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It's sounding really exciting. :)
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1 Posted 09/07/2017 at 05:52:29
But they've been taken down.
2 Posted 09/07/2017 at 05:53:20
3 Posted 09/07/2017 at 05:55:05
4 Posted 09/07/2017 at 06:55:07
5 Posted 09/07/2017 at 11:46:11
6 Posted 09/07/2017 at 13:51:24
7 Posted 09/07/2017 at 22:53:28
Someone jumping on the bandwagon.
8 Posted 10/07/2017 at 09:51:19
Why aren't we having two large home ends??
9 Posted 10/07/2017 at 15:10:20
Ron@6: Regarding the sea-rise issue, that's not something I would take seriously for any real business decision.
Putting to one side the 'believer' versus 'denier' polarisation in which the media, the oil industry, the likes of Trump, the global warming community, etc, are involved, the so-called projections are simply theoretical mathematical predictions without substantial basis in reality.
The whole topic is more complex than most involved can actually deal with, and there is more pseudo-science than science in most of the 'debate'.
10 Posted 10/07/2017 at 15:35:18
Personally I would take sea-level rise as a business decision very seriously. The records for Liverpool since the early 1800s are some of the most accurate in the world. The trend unfortunately is an actual and undeniable accelerating rate of increase of sea-level rise, nothing to do with predictions, right wing wishful thinking or green campaigners alarmism.
Not to say it can't be mitigated by flood defences but it does cost money. For an example of the costs just ask the owners of the cinema and supermarket in New Brighton when they were daft enough to build on a stretch of coast that sees prevailing westerly winds and a softly sloping beach piling the waves up against their buildings and the consequent damage that followed.
11 Posted 10/07/2017 at 15:58:18
I would contend that the evidence is multi-factorial and substantial both to the casual observer and specialist. We live in an era of 'false facts' but the scientific method will see it out.
It would be true to say that some will not believe it is happening until it has happened. Whether or not the Paris agreement is our best response to mitigate the risk is debatable – it is obvious that those who choose to withdraw from the agreement have reasons other than scientific doubts to do what they are doing. They want to burn their way back into power in 4 years.
The risk to a stadium on the waterfront is obvious though the height of the dock above water level is reasonable whenever I have looked. They look well above the expected rise of 1m – but perhaps on a stormy spring tide in 2050-2100 there could be large waves dumping lots more water on the dockside than they do now. It is surely sensible to prepare for this outcome rather than wait until the waves are breaking over the dockside at highwater with a storm surge behind it.
This is not likely to have to be a hugely expensive exercise but consideration for how seawater should be prevented from flooding the area and other structures on those few occasions when it might be needed is more than sensible in a building designed to last for the next 100 years.
12 Posted 10/07/2017 at 16:54:47
13 Posted 10/07/2017 at 17:08:15
14 Posted 10/07/2017 at 17:13:11
15 Posted 10/07/2017 at 17:26:26
16 Posted 10/07/2017 at 18:02:01
Taking a se- rise issue seriously and properly in business terms involves objective assessment, not the kind of approach seen most often in the media that involves propaganda from both 'believers' and 'deniers' from the communities listed above.
17 Posted 10/07/2017 at 18:06:48
19 Posted 10/07/2017 at 18:12:41
In late 2012 a '100-year storm' hit the North Sea and coast around Aberdeen, causing a fair bit of damage (I was on the harbour at Stonehaven at the time, and it was spectacular to say the least), including damage to offshore rigs. This damage, although requiring remedial action afterwards, did not disrupt operation substantially, which is consistent with the '1-in-100' storm design criterion.
20 Posted 10/07/2017 at 18:20:43
And it will have nothing to do with the closure of the Sand Winning plant at Southport that was taking Hundreds of Tons of Sand a DAY from the Horse Bank off Southport. The water has to go somewhere now that the holes it used to fill are no longer there.
21 Posted 10/07/2017 at 18:27:29
22 Posted 10/07/2017 at 18:29:28
"You watch, soon as we win the Premier League, the bloody sea level will rise barring us from Europe".
Excellent. Oh for posts like this to lift the spirits (I'm depressed with there being no more signings today).
23 Posted 10/07/2017 at 18:35:06
24 Posted 10/07/2017 at 18:40:41
25 Posted 10/07/2017 at 18:56:44
26 Posted 10/07/2017 at 19:07:55
27 Posted 10/07/2017 at 19:42:46
28 Posted 10/07/2017 at 20:23:44
29 Posted 10/07/2017 at 20:29:28
30 Posted 10/07/2017 at 20:34:08
31 Posted 10/07/2017 at 20:36:22
32 Posted 10/07/2017 at 20:38:30
I remember nearly drowning when I was pushed in, and I was about 7/8 years of age, and just I was gonna start trying to swim, someone rescued me.
I was fuckin gutted because I never learnt to swim properly for another 18 months, and I still blame the person that saved me!
33 Posted 10/07/2017 at 20:42:28
Separate subject, but Mentmore Crescent had a fantastic playing field (and bowling greens) in the middle of the crescent, where we played footie all day. I remember playing footie with Billy Wright, who was a local celebrity because Tommy Wright is his uncle.
34 Posted 10/07/2017 at 20:50:45
35 Posted 10/07/2017 at 21:16:40
37 Posted 10/07/2017 at 22:39:29
Brian, don't tell me you played on that field as well?
38 Posted 10/07/2017 at 22:40:52
Not sure what you are trying to say, even the most rudimentary work on the effect of sea level rise shows an increased deposition of silt as salinity level moves inland and the generally lowered river flow rates as the distance and drop seaward decreases. Hardly surprising the dredgers still have to work hard in the Mersey and they gave up on the Ribble.
The issue really is; will Dan Meis have to take into account the general engineering and scientific consensus by the overwhelming majority of individuals with real expertise or will he ignore it?
I suspect the insurance companies will make his mind for him as regards to the nature of the build. Whatever, I don't mind putting on wellies to watch the Blues play.
40 Posted 11/07/2017 at 09:08:00
41 Posted 11/07/2017 at 13:41:19
42 Posted 12/07/2017 at 13:59:02
43 Posted 13/07/2017 at 09:11:27
They just dredge away the sea bed giving more space for the water to fill and thus lowering the water level.
44 Posted 13/07/2017 at 09:42:49
So the answer is to flood one of the Tunnels or dig a very deep hole for the rising water to go into. The sand extracted could be dumped in that large Box with the loft conversion across Stanley Park from Goodison. After all,when Mr Moshiri has bought the City, he can dump it wherever he wants.
45 Posted 14/07/2017 at 15:36:58
46 Posted 14/07/2017 at 15:45:18
47 Posted 14/07/2017 at 22:24:38
48 Posted 20/07/2017 at 00:47:50
50 Posted 20/07/2017 at 13:47:50
Got to be some serious marketing opportunities with that number...
51 Posted 21/07/2017 at 10:23:08
Did you hear that, Mr Meis?
52 Posted 21/07/2017 at 10:33:33
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