brush.

Question answered.

Daniel A Johnson
255 Posted 12/05/2016 at 17:36:53
NOT Frank De Boer so what big deal hes won things in Holland

Steve McLaren won the dutch league with Fc Twente.
Would the bar codes want him back?

Mourinho for me is out of a job, we could afford his wages and we have a transfer kitty to back up our young talent.

If the the reds can tempt Klopp with no european football then why cant we tempt Mourinho.

AIM BIG AIM HIGH

Paul Mackie
256 Posted 12/05/2016 at 17:39:01
De Boer would be a disaster, he's a like for like replacement with Martinez. Same 'philosophy' of possession in defence and looking for that killer pass.
Brian Williams
257 Posted 12/05/2016 at 17:54:03
Paul 256. After hearing a Dutch footie correspondent on Talk Sport earlier today I agree.
He said "De Boer could lose five nil and still refuse to change his philosophy, he's that single minded."
Fucking hell, I thought, frying pan and fire to spring to mind here.
For me it's be Koeman, who by the way, the same correspondent reckoned was the best of the Dutch masters.
John Crawley
258 Posted 12/05/2016 at 18:01:50
Emery for me, negative net spend of £83 million for Sevilla, constantly having to sell his best players and bring through younger players. All that time he's finished 5th, 5th and 7th and won the Europa League twice and is in the final this year. If not him then Favre would be a good choice, dragged up Borussia Monchengladbach from relegation zone to champions league and his team play fast attacking football. Has overachieved wherever he's managed.
Damian Wilde
259 Posted 12/05/2016 at 18:49:18
Emery sounds good.
Colin Glassar
261 Posted 12/05/2016 at 18:59:00
Why not Woy?
Dennis Ng
262 Posted 12/05/2016 at 18:59:30
#JustHireEmery
Colin Glassar
263 Posted 12/05/2016 at 19:05:10
Big Joe and Unsy to take charge against Norwich.
Dennis Ng
264 Posted 12/05/2016 at 19:05:58
Let's see some fire in the last game at least. Make the fans feel better.
John Keating
265 Posted 12/05/2016 at 19:17:37
Well the other week I was walking my little dog in the park when the little sod made out to have a shit on the path !
Without me saying anything he then toddled over to the grass and did his business.This is a sure sign of having a plan B so I would like to nominate him
Paul Andrews
266 Posted 12/05/2016 at 19:25:45
Emery has been in charge of Seville for 18 away games this season.

9 defeats. 9 draws.

Even his Uncle Dick would manage one away win?

Eric Holland
268 Posted 12/05/2016 at 19:47:03
Betfair have Koeman at 1/100 Do they know something?
Clive Lewis
269 Posted 12/05/2016 at 19:51:39
Please don't make the same mistake again and go for someone whom has done nothing.

Go for a manager that has won things and challenged in a top league near the top consistently.

Forget about hunches , go for safety and been there done it km and of manager. We don't want to be stuck with another Martinez.

De Boer is in the camp of Gamble.
Mourinho
Pelegrini
Mancini
Emery
Not in any order , but I think they should have managed in premier league also and been relatively successful. However Pep and simione are exceptions.

Talking to a Man city fan and he highly rates Mancini.

Tony Draper
270 Posted 12/05/2016 at 20:02:34
This truly IS a window of real opportunity.
Anyone here saying "well he wouldn't come here" needs to fuck off and count their bollocks. Because thinking small has won us FUCK ALL for 21 years.

So, you cornershop types, who do you think that poor grateful little pen-knife Everton should bring to the forthcoming events at the "OK Corrall ?".

Some beloved exEFC player ?
Some Johnny come lately, the new kid in town ?
If Everton want to step up then we NEED to "WISE UP", FFS little Leicester brought in Ranieri, comfortable Southampton brought in Koeman.

Here, we have "serious" Evertonians berating fellow Toffs because the Moyesian, "be careful" mindset has obliterated ALL consideration of GLORY !

FFS GLORY is what we want !
Our moto is......
Nil Satis Nisi Optimum
NOT
Submission means survival, accept and continue.

Anyone aged 45 or over, scratch your fucking nuts, then tell the "beaten generations" what it felt like to be "The Feared Kings of Europe". Cos that is exactly who we were !

Go fucking BIG Everton !
Go fucking MASSIVE !
Go fucking MASSIVE !

John Aldridge
271 Posted 12/05/2016 at 20:23:11
Feels weird, we're in a "no mans land" area with no manager. Feels like Everton have a future again - under who? Anyone's guess.

I'm holding onto the Mourinho dream as long as I can - we've got some cracking young players, and money to spend. A project. Why wouldn't he? Come on Jose, you know it makes sense.

Tony Draper
272 Posted 12/05/2016 at 20:23:41
And for every single Evertonian who does or can't remember 1995.

This IS what you are.
Link

And this IS what you MUST DO !
https://www.youtube.com/results?Link

I owe this legacy to you, to drive you on to expect much, much more.

So please watch even just the first twenty seconds of this legendary slice of Evertonianism. What this pretty little girl says is a million times more powerful than hearing Z-Cars ring out at The Worlds First Football Stadium !

"Golden Vision"
Link

Is he good ?

Simon Bradley
273 Posted 12/05/2016 at 21:20:55
The life of an Evertonian. Would make a brilliant movie hey folks?

We go from despair to hope to euphoria to losing hope to total despair faster than you can say the word Everton.

Ok, so yesterday was the end of our world, today, hope and excitement with a little apprehension lingering in the back of all our minds.

I'm as negative and realistic as the next person when it comes to Everton, you have to be with our track record. But I'm also a person who looks on the bright side of things and I am the eternal optimist. Things have happened to me in my life that make me believe that - 2 major personal events that at the time were devastating to me, tuned my life around for the better and a well paid job and a beautiful wife and two wonderful young sons are the direct results of those to terrible moments in my life.

Plus I've been an Evertonian all my life, watching and cheering the blues on from afar (USA) since 1995. I was a season ticket holder from 1981-1994. I'm 47 now. See my second sentence above - that has happened to me 100's of times.

So I have hope - We have Moshiri, we have money, we have a vacant managers position with lets face it a pool of options that DO NOT ALWAYS present themselves when you are looking to replace a manager of a football club. Its quite amazing the talent that is available right now. Some better than others, Jose, Benitez, Koeman, DeBoer, Bielsa, Favre, Pelligrini, Cocu, Howe, Karanka - jeez guys if we get any one of those its surely a MASSIVE upgrade over the last two managers we have had. And yes, they will have more money to spend. Surely we can be positive and excited about what is around the corner.

Yes, Everton do this to us all the time, they offer us false hope. Some of those names I wouldn't want, Benitez while obviously a good manager (he won the CL with a less than average team and Jerzy Dudek in goal FFS!) he is exe Red and has just been relegated so not for me thanks. Pelligrini and Howe I'm not so fussed on, but would take ANY of the others.

Like I said, I'm an optimist, but this is how I think our next twelve months will pan out.

1) We get a really decent manager form a strong pool of options VERY SOON, possibly in place within the next couple of weeks.
2) He brings with him a forward thinking and a tactically and technically sound backroom staff
3) He has money to spend from Moshiri, the sale of players (I really think we should cash in on Rom as much as I like him) and the new TV deal - a revamp of the squad is forthcoming

Now, what I also think will happen:

4) Kenwright stands down and Moshiri becomes outright owner.
5) Goodison upgrade or new stadium announcement.

You can all laugh at me if you like - but this just feels like its all possible to me. Now that Martinez is out, this is the FRESHEST and MOST IMPORTANT new start and couple of weeks in the history of our amazing club.

My prediction next year, if all goes well I see us finishing in the top 6 or 7. Small steps folks, that's better than the last two years. After that, I really believe its onwards and upwards for us, we deserve it for crying out loud :)

Peace. COYB.

John Windsor
274 Posted 12/05/2016 at 21:32:15
Can't believe that Benitez has been linked with our club. This is the kopite who called us a 'small' club. I'm embarrassed that he is even being considered....... It's an insult....!!!!!
John Grills
275 Posted 12/05/2016 at 23:03:07
Simon (273) - its good to be an optimist, but remember you are an Evertonian! :)
Lets hope indeed. If Moshiri is serious about investing in the club's future then indeed a good manager could follow, stadium improvements and a general uplift in the clubs fortune.

Personally I would like to see Koeman or De Boer – both I think have the skills. This might be controversial, but Benitez I think is a very talented manager – we would have to make him eat humble pie first though. Let him beg for the post!!

Soren Moyer
276 Posted 12/05/2016 at 23:05:40
1. Simeone
2. Koeman
3. Marcelino
4. Pellegrini

In that order.

Steve Bell
277 Posted 12/05/2016 at 00:07:28
Koeman or Mourinho.
No to FdB – too much like the last one
No to Benitez, Moyes, O'Neill, Hughes, Howe
No to Bielsa, can't or won't speak English
No to Pellegrino, too old
Would Bill appoint Unsworth if the first two say no?
Cheapest option. Would he pursuade Moshiri?
"You sacked Martinez, I pick the new manager" quid pro quo.
All speculation.
Simon Bradley
278 Posted 13/05/2016 at 02:57:19
John (275) Cautiously and quietly optimistic.

This would be my preference in this order:

1) Mourinho (unlikely, but we have to think along these lines if we want to compete with the best - and just imagine the derby!!!)
2) De Boer
3) Koeman
4) Bielsa
5) Pelligrini/Favre/Karanka - either one of these if we don't get one of the other 4.

Nice options to have.

Ill jump of a cliff if we get Warbuton, Hughes or Moyes.

Simon Bradley
279 Posted 13/05/2016 at 04:38:39
This is a massive opportunity. I know (as you can tell by my other posts) that I am the eternal optimist, but the names/managers out there that are either available or even being mentioned in the same sentence as the 'next Everton manager' have to instill us with confidence.

The more I think about Koeman, the more I like the idea. I was set on De Boer but he has no Premier League experience. So with that in mind, the aforementioned Koeman, Mourinho, Pellegrini and dare I say it even Benitez's of this world are attractive options. Some more than other I agree. I would still take De Boer, or Bielsa or Karanka or Favre. See what I mean. Mouth watering.

But Everton have an opportunity here. The words 100 Million for transfers as well a a 5 million salary for a new, exciting coach, are numbers and possibilities Everton and their supporters have dared to dream about since the inception of the Premier League.

Welcome Mr. Moshiri. And IF we sell the likes of Lukaku and Stones (I would rather not), there will be more money there. And then there is the TV money.

Our club has been crying out for this opportunity for decades.

Lets all see what happens this first year eh? First things first, get he right man in, re build the team with better players in key positions and strenght in depth in other areas of the team, then play exciting attacking football with a good solid defence.

COYB.

Nicky Styles
280 Posted 13/05/2016 at 08:47:05
I want Moyes back. He will guarantee stability, a top 8 (at least) finish and I reckon he can push us on with the apparent E100 million that will be at the new manager's disposal come June
Patrick Murphy
281 Posted 13/05/2016 at 09:19:57
Whoever gets the job will have a great deal to do in rebuilding the team - as usual as fans we will have to show yet more patience and wait for the 'new' side to gel.

The person charged with this will have to be pragmatic, imaginative, demanding and frugal. Add to that they must have a large enough personality to help raise the profile of the club and will also have to despise losing football matches as much as we do as supporters and love winning football matches as much as we do.

We all have our own opinions on who the next manager should be and all of them will have some of the qualities listed above and some will not, but fortunately it's not down to us to make the call - probably the biggest call in Everton's modern history if not in the entire history of the club.

Whoever is appointed, we have to hope that emotions don't get in the way of any decisions, it has to be a proper businesslike appointment. As fans we don't really care if the new guy is going to be best friends with the Chairman, or whether he's a lovely guy who lights up a room when he enters it. We only care about what we see out on the pitch in any given 90 minutes, that's what we pay to see. We also don't care how great the atmosphere is on the training pitch or in the dressing room if it isn't translated onto the field.

Hopefully, this time the appointment won't be made upon a whim of one person, but will be made collectively at boardroom level and with only football related matters being a consideration.

The leaders of the club need to inform the new boss of their aims for the team in the next few years and what is and isn't acceptable and hopefully, nobody on the board will be trying to recreate a bygone era or dream scenarios based on moments from the past, this appointment has to be one that looks to the future and says we expect Everton FC to compete at the highest possible level, no excuses.

Whoever that manager is, whoever is lucky enough to be appointed to take charge of Everton FC can take it on from there - fingers crossed he's successful.

Scott Phelps
282 Posted 13/05/2016 at 11:28:33
My choice is also Moyes back. If you asked me who I wanted a few months ago I would be horrified at the thought of Moyes returning but with how disastrous our form has been for two season, we need to get the appointment spot on now.

We can't afford a gamble such as De Boer to backfire and leave us further behind the progressive clubs. Moyes knows the club inside out. He made some excellent signing in his time – Coleman, Cahill, Lescott etc and he knows how to DEFEND and organise.

He took us to the brink of the Champions League with the resources back then so I believe he could take us further with the new investment

Anto Byrne
283 Posted 13/05/2016 at 11:59:50
Can we please appoint a manager that will play football similar to some of what we know this team is capable of but with a clear mandate to stop the leaking goals, improve the fitness levels, vary the play, and work on corners and set pieces.

He needs to build a team from the back. Another keeper, big strong central defenders good in the air, not prone to ball watching. We need a playmaker with Barkley unless he decides to exit as well. It's going to be a tall order for whoever comes as he needs everyone playing to their ability.

So let's hope its a well thought-out appointment by the club based on what they need from a manager. Do we really want other teams' cast-offs, ie, Pellegrini or Mourhino? I would prefer not to see Benitez or Koeman (Southampton were no better than Everton under Martinez).

Anyway, with Moshiri in place, I'm sure we will get the best man for the job, fingers crossed. At age 66 I would take Wenger if he leaves Arsenal: lots of experience hates losing, and plays good football. Capable of clearing out the dead wood, the OAPs and those not good enough.

Barry Sherlock
284 Posted 13/05/2016 at 13:24:36
No no no no NO thank you to Moyes and Benitez. And Hughes for that matter.

Whoever says that de Boer is too similar to RM is having a laugh. Ajax conceded 21 goals this season and scored 81 goals!!! Stark contrast to any RM team ever!

Personally I think FdB would be a fantastic appointment for ANY club. We should stop wishing for Mourinho as he doesn't believe in youth and would want to buy the talent. We can't afford to do that as we would break the FFP rules.

1. Frank de Boer
2. Koeman
3. Julen Lopetgui

That would be my shortlist.

Soren Moyer
285 Posted 13/05/2016 at 13:57:08
If I had to chose between Moyes and Benitez, I'd go with the latter. Please stop mentioning the names like Moyes, Howe, Pulis, etc...
Kevin Dale
286 Posted 13/05/2016 at 16:06:58
I’m all for a young British manager, someone with managerial experience but with Everton in his blood, I’m thinking of maybe Alan Stubbs or Stuart McCall, both have had experience in management and working with difficult budgets, coming to Everton though will give them the freedom to build a team within the Everton mould.
I don’t necessarily agree that these foreign managers offer anything other than being able to spend our money! Why not give that opportunity to a British manager?
David Barks
287 Posted 13/05/2016 at 16:09:52
Kevin Dale,

Good God man.

David Greenwood
288 Posted 13/05/2016 at 16:16:54
Alan Stubbs. If he had not played for Everton he would not even be mentioned.

He has this season just managed to finish third in a two horse race.

Or if you prefer had the sixth biggest budget in Scotland and finished fifteenth.

Our next manager has to be a statement of intent. Stubbs might be a future manager of Everton, but not the next one.

Simon Bradley
289 Posted 13/05/2016 at 18:18:50
Uh Oh. Flores has quit Watford. Hoping that is just coincidence, but its would be typical Everton to go for someone like him over a proven winner like De Boer, Mourinho, Pellegrini, Favre or Bielsa.

Please Everton, no more mediocrity. You are a big club.

Clive Lewis
290 Posted 13/05/2016 at 23:25:36
Mancini... Why not even a mentor n he has actually one of many few whom has won the premier league.
Rob Brown
291 Posted 13/05/2016 at 23:28:56
For me it has to be Frank de Boer for me. Firstly he came through the legendary Ajax academy, becoming one of the best defenders of his generation. What we need is defensive organisation. He would bring that, and if he could bring Stamp and Berghamp with him would make a statement.

As we have just found out, you can't organise a defence your not going to win many matches. Moyes was a defender that is why we had one of the best defences in the league for almost a decade. If you don't concede you don't lose many matches.
Simon Bradley
292 Posted 14/05/2016 at 00:10:17
LVG looking like he will stay at United one more year. Please be true. If so Mr. Moshiri.............

Please start dialing Jose Mourinho's phone and leave him a message. One of the best club sides in the history of football, one that has a history (unlike Chelsea) has a vacancy you may be interested in.

Ron Marr
293 Posted 14/05/2016 at 00:34:21
FWIW, Johny Heitinga is giving De Boer the thumbs up for Everton, as well as Michael Ball.


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