Club hierarchy continue to assess sites for new Everton stadium

We would also attract weekend tourists from the city centre with all the new public transport links and the Bootle area would benefit greatly from all that money coming into the area. Come on, Moshiri – you know it makes sense!

Sorry, Patrick's reply just in ahead of mine.

I'm just a bit concerned that Bill is involved as he has two disasters in his portfolio already. We can only speculate on what might have been had the Kings Dock come off.

Ask West Ham supporters what they think of their new match day "experience". I can't believe such a thing is even being considered. If we have to move, then it should only be on the basis that we move nearer to the City centre, not further away.

The fear is that Peel could well price themselves out of the deal, so hopefully common sense prevails and a common ground can be found.

Every little helps.

Only joking about robbing the car, by the way.

It can't just be a simple kick in the nuts, we agreed – ie: 'tut, that was disappointing, lost 1-0.' It has to be 'we could win this... we look like we're going to win... WE'RE GOING TO WIN!... hoof! We fucking lost.'

For me, the way we're kicked in the bollocks goes like this.

Our plums are first hand-washed by native girls on a Polynesian Island.

Then they're gently towelled dry, using only the softest fluffiest towels.

Then they're cooled by gentle coastal breezes.

Then, knackers exposed, we feel wonderful and begin to drift off to sleep while waves gently lap onto the beach.

And it's at that point that a 7-foot Island warrior starts pulling on his hobnails.

Seconds later 'HOOOFF!! and you feel like spewing.

I mention this re any new ground.

What I mean is coz it's Everton (and fat-head) it couldn't just be 'it's going to be Crocky'. There had to be the possibility of the dock to get us all worked up.

"We could get the dock... looks like it'll be the dock... WE'RE GOING TO GET THE DOCK!!... hoof! It's fucking Crocky.'

Though still hoping for the best, I shall be protecting my ball-bag as best I can, knowing that history says a(nother) massive kick in the bollocks is almost certainly on it's way, for Evertonians with any ambition.

One of these options would mean that we surrender any sense of presence in the city and hand everything over to that other lot ... at the time that Liverpool is developing as a major tourist destination. It would be accepting once and for all that we are the "other" team in Liverpool.

Over to you, Bill. Me? I can only fear the worst.

It just has to be the docks... I don't want a Eugene scenario.

It will be all down to doing a deal with Peel, which I think they will want. Especially with the possible revenues from football spectators. Also, who is to say that concerts may not be held at our new ground in the future, all bringing prosperity to the area.

With that blaring out every home match the fans message might just sink in and we may finally get our wish and move on up to the waterfront and a new stadium by the Royal Blue Mersey.

Down By The Dockside

We've had a good run.

No way I'll renew a season ticket for the East Lancs Road.

Surely they would want to conduct their business discreetly and away from the local and national press who will be attending hoping to catch our esteemed Chairman give a nod of royal approval (dockside location), or a dismissive shake of the head (Crocky Cross), accompanied by his paymaster.

The realist in me suspect's that the Croxteth venue is still on the agenda, otherwise why bother visiting the location?

Clearly the latter option comes with less baggage than the docks, and a vastly superior road access system, with the A580, M62, M57 and M58 all within a stones throw of the planned ground build.

I really hope Moshiri sees the bigger picture, and what's at stake here for the long term future of the club. But back to the PR exercise taking place this Friday, I have to say the visit's really should have taken place incognito, and then announce a decision on the facts, economically or otherwise, on why that decision was taken.

God help us if we opt for Croxteth, it would really dampen the optimistic mood around the club for the last few month's since the arrival of Moshiri, Koeman et al.

Make it happen, Farhad!!

Given the recent negative statements Liverpool's chief executive, Ian Ayre, has made about the development of Anfield Road ("not a smart investment"), I feel we should all be relieved that staying at Goodison Park is now a non-starter. It is highly likely that we would have faced exactly the same problems.

Stonebridge Cross would be worse than Kirkby which at least had a railway station and a town centre in close proximity. The fact that Bramley-Moore Dock is in the public domain means that anything other than a dockside location will now come as a huge disappointment to the vast majority of fans.

We can only hope Moshiri and the Board take a view that the long term benefits of a prestigious waterfront site will justify the additional upfront investment.

On non-match days it will be a ghost town. Think the Riverside, Middlesbrough's stadium. Better to be close to a community, think Croxteth is not perfect but the best option.

And so it goes with today's get-out-of-Goodison 20-year saga, and counting.

I just hope my unborn great great grandson, whatever planet he's living on, gets one chance at least to see a full match in the flesh by way of an unobstructed view, the feeling of not having been financially raped by just attending, and without the need to get rid of his kecks before returning home for fear that some mongrel would shag his piss-stained leg the moment he got out of his time machine.

Is that too much to hope for?

Realistically, it's the team and winning that is the priority... What's the point of having a fancy house if you can't furnish it?

Tradition starts somewhere. So think of Croxtheth as a new beginning.

Thanks for the link. It's a long time since I have watched Thomas etc. Bit different these days. However, you may have stumbled upon an Everton anthem to rival You'll Never Walk Alone...

I can already hear 30,000 fans singing the docks song

I suspect that Moshiri and his cohort are on Merseyside over the next couple of days with the Manchester City game scheduled for tomorrow. Let's dare to dream.

John (#38), I think if Everton go down on the docks, it will kick-start massive regeneration in this part of the city, which will in-turn help turn Liverpool into a true world class city.

Read the Manchester Evening News talking about Stones on one of the main headlines on the Everton page. It's an article full of shite, which will only fan the flames of most Evertonians, but I read another piece because I was on their site. Trafford Waters, waiting on £1Billion, worth of investment.

Manchester, great city, I actually class it as the second city in England, personally, but they haven't got our waterfront, or the compactness of our ever expanding city centre.

I think Anderson, and the powers that be, want to host the Commonwealth Games, and I think they will want it on a waterfront stadium, to showcase our city. Only Liverpool could really push and overtake Manchester, because of our location, and the regeneration of all this land could be the key.

If we can't get the docks then stay at Goodison. It can be redeveloped in stages and we'll end up with a great stadium. Goodison is a much better location than Stonebridge Cross.

My two penn'orth? Docks/waterfront every time.

Football can and will be played on any day of the week now. These acts who require such a big site book the venue years in advance. There have just been new changes of fixture days released by our chief paymasters, 5 in 1 month!!!

There aren't that many stadium concerts, why haven't Everton done it recently?

Here's Sister Rosetta to explain...

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