Silva: Blues didn't deserve cruel finish

The RS never won it, we chucked it away.

The team deserve a lot of credit. They are a team that's going places. I don't want to pick out individual performances because I thought we played really well as a team.

There were spells out there today where Liverpool looked frankly ordinary. That's the way we were handling them. It won't be long before we're going to top 6 sides and taking 3 points.

Looking forward to the Newcastle game.

We will have our day, ladies & gents. In the space of four months, Silva has transformed us into a team who can firstly compete, then move onto the next step of standing toe to toe at away grounds of the top 4-6. Klopp has had three years & shit loads of money to put them in contention of the top honours; we've only just started. He's won the same as Silva has.

Let's keep our peckers up, Jordan will be sicker than all of us tonight, us loyal fans will back him to the hilt, not like them bastards with Karius!

If we are to improve quickly, we need to replace Gueye with the likes of Loftus-Cheek to play alongside Gomes, if we can secure his signature.

I understand the frustration after that tonight, reading the likes of Dave & Tony Abrahams & John Mc etc makes me feel more positive. We are on to something with Marco & Marcel, please keep the faith, the tide is turning, believe me.

I was very proud of the way we played. All people moan about is injury time – it's a minimum, not maximum.

So let's stay positive. We are easily creating chances because we've got the players who can get past players and create spaces. The only problem is the striker right now, who can not only hold the ball but also makes fox-in-the-box runs, and you are looking at the side that can win anywhere.

The more I hear from Klopp, the classless clown, the more I appreciate just what a grade one, shithouse prick he is. Now we hear he lied about apologising to Marco. No surprise.

Let's see what actions the authorities take on his pitch invasion. I guess he had that 'run on' planned for last season's Champions League Final and just wanted to use it.

Anyway, the good news is Man City will march on and Napoli will do a job on them in the Champions League and then watch his head explode again blaming they ate too much pasta the night before.

Onwards and upwards Blues, performances getting better every match and with two additions and Gomes secured we will have a title contending team.

What should come from this though is hurt, hurt taken from the way they lost, hurt in that they could and maybe should have won the game. Taken the right way, this should improve them as a team and tighten their mentality.

That hurt will remain no matter who we beat between now and facing those Red demons again.

I don't think any of us will be able to rest until we exercise the demon of beating Liverpool; at the start of each season it hangs over us like a curse.

I'd rather watch the side play fearlessly against these so-called superior sides and lose than play the Allardyce way and sneak an undeserved point.

Silva is doing a great job in such a short space of time and some of the negativity on the other thread is lunacy.

I'm afraid it does tell the story, the points and goals return doesn't lie.

It doesn't matter how we played, the record books suggest we lost these games and Marco Silva is an intelligent enough man to know that pats on the back don't get you results.

We failed to score more in these matches because we aren't clinical in front of goal and we lose them because we make schoolboy mistakes like yesterday.

Pats on the back make nobody feel better after losing a derby. We need better players if we want to beat the top sides – not just match them over 90 minutes.

We finally have a team that's getting better and better. We have a young manager that oozes class and a Director of Football likewise. The players are good enough too, to learn and adapt as the season goes on.

I'm sure there's a striker being lined up either for January or in the Summer too.

Also, we have all the top six at home in the second half of the season so it will be another chance to see if we can keep on improving.

There's no blame to be apportioned either. It's just a sickening blow.

As I mentioned yesterday, Alex Ferguson was never content during a summer in which Man Utd has just won the double – he went out and signed a better striker or defender to ensure that his team kept improving. Guardiola is the same now at Man City.

At Everton, we have improved in a way that we can fend off the mediocre teams in the Premier League, which – given our finances – you would expect us to beat these sides... but we haven't really beaten anyone again so far this season, 10 man Leicester probably the best win to date.

Silva and Brands will take no positives privately from good performances but not results and they will be looking at signing better players than what we currently have in January and also in summer.

The team is improving but I think, with this current squad lacking a true goal scorer and also more sources of regular goals, then there's only so far it can go before that glass ceiling reappears.

Let's hope for a productive transfer window in January with maybe two outgoings and at least one incoming quality striker.

Let's get them at Goodison in the 3rd round of the FA Cup and see if he fancies a jog on the pitch then. I despise everything about that club

Also, it was nice to see Marco emotional about losing – he clearly 'gets' this Club and feels strongly that we are going in the right direction.

One thing is for sure though, we need to sign Gomes ASAP – the man is fast becoming one of the best midfielders in the Premier League.

This result, however much it hurts, came from a far better performance than for many years and surely signals better things around the corner if the rate of change continues as it has under Silva this season.

This team – already completely transformed from the disaster that was Fat Sam's idea of the way to play – will use this as a rallying call, as a shared experience that binds them together.

For too long, we have looked like we did not believe we belonged on the same pitch as any of the top 6. Yesterday, we proved we were every bit as good as a fantastic team that remains unbeaten in the Premier League. Of course it hurts to be beaten by the Reds, but long-term this should be a real confidence boost. In Silva and Brands we trust! COYB's!

So we can expect NO punishment to be dished out to Klopp.

Good day,

I would be grateful if you can confirm the punishment for a manager who steps out of his designated technical area and takes to the pitch while the match is in progress?

Yesterday the Liverpool manager, Mr. Klopp seemed to run across the pitch to celebrate with his goalkeeper. I am sure there is television coverage of it.

I did not see Mr. Klopp receive a warning or sent to the stands so I would be grateful if you can confirm what the regulations are?

I understand he was delighted at the late goal being scored but equally I'm sure a number of LFC fans were also delighted and I didn't see any of them invade the pitch.

My view is surely the manager has a responsibility to set an example and not encourage wreckless behaviour.

I am sure your team are on top of this matter as you are fully aware of the perception that the "bigger teams" receive preferential treatment and this is a perfect example to prove this is not reality.

Kind regards,
Dave McDowell

Yeah, it was annoying that it was against us, but had Silva done that at Goodison, we'd all be laughing our heads off at the RS.

No problem with a manager or his staff celebrating a goal but the rules state that club officials have to stay within their technical area during the match — did Klopp really have to run to the centre-circle to show how happy he was to have seen his team gifted a goal?

Imagine the uproar had an opposition manager done the same thing at the other place. I actually despise all of this faux involvement by club managers during the game, it makes good copy for the media but does it serve any real purpose?

We are fast getting there; we all know we need a striker so Richarlison can revert to playing wider. Whilst Gueye is having a good season, we need a better defensve midfielder who can pass the ball. Theo is on borrowed time — he is doing what he has done all his career and won't suddenly become a consistently good player and I think Lookman will get his chance this week.

All that said, it was a sickener yesterday but I feel sorry for Pickford – the guy made a bad mistake but that's what happens when you play in goal. Our time is coming; Silva knows what he is doing.

Oh, and Gomes must be signed!!!

What we've achieved already, as demonstrated by the overall performance yesterday, and at Chelsea, is amazing.

Liverpool have been completely outplaying teams and have the best defensive record. And yet there was parity for virtually 90 minutes out there. And we made them look ordinary. It was desperation measures for Klopp towards the end with those substitutions. With all their hundreds of millions more being spent, how long has it taken Liverpool to get to a point where they can challenge for the title? And how long has Silva and Brands had?

Our time is coming. The team are improving – it's so palpable. We just need to remember – it's only just started!

I can't tell you how happy I am having watched us yesterday. To hell with a single result. We'll have our time. And there are bigger things in the offing.

A lot of people are now aware just how good we really are and our reputation is growing.

Marco and Marcel have done a marvelous job, I just hope we can bring in some real potential cover for the midfield should Gueye or Gomes get injured; they're becoming a formidable pairing.

What we desperately need is a top class striker in January. I would go for Wilson from Bournemouth.

As Paul Tran also recalls in another thread, the performance in the undeserved Quarter Final defeat at Old Trafford in '83 made me feel the team was gelling and moving forward.

Similar to how I feel about the current team and management.

But my sincere hope is that there is no action from the FA about the pitch invasion. Then, when we beat them at Goodison Park next spring and Marco runs on to celebrate and the FA charges him... oh wait, that can't be; otherwise, it is one rule for their darlings and one for the rest.

We have suffered years of mismanagement right from the very top of the club; meanwhile, our neighbours have spent millions and millions of pounds every season developing their team.

If we continue to progress in the manner that we have so far, it won't be long before we are back challenging for major trophies.

Klopp in his interview made the point that the improvement at Everton since last season is remarkable. We went and, but for a fluff by our normally game-saving goalkeeper, we were good for the draw and even when created enough chances to justifiably think we could have won the game. Less than half a season. Imagine where we could be with a striker!!

What we need to is this manager and another 3 committed, skilful players.

Man City at home would be shitting it.

And I'm far more focussed on us being in a position for Marco to enjoy his own pitch invasion. The good news from yesterday is we have taken an enormous step towards doing that compared to the dross of 12 months ago under Fat Sam.

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Who could forget the young Mourinho dancing and running down the touchline at Old Traffold when Porto scored the winning goal to knock Man Utd out of the Champions League? Marvellous, and I have a soft spot for Man Utd.

Klipperty is a bit of a nutcase, something like Tommy Gravesen – no harm in them, just naturally round the fuckin' bend.

Lovely.

What's the fine / ban? What's the repercussion of the action?
No word of that.

I agree with James' sentiment about the over-sterilization of the game on the whole, but have to disagree with this particular action. Coaches shouldn't be running on the fucking pitch. It's a circus, respectless (not a word, go with it...) act that should be governed out of the game.

Now taking your shirt off after a goal? Hell, allow that all day long.

Now imagine that we got a last minute goal and Marco did it. What do you suppose our lovely fair-minded Kopites would be all over the media saying today? We would have been lambasted. Remember, everyone loves Klopp and our media darling neighbours can do no wrong.

Klopp will get a 3-match touchline ban and that will be that. A fan doing this gets banned for a season or for life. Not a good example.

I don't buy it. The guy is a turd. I know for a fact he tortures puppies and has a huge collection of chicken porn. He's worse than Suarez. The teeth are a clue.

The team will get fined. It should be a hefty fine as to discourage this type of behavior from occurring in the future.

But banning the guy for a braindead moment of delirium? Not for me.

It's unacceptable behavior from a manager. Fine the shit out of them.

Well we didn't exactly go for it in the second half, did we? Whilst they were putting on more attacking options and fresh legs, we seemed content with a draw. They had played in midweek so probably couldn't believe their luck we didn't push them more.

I don't think Silva trusts many outside the starting eleven; Lookman maybe being that exception to the rule. I thought we would've seen a target man sooner as Richarlison seemed to be very deep at times which nullified them, but gave us no outlet.

Calvert-Lewin coming on a minute before the 90 was up? Zouma 2 minutes later? Seems only one team went for the win and it wasn't us. The more things change, the more they stay the same.

Still gutted, still sick to my pit. Roll on Wednesday so I can put this behind me.

I hope we trounce them at Goodison Park. I can't see any reason why... maybe we will get them in the FA Cup again.

The team is good enough but is Silva the man? I'm not sure at all. Same old "unfair, deserved more, etc, etc" ...heard it so long and fed up. Twenty years... and counting.

Wes @53: I'm absolutely convinced we're not only finally moving forward, but doing so rapidly. That Everton side is a very fine one, full of skill, flair, panache, pace, and fighting spirit.

It's just another game, you'll need to get used to that under Silva, and it's an essential part of having a winning mentality to complement the ability we have. What happened was disappointing in the extreme, but that's all it was. Perspective.

About Klopp. What he did was wrong but it was spontaneous. He didn't think before he did it and thus he showed us his true feelings.

These were the actions of a manager that was thoroughly relieved. NOT someone who nonchalantly thought it's what they deserved. (If they had lost – the consequences for Liverpool would have been far greater than falling behind by a few points to Man City.)

He had taken off his star players (we had seen them off), and replaced them, more in desperation than anything. Seconds before that bizarre ending, he had accepted a draw in his mind and was likely hoping they wouldn't lose it themselves at the end.

If he hadn't been so relieved and grateful, he would still have celebrated, of course, but it wouldn't have been anything like that.

So I guess what I'm saying is that his actions were open, tangible relief – an unconscious compliment.

Pickford, like I said on here months ago, isn't the answer. He is another Joe Hart waiting to happen. Good shot-stopper but always error-prone and too small. The goal yesterday was a combination of stupidity and not being big enough.

England the other week where Pickford messed up, pissing about with the ball is further evidence of his docile attitude.

Walcott and Gana definitely not good enough for where we want to be. Whenever we play a top 6 teams these two players go missing or make pathetic mistakes and errors of judgement.

Gana's poncing around fiegning injury allowed the referee to add more time to added time. I knew, once I saw the referee pointing to his watch, that they would score.

Silva bringing on Zouma, trying to hold out for a point as they threw forwards on, was another mistake. I would sooner lose going for it than sitting back asking to concede.

All-in-all, another loss across the park due to idiotic decisions being made by players and manager. People saying "Let's batter Newcastle on Wednesday" just don't get it.

A point yesterday kept us on the heels of teams chasing 4th place. Now we just add another statistic to the club's miserable record in the Sky 6 games.

This season is starting to follow past seasons:

Arsenal – lost
Man Utd – lost
Chelsea – draw
Liverpool – lost.

One goal scored in total... I don't see any positives in any of it.

Pickford to Man Utd? Yes, Please.

At 90% of Premier League games, I would say the home team will be pushing for a winner come injury time. I don't buy they were tired after playing midweek either. They are fit men and, in there case, very close to top, surely playing two or three times a week not only comes with success but with ease.

I was dissapointed with Gana who has been superb in the last 5 games, then goes over the park and struggles with basic passing. Harsh maybe but the standards have to remain high.

On another note, I now realise why Klopp celebrated they way he did – 'Our Cup Final' is the only Cup Final he can ever win !!

Best not join the Samaritans.

It is absolutely clear that Everton has finally got the wagon on the road, certainly as far as I can see. I think that Silva believes we can beat anybody, and he's making the players believe it. I believe it too. The quality and commitment in this side is the best I've seen since the 1980s.

Olsen, ex-West Brom and a pundit on SwedishTV, said it was disgraceful and if he'd have been playing for Everton he would have knocked Klopp to the floor.

If that had been a fan, whilst the game was still in play, he would probably have received a lifetime ban, plus the ignominy of having his name brandished across the local papers, or even the National Tabloids.

This fine to someone of Klopp's financial standing, is the equivalent of 50 pence to the average Joe in comparison. I expected a touch-line ban of at least six weeks, possibly longer.

$8k (pounds — not dollars... someone get me an "international" keyboard, please) is nothing to these managers.

Well done, FA. Fucking stupid. Just set a precedent as there's no deterrent.

And anyway, the club would pay this for him, I'd guess.

Interviewed on Radio 5 live after the game, Klopp said he had never done it before and was immediately reminded that he had done it at Dortmund. He then said, "Ah, but that was seven years ago". He has previous.

To me, it was disrespectful to Everton, and especially to Pickford. It was also bringing the game into disrepute, by potentially igniting emotions of our fans.

This is why these things are against the rules... they can lead to other unruly behaviour.

Danny Mills was the only one I have read to date that was calling for a lifetime touchline ban but, as you alluded to Eddie, how is this a deterrent when it is being treated in this manner to someone who has proved to be a liar?

Let me qualify: after the match, he declared on television that he had apologised to Marco Silva; when interviewed, Marco said that he had not mentioned it.

Also, he publicly declared that he had never done that before, when reminded that at Borussia Dortmund he did exactly the same, his response was that "Ah, but that was seven years ago" — as if the Football World had somehow all suddenly developed amnesia.

He was never my favourite character for obvious reasons, but I had a certain respect for his managerial prowess; that has now diminished considerably, and I wish him all the bad luck that hopefully come his way.

More significantly, perhaps, each of those games has been away and, as we improve (and hopefully strengthen further in January), they have to play us at Goodison in the second half of the season.

In the past, we would probably have only been able to look forward to a further loss to these teams – but I do not believe that is any longer the case.

I am confident that in the second half of this season we shall start to pick up maximum points from some of these encounters and next season I expect to be picking up many more points at the away fixtures too.

Silva and Brands have made a remarkable start to their reign at Goodison Park. Long may it continue.

Pure class. Shrugs it off, said if it had been Everton scoring a last-minute winner, he has no idea if he wouldn't react in the same way, that it is an issue for the FA, not for him.

Whilst an £8,000 fine is peanuts to Klopp and a bit limp-wristed by the FA, let's take our lead from our manager and let this one drop.

On other questions, he says Jordan has trained and reacted well in the wake of the game. That Lookman is 100% in his thoughts to possibly start. That, less than 72 hours after Sunday's game, he needs to take into consideration fatigue and knocks. That Morgan Schniederlin has a problem 'in the leg' (not head!) and, other than that, nothing serious injury wise.

When asked about buying Andre Gomes in January, Silva swerved the question about securing him next month, but that securing such a high-quality player as Gomes would be really important for Everton. The journo said Gomes might be expensive. Silva replied philosophically: 'Sometimes the most expensive player over time is the cheapest player [for what he gives you]. Buying a number of £5-10 million players who then don't play [can be more expensive].'

On signing a 20-goal striker, he said everyone is looking for that, but right now he is too busy with the December schedule to worry about the January window.

He's not concerned about the top 6 now, but more concerned on continuing good habits and consistency which will bring the results and goals he wants.

See the full presser here:

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Skip to around the 7 minute mark to avoid sitting through the 'filler' stuff before Marco appears.

In one fell swoop, Klopp and the FA have undermined the whole rationale for not allowing pitch encroachment – the safety of all involved. Sweet FA.

I'm sure it's nothing to do with the fact that it's the loveable scamp Klopp and not Jose, for example.

I hope his teeth rot and fall out at his next press conference.

Dead right about Pickford; and extra time is not the time to start wasting time. We need more good decision-makers in the team, like other teams have.

I don't know whether anyone remembers a game during the Moyes era when a substitution was made in the last couple of minutes (as you do). We were winning at the time but the substitution only succeeded in disrupting Everton's concentration, not the opposition's, and the opposition went in to score a last-minute equaliser. Only with Everton could this happen...

I hope Marco is not catching the "Nice Guy Jags" syndrome!! Time to be ruthless on and off the pitch, Blueboys!!!

They won, we lost, their knobhead of a manager pissed us all off by "rubbing our noses" in it — end of story.

Let's not be like those supporters of a certain club that are offended by everything and ashamed of nothing. We lost the derby and we're all gutted, no-one more so than me, but forget about Klopp now because going on and no about it makes us look very small-time and biitchy. Don't lower yourselves to "their" level. Just ignore him, and ignore them.

Or take a leaf out of Marco's book and react with class and dignity. But, either way, let's take it out on the Geordies!

In the past 20 years, Everton have never been able to display this type of consistency. The next two games are important, to get the consistency wagon on the road and reverse the trend of 20 years.

Imagine if he did it at Old Trafford? They'd need 25,000 stewards to stop the fans getting to him. He should be in the stands for 3 months.