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Loan move for Okaka claimed as time runs short

| Tuesday, 29 August 2017  222 Comments  [Jump to last]
The Blues are being linked with an unlikely move for Watford's Stefano Okaka as the transfer deadline approaches and Romelu Lukaku's place in the side remains unfilled.

Ronald Koeman has made signing a replacement for last season's top goalscorer a priority before the window shuts on Thursday but a shortage of viable targets has seen the number of names being linked dwindle.

A move for Wilfried Bony has been rumoured and now The Mirror claim that a loan approach for Okaka, who scored twice against Everton last season but is not a regular in the Hornets' starting XI, could be in the offing.

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James Stewart
1 Posted 29/08/2017 at 22:50:09
Valencia mark II. Surely not that desperate.
Rick Pattinson
2 Posted 29/08/2017 at 22:55:27
Not a regular at Watford. So how the fxck is he gonna come close to our 1st team... No thanks...stop dicking about and get in lukakus replacement...shitty loan deals for shitty players won't get us through what is going to be a difficult season.
Fran Mitchell
3 Posted 29/08/2017 at 22:55:50
Hopefully bullshit. But if this is the limit of our desperateness, despite knowing since May/June that both Barkley and Lukaku would be off, then serious questions must be asked.

With the initial signings, we did it all right, good, provenm solid and young players to improve our spine. All we needed was the fine trimmings of pace and flair to make this a team to be reckoned with, and they've gone and screwed it up.

ANd when you see the shite add Salah and possibly lamar to their attacking forces all you can say is 'fucking everton' and accept that the claims of a top-4 target were actually bullshit

Tony Twist
4 Posted 29/08/2017 at 22:56:00
Dear lord, scraping the bottom of the barrel now. It's time to show your claws Moshiri, this is getting embarrassing.
Fran Mitchell
5 Posted 29/08/2017 at 22:57:50
And 7th isn't agiven, Leicester, Sothampton, Stoke, heck even watford and WHB could all challeng us if we don't sort out this attack.
Colin Glassar
6 Posted 29/08/2017 at 22:59:46
OMG, can this get any more depressing? Who's next? Bradley Wright-Phillips?
Brent Stephens
7 Posted 29/08/2017 at 23:02:55
You guys really take it hook, line and sinker. It's tittle tattle.
Paul Smith
8 Posted 29/08/2017 at 23:04:29
This has got to be a joke how can it come to this. There has got to be better out there willing to sign for us. This is really starting to worry me now we've known for ages about Lukaku going and to let it come to this is pathetic.

I thought we had moved on from shambolic transfer windows but this would wipe out all previous excitement from this window.

Tony Everan
9 Posted 29/08/2017 at 23:06:21
Please tell,me it hasn't come to this. A loan for a player who struggles to get in a bottom half team.
I think the media is being fed ted herrings to keep them off the scent.
Chris Goodwin
10 Posted 29/08/2017 at 23:06:58
Why haven't we bid for Kasper Dolberg or Moussa Dembele? (injured, I know, but so what)?
Oliver Molloy
11 Posted 29/08/2017 at 23:08:33
No Colin , it will be Shane Long he's really after!
James Marshall
12 Posted 29/08/2017 at 23:13:17
Shambolic? We signed about 6 players didn't we? Two days to go before it's all over, and people are freaking out about paper talk.

I'm optimistic we'll sign a decent striker by the end of Thursday.

Tony Twist
13 Posted 29/08/2017 at 23:13:19
Déjà vu, as James has mentioned, who would have predicted that we would be in the hunt for Valencia last season. I'm getting that sinking feeling.
Andrew James
14 Posted 29/08/2017 at 23:13:39
I'm waiting for the Rondon link...

We're now getting linked with just about every 10-12 goal a season forward in our league.

John Audsley
15 Posted 29/08/2017 at 23:17:53
Totally made up rumour.

Maybe we can get Brian and Mark Stein.

Or

Billy Whitehurst and Mick Harford.

Denver Daniels
16 Posted 29/08/2017 at 23:21:34
Panic stations!
Karl Masters
17 Posted 29/08/2017 at 23:45:22
Watch this space...

Think you'll be pleasantly surprised.

James Watts
18 Posted 29/08/2017 at 23:48:46
Ahhh, Karl, that isn't a Jim White 'watch this space' type claim as we fail with another Sissoko type bid, is it? Or do you have some sneaky inside info?
Len Hawkins
19 Posted 29/08/2017 at 23:59:18
I can understand their thinking if they have a load of "K's" left in the club shops.
Karl Masters
20 Posted 29/08/2017 at 00:00:05
Let's just say, James, that Farhad will be throwing pizza and trays of tea about if we don't get this last bit of business resolved.

Personally, I suspect it will be Costa, but that's a personal view. I'm hearing we might have somebody from abroad, I just hope it's not Jimenez for £40m. Dendoncker perhaps?

Jamie Sweet
21 Posted 30/08/2017 at 00:10:46
Dear people getting outraged by a rumour.

Please refer to article by Eugene Raune at the start of the window.

Cheers.

Mike Gaynes
22 Posted 30/08/2017 at 00:20:45
Watching your space, Karl...

...searching for secret signing info embedded in your message...

...eyes glazing over...

James Watts
23 Posted 30/08/2017 at 00:21:24
Karl #20. Do you have inside contacts then? Or is it gut feeling type scenario?

Costa. Absolutely if we get him for the season. Until January will be pointless I think as by the time he's up to speed he'll be off so in effect we'd be paying his wages to get him fit for Madrid!

I hope not re the Benfica lad too, but that's based on his stats. What he's like as a player I have no clue. But if we only went by stats Walsh wouldn't have got Vardy in. £40m even in today's fees seems ridiculous based on what we know thought. And imagine the outrage on here!

Deodoncker? Not sure how he's solve our striker issue?

Derek Thomas
24 Posted 30/08/2017 at 00:24:18
'...Ronald Koeman has made signing a replacement for last season's top goalscorer a priority before the window shuts on Thursday...'

File under; No shit Sherlock...should've been sorted first up...but maybe they thought it was with Sandro and Koeman's faith in Calvert-Lewin.

David Barks
25 Posted 30/08/2017 at 00:31:55
Hey, they said a priority, not top priority. I mean, I have a massive list of initiatives and all have a priority.
Kieran Kinsella
26 Posted 30/08/2017 at 01:03:57
John Audsley

I'd settle for the Steins at this point.

David Israel
27 Posted 30/08/2017 at 01:14:23
Next rumour will be 'Victor Anichebe seen at John Lennon Airport. Not clear if it's Tranmere Rovers or Chester who are afer him, but Everton do want to sign a striker before the deadline.'
Andrew Keatley
28 Posted 30/08/2017 at 01:14:24
I'd happily have Costa on loan until January.

If he can get fit and be contributing by mid-September then, there are a lot of games that he can make a difference in, and it'll give the club an extra bit of time to sort out a permanent replacement in January.

Remember what we currently have available to us. We need to find a centre forward to come in, be first choice, and hit the ground running. There aren't a lot of other options who carry the same goal-threat that Costa does.

Philip Jeffries
29 Posted 30/08/2017 at 01:20:37
What a load of rubbish. The club have acted professionally and decisively in the market thus far. Signing a striker is the 'big one'. There is no way I believe that the club are looking at this guy from Watford. Deeney maybe at a push, but I feel that Koeman and Walsh are shopping at the higher end of the market and that is why it has taken so long.

Deals for the bigger transfers seem to take longer. It wouldn't surprise me if we did settle for a loan with January arrivals being lined up as soon as the window closes (if we don't get in who we want). But a loan deal would be for someone like Costa, who would certainly give us firepower and a target up top.

Only issue for me is that he probably wouldn't be allowed to play in Europe as part of the deal. COYB and all will be revealed. Remember, if Jim White says it... 'DISREGARD'... along with that yellow tie!
James Watts
30 Posted 30/08/2017 at 01:24:33
Andrew (#29).

Only problem with that is Costa has done zero training in pre-season. Fit by mid September? Highly unlikely. Players normally get 6 weeks in pre-season to be ready. That 6 weeks takes us to mid October. Then he'd be gone by January. And how committed would he be as he knows he'll be back in Madrid a few weeks later?

I would love Costa. But it surely has to be for the full season if we consider this as a serious option. I don't want us to be paying his wages for his pre-season training before he heads to Madrid once he's fit.

Jim Knightley
31 Posted 30/08/2017 at 01:43:06
I expect he has been doing some form of training James, as players often do in this situation.

It's also notable that some have far more truncated pre-seasons. For example, multiple players were involved in the Confederations Cup this year. Cedric Soares of Southampton had less than two weeks training before starting for Southampton in their opener (he played in one pre-season game). Sanchez did a similar thing last season I believe.

In the unlikely event that Costa signed, he'd have over a week's training before the weekend. I'd expect he'd miss the first game back, playing in an under 23 match to get fitness. I'd then expect him to be in the mix for the following Sunday, some two and a half weeks after the transfer deadline.

Also – this Okaka stuff is barmy and likely bullshit. I wonder, though, if Koeman saw Sandro as a Lukaku replacement, but has thought better of it of late, as our focus has moved away from a back up striker (Niang) to a starter (Vardy, Costa etc).

James Watts
32 Posted 30/08/2017 at 01:56:33
Hope you're right Jim. Agreed its still unlikely but a fully fit Costa would be an amazing signing for us. Albeit until January or hopefully next summer.

I watched Okaka in their first game of the season against the RS. He looked tremendous for 20 mins then disappeared. Seems like a perfect replacement for Lukaku based on that evidence.

Steve Ferns
33 Posted 30/08/2017 at 02:18:53
Another yard dog.
Steve Ferns
34 Posted 30/08/2017 at 02:20:12
I take it you guys have not seen the videos of Costa training on the beach in Brazil?
James Watts
35 Posted 30/08/2017 at 02:24:46
I've heard the reports Steve, hence the worry I detailed above about a loan until January. Whether they are true? Not sure. I'd much prefer Jim's theory to be true than mine!
Sean McCarthy
36 Posted 30/08/2017 at 02:50:36
Seriously??? Is that the level we are at???

If so, then we should be demanding the resignation of Steve Walsh for starters. He was meant to be the man with all the contacts as the club moved forward. The best he can find is a big lump of lard from Watford reserves??

Ashley Roberts
37 Posted 30/08/2017 at 02:53:42
Replacing Lukaku with Okaka says it all for me!!! Chalk and cheese. What a situation to be in with 2 days of the transfer window still open. How many other teams in the Premier League do not have a recognized striker???
Todd Scott
38 Posted 30/08/2017 at 02:56:56
This is a piss-take...

Okaka?!?!

Come on!!!!

Lu-Kaku to Oh-Kaka! It's a twist on names and 100% a wind-up

If not I'm ok-kay with it...

Dear me.

David Barks
39 Posted 30/08/2017 at 02:58:02
An absolute disgrace.
Phil Smith
40 Posted 30/08/2017 at 03:04:50
How about a cheeky bid for David Villa? Banging them in in the US. Better than this beast, surely.
William Cartwright
41 Posted 30/08/2017 at 03:42:53
Worried? Yes, a bit. But even if the striker has been identified he will not be announced until last thing on Thursday. Theatrical dramatics and all that. Chill out guys!
Kristian Boyce
42 Posted 30/08/2017 at 03:51:27
The whole world knew Lukaku was leaving this summer, and was wrapped up pretty early in the transfer window. Other than the main targets for his replacement didn't materialize, there is no other excuse for us to be in the situation we are in now. With Kone and Valencia departing at the end of the season, we were always going to be in need of striking reinforcements. Sandro and Rooney came in, but they basically replaced the other two.

It's absolutely farcical that we have supposed plans to be top 4/6 but are scraping the barrel with rumoured targets like Okaka and even Llorente.

With Koeman continually publically announcing the team's need for a striker, something doesn't sound right at the top level of the club. If we don't get someone decent in by the deadline, I wouldn't be surprised if Koeman walks. He has talked about the 'project' and the time limit he has to do things, if he isn't being provided the resources to meet these targets, he might think screw it! While a number of TW'bers would rejoice at this, we'd be left with a managerless under-strength team.

Jay Harris
43 Posted 30/08/2017 at 03:55:23
If it's not of the Dzecko, Dembele, Vardy standard then I don't want to know.

I just hope the paper talk is just that. Some of the names we have been associated with wouldn't get a game for Tranmere.

Victor Yu
44 Posted 30/08/2017 at 03:58:50
I got it now!

Jose Baxter was brought in to replace Lukaku!

It all makes sense now!

Where is the ambition? It seems like Koeman has been frustrated recently too when he demands the management to bring in more players publicly (he also says the net spending is close to $0 so far). I think he will leave after the year if we don't provide him more support.

Brian Cleveland
45 Posted 30/08/2017 at 04:28:12
Reckon Koeman is now scrabbling around on his desk to find Niasse's number to tell him to come and pick up his locker key!
Colin Glassar
46 Posted 30/08/2017 at 07:07:46
I hope we have a transfer window live forum. It should be even more livelier than a match day one. As for Okaka, I smell a rat here.
Adam Scott
47 Posted 30/08/2017 at 07:58:30
It really beggars belief that there seems to be so little plan for an eventuality (in Rom leaving) that was seemingly inevitable for 12 months.

1) it seems like the club put all their eggs into a punt on Giroud which was always 50-50. Short sighted.

2) from the outside it doesn't seem like there is a list of targets. More like 'where do we go from here?'

3) does this scouting team really know European football? All of our targets seem to be Premier League players. Really limits the market.

4) Pickford, Keane good buys, but very obvious. Fair play on getting Sandro. Klaassen I feel is a step up on Davies ATM. Sigurdsson seems an expensive square peg for a round hole. I question Koeman's knowledge of what he wants and players on the market.

Derek Knox
48 Posted 30/08/2017 at 08:10:48
With you there on that one Colin, we've had some laughs on them before, maybe Lyndon or Michael, may open the forum on Thursday, it certainly is a bit of a nailbiter, to say the least.

I am optimistic though, that we will get someone, of a decent pedigree, age and hopefully, not too much baggage, over the line, before the clock strikes ' We're doomed '.

All in all, I think we haven't done too badly with the admissions department, although the jury is out on a couple of them. Why, why, Delilah,do we leave it to this late stage, to get arguably the most important one, (ie; the goalscorer) till last.

Just before I close, I did mention on another post, that I do think we have missed a decent player for £7-8M in Kieran Gibbs, who couldn't agree personal terms with Watford, and now looks to have been snapped up by WBA, just saying as a point of interest.

Ian Bennett
49 Posted 30/08/2017 at 08:10:57
Is it April 1st? Could he challenge Brett Angel, John Spencer and Co as the worst centre forward of all time?

Time will tell

Colin Glassar
50 Posted 30/08/2017 at 08:16:12
Too many disparate and conflicting threads Derek, makes it all a bit confusing. The live forum would make it more coherent and fun.
Christopher Marston
51 Posted 30/08/2017 at 08:17:12
I think I'll be happy if we forget a new striker for now and concentrate going all out on getting Van Dijk to make the defence stronger.
Derek Knox
52 Posted 30/08/2017 at 08:18:57
Forgot to mention, on a lighter note,that maybe the pursuit of this guy, it makes it easier to change the left over shirts with Lukaku on, to Okaka, other than that I can't imagine why we would be interested at all.
Paul Smith
53 Posted 30/08/2017 at 08:23:42
We're not even getting close in our attempts to replace Rom. I wont expect any improvement on last year still believe Leicester will finish higher than us.

While we have definetely added quality the one gaping hole is in attack. Seems like all our energy went in to Gilfi.

Denver Daniels
54 Posted 30/08/2017 at 08:24:36
I'd rather we sign JJ Okocha.
Bill Watson
55 Posted 30/08/2017 at 08:40:32
Kieran Gibbs? No thanks: another sick note who can't defend, anyway.
Gerard Carey
56 Posted 30/08/2017 at 08:46:27
I know, let's make a bid for Yakubu. Back in training, knows where the goal is, and is only 29ish!!!???. All paper rubbish.
Craig Walker
57 Posted 30/08/2017 at 08:55:08
Would like Dzeko or Vardy. Proven Premier League goalscorers. Think we're more likely to get a Valencia type loan deal. Why does it always come down to the last day with Everton?
Kevin Tully
58 Posted 30/08/2017 at 08:56:05
Drinkwater has handed a transfer request in at Leicester, and it looks as though Mahrez could also be going. No way will they let Vardy leave on top of those two.

Surely we have a decent striker lined up, ready to sign? If not, we are truly an absolute shambles...still.

James Morgan
59 Posted 30/08/2017 at 08:58:57
Load of shite. How would we go from looking at Costa and Giroud etc to someone who hasn't pulled up trees at frigging Watford?

I'm surprised we haven't brought in someone from Serie A yet.

Derek Knox
60 Posted 30/08/2017 at 09:09:27
Would have thought and hoped Kevin T, that a Club of Everton's stature, would be not only able to attract, someone decent, but not to have left it this late either.

We are all frustrated, well I say all, if not, we should all be, having left it this late, to get arguably your most important player over the line.

I am fairly confident that we will get someone, but let's just hope, It's not a journeyman donkey.

Chris Watts
61 Posted 30/08/2017 at 09:13:18
Oh for the heady days of June when we were the only team snapping up players. It really looked like we'd changed and we're going to challenge the top teams.

Fast forward and Liverpool are buying keita van dyke and lemar, Man U took lukaku and normal service is truely resumed with us scraping the barrel the day before the deadline closes. Depressing stuff.

Niall McIlhone
62 Posted 30/08/2017 at 09:13:43
Type or paste your comment here. PLEASE capitalise initial letters of proper names and use proper grammar. No txt-speak; all-lowercase posts are likely to be deleted
Sam Hoare
63 Posted 30/08/2017 at 09:19:32
A fringe Watford player will not replace the second top scorer in the league last year.

We've got 36 hours or so to make what should have been the priority signing this Summer. A high class striker able to add potency and regular goals to what is currently a very limited attack.

Can't believe we've left it this late to be honest but if they pull a rabbit out of the hat then I guess it will be justified. If that rabbit is Okaka...

Kevin Tully
64 Posted 30/08/2017 at 09:21:16
Say what you like about Koeman, but he definitely isn't a patsy for an inactive board. It's public knowledge he wants at least two more in, a little different from past seasons when fans were left guessing.

All eyes on the boardroom!

Dermot Byrne
65 Posted 30/08/2017 at 09:41:24
Lyndon - Reliability rating bang on IMHO. That is a great feature of TW.
Dermot Byrne
66 Posted 30/08/2017 at 09:41:25
Lyndon - Reliability rating bang on IMHO. That is a great feature of TW.
Dan Nulty
67 Posted 30/08/2017 at 09:43:45
I'll be absolutely apoplectic if this happens. How in the world is this showing anyone our ambitions. How could we let Lukaku go and not have a deal to replace him straight away.

I know the goal was to replace his goals by spreading it across the team but you need at least a main focal point to attract defenders attentions. Our lack of pace and a centre forward is hurting us massively and whilst the squad is massively improved the team doesn't have a good balance to it in terms of attacking threat.

We had better be pulling ou tall the stops otherwise the preseason positivity will quickly disappear.

Dave Abrahams
68 Posted 30/08/2017 at 09:45:49
All the sparring in the transfer window will soon be over and the fight will soon begin, I hope we get a knockout player.
Paul Johnson
69 Posted 30/08/2017 at 09:50:28
Has no one picked up that it is the daily mirror publishing this .
Richard Hindley
70 Posted 30/08/2017 at 10:36:00
I can't believe some of the comments on here – way over the top and frankly ridiculous. Yes, we need a striker, and yes, ideally we would have wanted it sorted by now, but we've been very effective in the transfer market this summer and this was always going to be the hardest position to fill.

The reality is that we got lucky when we signed Lukaku, and getting a striker of similar ability is not easy – much harder than getting good players in other positions as they are very few and far between. I can think of Giroud, Benteke, Dzeko and Costa who've done it in the Premier League, all very hard and very expensive to get but I get the impression Everton have made approaches for all of them over the summer.

If we can't get one of these, I would say it's better to go for a loan (which would be the case with Costa anyway) rather than spend money on an average player, and that's what the club seems to be weighing up. So let's see what happens in the next 36 hours and then we can decide what we think about it.

Anthony Burke
71 Posted 30/08/2017 at 10:47:09
Surely we can do better than Watford's third-choice striker.
Liam Reilly
72 Posted 30/08/2017 at 11:08:16
Doesn't really add up compared to the earlier business.

I'd speculate that the club were very confident on Giroud and hadn't expected him to stay at Arsenal to sit on the bench.

It's going to be very difficult to get any quality now and the selling side won't be able to replace them.

Jimmy Daly
73 Posted 30/08/2017 at 11:24:22
Dembele in, Lennon going the other way on loan. Smalling to come on season-long loan with buy option.

Not from the horse's mouth, but from inside Goodison Park!!!

James Marshall
74 Posted 30/08/2017 at 11:37:37
The thing I don't understand is why so many people think the club is doing nothing, or has no plan – do you seriously think that, if it isn't plastered all over the rags of newspapers, they're just sitting around playing with their dicks? Seriously, have a think about it.

We used to be well known for keeping things under wraps at Everton, and Evertonians were rightly proud of that fact; nowadays, if you haven't heard about the latest shit dropped by Koeman, you all freak out about it. Then, when certain 'news' does come out, everyone freaks out about that too.

You can't win.

Rob Dolby
75 Posted 30/08/2017 at 11:47:41
I would rather we didn't sign anyone than this guy... give Calvert-Lewin a lead role and bring in the U23 strikers. If Koeman is happy buying a night club bouncer, we may as well go and buy Akinfenwa.

Give me young hungry players over journeymen any day. The Moshiri money isn't going very far, is it? Jonny Evans for £25m – the world has gone mad.

Gordon Crawford
76 Posted 30/08/2017 at 11:55:35
Another Kone, please no. If we don't get a top striker in then we are up poop creek. We have known all along that's what we need.
Derek Knox
77 Posted 30/08/2017 at 11:59:09
Liam @ 69, we are all equally frustrated, but I couldn't believe for one moment, that although it appears on the surface, that Everton would be that naive, to base the replacement of Lukaku, on the speculation that Giroud would agree to join us.

I do think however, that there was, and hopefully still is, the pursuit of a player, with similar status.

Furthermore, I know sometimes negotiations and work permits can take time to complete.

Now being the Devil's Advocate, and the assumptions above have any credence, I do think, given the time since the Lukaku deal, it is inconceivable that nothing has happened till this, the latest hours to get any deal done.

I do remain hopeful, that a surprise addition is still to happen, otherwise the others we have brought in have an uphill battle, to score the goals we would need to improve, or indeed retain seventh place.

Richard Reeves
78 Posted 30/08/2017 at 12:01:02
People keep saying we need a big lump who can hold the ball up and score at least 10/15 goals. Just go and get Dembele ffs! He's big, strong, can hold the ball up, good in the air,good on the ground, quick and a natural goalscorer. At 21, his value will rocket if he's a success (if the rumoured 20/25 mill valuation is true) but if not then the club will at least get their money back with the way the market is going.

I hope all these rumours of other target's are some sort of diversion and we sign him at the last moment as to prevent a bidding war but it looks like no-one is interested for some strange reason.

James Davies
79 Posted 30/08/2017 at 12:20:18
It's Costa on a short term loan. My source from the Swansea board told me Leicester and Everton were both in for Sigurdsson and the deal was always going to be done with Everton. The delay was Leicester bid more than Everton but the player wasn't keen hence the compromise.

Leicester met the £50 mill; Everton knew they had the upper hand and played hard ball. Swansea board were approached over availability of Llorente but Everton again unwilling to meet the demands. Not sure we are as flush as we are led to believe.

Tony Everan
80 Posted 30/08/2017 at 12:27:04
Problem is, on the last day, other clubs may be after the same player. Gambling with our season in the last chance saloon.

Hold onto your hats... Thursday will be entertaining.

Friday we will reveal all, Ronald and Steve will be donning their Armani suits and shades , basking in the glow of the fantastic signings.... Or standing in their Y-fronts, knees knocking on a rainy training pitch.

Terry Underwood
81 Posted 30/08/2017 at 12:37:31
Guy in my local pub team already has 11 goals from 5 matches. I can put in a word, could be had for a ham roll and a couple of packets of pork scratchings.
Julian Exshaw
82 Posted 30/08/2017 at 12:52:37
No offence to the player but surely this is only a rumour. I mean, we still have Niasse!
Kim Vivian
83 Posted 30/08/2017 at 12:54:05
Is this fucking serious?

As things are looking a bit desperate, would a Remy plus cash deal with Chelsea not work for Barkley? Or some deal involving Batshuayi, like maybe a straight swap?

Anthony Dwyer
84 Posted 30/08/2017 at 12:56:11
Ffs, this clown on loan puts us back in the laughing stock bracket.

One of the best strikers in Europe has just left us for big money, he made it clear he was leaving over 4 months ago yet we still haven't sorted a replacement with a day to go.

Being linked with Okaka on loan is a huge disappointment; signing him is a absolute joke.

Ray Roche
85 Posted 30/08/2017 at 12:58:30
Kim, I'd be delighted if we could get Batshit in, he'd have a point to prove and is the right age and build and with regular football could prove to be the real deal. Whether he would come though is another thing. But if he knew he'd be playing every week .
Paul Mackie
86 Posted 30/08/2017 at 13:03:52
Everyone still delighted to see the back of Lukaku? It's so bloody predictable that we haven't replaced him in any way.
Liam Reilly
87 Posted 30/08/2017 at 13:14:03
Derek (#73),

It was circulated repeatedly that Everton was in for Giroud, so I was suggesting that maybe they were given some indication from the player (or another player) or an agent that a move was a strong probability, but ultimately didn't materialise.

With the rest of the business done so early, it just doesn't add up for me why the club would've waited this long to fill a key position, unless an agreement has somehow gone south.

Kim Vivian
88 Posted 30/08/2017 at 13:26:40
See Vardy's being bandied about again. Good and pacy to be sure, but would rather see a 'target' man so not really bothered either way with him.

Seems that Chelsea and us are in for the same players – Llorente (who wants Chelsea)/Vardy – so, as said above, making a play for an increasingly unsettled Batshuayi seems like a plan to me.

Craig Walker
89 Posted 30/08/2017 at 13:27:53
The problem with leaving it this late is that nobody has time to get in replacements. What club is going to want to sell a top striker with just over a day left? When will Everton learn?

There was a point in this window where we had stolen a march on the RS and people were saying we'd got the better team. Who has done the best business now though? I know it's early days but I'd love to have forward players like Lallana, Mane, Salah, Firminho, even Sturridge would improve us massively plus the chance to sell Coutinho for £130 million. The only positive is that they could have got Pickford and Keane and been serious contenders.

If we don't get in a decent forward by close of play tomorrow then I can't see us getting anything better than 7th place this season. Once again, I'll be dreading the derby games and expecting nothing against the Sky 6.

As the other thread from a few weeks' ago states, given the investment we have put into the players this season, have we really progressed if we can only manage a 7th place finish again?

Kim Vivian
90 Posted 30/08/2017 at 13:28:29
Or – as we've already got the guy – can Walsh play up front?
Mike Davies
91 Posted 30/08/2017 at 13:40:07
I've said before I just can't see us paying big money for a forward, not after paying €40+ on Gylfi. Why we have paid out transfer fees of around €70-80M on 3 No.10s I have no idea (Klaassen, Gylfi, Rooney). Surely 2 players are sufficient and then concentrate on buying a forward who can link up with our shockingly narrow midfield.

We are now very unbalanced as Gylfi is not able to play wide left, no way. Rooney is not a target man, and Klaassen can only play in No 10 role. Don't understand. There's going to be a lot of expectation on DCL, poor lad.

My guess is Niang on loan with a view to buy, but could/should have been so much better.

Also what happened to a left sided defender? I saw Abdennour went to Marseille on loan, could have been an option surely?

The only hope is Moshiri has had all the deals agreed a long time ago and hes lined up his best mate Jim White to announce them dramatically on Sky as big last minute coups – oh how the mind works/dreams during transfer deadline time.

David Israel
92 Posted 30/08/2017 at 13:42:57
I have no idea if Leicester are prepared to sell him, but at this late stage I think we should go for Slimani.

More likely, we'll be getting someone in on loan, and that, I'm afraid, is travelling down the Valencia road again - even though I wouldn't terribly mind if he were still around.

Kevin Tully
93 Posted 30/08/2017 at 13:44:49
To plagiarise another site: "We've purchased all the bullets, but haven't got a gun."
Jack Ledwidge
94 Posted 30/08/2017 at 13:44:59
I think all signs point to Dembele from Celtic. The French move for him looks to have broken down and with Celtic rumored to be chasing another young French forward in addition to already wrapping up a loan deal for Patrick Roberts from City, I think Dembele's exit is imminent. A young player of talent. Proven goalscorer in Scotland.

Not the finished article by any means though but with such a scarcity of talent around would be a sound investment. He is an in the box type player unlike Sandro who in fairness puts in a shift and I believe he would give us goals. Probably cost £15 million – and although nursing an injury now I think would get us 12-16 goals this term.

Soren Moyer
95 Posted 30/08/2017 at 13:45:11
Watford's bench warmer as a solution for our striker problem? Can this club sink any further? Everton board should be sacked at once!
David Hallwood
96 Posted 30/08/2017 at 13:46:53
Knowing Everton, Terry (#75), they'll probably want the pork scratchings spread over 18 months.

Agree with everyone about Lukaku except I think Koeman knew he was going even earlier given there wasn't a John Stones 'he's hot for sale' statement. Perhaps this time last year Koeman had a gentleman's agreement of the 'no Champions League you can go'

If that's the case it makes not getting a replacement for him even harder to fathom, especially given Walsh's reputation.

But agree with everyone; Okaka is a No-Kaka, and everyone else we've been linked with sounds like a fire sale.

Kieran Kinsella
97 Posted 30/08/2017 at 13:56:03
I'd rather get Valencia back than these jokers. No doubt a Sky interview on Friday about how Costa wouldn't answer his phone after Everton put in an 11pm bid.
Jay Harris
98 Posted 30/08/2017 at 14:17:02
It is being reported this morning that we had a deal in place with Chelsea for Traore and Batshui plus cash for Lukaku but it was scuppered by Riaulo at the last minute who used Pogba to get him to United.

At this late stage I would even take Bony or Slimani in preference to this Watford guy and then get a top class CF in due course.

Brian Wilkinson
99 Posted 30/08/2017 at 14:17:44
You heard it here first, this is a smoke screen, Ronnie has been to a meditating class, he met the Marharashi guru in Bangor, sipped Camalole tea and is now full of love for Niasse and looking to give him a 5-year contract, the best locker at Finch Farm, and has even assigned Paul Burrell as Niasse's personal butler.

A lot of love going around Finch Farm guys. Now back to the real world after I have waved goodbye to Tattoo from Fantasy Island.

John Otway
100 Posted 30/08/2017 at 14:34:08
Comic genius Brian. It's camomile.
Amit Vithlani
101 Posted 30/08/2017 at 14:34:57
James Davies @ 74

"Leicester met the £50 mill; Everton knew they had the upper hand and played hard ball. Swansea board were approached over availability of Llorente but Everton again unwilling to meet the demands. Not sure we are as flush as we are led to believe. "

Err the last sentence begs two questions

(a) how "flush" did you think we were? Is there a press release from the Everton Board telling us fans exactly how much would be spent this summer?

More importantly

(b) How do you know what the demand for Llorente was? Perhaps it was a staggering sum for a 32-year old. Now I know this market has gone mad, but to prove how "flush" we are must we drop our trousers at the first time of asking?

Tom Bowers
102 Posted 30/08/2017 at 14:46:24
Rumours and more rumours by the media. Isn't it exciting to know of all the possible signings by tomorrow.
Probably only one coming in and a couple of outgoings. The question is which one ?
Personally I am disappointed the striker situation wasn't dealt with earlier when Sandro got injured but I suppose all efforts were spent on the Gylfi signing.
Nicholas Ryan
103 Posted 30/08/2017 at 14:50:49
I know it's stating the obvious... but the club can only buy, players who are available for sale.
Mark Frere
104 Posted 30/08/2017 at 15:09:23
I think this rumour has to be bollocks! (I hope so anyway).

I'm really disappointed we never went in for Iheanacho - that's a player that would've added pace, power and goals to our attack... something we look very short on at the moment. Although, I'm hoping we see a drastic improvement from Sandro - I watched him a few times for Malaga last season and was very impressed by his workrate and general centre forward play - he can be a real handful. And he did have a very impressive goal-scoring record for a average team in a good league.

Dembele was never my first choice addition at the start of the Transfer Window because I'm always weary of players who are prolific in the SPL and then expected to carry their form over to the PL - we only have to look at our own experiences of Jelavic and Naismith.

Dembele is quicker and has more technical ability than those two though, and at this stage of the Transfer Window, he might be about our best gamble.

John Pierce
105 Posted 30/08/2017 at 15:11:23
With most internationals on duty, away from the uk. The pot pf available players is slim.

Are we surprised we are linked with flotsum and jetsam?

Shane Corcoran
106 Posted 30/08/2017 at 15:11:42
I think he's pretty good. Big, fast and can finish. Injuries might be an issue though.
Paul Kossoff
107 Posted 30/08/2017 at 15:12:32
Kieran Gibbs to Wba for £7 million! What the fk are these jokers Walsh and Koeman doing? Gale £15 million from Newcastle available,
I'm really getting pissed off with the dopes at Everton now, every one we have brought in is either over priced or not good enough.
Van Persie next I bet.
Barry Williams
108 Posted 30/08/2017 at 15:14:21
Paul Johnson - 69

and this is why they can publish such sh!t! cos people believe it or at least discuss it, thus giving it credence!

John G Davies
109 Posted 30/08/2017 at 15:30:25
Gale?

Please tell me your on the wind up.

Paul Kossoff
110 Posted 30/08/2017 at 15:37:02
John 109, Sandro, D l c, Gale is better than both, you may end up saying, "oh I wish we had bought Gale." with the way Mutt and Jeff are acting!
John G Davies
111 Posted 30/08/2017 at 15:52:22
Paul, you have made decision that based on watching an unfit Sandro play twice?
James Morgan
112 Posted 30/08/2017 at 16:04:38
Could be nothing but odds have been slashed on Werner coming to us. Not sure they would sell this late.
Daniel Lim
113 Posted 30/08/2017 at 16:12:56
Gibbs? Is he any good?
Kim Vivian
114 Posted 30/08/2017 at 16:20:59
James - Timo Werner? Can't see that happening but it would make my day tomorrow.

Is he even available? I think the RS were after him but Leipzig weren't selling?

Carl Allan
115 Posted 30/08/2017 at 16:22:53
We need to start acting big to be taken seriously by the press and media and other top clubs as we are still seen as guaranteed points when we visit the top six sides. The redshite are flexing their muscles in the transfer market now with record bids left,?right and centre to make sure they stay in the top 4.

With Arsenal on the slide nowadays we should be doing more than just spending the Lukaku money on a few untried foreigners and an overpriced keeper if we have any real ambitions.
Paul Kossoff
116 Posted 30/08/2017 at 16:41:13
John 111, Ronnie Goodlass said that Sandro is all day long Never.. a striker! I'm not saying he's no good, but Lukaku,s replacement? surely not. We are scraping the barrel now with little time left, being linked with bums. Dlc and Sandro will not get us in to the top six, any better ideas? seeing as the transfer well seems to have run dry unless we sell someone.
Gary Edwards
117 Posted 30/08/2017 at 16:44:43
Timo Werner is certainly the quality that we need, however I don't see it happening, we're not that fortunate . but Lukaku was a last minute loan and that worked out well. Can lightening strike twice ?
John G Davies
118 Posted 30/08/2017 at 16:47:01
Do you think the 5foot 9inch Gale could lead the line Paul?

He plays off a striker, same as Sandro eventually will.

Craig Harrison
119 Posted 30/08/2017 at 16:54:25
Rumours are that Palace are in for Sakho from West Ham, Does that mean Benteke is available? Could do a lot worse.
Brian Williams
120 Posted 30/08/2017 at 17:02:49
Timo Werner? I fucking hate it when players like this are linked and stupidly I get my hopes up thinking "Ooh what if though" only for us to end up with Tim Warner from Halewood Vets!!!

PS. If there IS a Tim Warner and a Halewood Vets, my apologies.

James Morgan
121 Posted 30/08/2017 at 17:08:54
Kim, it's unlikely but we live in hope. It was Keita from RB Leipzig who they were chasing and ultimately landed for next year.
Brian Williams
122 Posted 30/08/2017 at 17:11:54
Just watching Jim White on Sky to see if he mentions anything but can't seem to concentrate for a couple of reasons!
Steve Jenkins
123 Posted 30/08/2017 at 17:18:42
It's beginning to feel more & more ominous & that all the good work the Board had done early in the window, will now be underdone by musing a key component of the jigsaw.

This is the "new" Everton feeling everybody had in June, now feels very much like the old one in Aug, & that upbeat feeling for this season has gone.

I'm amazed that with all the strikers being linked we're not getting linked with Dembele of Celtic who would seem the best & possibly one of least difficult to achieve in getting done.

That would be more of a statement signing and would definitely show the club means business.

As others have stated I'm not convinced that we aren't close off our budget, which is perhaps restricting us to who we can go for.

We'll soon know tomorrow but looking at what options are available I'm really struggling to see us getting anybody in that doesn't fall into the - he'll do for now category.

We need a strong, powerful, striker with pace (Dembele).

If we only get a target man then we'll still be lacking pace and will need & winger as well.

Gary Heywood
124 Posted 30/08/2017 at 17:21:04
This is insane. All this business should have been done ASAP when Lukaku went. We've always needed at least 2 focal point strikers and one of those needed to be a class 20 goals a season striker. Koeman's idea of getting Lukakus goals from midfield is nonsense without a focal point striker. The mid 80s midfield wouldn't have got their goals without the quality of Sharp.
We are now in a desperate situation and the money spent on our midfield may be non productive if a top striker or two is not brought in by tomorrow night.
If that doesn't happen then maybe an Okaka/Deney combination should be brought in as a short term quick fix until January.
Disgusted by EFC. Still shambolic in the transfer market.
Bobby Mallon
125 Posted 30/08/2017 at 17:29:46
We might be where we are because no one actually wants to join us.
Bobby Mallon
126 Posted 30/08/2017 at 17:32:16
Can someone anyone please name me a 20 goal a season striker that people on here keep bantering on about, I mean who are these men who are knocking at our door.
David Barks
127 Posted 30/08/2017 at 17:33:28
Bobby,

Maybe you should direct that question at all the people who constantly went on about how overrated Lukaku was and that he was easily replaceable.

James Hughes
128 Posted 30/08/2017 at 17:33:33
Most important purchase we need this summer is the ladybird book of "How to Play Football at pace" several copies and passed about to the coaching team. For our American cousins please check the link

Link

Dermot Byrne
129 Posted 30/08/2017 at 17:34:40
Bookies shortening odds on Timo. Also some recently graduated media student posted a story with his name and Everton in it and it is now on News Now and currently touring the globe. So a dead cert then.

Am having an internal struggle between my illogical but ever present optimism and some kind of TW digital implant that is saying we are doomed.

Natural optimism still winning but TW implant has huge multimedia companies behind it. Is it this that is suggesting I blame North Korea and US black people for lack of a striker? I don't know as they've nicked my mind and I now have to apply for a thought.

Can I remain me? Is this appropriate for a footy forum?

Kim Vivian
130 Posted 30/08/2017 at 17:34:44
James, I thought they were nosing around Werner as well, but I may be recalling that wrong. Anyway, one can but hope...

Don't actually know where this is coming from but you mentioned a shortening of odds somewhere so I latched onto it. Optimist that I am!

Nigel Munford
131 Posted 30/08/2017 at 17:44:22
John @ 105, flotsam and jetsam, not heard those rumours who do they play for, are they any good? I had heard they are a bit rubbish, just floating around waiting to be picked up.
Jack Convery
132 Posted 30/08/2017 at 17:45:46
We are Everton we will try and get Vardy, Llorente, Giroud et al but they wouldn't come or their club said do one. So we got this fella on loan, recommended by his agent and comes very cheap. He's tall, has two legs, jumps a bit and knows the ball is the round thing Pickford launches up the field from time to time. He's been on the bench for a year or two but in his day he can run any defence ragged in Zambia or was it the Zingari League. Anyway RK is reasonably happy and the board are very happy as he's a lot cheaper than Valancia and he's paid his alimony on time for the past 6 months.
Karl Masters
133 Posted 30/08/2017 at 17:49:40
Very interesting last day coming up .get your spies at the airport and Finch Farm ready.
Jay Harris
134 Posted 30/08/2017 at 17:51:03
Dermot,
Post of the day for me
Jack Convery
135 Posted 30/08/2017 at 17:53:53
Dermot get silver foil and put it over your head stops all the crap from entering the brain. Ivana Trump swears by it.
Sam Hoare
136 Posted 30/08/2017 at 18:08:11
Time Werner?! I wish!!

I highly doubt out striker coming tomorrow will be of that quality. But fingers crossed. Maybe there was a master plan all along!

It's gonna be Jermain Beckford isn't it...

Dermot Byrne
137 Posted 30/08/2017 at 18:08:47
Thanks Jack...off to shops
Colin Glassar
138 Posted 30/08/2017 at 18:15:56
Get sodding Dembele in (I've been told they'll accept anything between £25-30m) and forget the rest of these donkeys we're being connected to.

If not I'm going to break every telly in the house tomorrow.

Ian Burns
139 Posted 30/08/2017 at 18:26:03
Your posh Colin, how many tellys have you got?
Gary Heywood
140 Posted 30/08/2017 at 18:27:51
Post131
Okaka did tear our defence apart last season- 2 goals, one a classy flick in. Just saying...
Jay Harris
141 Posted 30/08/2017 at 18:27:53
None after tomorrow Ian!!
Ian Burns
142 Posted 30/08/2017 at 18:29:35
Haha, very good response Jay
Jimmy Sørheim
143 Posted 30/08/2017 at 18:31:43
This is great.

I just can not buy this nonsense anymore. This is an abject performance from our scouts, and based on last season, it is only getting worse.

Colin Glassar
144 Posted 30/08/2017 at 18:34:02
Two 13" B&W tellies from Radio Rentals Ian. I'm still paying £2.50 a month for them. They are Grundigs, classy stuff.

Anyone else got a hollow, sinking feeling in their stomachs about today and tomorrow? I can just see Vinnie O'Connor outside FF, around noon, saying "they all seem to have gone home for the day so that's Everton's transfer dealings done for this window".

I'll happily eat my hat if I'm wrong but I can see this happening.

Andrew Keatley
145 Posted 30/08/2017 at 18:39:04
I think Okaka is being a tad unfairly maligned here. He spent a lot of last season injured, but I seem to remember him putting in a match-winning performance against us for Watford last season. He was also pretty decent in their opening game against Liverpool this season. Would welcome him as the Valencia replacement; a player who might contribute from the bench and start the odd match.

If we can get a Werner or Dembele or Dolberg through the door as well before the window shuts then great, but we definitely need to have a new No.9 at the club - in spite of the excellent early season from of Calvert-Lewin (who I think has comfortably been our best player thus far).

Ian Burns
146 Posted 30/08/2017 at 18:40:20
My hope is the potential Ross deal with Chelsea will bring their striker Batshuayi back the our way.
Brent Stephens
147 Posted 30/08/2017 at 18:41:31
Colin "If not I'm going to break every telly in the house tomorrow". Your first or second home?
John Audsley
148 Posted 30/08/2017 at 18:57:59
Sooooooooo

We need to sign 3 blokes tomorrow.

What are the odds on that then?

David Israel
149 Posted 30/08/2017 at 19:00:42
Despair sinks in all-round. The doom-lifters will soon join these here pages, with tales of friend-who-knows-aunt-of-Finch Farm doorman's-wife-just-told-well-known-striker-spotted-there.

That will keep us going until 11 p.m. tomorrow, when all hell will break loose, and Colin McAleny will be brought back from Highbury (yes, Highbury, not the Emirates).

Gordon Crawford
150 Posted 30/08/2017 at 19:02:04
John (146) we will get three blokes easy, but they might not be footballers. :p
John Audsley
151 Posted 30/08/2017 at 19:05:46
Not tease me Gordon.

You know we will sign 1 on loan and the other 2 just couldn't get the fax sent on time.

I wonder who will be the first person to spot the Argentine footballer at John Lennon

Jamie Morgan
152 Posted 30/08/2017 at 19:07:43
My mate is a Watford fan, says all their fans love him and want him to stay. Holds ball up to bring others in and is a beast in the air! Isn't that what we need?

Him and Costa on loan to give Sandro and DCL time?

I'll get my tin hat ready for the abuse!

Dermot Byrne
153 Posted 30/08/2017 at 19:16:05
Fair enough Jamie. No shit from me. But I want HEADLINES .
Paul Gallagher
154 Posted 30/08/2017 at 19:16:42
I'm expecting 3-5 Steve Walsh's unknown quantities that turn out to be gems by 11pm Tomorrow night. I thought that was the reason why Moshiri brought him to the club for.
Jay Harris
155 Posted 30/08/2017 at 19:17:03
I am just hoping that we get somebody decent in and it is being done quietly but it is pissing me off that the other lot are being linked with the Ox and VVD and were being linked with no marks.

I thought we had got rid of the "Everton" way but it seems Bill's influence still looms large.

Gordon Crawford
156 Posted 30/08/2017 at 19:35:47
We can't be short on money anyway, as we have hardly spent a penny. Moshiri hasn't had to reach into his pockets at all. Money for Rom and others we have sold plus the money from where we finished has covered all that we have spent.
So I'm expecting Van Dijk, top left back plus a top striker tomorrow.
Dermot Byrne
157 Posted 30/08/2017 at 19:38:57
A new stadium Gordon. As a business that is where they will be thinking. How good for us now? Shite
Danny Broderick
158 Posted 30/08/2017 at 19:50:08
I was impressed with Okaka when he played against us if I'm honest. I'd be disappointed if we only got him though. But him plus another top striker, like Dembelé or Dolberg from Ajax, I would be happy with that.

It's incredible that we have left it this late though. We knew 6 months ago that Lukaku was going. Our first signing should have been a replacement striker!!

I have a sickening feeling that we will only bring in Okaka, or maybe someone Koeman has worked with previously like Shane Long. In which case, all of the good work done at the start of the window will have been for nothing. Like someone else said, we'd have bought all the bullets but we'd have no gun...

Jack Convery
159 Posted 30/08/2017 at 19:50:22
Squeaky bum time. BK and Moshiri are on trial over the next 24 hours.
Tony Everan
160 Posted 30/08/2017 at 19:54:16
Timo Werner , the odds have shortened !!!

What someone's stuck £20 on at 8/1 ?

I mean that's all it would take with the bookies of today.

Some of these stories are just piss flying in the wind.

Kim Vivian
161 Posted 30/08/2017 at 19:59:11
I think it's all coming from ToffeeWeb, lads. Not a peep from anywhere else. We're making our own rumours. I think its down to 4/1 now.
Gordon Crawford
162 Posted 30/08/2017 at 20:16:24
Sorry for the bad grammar, I was typing on the go. I agree with you Dermot.
Steavey Buckley
163 Posted 30/08/2017 at 20:18:13
According to the Liverpool echo, Werner has been added to the list of wanted strikers, while Costa remains favourite with the book-makers:

Link

Brian Wilkinson
164 Posted 30/08/2017 at 21:03:28
I wonder how long it will be tomorrow before a player was spotted at the Titanic hotel.
Benny Snow
165 Posted 30/08/2017 at 21:05:00
With 24 hours left the only "big name" possibility would be Costa. No other team is going to sell a top striker without a replacement lined up. Shame we didn't take the same approach, shambles from the board.

Look at Man Utd, Chelsea, and Liverpool all playing with pace up top and winning. We play like West Brom, slow and compact, with zero flare and looking to grind out 1-0 wins. Bring in Costa and still the problem won't change, zero pace, zero flare.

Our number one priority should have been a top striker signed before Lukaku fucked off; instead we signed Rooney and Sandro.

Then the right and left forwards, we should have opted for pace and flare. instead we sign Sigurdsson and Klaassengv.

I'm happy with Pickford and Keane. But we should have sold and replaced Williams plus signed a left back.

I wonder if Walsh and Moshiri don't rate Koeman after all? And see Everton's best chance is next year went Koeman fucks off to Barca...

Brian Murphy
166 Posted 30/08/2017 at 21:54:52
This is all bollox, all these links based on rumour and papers trying to fill well papers, I'm going to trust the team looking after the transfers these days and we are going to have a top striker in by this time tomorrow night. No panic
Christy Ring
167 Posted 30/08/2017 at 22:06:02
Tomorrow is D Day, despite all the rumours. If Koeman doesn't sign a 'Prolific Striker', which we've been waiting on for the last 2mths, it will be a complete anticlimax, and a left back/centreback?.
Nigel Munford
168 Posted 30/08/2017 at 22:14:10
I've just been watching some footage of Timo Werner and I have some concerns. He's quick, very quick, and provides a lot of assists, have we got anyone that can keep up with him, to maximise these attempted assist, I don't think we have. But it would be a real story if he did come to us.
Kevin Tully
169 Posted 30/08/2017 at 22:24:37
Haven't a clue how accurate a report in the Express is, but they're saying Costa to Atletico wont be completed in this window.

Perusing all the shitty rumours, I would prefer Costa out of all the names, even for a 12 month loan. Still think it's highly unlikely though...

Colin Glassar
170 Posted 30/08/2017 at 22:27:05
This is fast becoming THE worst transfer day deadline day EVA!!! I might have to go on YouTube or snapchat and have a very public breakdown.

BK, if anything happens to me during the next 24 hours I am blaming you!

Mike Gaynes
171 Posted 30/08/2017 at 22:30:05
Obviously Werner would be fantastic, but it seems wildly unlikely. Prying him away from Leipzig would make the Siggy deal look like pocket change.
Christopher Marston
172 Posted 30/08/2017 at 22:31:13
Cameron Jerome spotted in The Titanic
Barry Thompson
173 Posted 30/08/2017 at 22:35:12
Eddie Smith (captain material) spotted on the Titanic
Paul Tran
174 Posted 30/08/2017 at 22:37:25
Colin:

Pickford
Keane
Sigurdsson
Ramirez
Klaassen
Rooney

Don't think it's the worst transfer window we've had.

Two certainties tomorrow:

Whoever we buy will be not good enough, young enough, old enough, not a patch on Barkley/Mirallas.

If we don't get a striker, we will be told that Koeman will resign 'like he's always done.'

Gonna be fun tomorrow.

Tony Hill
175 Posted 30/08/2017 at 22:44:37
A great deal depends upon tomorrow. The stakes are really high: get in some real pace and threat up front and the season is very much alive. Fail, either by getting in no-one or a mediocrity, and we are going to struggle - like all sides that have no goals in them.

Simple and stark.

Tony Everan
176 Posted 30/08/2017 at 22:48:38
Titanic Hotel will be booked out at this rate.

We will have potential strikers sleeping top and tail.

Kieran Kinsella
177 Posted 30/08/2017 at 22:51:40
Colin

I'm just waiting till Friday when we've "inadvertently" balanced the books with the Barkley sale but Jim White explains we were hoping to tie up a deal for Messi.

Sam Hoare
178 Posted 30/08/2017 at 22:52:03
Bid made for Vermaelen? Great player if fit but has been massively hampered by injuries for past two seasons.

Would rather we went and got a long term option like Gibson or dare I say Sakho.

If we were to get Sakho (or another fast, tough CB) and Werner (or another fast, clinical CF) tomorrow I'd be pretty delighted! If we sell Barkley and loan Okaka then I'll be less pleased...

Paul Kossoff
179 Posted 30/08/2017 at 22:53:12
John,117 Gerd Muller 5:8 Pele 5:9, Jimmy Greaves 5:8, Micheal Owen 5:8. Maradona, 5:5. hight didn't stop them scoring did it?
Paul Kossoff
180 Posted 30/08/2017 at 22:57:17
Sam, 175, Sakho, please God you have been drinking and are not being serious! Just our luck to help the shite out by buying a pile of pure shite from them. He is a joke, why do you think Klop, even with the defence they have, won't play him?
Eddie Dunn
181 Posted 30/08/2017 at 23:05:38
Lazy bollocks- forget it!
Damian Wilde
182 Posted 30/08/2017 at 23:06:35
Joke that we don't have a proper striker. Typical Everton. Oh well Moyes, I mean Koeman can just pack the midfield 🙄
Sam Hoare
183 Posted 30/08/2017 at 23:08:17
No Paul, I've not been drinking. Have you?

Sakho was poor for RS but excellent last season for Palace. I think he'd do a good job and has many of the attributes we could use.

Paul Kossoff
184 Posted 30/08/2017 at 23:21:58
No Sam I've not been drinking, but I'll have a southern comfort please. I just think Sakho is a very poor footballer.
Fran Mitchell
185 Posted 30/08/2017 at 23:35:00
Sakho would be excellent. He struggled at Liverpool, principally because Rodgers was manager. Then there was the drug charge, later dropped, in which Klopp didnt defend him and their relationship broke down. But him and Keane would be a beast of a partnership. Big, Quick, strong, agressive Just what we need at the back.

Mangala on loan also worth a shot, If he turns well sign, If not get rid.

Colin Glassar
186 Posted 30/08/2017 at 23:50:31
I was being slightly tongue-in-cheek guys. Overall it's been a good window, I'm just prepared to being very disappointed tomorrow strikerwise.

If we had gotten a top forward early doors I could've enjoyed tomorrow a lot, lot more.

Colin Glassar
187 Posted 31/08/2017 at 00:05:19
Vlasic is reported as having arrived in Liverpool before his medical tomorrow. Vermaelen is also expected to sign tomorrow.

Not the top of the line players most of us hoped for but better than nothing. Now get a fucking striker in and we can breathe a bit more easily.

David Pearl
188 Posted 31/08/2017 at 00:15:11
Walsh has been simultaneously spotted in Harrods. M&S, Asda and Aldi... whats he bringing home ?
I missed the offy before the 11pm deadline... I'm fooked till it reopens, hopefully before January
Chris Watts
189 Posted 31/08/2017 at 00:40:42
And not long ago we had virtually no midfield. Neville and osman were regulars. Now we have at least 7 central midfielders. One left back (aging). Yes 24 hours to go and it's all a bit of a mess
David Israel
190 Posted 31/08/2017 at 00:50:14
Does this Vermaelen story have legs?
David Pearl
191 Posted 31/08/2017 at 01:03:19
It does apparently David. Interesting day coming up hey!
John Pierce
192 Posted 31/08/2017 at 01:17:11
Lucas Perez' name surfacing.
Shaun Wilson
193 Posted 31/08/2017 at 01:59:46
Vermaelen was excellent with Arsenal, but has struggled with injuries since his move to Barca, so my question has to be which player are we getting? A couple of seasons on the bench/physios table can't do much for a players confidence, never mind his match fitness. All this being said, I'd love to see him in an Everton jersey, and I hope he can recapture the form that made Arsenal and Barca buy him.
As for Vlasic, looks to be a good player but are we not going to loan him out immediately? I hope not, there's a lot of games to be played and who knows who will be heading out the exit door tomorrow, so the more the merrier IMO. He's been referred to as the new Modric in Croatia, and saying that we don't have that style of player in the squad currently, he should be given a shot.
Let just hope there's one or two decent strikers/center forwards to join these two lads tomorrow. If not, I'd like Mr Walsh to explain to me what the fuck he actually does for a living, or was he actually on holiday in Italy? Besides the Siggi signing, we've done nothing since the start of the transfer window. I know some deals take time and all that jazz, but why the fuck is it always left to the last day? Fucking mystifying. COYB
James Watts
194 Posted 31/08/2017 at 02:38:23
Shaun #192. Besides the Siggi signing, we've done nothing since the start of the transfer window

I know most of us are frustrated right now with no striker situation but really? We've done nothing?

I think I read if Vlasic signs we've signed 14 players across first team squad and u23s. You're a hard man to please if that's counts as nothing! Lordy me!

David Barks
195 Posted 31/08/2017 at 03:08:08
Guys calm down. It's the beginning of the window, we have weeks left to get in a replacement for Lukaku. Oh wait, that's not true any more, I just had gotten so used to being told that earlier this Summer. Don't worry, maybe we can find another third string cast off from Southampton. We're on the up don't ya know.
David Barks
196 Posted 31/08/2017 at 03:37:08
James,

Please stop, do not try to count youth team signings. Also, his point is quite valid. Since the start of the window when we completed a few deals, including Pickford, we've done practically nothing other than Gilfy. We've been told to be patient, it's early, there is plenty of time, blah blah blah. Here we are in the last hours and we have no senior striker. This going into the Summer where we already needed more than one striker.

James Watts
197 Posted 31/08/2017 at 03:48:55
David #195.

That is a very blinkered view in my opinion. How can you ignore the u23 signings? They form very valid pieces of business. I'm glad you guys aren't in charge of the u23's recruitment policy!

And why should we ignore signings that we're brought in at the start of the window? Each and every one of those signings were needed. It's like saying let's ignore what we brought except the last few weeks because they don't count now its transfer deadline day?! That's silly.

Sure, I'm frustrated too about the striker and its been beyond silly waiting this long to get one but it's been a good window overall. People like Shaun and your goodself forget that by stating 'they don't really count' anymore arguments.

Dennis Ng
198 Posted 31/08/2017 at 04:01:50
James, I guess I'm the only one who thinks we have the strikers we need. Perhaps not the tactician we need in Koeman but surely DCL have proven himself quite worthy. If Sandro gets himself accustomed to EPL, I can see him doing great things with us.

Another striker would make things easier, no doubt, but surely at this point it will just be panic buying. A loan move for Costa will be smart business, while Vlasic is a promising winger we can use immediately. I do see a problem in our attacking strategy but the problem is not manpower. It's the tactics. I do have a sneaky feeling Koeman will prove me wrong over time though.

Even if we do not buy a striker now, I think we will do fine. Not pretty nor easy, but achievable.

David Barks
199 Posted 31/08/2017 at 04:01:59
No James,

I nor he said those signings at the beginning didn't count. You tried to twist his words when he clearly said since the beginning of the window we only really signed Gilfy. The reasoning behind that is very clear, that many of us were pointing out that our early signings were done with the knowledge of the Lukaku sale money, and that was nowhere near enough for what was needed for the first team. But we were shouted down that the window had just opened.

So no, do not try to twist our words trying to say we are claiming the early signings do not count. That is not what we said and you know that. As for you throwing in youth signings, sorry, they are mostly irrelevant. Youth just does not translate to first team in any consequential numbers whatsoever. A few do, and the majority of those come up with some instant flash and then fade away. That's just the reality that is proven by decades and decades of supporting Everton and seeing the same thing around the league. It's first team signings that matter. Want proof? Look at the first team squad for the last decade and tell me how many came through the youth team. And while you're at it, do the same for the six clubs above us.

James Watts
200 Posted 31/08/2017 at 04:39:25
Well David #198. My take on what you both said was those signings can be ignored because they were made at the start of the window. It was certainly heavily implied to my mind but if that's not what you or Shaun meant then fair enough.

We need a striker, no question. Leaving it this long is one of the biggest mistakes our current board have done. And assuming we get Vlasic and Vermaelen what else do we really need at this point bearing in mind the way Koeman sets us up? I'm struggling to think of any - outside of fantasy land that is.

We'll definitely disagree over the youth signings. To simply say they are mostly irrelevant is pretty ridiculous no?! Sure they may not make it, but they also might make it. It's a risk, but calculated based on Walsh's knowledge. When we brought DCL for the youth side did you think that was irrelevant? Now look at him. We only need 1 of them to do well and that's another place sorted to a degree.

So overall and going back to the original point, in my opinion 13 signings (with hopefully another 3 today) is a good effort. Even if most of them where at the beginning of the window.

Jay Harris
201 Posted 31/08/2017 at 04:45:42
The odds have really shortened on Batshuayi, Wermer and Dembele.

I hope the bookies have got it right.

Personally I would throw a silly bid in for Origi and Sakho seeing as they are desperate to get VVD and we don't seem to be in the running.

James Watts
202 Posted 31/08/2017 at 04:48:36
Dennis #198. Yes my friend I think youre pretty much on your own thinking we'd be fine up top with what we have.

Koeman wants a target man so he can play the way he wants. We only have one player in our squad that can do that. And he's a kid learning the game still with only a couple of goals to his name.

Both Rooney and Sandro could play up top but neither would work well in a lone striker role. From what we've seen to date Sandro needs to be the second striker if koeman goes two up top (which he rarely does) or playing wide making the runs like an old fashioned inside forward. Rooney needs to be playing behind the striker. No doubt in my mind.

Therefore, to go until January with just DCL would be madness with the amount of games we have.

James Watts
203 Posted 31/08/2017 at 04:49:56
Jay #201. Fuck it. Let's get all three! Why chose! 😁
David Ellis
204 Posted 31/08/2017 at 05:00:52
Shaun and David Barks - have to side with James Watts here.
What is the relevance of the timing of the signings..."since the window opened" Surely the more we did at the beginning of the window the better so how is it a criticism that since then we have "only" signed Siggi (even if that statement were correct - which it isn't). Surely it would have been even better if we had signed Siggi at the beginning of the window too?

If we had signed a Lukaku replacement at the beginning of the window would we still be complaining about signings we had done "since "then? I don't think so.

So your actual point is we have n't signed a Lukaku replacement. OK - everyone agrees that this is an issue. There was time, and now there isn't. We may not get anyone in. I don't think this is through lack of effort or planning it just means we haven't been able to persuade someone good enough to come in. However agreed it's a massive problem that could make our season much less than we had hoped.

As for youth players - we spending quite serious money on them in the belief in the long term this is how to get the stars of the future. This is how Chelsea got Lukaku in the first place. Given the quality in the U23s and this deliberate recruitment policy I think we will see more coming through than in previous years. Frankly we have already seen more come through than in the past for example - Davies & Barkley (home grown), Holgate, Stones, Lookman and Calvert Lewin (all bought in as teenagers).

Before that we had to look at Osman and Rooney as the only ones who really made the first team over the last 15 years after. But it's improving now.

David Barks
205 Posted 31/08/2017 at 05:06:57
James,

last ten years, how many youth team players have come through to establish themselves in the first team? Henen, Tarashaj, Byrne, Galloway, Browning, Vellios, McAleny, Duffy, Garbutt, Gueye, Francisco Junior, Leandro Rodriguez, Lundsteam, Orenuga, Jose Baxter, Forshaw, McLaughlin, Agard, Vaughan, Akpan, Peterlin, Kissock. Those are some of the bigger names. To list them all would fill the entire thread. It's hope and promise, but not much else. Many will go on with their careers, but not here, and usually not in the top division.

David Ellis
206 Posted 31/08/2017 at 05:21:19
But David B - in the last 18 months we have Holgate, Lookman, Calvert Lewin and Davies breaking through and looking solid Premiership quality. Because we are investing more heavily in it now than before. These are a class above the previous cohorts.
David Barks
207 Posted 31/08/2017 at 05:22:28
David Ellis,

The significance was surrounding a debate as to whether we truly are in a new era or were those early purchases done with the safe knowledge of the price we were getting for Lukaku. That is the context.

As for the recent youth purchases, yes we're spending more money on other club's more promising youth players. But the fact remains they are not yet proven and still represent a gamble. Most are not really ready for first team action. Lookman came in and made an instant impact but since then has shown he is nowhere near ready. There is no guarantee he will be but we obviously hope he does. Chelsea stock up on youth from around Europe but mostly sell them on to lower clubs. It's well documented.

James Watts
208 Posted 31/08/2017 at 05:32:41
David #205. I'm not disputing that many youth players will not make it. I agree with you. I'm disputing youre saying they should be disregarded as signings because they might not make it. A first xi player also might not make it, so should they be disregarded too? I appreciate they have a better chance but nothing is absolute with signings hence I don't agree with your dismissal of them.

David Ellis in para 4 sums it up well I think. The amount of stat gathering, scouting and everything else associated with youth players in particular is second to none these days, especially In Everton world during the last few years. They are doing everything they can to make sure those young players make it as such as evidenced by the list David Ellis also mentions with most of those names being very recent.

PS good memory with some of those players though!

Shaun Wilson
209 Posted 31/08/2017 at 06:59:57
Spot on David Barks.

James Watts and David Ellis, I guess I should have been clearer and wrote " since we signed all those players at the start of the window". I , like both you lads, I'm assuming, was very impressed by our signings at that stage.
Then we sell our MVP striker, and get rid off his two back ups. DCL shows a lot of promise, as does Sandro, but we are talking about a couple of young lads, still learning their trade. Are any of the Sky 6 blooding in new guys like that? They are not.
Listen lads, I've nothing against the new regime, but when they start acting like the previous regimes, it scares the shit out of me. We've known since the start of the summer Lukaku was going ( if not sooner)and haven't replaced him with a proven striker.
Also, James, I'm not hard to please, I'm an Everton supporter FFS. I could have been a cock about the Vermaelen and Vlasic rumors, saying " why not VVD?" or " why not the real Modric?" I'm a realist, I understand you have to walk before you run and I understand that without CL football, it's gonna be hard to sign the big names. But the reality is, we've had plenty of time to bring in a striker, any fucking striker to help and teach our young lads, but we haven't and it's fucking ridiculous.
Costas been on the beach all summer, and we're making moves now? Give me a break.
I've been a blue for 35 years, and,if god spares me, for 35 more. Let's hope I'm eating my words tomorrow, otherwise it's new regime, same old Everton. CYOB

Brian Porter
210 Posted 31/08/2017 at 07:04:40
Just what does Steve Walsh actually DO? He was supposed to be the man who could unearth a few gems that would add strength and quality to our first team. He went to Italy, a well publicised trip and who have we signed from Italy? Erm...nobody. Hope he had a good holiday at the club's expense! Since then, have we seen any evidence that he and his much haunted team of scouts have identified or approached anyone, even if we might have been rejected?
Knowing we needed to replace Lukaku from well before the window opened, why was finding said replacement not given top priority? Sandro will probably be a wise investment once he adjusts to the Premier league but he is not a target man, or suited to playing a lone striker role. So, in the 'out' tray, we have Lukaku, Kone, Valencia, Niasse and in the 'in' tray we have Sandro and...erm... Well, that's all. If they had no ideas of who they really wanted, I would have preferred we'd signed Valencia as long term back up, but he would have also been an insurance against just the predicament we now find ourselves in. And let's be honest, we never got a chance to see him play even once in his best position as the main striker as he was always picked as a foil for Lukaku. It just seems strange that when playing as a central striker for his country he has no difficulty in finding the net, but both West Ham and Everton failed to use him in his natural position so he was never really able to make a good impression over here.
So here we are, the final day of another transfer window and as usual, we, the fans are left to wait and see what, if any gems have been identified and will we finally get the striker we've been waiting for all summer. If the window closes tonight with no front man being added to the squad (not including loans for journeyman PL strikers), then surely as fans, we will be entitled to ask the question I posed at the start of this post. Just WHAT does Steve Walsh actually DO?
James Watts
211 Posted 31/08/2017 at 07:11:07
Thats cool Shaun #209. Like I said to David I thought you was implying something different and yet that wording would have made it clearer. Well to me anyway.

You won't get any argument from me on the striker issue. If that's not resolved today then it's the dumbest thing the management in it's current guise have done to date. Hopefully we're all pleasantly surprised. Sometimes I wish I wasnt born a blue, life would be so much simpler!

Shaun Wilson
212 Posted 31/08/2017 at 07:12:18
I've no idea Brian. Maybe this time tomorrow night we will know
Shaun Wilson
213 Posted 31/08/2017 at 07:26:37
lol James ,yes,it would be a lot simpler, a lot fucking simpler! I wasn't born a blue, my da is a Leeds fan and I've 3 red shite loving brothers if you believe it! I wasn't the black sheep ( I hope not!), but there was just something about the blues that has led me to support them,through thick and thin, all these years. Let's hope we've something to cheer about tomorrow lad. Good night and I look forward to the banter tomorrow. COYB!
Kim Vivian
214 Posted 31/08/2017 at 07:59:11
Colin G - "...gotten..."?

Are you a American?

Colin Glassar
215 Posted 31/08/2017 at 08:01:21
Liverpool born and bred Kim. Gotten was/is very common where I grew up.
Kim Vivian
216 Posted 31/08/2017 at 08:11:42
Colin - I grew up up there also - Wirral - (born Tyneside, living Kent) but don't recall gotten tbh. But that's cool.

At least you probably don't say 'dove' (pron'd as in cove) instead of 'dived', and 'wove' instead of 'weaved'. Two of the most annoying bits of vernacular that crop up in novels by Americans.

Colin Glassar
217 Posted 31/08/2017 at 08:25:34
You gotten any ollies on yer? He's gone and gotten himself a nice new bird etc .
Kim Vivian
218 Posted 31/08/2017 at 08:40:52
Yeah sure. But would have been "got any ollies", "or gorra new bird". Still a bit of an Americanism for me which has crept in since I lived up there. I wont ask your age but I guess you're a fair bit younger than me.
Terry Bolger
219 Posted 31/08/2017 at 15:10:30
All we need now is the smokescreen talk about the new ground and our youth team. I don't think it will work this time...
Brian Porter
220 Posted 31/08/2017 at 15:16:11
Seems we are being linked with Lucas Perez now, in a straight fight with Newcastle. Surely he'd rather play for a club in European football than get involved in a potential relegation fight with the barcodes?
Steve Ferns
221 Posted 31/08/2017 at 19:41:51
Perez ain't good enough Brian. He's not even a target man, so we'd still be looking to replace Lukaku.
Jimmy Sørheim
222 Posted 31/08/2017 at 21:54:07
Why bother, Vlasic is at best a u-23 player. It looks like we are waiting on the Barkley money to pull the trigger on any striker.p>At best, we are a top 7 team; at worst, top 10, that is pretty decent eh? Isn't that the way Kenwright wants it?

Oh why is he still here? Didn't we get a new Chairman who has the final say on transfers at this club? This is sti;ll Kenwright, the cheap fucking twat.

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