That's the claim of Sky Sports' Kaveh Solkehol, at least, which comes quickly on the heels of reports by his news outlet that the Blues' major shareholder held talks with Sam Allardyce over the weekend and that the former England boss is on a shortlist of four.
Sky now say that they have been told by "sources close to Allardyce" that talk of him being handed a £100,000-a-week contract at Goodison until the end of the season are "totally inaccurate".
David Unsworth is another alongside a "top European coach" and a current Premier League manager, assumed to be Burnley manager Sean Dyche or Watford's Marco Silva, who have done impressive jobs at Turf Moor on the one hand and Hull City and Vicarage Road on the other.
The European-based manager in question could be Simeone, with Sky suggesting Moshiri would hand him another massive transfer kitty to rival the biggest in the Premier League, but observers in Spain have ridiculed the idea that the Argentine would leave perennial Champions League contenders Atletico Madrid for Merseyside.
Regardless, it's another name for the betting markets, SkyBet included, to push during the downtime over another international break.
Another name regularly mentioned in connection with Everton is Thomas Tuchel, the German who made his name by transforming Mainz and winning the domestic cup with Borussia Dortmund but he is believed to be holding out for the Bayern Munich post vacated by Carlo Ancelotti.
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1 Posted 07/11/2017 at 17:32:21
2 Posted 07/11/2017 at 17:33:35
3 Posted 07/11/2017 at 17:35:10
4 Posted 07/11/2017 at 17:38:52
5 Posted 07/11/2017 at 17:40:51
6 Posted 07/11/2017 at 17:42:25
Sky Sports report that Simeone is the choice - odds slashed to 12/1.
And so the circus goes on and on. The winners Sky Bet.
7 Posted 07/11/2017 at 17:42:45
8 Posted 07/11/2017 at 17:51:01
9 Posted 07/11/2017 at 18:08:33
Come next summer, well we did try!
It still means as well, that the Club intend to have another short term change, which will entail new backroom staff, a couple of panic buys as well as the ones we really need.
Then come next summer, the same scenario with whoever gets the job, smacks of knee jerk reaction to me if true, as opposed to joined up rationale.
10 Posted 07/11/2017 at 18:18:37
11 Posted 07/11/2017 at 18:19:03
12 Posted 07/11/2017 at 18:23:47
13 Posted 07/11/2017 at 18:30:22
Surely you can remember when 'we only just failed' to land Alan Shearer?
14 Posted 07/11/2017 at 18:33:14
Wasn't that long ago that City were being mocked for tryin to lure star players and managers to Manchester.
15 Posted 07/11/2017 at 18:46:24
16 Posted 07/11/2017 at 18:49:04
17 Posted 07/11/2017 at 19:00:18
18 Posted 07/11/2017 at 19:04:09
19 Posted 07/11/2017 at 19:10:44
Get it done and written in blood!!!
20 Posted 07/11/2017 at 19:11:33
21 Posted 07/11/2017 at 19:13:47
22 Posted 07/11/2017 at 19:15:27
23 Posted 07/11/2017 at 19:30:18
24 Posted 07/11/2017 at 19:31:43
That should be...
Someone spotted at John Lennon Airport!
25 Posted 07/11/2017 at 19:33:32
26 Posted 07/11/2017 at 19:35:12
27 Posted 07/11/2017 at 19:39:29
Doesn't seem to equate to actually being able to coach under difficult circumstances, such as a couple of injuries to key players, a drop in form etc!
The usual solution these prima donna's come up with seems to be a cry for more money/a bigger war chest so they can go out and buy their way out of trouble in the form of more world class players.
Unless you have a ton of money to offer any of the so called "class managers" then they won't come to a club like Everton and risk losing that status!
So it looks like were stuck with unearthing our own gem, someone under the radar, similar to the great work quietly being done at the youth/U23 development level.
Let's hope that we can build, make ourselves an attractive club, attract proper investment...and maybe we might be able to get one of these pretenders at the helm!
By that time, and with that kind of money, I could probably do the job!
28 Posted 07/11/2017 at 20:09:14
29 Posted 07/11/2017 at 20:12:15
30 Posted 07/11/2017 at 20:28:25
One can only hope that there is something in this. Only a fool would release sort of story if it were not true. Surely even our lovechild is not that stupid??
31 Posted 07/11/2017 at 20:28:40
Seriously, though... who makes this crap up???
32 Posted 07/11/2017 at 20:35:08
33 Posted 07/11/2017 at 20:48:18
Koeman has shown that spending money won't on its own solve things. I would like a British manager who will work with our outstanding youngsters , not a foreign mercenary who is only really interested in the money.
34 Posted 07/11/2017 at 20:48:29
All things being equal though Moshiri is Damned either way - Allardyce / Dyche a sign of lacking ambition. Unsworth unproven, Tuchel and Ancelotti not in the running and Simeone plainly ridiculous? Another garden path to be led down and the cynics having a field day as we once again do our impression of King Canute.
35 Posted 07/11/2017 at 20:53:32
36 Posted 07/11/2017 at 21:21:59
37 Posted 07/11/2017 at 21:31:38
I'm still waiting for Shearer to sign.
38 Posted 07/11/2017 at 21:31:47
39 Posted 07/11/2017 at 21:36:40
40 Posted 07/11/2017 at 21:41:27
41 Posted 07/11/2017 at 21:52:54
42 Posted 07/11/2017 at 21:54:06
43 Posted 07/11/2017 at 22:17:17
A ruinous strategy.
Get a temporary manager in now, then maybe, possibly get Simeone in the summer. Guess what, he may say no.
The club seems to be stumbling along in the dark, like a skint 20-year-old coming back from town at 3am with no taxi money.
44 Posted 07/11/2017 at 22:22:30
45 Posted 07/11/2017 at 22:24:53
46 Posted 07/11/2017 at 22:40:10
47 Posted 07/11/2017 at 22:40:49
Play 4-4-2, a settled balanced unchanged team and a decent striker in January. Not someone who wants another clearout and his 'own' team, constant team changes and formation tinkering which is utter bollocks.
The great teams we have had in The Premier League have been unchanged 4-4-2.
48 Posted 07/11/2017 at 22:42:22
Usmanov has had enough of being second fiddle at arsenal and has decided to sell his 30% stake to Koenke for about £700m. He plans to come over to Everton and along with Moshiri, become the major shareholder.
To boost the club, they dangle a £7.5m/year contract in front of Simeone as well as a shiny new stadium in the 2-3 years' time. In addition he'll get a £250m war chest to buy a new team in the summer.
I'll now wake up tomorrow to read that Fat Sam has got the gig for 2.5 years!
49 Posted 07/11/2017 at 22:50:36
Christ, West Ham have sacked and got their replacement in place and taking training sessions to try and right the wrongs. It's time to determine the clubs direction and stabilise things with naming the new manager.
50 Posted 07/11/2017 at 22:53:20
51 Posted 07/11/2017 at 23:00:08
52 Posted 07/11/2017 at 23:02:06
53 Posted 07/11/2017 at 23:09:07
54 Posted 07/11/2017 at 23:14:46
I still think Chris Coleman might be in with a shout as he hasn't inked a continuance with Wales yet.
55 Posted 07/11/2017 at 23:22:51
56 Posted 07/11/2017 at 23:33:48
Offer them £3m a year plus an extra £1m a year for every place above 8th in the league we finish.
We finish 6th he gets £5 a year. Get us to 4th and he gets £7m a year and we get Champions League football!
We win, he wins, that'll give someone the right incentive.
You want the big bucks? Earn 'em.
57 Posted 07/11/2017 at 23:47:30
I can not see any of those candidates taking us above where we've been in recent years. I'd love to see us go for the Australian national team manager Ange Postecoglou. He will possibly leave that job even if they qualify for the World Cup via the play-off against Honduras and I think he could be an amazing appointment. He has a track record of mixing a strong culture with outstanding results and I believe would have the vision to leave a more lasting impact than the others mentioned.
There's quote along the lines of if you try and win on talent then you'll never build an empire and I think that totally applies to Everton. If we do a lower budget of what everyone else does & do exactly what everyone expects then we'll end up exactly where we're expected to, in mid-table mediocrity. The fact that he's relatively unknown might be an issue for some but Koeman was the household name & how well did that go? Whether it's Postecoglou or someone else, I think the current options being mentioned show absolutely no imagination, ambition or drive to achieve better than what we've already got.
58 Posted 07/11/2017 at 00:05:39
Yesterday the owners of Blackpool football club were cited by the judge who found against them to have received £123 mill for their one season in the Premier League in 2010. In the seven years since then the monies for everyone in the Premier League have risen exponentially.
Thus, I assume nobody is going to sign for less than £6 mill p.a. minimum. Moshiri may be finding himself bent right over a barrel for the first time in his life and I guess he doesn't like it. But what to do?
Simeone is reportedly paid just over £5 mill p.a. by Atletico. He has to manage playing just Real and Barca in what are the only really challenging matches in a season in a warm, fabulously appointed city where everyone speaks his language. Unless he does a Martinez his team are locked onto constant Champions League qualification every season.
So what's going to make him, or anyone successful like him, swap all that to live in a cold, wet, depressed part of the world for a team who've serially failed for over thirty years to qualify for the Champions League actual, and proved to be unable to get anywhere close to major signings to challenge the six, not two, clubs who've had leadership enabling them to actually contend for the Champions League?
Before Moshiri appoints anybody he needs to get rid of Kenwright and his entourage.
And even that won't guarantee success, but staying with that serial, greedy loser and "his team" will merely ensure more of the same dross we've now had to endure for nigh on half of my 62-year life.
59 Posted 08/11/2017 at 00:33:14
Reading more about Silva, I think we'd look like Mark Hughes when he tried to lure Lescott away saying they'd go around Moyes... Crass. We may well get him, but it may well come back to bite us if things don't work out with him. He's only been at Watford for 10 odd games!
Dyche sounds unlikely now, fortunately... Because again are we really suggesting he'd take us beyond where we have been recently? It's a gamble, he's not proven at the level. Or are we just suggesting getting him into to fire fight and say good bye at the end of the season? That's a very expensive and risky tack, especially given he's only got a reputation because Burnley stuck with him after he was relegated with them.
Allardyce is like Kirkby. There's people saying we need him seem desperate... Let's not be desperate yet. We may well have to hold our nose com Christmas if we're struggling still, but we have to see where we are then if we're really going to press the nuclear button. Because we're going to struggle to get anyone half decent post Sam (I'm going to stop calling him Fat Sam given my outrage at Barton's comments about Unsworth).
Simeone would be great... But he'd be great in the Summer or possibly if we could prise him away in January - although it'd be difficult to land targets then, so it begs the question is it worth it and is it likely.
I don't know enough about the Australian coach, but I completely agree about thinking outside the box.
I also believe that Unsworth might surprise a lot of people. And if he doesn't, again, I think it's time to really łook at the overall structure of old boys and whether it's professional enough - but it's one of our unique selling points. Of course I'd love it to work out... But Allardyce will cause a cancer that will rip that all out - it's been bad enough with Koeman.
60 Posted 08/11/2017 at 01:02:09
Give Unsworth until the end of the season. If things don't improve by Christmas, reevaluate the situation then. Contrary to popular belief, I don't ever see us being in a hole we can't dig our way out of - there are just too many mediocre teams in the league. Come summer, give Simeone the godfather offer - if he says no, he says no. Then move on to the back-up target, whether that's Silva, or whoever.
61 Posted 08/11/2017 at 03:20:29
Maybe he'd like a challenge away from the ridiculous Barça/Real domination. Maybe he'd like a Koeman style wage package.
But why not try.
62 Posted 08/11/2017 at 05:16:27
- Not giving Rhino and Big Dunc a chance. If they cant motivate some enthusiasm in the team, no foreigner manager will be able to.
- Steve Walsh needs to go. Three number 10s and no striker. As head of recruitment, he should be sacked. Its his fault Everton don't have a first-team striker.
- Stop signing ex-players from Man Utd. Everton shouldn't be a retirement home for ex-Manc players.
- Farhad should have only sacked Koeman if he had a replacement lined up. This limbo Uzmanov (Arsenal) has us in is unacceptable.
Poor management overall.
63 Posted 08/11/2017 at 05:55:29
64 Posted 08/11/2017 at 07:25:01
But now? Moshiri updating the board on Friday over the manager position? The Simone speculation? He has the bucks to pull him in, but please god no! Not laughing spam fritter.
65 Posted 08/11/2017 at 07:27:54
Usmanov and Moshiri are planning an attack on the Death Star. Let's just hope and pray that the Sith Lord doesn't get his way and the poor Stooge Unsworth has to make way for Jabba The Hutt.
66 Posted 08/11/2017 at 08:38:02
It's a shame that so-called investor Moshiri is willing to act like a ventriloquist's dummy while Kenwright pulls the strings.
67 Posted 08/11/2017 at 08:47:27
68 Posted 08/11/2017 at 08:57:13
If Moshiri does have the intention of bringing in a top manager, the easiest thing is to make a big list, then go down the list one by one to see who is interested, and then either give the top one the job or interview the top three.
I think it is demoralising to hear top names being mentioned and then for us to end up with the likes of Allardyce, Dyche etc. Surely it shouldn't take too long to find out if any of the top top managers are interested and then, if they are not, let it be known, and then we won't get all of our hopes up. Fingers, toes, eyes and everything crossed for Simeone though.
69 Posted 08/11/2017 at 09:04:00
People still perceive us a a club just under the "big 6" but where were City and Chelsea, back in 80's until big investment.
We need to progress and if this was to happen along with the new ground, then in 5 years time or so, we would be viewed in a totally diferent light.
Onwards and upwards !
70 Posted 08/11/2017 at 09:09:09
like somebody said earlier, no outsider really gives a toss what happens as long as they get the big bucks.
71 Posted 08/11/2017 at 09:20:20
I still believe Mancini is the best realistic target.
72 Posted 08/11/2017 at 09:42:10
If you don't start thinking big, then you'll always be a small club - we are a small club, with a big, if now somewhat ancient history to fall back on.
I'm sick of history, and want the future and present to be equally as admirable, and the way to start that is thinking big. Moshiri seems to realise this, and while the reality of getting Diego Simeone at this point in time may be somewhat fanciful, the thinking behind is it entirely correct.
Everton supporters revel in our history, we revel in being the Peoples Club, and we revel in being the underdog, and we seemingly would prefer to be viewed as a cosy little club that people admire for all the right reasons, without ever challenging for anything - I've been following Everton for 35 years and I remember us being the best team, winning titles and being proud to watch us play. I remember, but I don't want to remember, I want to look forward with interest at a modern football club, not a stuffy old relic. Moshiri clearly feels the same.
Supporters need to get behind this way of thinking as well, and help drag Everton out of the past which we revel in. I really wish people would embrace the modern game - you can't fight it. Look at City, they were similar to us living in the shadow of Utd, never winning anything, a good family club that people looked on with a sense of fondness almost - a soft touch just like Everton. Well now they have arguably the best coach in the world, and the best team in Europe at the moment. I'd be pretty happy with that, and I'll wager you can't find many City fans that would rather be back at Maine Road watching Shaun Goater and Paul Dickov on a wet Wednesday night in the League Cup.
I massively doubt we're going to get Simeone, and would even go so far as to argue he might not even be the right man for the job based on this Link which highlights a number of issues that strike me as similar to those we're facing at Everton - issues Simeone seems unable to fix due to having his hands tied by the their transfer ban and subsequent lack of options till January - sound familiar?
73 Posted 08/11/2017 at 09:42:19
74 Posted 08/11/2017 at 10:14:01
If he doesnt want to come its a complete waste of time.
Maybe Mr M has had some encouragement from the Simeone camp.
75 Posted 08/11/2017 at 10:16:12
Real and Barcelona dominate everything in Spain and control the Spanish FA. They get away with murder with their dodgy own tv deals and get the rub of the green from the refs too. He might have signed a new contract on September until 2020 but contracts mean nothing nowadays.
Atletico are having a poor season. Griezmann is playing shite while their defense is old, they have been shocking in Europe too and might not make 3rd in their Champions League group, let alone qualify to the knockout stages.
He might want a new challenge or could get the chop which happens on a frequent basis on the continent.
Koeman was on 6m per year while Moyes was one of the highest paid managers in the world when he was year. We could easily afford his wages and offer him the prospect of a new waterfront stadium plus a large starting budget, plus theres our core of talented young players like Davies, Banigime, Dowell, Kenny etc.
Sandro is here too who Simeone wanted to sign but couldnt because of their transfer ban.
He might like the idea of silencing the red mob at Mordor and the other media darlings.
We could sound him out to take over in May with Unsworth to take the job till then or Gus Hiddink.
I know he may not be realistic but theres no harm in trying. We will never get anywhere with our negative views of our club and only be able to attract mediocre managers from the championship or bottom table premier league teams.
Look at Spurs, when Jol got the chop they went for Ramos who had just won two UEFA Cups with Sevilla, I know he didnt work out but he did win them the Carling Cup beating Chavski in the final. We were a better side than them back then but they were able to entice one of the top managers at the time.
City got Mancini, Pellegrini went to China, Rafa left Valencia who were one of the top teams in Europe at the time to move to a shite Red SHITE team.
We need to aim high otherwise wed be stuck doing nothing and being also rans.
Out of the managerial targets, Simeone is the outstanding choice. If we dont go for him and want to go British, Dyche is the only candidate because of his ability against the top teams and what he has done at Burnley.
Big Sam is an absolute no go because he will want a large contract, large back room team plus horrible shithouse football.
If Moshiri seriously wants “El Cholo” hes gotta go and get him and show the league and Europe that we mean business.
I am sick of us being everyones favorite second team and being too nice.
We need to start believing we can beat the best and become the best eventually.
76 Posted 08/11/2017 at 10:32:48
We are very silimar to Atletico in terms of our fan base & ethos.
We may be the best option for him. I cant see him going to an Arsenal & everywhere else there arent really any openings.
He is passionate & he will get us up the table!
Give Unsie until the end of the season (unless we really keep struggling - then as much as I dont want him, we may have to get Big Sam in or Hiddink preferably & let Unsie be assistant)
Whoever is our manager next year (Marco Silva is the most likely option, but as I said I wouldnt rule out Simeone) - Id like to see Unsie as assistant & then he could learn a lot & gain experience & then finally take over in 3 or 4 or 5 years time.
77 Posted 08/11/2017 at 10:45:40
Everyone dismissing the idea needs to understand that people like Farhad Moshiri do not become billionaires by settling for second best. They are astute businessmen and ladies who will not allow things to tick on.
He will want to make an impact and by obtaining the services of Simeone that would be a huge statement.
How much did Klaasen cost 28 million.
Let's give Simeone 8 million a year. He would be cheaper than a "middle of the road" player (Sorry Davy hope you prove me wrong)
The benefits however will massively outweigh this initial overspend as some will see it. I have said it before on here but one of the biggest advantages is pulling power.
Chelsea, Arsenal et al have the lure of big city.
Manchester United and city have top managers who players want to play for.
Do you see that if we looked at bringing in a European elite player he would be more tempted to work with Simeone or Dyche?
Now not for a second am I stating Dyche is inferior in his coaching or management of a club as I am very sure he is more than capable. But the simple matter is in the name. The pull of a top class appointment which can make the difference in bringing in top class players to your club.
78 Posted 08/11/2017 at 10:55:41
Pull a move like this off, and I'm firmly buying back into the dream. I wasn't even going next season, a couple of days ago. I am however, tensing up to be 'hoofed in the plums.' .again. (TM: E.J. Ruane)
79 Posted 08/11/2017 at 11:14:57
His appointment would signal ambition of the highest level but no manager (bar Mourinho perhaps?) brings the guarantee of success.
It seems unlikely to me as if he were available and wanted to come to the PL then I suspect Arsenal might sever ties with Wenger to make way but...you never know unless you try. If people want to laugh at us for being ambitious then let them.
At the moment i'm happy to give Unsworth some more time and see how the cards lie in January. I think there are reasons to be happy with either Simeone, Silva or even Dyche coming in then or even at the end of the season if Unsworth has the players really performing well.
80 Posted 08/11/2017 at 11:40:53
As for Simeone, he's one of the world's great coaches right now. Absolute world class. Not perfect, but world class. If he came and replicated his Atleti style, form and results, there would be some here who would not appreciate it. Watch La Liga when Atleti play the big two and then watch them when they play someone they should beat. It's still the same aggressive direct football. Personally, whilst I think Barcelona is better, the style Simeone plays is a better fit for Everton. We prefer the aggression, the direct play (not the same as long ball or hoof ball), tackles, and maximum effort. In short, we'd love him.
As for can we get him, I certainly raised an eyebrow at the news. MY immediate reaction was, didn't someone just say the Christmas shop is now open! We won't flog much with the news that Big Sam is coming in, but we can if people believe there's a chance of Simeone.
That said, why leak Simeone being on the list and then settling for Big Sam. If you want to make Big Sam more acceptable, to people like me, then you have to quash expectation, you have to make it a straight choice between Allardyce, Dyche and Unsworth. Then you will actually have some asking for Big Sam, as they were. To suddenly throw the name of Simeone in makes no sense to me, not unless Moshiri believes there is a chance. You don't put pie in the sky ideas on your shortlist. I certainly hope they wouldn't anyway, because then it's just a shortlist of 3 and one of them is Unsworth so it becomes a straight choice between Allardyce and Silva.
81 Posted 08/11/2017 at 12:05:23
Man City and Chelsea have had investment and then appointed the top coaches in world football who was laughing at them for thinking big?? Can Everton not manage the same with similar investment?
Why are we so negative? we're in a bad position right now yes but if we can get a few results between now and Jan then things could start looking a lot more positive. The new manager can then start to rebuild and shape the squad for a decent finish.
We wont win FA if we don't start throwing money and ambition at this "project". Someone like Simeone would demand respect from the players. Who would you rather play for, Simeone or fucking Sam Allardyce?
82 Posted 08/11/2017 at 12:13:16
Rita from Coronation Street.
See, anyone can make a shortlist. Means fuck all!
83 Posted 08/11/2017 at 12:22:59
84 Posted 08/11/2017 at 12:39:26
When the club actually announces the news then we can believe it but forget the media trash.
85 Posted 08/11/2017 at 12:39:51
86 Posted 08/11/2017 at 12:43:30
87 Posted 08/11/2017 at 13:02:53
88 Posted 08/11/2017 at 13:07:10
When the end of the season comes and Simeone doesn't, you then extend Allardyce's contract with the excuse that "well we tried to get Simeone but Fat Sam has guided us to a solid 14th place finish so we'll give him another year."
89 Posted 08/11/2017 at 13:15:17
Do you think it is down to two straight choices?
1. Short-term - Allardyce or Unsworth - with a review in the summer whilst we try to secure a big name manager.
2. Long-term - less aspirational name appointed now, on a long-term deal - i.e. Dyche or Silva
90 Posted 08/11/2017 at 13:18:41
Stop being so gullible please FFS. It is cringeworthy now... It's obvious we can't attract a big name, the state we are in.
91 Posted 08/11/2017 at 13:20:46
I take on board what James Hopper has said that it is a smokescreen to say we at least tried to get Simeone. But we were paying Koeman £6 million a year and he was the 7th highest manager in World football. The only downside to start with appointing Simeone is I don't think he speaks any English but that didnt seem to hamper Pochettino when he first came over.
I have no idea if we would get him, but I take a bit of comfort in as the days go bye it looks like Allardyce wont be offered the job. Otherwise he would have been here now especially in the middle of an International break.
92 Posted 08/11/2017 at 13:24:33
Basically, nobody knows.
93 Posted 08/11/2017 at 13:29:46
"For our club to compete in the north west of England, which is the new Hollywood of football with Guardiola, Mourinho and Klopp, we needed a star to stand on the touchline so we got Koeman. We needed to have a strong balance sheet so I have paid the debts so we have a very strong balance sheet, we are very flexible financially. And we need a big stadium, there is no question about it. These are the three priorities we had."
I don't buy into this BS that Moshiri is some BK puppet. He calls the shots which is why Martinez and Koeman were sacked. It might not - it probably wont - be the case that Simeone comes here. But to ignore the fact that we are now a wealthy club who can invest heavily in a top name manager is nonsense.
So keep Unsy in the job until the end of the season and take it from there. If he shows he's the man for the job, then great or we bring in the right calibre to take us forward.
94 Posted 08/11/2017 at 13:32:17
95 Posted 08/11/2017 at 13:47:33
96 Posted 08/11/2017 at 13:48:37
97 Posted 08/11/2017 at 13:49:55
But it would need to be ridiculous money and he would also demand a massive war chest to bring his own players (understandably as none of the current team, except perhaps Barkley, would get anywhere near a Simeone team).
There is more chance of Jabba The Hutt being the next Everton manager .... Hang on... what's that guy who takes bungs called... err... errr... Jabbadyce!
98 Posted 08/11/2017 at 14:07:16
Never in a million years is it going to happen.
99 Posted 08/11/2017 at 14:13:28
You could have got all the favourites for massive odds by now (with the exception of Dyche)
Unsworth was 25/1 after the Lyon game
Big Sam was around 20/1 at first
Tuchel has been as big as 25/1 as has Silva
Simeone has been around 33/1
Dyche has never been higher than around 8/1.
Could have made a guaranteed fortune on this
100 Posted 08/11/2017 at 14:18:17
101 Posted 08/11/2017 at 14:43:03
You can get Tony Bellew at 500/1
102 Posted 08/11/2017 at 15:07:58
103 Posted 08/11/2017 at 18:01:22
104 Posted 08/11/2017 at 19:43:43
105 Posted 08/11/2017 at 19:59:31
106 Posted 08/11/2017 at 20:10:39
107 Posted 08/11/2017 at 23:00:34
108 Posted 08/11/2017 at 00:06:18
All this talk of Allardyce and Dyche is really pissing me off - both totally unsuitable if only for different reasons which we've all talked about enough already.
Hiddink has gone under the radar so far, but in my view would be a safe bet on a number of levels. Vastly experienced, he'd shore us up and play decent football - very well respected he ticks a lot of boxes, even if only for the rest of the season.
109 Posted 09/11/2017 at 00:14:19
110 Posted 09/11/2017 at 00:39:03
Now it seems. (According to the media) we are going around with a begging bowl to get a manager. Surely the job hasn't become so impossible we need to convince mediocrity to sign up to manage the club? Sam f***ing Allardyce! NO.
111 Posted 09/11/2017 at 00:59:33
Moshiri needs to reflect on who it was that persuaded him to sign Koeman, and if it was Moshiri himself he urgently needs to reflect on who to seek advice from re our next manager because Koeman was demonstrably a disastrous appointment as far as the board are concerned.
That said, if he's looking for help from Kenwright's boardroom, Gawd help him, or us.
112 Posted 09/11/2017 at 01:20:44
Not a firefighter, just experienced steady hand.
Would be very happy with that.
113 Posted 09/11/2017 at 09:41:13
Reports from Everton today say that Diego Simeone was actually “in the building” in November.
The deal fell through at the last second when Diego got a phone call from Stan Kroenke. Arsenals manager elect refused to comment.
114 Posted 09/11/2017 at 09:58:24
Here's how I see it:
Moshiri will have listened to the fans and heard their concerns about Allardyce, who is probably looking for a longer term gig. Silva, is only just in the job, so won't be allowed to leave. Dyche, a good manager has done well with limited resources, but is essentially unproven. Tuchel (my long term choice) doesn't appear to be available, at least mid season. Simeone appears to have been leaked to the media, when Allardyce was heavy favourite. A good reminder that our owner is at least thinking ambitiously and long term.
Unsworth has had a reaction out of the squad. Baines, who is often a good bell weather in these situations, has spoken up for him. He won the PL 2 title last year. He developed the core of the side that won the U20 world cup. He has been relentlessly positive, which is crucial in building up the confidence of the players.
So, what now? The reality of the season is that we have an unbalanced squad and hugely talented youngsters, who need game time. Giving those players the confidence to develop, will mean Everton will have some tremendous talent ready for next season. That has to be an attractive proposition to many a top level coach.
115 Posted 09/11/2017 at 11:08:10
116 Posted 09/11/2017 at 13:59:00
117 Posted 09/11/2017 at 14:51:24
118 Posted 09/11/2017 at 14:52:17
Let's be pragmatic here. Who would be the best fit for our club?
Someone that appreciates the history while understanding the present.
Someone that knows English football and has experience.
Someone that appreciates the passionate fans.
Someone that is not scared to bring through and nurture the large pool of youth talent we are blessed with.
Obviously someone that we can afford.
Who fits that bill?
I would take any of those 3 (past RS history accepted).
119 Posted 09/11/2017 at 15:05:23
120 Posted 09/11/2017 at 15:26:57
When I read things like "Simone!! Would you swap a Rolls Royce for a Nissan Micra?" I just despair, I really do! I don't believe we are such a basket case that everyone makes out.
121 Posted 09/11/2017 at 15:35:02
122 Posted 09/11/2017 at 15:41:37
The notion that we must have a manager that somehow 'gets' Everton just seems so parochial to me, and one of the reasons Everton are still such a small club in the modern era.
Who cares if the manager 'gets' Everton? He isn't one of us, he's just the manager - it's our job to be passionate about Everton, not theirs. As the Echo link I posted above states, just watch Spurs or City with their Argentinian and Spanish managers play with outright passion and fight for the cause - it has quite literally nothing to do with being an Evertonian, or needing to know the Premier League - that's just a media term that supporters have bought into. It's bullshit.
All this stuff about the new manager understanding our history doesn't mean a damn thing anymore - we need to make history, not dwell on it.
123 Posted 09/11/2017 at 15:49:51
124 Posted 09/11/2017 at 16:04:34
Most managers know how to organize a team and make them hard to beat.
Winners are a different breed who know how to bring the best out of players and manage their egos.
Unsy might get us safe but I don't want to take that chance. I certainly don't want dinosaurs like big Sam and Pulis.
I want to get a top class manager asap.
125 Posted 09/11/2017 at 22:14:19
126 Posted 10/11/2017 at 12:51:16
This season, they will be out of the Champions League and no chance of La Liga title. Also, Atleti like us have always had to sell to buy!!!
Here in Spain many people believe that he will leave either in January or more likely end of season. So we shall see!!!
127 Posted 10/11/2017 at 13:31:35
128 Posted 11/11/2017 at 17:08:35
The PL is a ruthless shit-pit of stinking money-eating snakes and leeches sucking the life out of what used to be a beautiful thing.
We now need a manager who is respected by the players, who will have to be backed by the board .
For me the shortlist would be Martin O'Neil (with Keane), Chris Hughton, Arsen Wenger and Gordon Strachan.
129 Posted 11/11/2017 at 17:29:51
Imagine it: Unsy wins the FA Cup for us against the RS and then we get Simeone.
Am I a dreamer? you learn to be one as an Evertonian but I think I'm right. Not sure about beating the RS to win the FA Cup though, I think it'll be Man Utd instead with Lukaku missing a penalty in the 89th minute to equalise.
130 Posted 15/11/2017 at 09:03:48
I'm a Mancini fan but Hiddink or Ancelotti would be fine shorter term. Hey I would even have taken Moyes back for a few Months.
Like most I would have loved Unsworth to go on a winning run of 5 or 6 games and prove he's the man but he hasn't. There has been an improvement in the playing tempo which is needed. We don't have the players to play and pass at a slow tempo. I like his belief in the young players but ultimately that's his job as coach of the U23s.
A tactician at Premier League level he isn't, maybe one day but I want the best for Everton now, not wait another few years to see how it goes.
I think there's likely to be more manager's becoming free in the next few months but usually because they are failing expectations at other clubs. Ultimately I see no one better than Mancini that combines experience and a proven track record to win us some silverware.
For the record I think Koeman is a good manager but it wasn't working out. I don't blame him solely for the poor recruitment (or lack of) but I think Walsh is a long term appointment and Koeman should have got more out of the players available.
We have got used to being patient so I'm in no hurry unless we start to sink again but I want Mancini sooner rather than later. We aren't even a third of the way through the season. We can turn it around. Over to Mo and Co.
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