They claim that the Blues can get closer to the 28-year-old's current salary package at Arsenal with an offer of £110,000 a week.
Walcott's opportunities have been limited with the Gunners this season and he is expected to move on from the Emirates this coming summer if he doesn't leave in this month's transfer window.
In a World Cup year, the player might prefer to secure a move elsewhere to put himself into Gareth Southgate's thinking for when he selects the England squad for Russia.
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1 Posted 10/01/2018 at 06:46:24
2 Posted 10/01/2018 at 07:00:49
3 Posted 10/01/2018 at 07:27:08
The same with Giroud; when we were being linked with him; Wenger, who I believe to be a good Manager; only uses him as an impact substitute; there must be a reason why, as with Walcott?
4 Posted 10/01/2018 at 07:30:59
If this interest is real we have excellent medical facilities that would show any underlying medical issues hopefully!
5 Posted 10/01/2018 at 07:58:26
6 Posted 10/01/2018 at 08:01:14
7 Posted 10/01/2018 at 08:15:07
We've enough potential talent, what we need is pace and goals and Walcott just may have a point to prove.
8 Posted 10/01/2018 at 08:20:36
He'd offer pace but I'm not what else. I'd probably pass on him mainly because of his wages which will be astronomical for what is an average player.
Dembele and Batshuayi are better options for me.
9 Posted 10/01/2018 at 08:23:10
10 Posted 10/01/2018 at 08:31:48
I don't know about Dembele , scoring goals is usually pretty easy in the Scottish league but I think if the price was right he'd be worth a punt but it looks like Moshiri has his “last piece of the jigsaw “now in Tosun so should we just be taking all rumours with a pinch of salt anyway?
11 Posted 10/01/2018 at 08:36:11
Jesus, what the hell was Farhad on with this gobbledegook?
12 Posted 10/01/2018 at 08:48:51
However, as someone posted earlier this is Everton rhetoric barely matches reality.
In regards to Walcott, his agent is at it for a better deal, IMO.
13 Posted 10/01/2018 at 08:51:34
Good addition if used in a counter-attacking style, we can't have enough pace and he has scored goals.
14 Posted 10/01/2018 at 09:04:36
If, and that is a big if, he can stay fit.
Failing that, Batshuayi a better bet than Dembele.
15 Posted 10/01/2018 at 09:04:51
16 Posted 10/01/2018 at 09:15:59
17 Posted 10/01/2018 at 09:27:13
I also wonder why he was never played as a striker, as his pace and finishing are good, but his crossing is awful. Henry started as a winger before moving central, I thought Walcott may do the same.
I don't think he's ever delivered consistent top 4 quality, but he would add a decent amount to a mid table, lower top half team.
18 Posted 10/01/2018 at 09:57:50
Not sure how you fit Rooney and Sigurdsson into that equation though. Less Wayne? Or maybe both of them and Gueye as the defensive midfielder?
19 Posted 10/01/2018 at 10:04:48
A lad sitting on his hole most weeks for about £ 100,000 a week. Of all the players that epitomises what's wrong with Arsenal it's him.
All speed and fuck all else.
The 'fab four' comment was pretty lame and Theo ain't gonna make it any better, at least not for any longer than three weeks at a time.
20 Posted 10/01/2018 at 10:22:51
21 Posted 10/01/2018 at 10:25:50
Maybe he needs a fresh start...
22 Posted 10/01/2018 at 10:39:36
What I forgot to ask was an “Everton win at Anfield”.
Anyway I had a Christmas bingo win at my auntie Ann Fields so to hell with that voodoo shit, I can see why Rom got screwed over on his move to Chelsea!!!
23 Posted 10/01/2018 at 10:39:38
24 Posted 10/01/2018 at 11:30:26
25 Posted 10/01/2018 at 11:31:22
Coach's conundrum get rid of "too many" midfielders but end up with too many fast forwards! Who'd want to be an Premier League coach (xept for the money?)
26 Posted 10/01/2018 at 11:33:01
Andrew (#18), my thinking is similar to yours a front 3 of Bolasie, Tosun and Walcott, with Rooney and Sigurdsson providing the creative sparks and both are good in tracking back. Based on the past 2 games, I would prefer McCarthy over Gueye or use them in alternate games, like the 'rotation' system for pitchers in American baseball, due to the huge amount of work they put in in every game. If Sam can get us a new high-energy LB to replace the ageing Baines (my preference would be Luke Shaw which might happen, if Man Utd land their LB target from Juventus), then my 1st choice starting XI would be:
Coleman Holgate Keane Shaw
Rooney McCarthy Sigurdsson
Bolasie Tosun Walcott
Sell: Niasse, Martina, Besic, Klaassen, Barkley (done)
Loan Out: Baningime, Mirallas (done)
Backup to Starting XI:
Kenny, Jagielka, Williams, Funes Mori, Baines
Schneiderlin, Gueye, Davies, Lennon, Vlasic, Lookman, Calvert-Lewin, Sandro
27 Posted 10/01/2018 at 11:38:25
All potential and no product.
Everton helping another club offload someone who's never quite made it.
We don't need him anyway with Bolasie. And where does that leave the likes of Lookman and Vlasic?
Man City have only bid £20m for Sanchez and we offer £15m for Walcott. No wonder we never make that next step up.
Spend the money on someone who'll improve us and take us forward not on another aging reject that one of the top six sees fit to hand us down.
28 Posted 10/01/2018 at 11:58:14
On one hand there is a player there who has a pretty good goal/assists return in the Premier League and would surely add more end result to our wing play.
On the other there is buying a player who has usually relied on pace who is about to turn 29 and see that acceleration begin to diminish sharply in a year or two.
I think he would improve our team in the short term but to what end? Are we ever going to overhaul the likes of Arsenal if our first team consists of their ageing rejects? If Arsenal fans, who know him very very well after almost a decade, are happy to lose him to us, then I think that probably speaks volumes.
I think we are right to look for some players between 24-28 as we have lots of youngsters and lots of 'experienced players' but would like someone at the lower end of that range. Rigoni from Zenit has been mentioned and would be interesting. Lucas from PSG is unlikely but would be ambitious. Felipe Anderson from Lazio. Bernard from Donestk. Or if we wanted Premier League players I'd be more tempted by Lanzini or even Antonio from West Ham; or Zaha/Loftus-Cheek.
29 Posted 10/01/2018 at 12:01:20
30 Posted 10/01/2018 at 12:02:12
31 Posted 10/01/2018 at 12:05:28
32 Posted 10/01/2018 at 12:05:31
I'd be ideally targeting the likes of Mahrez, Lanzini, Loftus-Cheek etc but these players won't come here when they leave their respective clubs.
33 Posted 10/01/2018 at 12:10:18
We have to be realistic. What's the point in mentioning Sanchez? It doesn't matter if he only costs £20 million as a player like that will never come to us. It's easy to say we need players that will take us to the next level, but if they're that good then they'll be looking to go to a club that's already at the level that we aspire to get to.
Walcott scored plenty of goals last season and seemed to be in the form of his life. His injury record is an obvious concern but, when fit, he is a quality player and would undoubtedly improve us.
34 Posted 10/01/2018 at 12:11:34
35 Posted 10/01/2018 at 12:12:32
never had a footballing brain. I read that he never kicked a ball till he was teenager and it shows. has no natural instincts or game intelligence but has got by on raw pace which will decline in the next couple of years as he gets older. He'll just be one more player who gets the nod ahead of Lookman on reputation and we just don't need that.
Arsenal fans have never really rated him so if he's not good enough for them there is no reason we should consider him good enough for us
36 Posted 10/01/2018 at 12:17:21
Our scouting team needs to greatly up their game, every time we delve into the South American market (a continent renowned for skilled ball players) we end up with fellas that look and play like they have been dragged out of a Buenos Aries bookies!
37 Posted 10/01/2018 at 12:31:35
What is Walsh doing?
We have bought kids and hoping they turn out to be stars. I know Mahrez had 6 months in the Championship to adjust to the country but Lanzini looked sharp very quickly.
Watford plucked Richarlison from Brazil and he has had an impact; if less so recently.
Liked the idea of Walcott 2/3 months ago, but as others have said since Bolasie is back and with others in reserve there appears little need for such a player.
38 Posted 10/01/2018 at 13:02:43
People are saying we should be going for Dembele but he isn't proven in the Premier League... Yeah, he may be doing well at Celtic but Klaassen and Sandro were doing well for their previous clubs last season and they are now struggling to even make the bench for us.
People were going crazy over the summer when they thought we'd missed out on Sandro now the majority are saying we should get rid – so how do we know that's not going to be the same for Dembele? We're not in a position to be able to take more risks and the squad needs stabilising to allow us to try and take the step up to the next level!
39 Posted 10/01/2018 at 13:11:06
I don't have stats, and I hate them, but my general view is that he's proven he can get in the team, perform to a decent level for short period before losing his place again.
This sticks in my mind Link
Keane was right and check out Walcott's quote in the last paragraph. Cringe.
40 Posted 10/01/2018 at 13:12:32
At this stage of his career, it's almost like a Lennon signing again.
Where's our left back?
41 Posted 10/01/2018 at 13:28:08
Sadly, I accept that we are not in a position to buy him right now, but that doesn't mean we should be settling for a near 29-year-old who's never really proved himself for near the same amount of money?
As John (above) says, it's just another Aaron Lennon signing and we've already got him too!
42 Posted 10/01/2018 at 13:48:44
43 Posted 10/01/2018 at 13:57:10
I know that the Management are not on the same wavelength as our footballing expert posters but could we not get a couple of the TW great and good to guide the Board and the coaching staff on the Way Forward?
I'm sure they would appreciate the help. If only Unsworth had been paired with a TW'er and took the thoughts on board, he may have got the job on a permanent basis. Still he has to learn.
44 Posted 10/01/2018 at 13:58:24
His form went pear-shaped when he insisted he was a centre-forward and not a winger.
As someone mentioned, he just doesn't have enough heart and cannot play at wing back.
May as well stick with Lennon, Lookman and Vlasic.
45 Posted 10/01/2018 at 13:59:12
46 Posted 10/01/2018 at 14:06:44
However looking at Walcott in isolation I have always thought there was a piece missing with this player. As ridiculous as this may sound but I can't put it in any other way but to me he seems to lack instinct compared to such as Sterling.
Anyway, it is a big "No" from me but I am not Sam Al!ardyce!
47 Posted 10/01/2018 at 14:33:04
The boardroom 'Mafia' have yet to go for available 'name' players yet on top of a procession of failed managers are still happy throw more millions at another, yet to prove himself risk, millions that could have paid for at least one big name, if not a couple, instead they come up with just one virtually unknown, to most of us, in Tosun the Turk,
Realistically the only manager who has given us room to celebrate in the last few years,admittedly with without major honours, has been Moyes with several signings from the lower leagues who made it to international recognition as well as domestic respect, in fact he could easily replace Walsh as chief scout for Everton FC for that fact alone... Just a thought.
48 Posted 10/01/2018 at 14:33:30
49 Posted 10/01/2018 at 14:54:20
50 Posted 10/01/2018 at 15:19:35
However, Elstone was banging on about money per position and about how much we made from the Europa League despite our early exit (his words not mine!). I believe that the goal for the season now is 7th. Perhaps, the board view Walcott as a player to be signed to get us to that position.
I read the talk of Dembele above, and think you need to dismiss that notion. He's struggled this season. For Dembele, read the "Calvert-Lewin is incredible" comments by Moshiri. If Dembele came in, he'd either make Tosun a sub, or come in to be a sub and knock Calvert-Lewin back to the reserves. Play two up top I hear you say, not happening, no one does it, and we haven't done so for a decade or more with good reason.
Walcott is a potential replacement for Mirallas. A wide forward on the right of a front three. Far more offensive than Lennon, but I doubt Big Sam would play him as such in a game against the top 6, like last Friday. Therefore, he'll probably be a first team player, but a contrast to the more defensively minded Lennon.
I can see us signing Walcott, either now or in the summer, but I'd prefer to give more game time to Lookman and Vlasic. A left back is a bigger priority for me.
Also, would we the fans be willing to dial back our transfer expectations in favour of ensuring the stadium goes through? I know I would, I think we have quality young players and would love to see them get developed. I'd take a rocky couple of seasons, without any major signings, left back aside, and keeping the best young players we currently have, and trying to build a team for 2020 around them, whilst maintaining at least a mid-table position, but there's no reason for me we can't regain 7th and keep it.
51 Posted 10/01/2018 at 15:20:54
This season he hasn't played in the Premier League but has scored 3 in the Europa and got a couple assists.
I think he's worthy of consideration. He's 28 and in his prime.
52 Posted 10/01/2018 at 15:41:44
Although Walcott hasn't exactly been thriving for a few seasons, maybe the carrot of a World Cup place may give him the incentive so I reckon it would be a good signing; we need the pace.
53 Posted 10/01/2018 at 16:13:03
Not good enough for his average current club. Another coaster to get £110,000 a week for fuck all. Why are we consistently buying second-rate players and getting rid of the best ones?
My only thesis is that the goal posts have changed and Premier League survival is the only man in town. Surely, surely there must be better foreign players we can get a fraction, what are these goons paid to scout when they never produce anything?
Voodoo, Walcott, Barkley... can it get any worse?
54 Posted 10/01/2018 at 16:32:12
The pace of Lennon and Bolasie but with a much superior goalscoring record.
55 Posted 10/01/2018 at 16:53:16
56 Posted 10/01/2018 at 17:04:00
I noted that Walsh came on as a substitute in the 72nd minute and by all accounts, gave a very good account of himself yesterday in the League Cup 1st leg against Man City. He came within a whisker of scoring a great equaliser in the final minutes of the game.
It beggars belief that we pay millions for players like Klaassen and Sandro, and let go of our own promising homegrown talent.
57 Posted 10/01/2018 at 17:20:46
58 Posted 10/01/2018 at 17:35:29
I'd settle for Dembele, but priority is a left-footed left-back, and a striker, but who knows.
59 Posted 10/01/2018 at 17:42:05
Our Best XI would be good enough to finish in the Top 7 and win a cup if they all remained fit and on top form. We need players like Walcott in the squad because players pick up niggling injuries and their form dips.
We need players like Walcott who can slot into the team without weakening the quality.
60 Posted 10/01/2018 at 17:49:54
Therefore, a player like Walcott might be perfect as he can play all across the front. He may well prosper from coming into a team and expected to be a senior player. I still think of him as Wenger's child project and at done point he needs to mature and develop. He could well do that here.
The more pressing need is for a left back though and it would be negligent not to replace Martina, who is awful in my opinion (credit to him for doing his best recently).
In summary, £15m for Walcott would be a good piece of business in my opinion.
61 Posted 10/01/2018 at 17:52:09
Everton, you won't be making any friends for failing again in the transfer market.
62 Posted 10/01/2018 at 17:54:01
63 Posted 10/01/2018 at 18:48:58
Any news on whether Garbutt has been registered for the Premier League? Must be make-or-break time for the lad.
Off topic, but please god can we get Siggy in the middle.
64 Posted 10/01/2018 at 19:14:04
65 Posted 10/01/2018 at 19:59:53
It's one of the reasons he can't hold down a place under Wenger (Sanchez et al ahead of him I know), and also the reason he's never really been able to play wide or up front effectively.
What I mean is, he doesn't really fit either role perfectly. For £20m in today's market though, he's worth a punt, but I also hear that he has a young family, and lots of ties to the south so more likely to go to Southampton if he can swallow the wage cut.
66 Posted 10/01/2018 at 20:02:30
67 Posted 10/01/2018 at 21:01:08
Hed be cheaper than Walcott, probably more exciting and will only get better..
68 Posted 10/01/2018 at 21:05:18
Another lad who can make things happen but just doesn't do enough much like Barklay.
Not worth bothering with in my opinion.
69 Posted 10/01/2018 at 21:18:09
70 Posted 10/01/2018 at 22:13:57
We'd have to be stupid to spend £20 million on him. So guessing it is nailed on.
71 Posted 10/01/2018 at 22:55:48
However, I have to add that proven by history; he was not one for tracking back, or generally 'mucking in' while under attack; having said that, he did have an affinity with the fans, for the reasons previously mentioned.
Having said that; he must have learnt something while being in Italy, and back at Barca; so if it came to a straight choice (not that I have any say, only an opinion), I would provided the fee was right have Delboy over Theo.
My only proviso: players returning to their spiritual home, very rarely are as good as our memories of them!
72 Posted 10/01/2018 at 23:09:28
Obviously has his flaws but, bloody hell, he can do a job that very few others can do. I bet there are few who can match that kind of record in the premiership never mind at Everton. By the way, that compares very closely to Sanchez's rate.
He obviously does not compare re overall influence but we could certainly use someone who can deliver like that. Bolasie's rate by the way is a goal or assist every 3.3-ish games whilst Lukaku's is only slightly better than Walcott's. Del boy's is one every 2 games. Just sayin'.
73 Posted 10/01/2018 at 23:15:42
74 Posted 10/01/2018 at 23:23:20
If he arrives, we are loading up on lads in their late 20's, on thick wedge, with no sell on, that aren't top class, and won't progress us any further than 7th. He's injury prone as well.
Cue a 5 year deal on big wages then.
75 Posted 10/01/2018 at 23:38:52
76 Posted 10/01/2018 at 00:07:41
Offers pace and that's it. No football brain whatsoever.
Give gametime to Lookman and Vlasic.
77 Posted 11/01/2018 at 00:45:10
HE is exactly what we need a proven goalscorer other than a frontman.
Him and Tosun (hopefully) could provide more goals than Lukaku and Barkley.
78 Posted 11/01/2018 at 10:25:20
79 Posted 11/01/2018 at 10:38:14
A near 29-year-old, with a dodgy injury record, who has NEVER made it with Arsenal or England despite being on the verge of doing so for 10 years.
And who's prepared to pay that ridiculous sum of money for him: why, Everton of course!
Never mind the fact we've got Bolasie and a genuine like-for-like prospect waiting in the wings (literally), in Lookman, who's 9 years younger, plus Lennon and Vlasic... let's buy him because he's a great player isn't he?
Er, no, he's not.
Not necessary, over-priced, injury-prone, one-dimensional, flatters to deceive and above all, not a priority for us right now.
Stop buying players the 'top' clubs wish to cast off. They're doing it for a reason and we are condemning ourselves to forever be chasing them instead of joining them as a result.
80 Posted 11/01/2018 at 10:55:24
81 Posted 11/01/2018 at 11:14:49
Given he's been playing for one of the best possession based passing teams in the Premier League era he's not a prolific scorer.
We need to be bringing in younger exciting players to add to the likes of Lookman, Vlasic, Calvert-Lewin instead of bringing in a main competitors cast offs on a fat pay cheque who has barely managed to get any game time in the past couple of seasons.
If we bring in fresh blood to the team in January we need players who are in form who have been playing the majority of the games for their current club and are at peak fitness to help us kick on.
We don't need another teams sicknotes we've got and had enough of those type of players.
82 Posted 11/01/2018 at 11:33:35
83 Posted 11/01/2018 at 11:45:03
If Walcott signs he is going to be right up for it with it being a World Cup year although personally I would be happy to loan him with a view to signing in the summer for an agreed price.
Then if we could get a left back Tierney of Celtic would be my choice that would do me until the summer. That would leave a team as follows when all fit.
Coleman, Holgate, Keane, Tierney
Walcott, Sigurdsson, Bolasie
In the games against the top 6, Rooney could be replaced by McCarthy but this looks a far more dynamic and threat than earlier in the season. Then in the summer would like to buy another centre back Akinji of Basel, a midfielder Zakaria of Moenchengladbach, and striker Breel Embolo. These are all young powerful and quick players which is what we should be buying.
84 Posted 11/01/2018 at 11:46:31
His goals and assists record is excellent. Last season was his most prolific campaign and it's odd that he's now out of favour at Arsenal.
I think he's easily worth £20 million in today's market. He's proven in the Premier League and entering what should be the best years of his career.
We need pace and goals and he provides both. The only concern is his injury record, not his ability.
85 Posted 11/01/2018 at 12:04:35
We'll be loading up on wingers like we did with Number 10s this season...
86 Posted 11/01/2018 at 12:11:06
Still, if money is no issue, as per Moshiri, get him in, I guess.
87 Posted 11/01/2018 at 12:28:48
When you look it as a 'sell Niasse, get in Walcott' then it is an obvious improvement, or 'sell Mirallas, get in Walcott', and for pragmatic Allardyce, this makes it a logical choice.
But I don't see it as a signing that will really give us the dynamic influence our attack needs. Walcott is a very hot and cold player, and without the service he receives at Arsenal, can we really expect him to come here and thrive?
88 Posted 11/01/2018 at 12:59:22
89 Posted 11/01/2018 at 13:00:04
The issue over age and quality, and blocking development of potentially better players, is the main topic for debate for me.
90 Posted 11/01/2018 at 13:02:25
He then went on to say that the same applies to Walcott; he claims both downed tools over Wenger not being moved on. I guess he would still have contacts at Arsenal who have told him this.
So Sam, we have 2 very good quick lads in Lookman and Vlasic; save your money for someone better in the summer.
91 Posted 11/01/2018 at 13:09:41
I agree that blocking the development in our younger players is a big concern for me as well. As you also point out, he hasn't played a lot of games and he is often substituted.
Now seeing Wenger has both Sanchez and Ozil who both could be gone in this window, raises the question: if he isn't good enough to replace 2 players who see their future away from Arsenal why is he good enough for us?
Also, it's very rare for an English player who plays for a top 6 side to not be an automatic first choice for England, and not just under Southgate either.
92 Posted 11/01/2018 at 13:54:26
On big wages, with a dubious injury record his goals and assists have been amassed at a club where he has been serviced by some top class colleagues. If he had been plying his trade with West Brom or ourselves, his stats would be less respectable.
If we sign him, it would signal that Walsh has run out of ideas, in terms of unearthing players that other clubs seem to find.
93 Posted 11/01/2018 at 13:58:24
You suggest some potentially terrific European signings, yet we just know Everton won't have spread the net that widely don't we?!
Walcott just doesn't excite. Other than a left back, if we're going to sign any other attacking players this window, I long for somebody else that has that X-factor about them, like Tosun does...
94 Posted 11/01/2018 at 14:04:03
95 Posted 11/01/2018 at 14:20:24
In this window if we can pinch a left footed defender with height and strength I think it would be money well spent. The likes of Chilwell at Leicester, although not imposing, would give us nice balance both defending and attacking and he's young.
Our focus should be set towards the summer to recruit a play-maker with vision and guile. I know another midfielder !! but it's game intelligence we need, not open the door and run type of player . Maybe Dowell in time might be that player.
The top 6 all have them. Silva, Ozil, Mata, Fabregas,Ericsson and Coutinho (before departure). All not blessed with pace. Maybe Sigurdsson was to be our type but, whilst he is an asset, he is not the can-opener type. Walsh needs to scour Europe and beyond.
96 Posted 11/01/2018 at 15:30:39
97 Posted 11/01/2018 at 15:43:52
He'd probably sign a 4-year contract at this point, which would take him into his 30s and he'd possibly offer us what Defoe offered Sunderland under Allardyce pace and finishing ability when played off a target man.
I feel like he is one who has suffered from being played out wide a lot under Wenger. If played through the middle, he could be a really good addition and direct competition for Sandro. Plus another great mentor for Calvert-Lewin.
98 Posted 11/01/2018 at 16:13:49
Sorry if this is not on the subject matter in hand but there's very little to get excited about with Everton at the moment.
99 Posted 11/01/2018 at 16:27:00
Again, a good player he is, and he is better than what we have, but his is injury prone, inconsistent, on big wages and won't get any better (at 28, his main asset, pace, will inevitably be on the decline).
Dembele is available for similar sums, is young and is a naturally gifted beast of a striker whose value will certainly not drop, and could potentially skyrocket to triple figures.
Ziyech from Ajax would be a more exciting prospect, and certainly realistic and shouldn't cost too much more.
An attack of these two, plus Tosun, Bolasie, Calvert-Lewin, Lookman, and Dowell give us pace and variety.
But I fully expect Big Sam to go for Walcott, or some other 28-year-old+, on big wages, because Big Sam doesn't give a flying fuck about Everton from 2019 onwards.
100 Posted 11/01/2018 at 16:31:37
Alasdair must be well off, or from down south, as his is worth sixpence.
On a serious note, I think Walcott would only come if he had assurances he'd be played in the middle, which is the assurance he was after from Wenger a couple of years ago when there was unrest in the camp at Arsenal. The lad doesn't consider himself a winger.
Having said that, Dembele for me, all day, every day. The lad's form has dropped off this season but, as the old saying goes "form is temporary, class is permanent".
101 Posted 11/01/2018 at 16:32:15
102 Posted 11/01/2018 at 18:07:59
Is he better than what we have, sure but is that the aim here? Just fill the side with big names? The Everton side needs balance. Pay big money for quality and find the players that compliment that quality.
At this moment with nothing to play for, giving Lookman the chance is more important. Buy the quality down our spine.
103 Posted 11/01/2018 at 18:33:19
104 Posted 11/01/2018 at 18:43:53
As for him joining us, well, It doesn't really set my imagination alight.
105 Posted 11/01/2018 at 18:48:02
Perfect summary of the situation. I wouldn't put it past us paying £30 million for this clown after all, he's twice as good as Barkley isn't he?!?
106 Posted 11/01/2018 at 18:59:54
We've about a £100 millions worth of them already, that are now worth about a quarter of that, and they aren't even that good.
107 Posted 11/01/2018 at 20:16:29
108 Posted 11/01/2018 at 20:42:37
They played mostly two touch, whereas Theo needed at least 3, and sometimes even 4. So maybe he's played for the wrong team for all these years, because Arsenal maybe don't really play the game that has suited his natural instincts.
I Remember his goal at Anfield, when he ran through the middle and left them for dead, and his hat-trick for England in Croatia, but I've never been sure that pass, pass, pass, really suits Walcott and I think he might just thrive if he's given more responsibility to go and try and take on the fullback instead of just keeping the ball.
109 Posted 11/01/2018 at 20:45:12
McFadden sent off for foul & abusive language. 🙄
110 Posted 11/01/2018 at 20:52:17
I'd rather have a Walcott who wants to play for us rather than a Barkley that doesn't.
111 Posted 11/01/2018 at 20:55:24
Sam doesn't care past 2019? Hardly his fault, so don't knock him for that.
112 Posted 11/01/2018 at 21:02:01
I was also at Highbury, the night they beat us 3-1 with a load of kids, in the season we come 4th under Moyes, and I was rotten drunk. Got ejected from the ground, with a bizzy getting his own back on me, although I was only going to the toilet (I was very lucky really, long story) and a mate was just about to go into the ground with a spare ticket!
Got back in, and now had to have some wits about me, but this had nothing to do with me sobering up though, that was down to Arsenal's kids, who were absolutely outstanding.
I'm made up with some of our own kids right now, they actually gave me some hope last Friday night, but the moral of the story is that the team will only really improve once we get some really strong characters to go along with the younger talent.
113 Posted 11/01/2018 at 23:01:49
Forced to go to Mordor, FA Cup 3rd Round; both sides were are home that weekend with my red brothers.
All pretty hammered, my stupid bro eyed up the match chief's stick!
Goaded by my other brother, he decided to try and swipe it! He got completely bundled over, thrown into the paddy wagon.
I couldn't stop laughing. The fella had a sense of humour though. Told me and my other bro to go watch the game, and come collect him after the game! Priceless.
114 Posted 12/01/2018 at 07:34:19
115 Posted 12/01/2018 at 08:18:20
I get the impression that Allardyce is buying him to retain the ball and pass, meaning that his current tactics are going to continue and this replacement is to bolster them. This means that some players will continue in bit parts and other forwards will go.
Theo Walcott is okay, but Allardyce's management is not for the top four.
116 Posted 12/01/2018 at 09:06:29
Sent it flying across the room, and when they tried to grab me loads of lads got in the way of them or I deffo would have been getting the same treatment as your kid, plus I would have probably got mufftied as well.
I'd forgot about it till I got launched out the match for doing nothing wrong, and I only realized that I was lucky because this policeman also had a sense of humor when I was shouting at him to come here a minute, and he shouted, "Why, so you can knock me fuckin' helmet off again" as I say I was lucky, especially when I got to see those Arsenal kids play that night.
My team, a team that was nearly full strength, and came 4th that season, got absolutely footballed off the pitch, by these young kids. I'd love to see the team we played against that night though, because they looked to me like they had a squad of kids destined for the top, and I bet you loads of them probably never even made the grade.
117 Posted 12/01/2018 at 09:29:20
He said nothing is imminent though, and told the reporter he never gets excited, because he doesn't like getting disappointed. He sounds like he's been our manager, forfuckinever!
118 Posted 12/01/2018 at 09:40:11
Not a fan because I dont think hes had the mental strength (determination) to match his ability. Ian Wright says the same about him.
119 Posted 12/01/2018 at 09:53:25
A forward line of Walcott, Tosun and Bolasie could be a frightening front line for defenders to face, especially with Sigurdsson and Rooney in behind pinging balls left and right. Get him in and a left back sorted and we will be far stronger, and find a beast of central midfielder for the summer.
120 Posted 12/01/2018 at 09:57:30
121 Posted 12/01/2018 at 09:57:45
122 Posted 12/01/2018 at 10:25:38
123 Posted 12/01/2018 at 10:28:10
124 Posted 12/01/2018 at 10:42:38
I'd rather see Lookman and Vlasic get a run. They'll both be better players in a year with more to come.
125 Posted 12/01/2018 at 11:00:32
Do the club feel the need to get a replacement player in for the Physio's room now that Macca is back fit? If so Walcott fits the bill nicely...
126 Posted 12/01/2018 at 11:15:08
Sam's record isn't great with young players, and when he leaves clubs its usually with an older group than when he started and they are usually on long contracts. So the manager following has old players on long-term contracts that he can't move on.
127 Posted 12/01/2018 at 11:17:48
As others have said, this will be the shittiest waste of £25 million since Davy Klaassen. I despair.
128 Posted 12/01/2018 at 11:18:50
129 Posted 12/01/2018 at 12:10:34
The great thing about Walcott is not simply his pace, but the fact that he's equally comfortable on the flanks or down the centre.
Quoting individual Arsenal fans who don't like him is a mug's game. There would be a queue of haters willing to slag off pretty much any of our current squad on this site.
130 Posted 12/01/2018 at 12:24:47
Nothing we can do if Sam wants him but he should be very relaxed in a team with nothing to play for during the rest of the season.
131 Posted 12/01/2018 at 12:45:13
Walcott is a high risk purchase at £20m.
132 Posted 12/01/2018 at 12:47:18
The rest fight it out for the midfield and defence. Sigurdsson for attacking central midfielder behind the front 3 with Rooney & Gueye. McCarthy and Schneiderlin the two central midfielders.
Davies should be loaned out to a Championship club similar to Kieran Dowell at Forest. Easy, this game
133 Posted 12/01/2018 at 13:03:27
It's like Sam is still in firefighting mode.
We are not getting top 6. We are not getting silverware. We are not getting relegated. So build for the future. Walcott is not it.
134 Posted 12/01/2018 at 13:44:03
Walcott isn't going to play much for them and needs to move on. He thinks with a first 11 place, Walcott will be good again.
He needs games and he'll get them with us. The price is right, the age is right, the timing is right.
135 Posted 12/01/2018 at 13:51:16
136 Posted 12/01/2018 at 14:30:17
He said: " He'd probably be an upgrade on Lennon and would add some more pace and experience to your squad but most Arsenal fans will be delighted to finally get rid of him. His work ethic is questionable and his end product is so poor. Plus he's on 6 figures a week. He might give you a few good months to try and get into WC squad but he's not going to help anyone get top 4 longer term."
I think there are better ways/players to spend £20m+ on.
137 Posted 12/01/2018 at 14:30:26
Complete waste of money. Deulofeu would have offered more and had a future. No thanks at any price.
138 Posted 12/01/2018 at 14:39:07
139 Posted 12/01/2018 at 14:42:36
140 Posted 12/01/2018 at 14:45:07
141 Posted 12/01/2018 at 14:45:53
I look back and think Everton have had lots of promising kids who never quite made the top top grade. Both a great source of pride and disappointment at the same time.
Everton have never been in a position to nurture in the first team but promote out of necessity. This season is might be different. We have 3 or 4 outstanding prospects, game time from now until the seasons end would determine if they're good enough.
But it looks like Allardyce wants older, short term buys to serve his own agenda, to keep the job. I cannot fault him for that but Everton should be buying better than Walcott.
142 Posted 12/01/2018 at 14:48:04
I reckon he's a replacement for Lennon. I think Sam does rate Lookman since he brought him on in the derby, and even more so with his performance when he came on... such an exciting player. I'm not sure how he feels about Vlasic though.
Anyway, I think if this does happen, it'll be a good buy; he's got something to prove, he's a good age, it's a World Cup year.
Now for left back. Bring it on.
143 Posted 12/01/2018 at 14:52:04
144 Posted 12/01/2018 at 14:52:09
145 Posted 12/01/2018 at 15:02:30
146 Posted 12/01/2018 at 15:15:41
There is a world of difference between scoring goals at Arsenal with Sanchez and Ozil supplying the bullets than at Everton where he will get little service yet be expected to take what few chances we create.
147 Posted 12/01/2018 at 15:18:00
The end result being Arsenal paying us £20m to take him and Sanchez as a sweetener.
Have faith in Boys Pen Bill, (Fuck'nin hell, where's me drink, hic!)
148 Posted 12/01/2018 at 15:36:56
Walcott has been at Arsenal for over a decade and played almost 300 games. They know his game, what he can and can't do, inside and out. If the majority of fans are saying "good riddance", then that concerns me.
149 Posted 12/01/2018 at 15:40:33
150 Posted 12/01/2018 at 15:40:57
Fans are a fickle bunch.
151 Posted 12/01/2018 at 15:48:01
Instead of worrying about what a few fickle Arsenal supporters think, use your own eyes. He is exactly what we would all hope Lookman can be but he is already the finished article with extensive top-level experience.
152 Posted 12/01/2018 at 16:07:49
His goalscoring record, in the league, is 65 in 269 games. If that speaks for itself, then what does it say because I'm genuinely not sure.
Of course this stat doesn't tell us what position he was played in, what percentage of these goals were scored when he started versus when he came on and used his pace against tired defences.
It also doesn't tell us how many times he scored the vital goal in a tight 1-0 win versus how many times he got two in a 6-0 home win against a relegation-bound team.
In summary, not only does his goal-scoring record not speak clearly to me it ain't worth the paper it's written on.
What I do know is that Theo rarely strings a run of games together and that it isn't always due to injury. He hasn't started a game in the Premier League this season. He told us last year that it hit him that he needed to change his attitude after scoring two goals against Basel. Yet, nothing really changed.
I actually wouldn't mind if he came but I think the club are looking at a fairly high fee and very high wages for the most inconsistent of players.
153 Posted 12/01/2018 at 16:22:03
The best of the young lads will either force their way into the team and make it impossible to leave them out.
Or, more likely, will step in when Walcott's hamstring goes 20 mins into his Everton career.
154 Posted 12/01/2018 at 16:28:43
1 in 4 equals 10 goals a season in the Prem and a lot of those games he only came on as sub so I would still say they're pretty impressive for a winger.
I don't think Deulofeu ever scored more than about 4 in a season by comparison.
155 Posted 12/01/2018 at 16:29:20
It's not a few fickle fans though. It's almost all of them. That means something surely.
As for my own eyes. They discern a very fast player, with little stomach for the fight and very dubious end product who was always likely to get some goals whilst playing for one of the best attacking teams in the country over the last decade.
156 Posted 12/01/2018 at 16:32:27
Last week, when we were counter-attacking Liverpool in the last half-hour, they were terrified. Now Lookman is good but with somebody like Walcott who has a bit more big match experience, we could be just that little bit more deadly. Lookman will still get game time, he's just not ready to be a permanent fixture yet.
157 Posted 12/01/2018 at 16:38:03
158 Posted 12/01/2018 at 16:42:21
159 Posted 12/01/2018 at 16:54:35
160 Posted 12/01/2018 at 16:55:28
Yes, I'd prefer Messi too, but hey – guess what, it ain't happening.
For £20M, this is an absolute no-brainer. Get it done!
161 Posted 12/01/2018 at 16:58:03
Also this would be a kick in the teeth for Vlasic, Lookman, Donkor etc.. it seems to me the club is buying for the sake of it..?
Does any one know how many games he's played the last 5 years as it seems not many and he's been a full time sub and starts against the lower league teams.
I hope tomorrow that the likes of Vlasic and Lookman get a start or come on early. Can we surprise Spurs at Wembley?
162 Posted 12/01/2018 at 17:06:35
It was a tongue-in-cheek comment! I'm well and truly over it!! Bastard!!!!
163 Posted 12/01/2018 at 17:24:09
I can't back that up as it is just a gut feeling. Is here just for the money?
Or Is he another Gareth Barry? He signed for us because he wanted to play football and not sit on the bench. Barry didn't let us down IMO
164 Posted 12/01/2018 at 17:30:43
165 Posted 12/01/2018 at 18:53:30
Moshiri is worth over £2 Billion and it's his money to spend.
He will score goals against the top teams and has pace to burn, both what we need at the moment.
166 Posted 12/01/2018 at 18:58:23
Just like our fans when the likes of Stones, Rooney, Lukaku and Barkley left.
Supporters can be very fickle at times.
167 Posted 12/01/2018 at 19:02:27
He's from North London, spent some time in Southampton, married a girl from there, they have a young family (latest son 1 year old, missus will be concerned about eldest kid's education etc.), writes books (London based publisher) basically happy and well settled in London. Merseyside / Cheshire appealing? Nice but no.
This is a major life event for Walcott and he doesn't seem to have the strength of character to manage it well.
When will we stop accepting the top 6's cast-offs (for silly money too) and convince ourselves that it's progress?
As Don Hutchison said, it's buying for the sake of buying.
168 Posted 12/01/2018 at 19:05:51
I know were my money would be on to retain the ball. Walcott has zero physical presence.
But having said that there is merit in having both and perhaps a balance. Bolasie has played more games on the left, Walcott on the right. The breadcrumbs might lead you to think Sigurdsson must become the 10?
My concern is Lookman. Already marginalised by several managers he needs minutes. Walcott, Bolasie block that route. We have little to play for so why?
Lookman's ceiling is way higher than Walcott's, is it not?
Last year yes this year nah, swerve.
169 Posted 12/01/2018 at 20:28:37
When we had fuck all money, people complained we didn't spend enough money, now we have a few quid people complain we pay too much for players!!
You can't win.
170 Posted 12/01/2018 at 20:41:59
171 Posted 12/01/2018 at 20:50:00
Hopefully we will be in the near future but we're an upper mid table club with a rich history at the moment. History counts for next to fuck all when the majority of player weren't even alive when we were BIG!!
We have to make new history and not live on past glories!
172 Posted 12/01/2018 at 21:18:20
173 Posted 12/01/2018 at 23:17:36
We need firepower. Tosun in. Hopefully this guy next.
174 Posted 12/01/2018 at 23:42:33
No tears there. I think most of us would be happy with him leaving and Walcott joining us...
175 Posted 14/01/2018 at 12:32:36
I don't think we have too bad a squad but they are ignoring the obvious needs to create a good, not particularly decent, team. We need another centre forward, we should have for most games at home two up front roughing up the defence making the opposition defenders crying at their midfielders to help out.
We need those on loan that could a job for us back, like Galloway and Dowell, plus we need to buy a strong running, hard tackling left back and an Alonso or Arteta type midfielder to orchestrate things.
I think also that our majority shareholder needs to flash the cash and bring in a visionary director of football to make a real difference not have the likes of Walsh dithering about.
176 Posted 15/01/2018 at 09:18:57
177 Posted 15/01/2018 at 09:49:28
No pace anywhere in the team.
178 Posted 15/01/2018 at 20:11:36
Another player with his best years behind him while a position more in need of reinforcement is not remedied.
179 Posted 15/01/2018 at 20:37:06
But as I said, towards the top, is it really worth buying him and playing him at the expense of developing Lookman?
180 Posted 15/01/2018 at 20:40:26
181 Posted 15/01/2018 at 20:58:00
182 Posted 15/01/2018 at 21:21:02
Let me tell you, I feel very optimistic about the players we have at the club. I feel very negative about the board and the current manager. I'd love to see us get a manger who believes in high pressing and making the opposition afraid of us, while working with the players he's got and trying to develop them.
As for Walcott - I would have said, even 5 years ago ‘yes, I think he could become a decent striker, a goal poacher.' But now, having never learnt that position by never really being played there, I can't see him turning it in now at 28.
Especially since I don't think Sam will even play him there. He'll be out wide, unhappy playing there, and ineffective. Hope I'm wrong.
If Silva or Fonseca were here, I'd like to see him in a front 2 with Cenk, which would require 3 at the back, and therefore a left sided CB and a LWB.
183 Posted 15/01/2018 at 22:35:32
184 Posted 15/01/2018 at 22:51:40
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