Moshiri: Lampard's future 'is not my decision'

I'm too upset to comment coherently right now so I'll sleep on it.

How can a leader and owner of an organisation not be responsible for those he hires and fires?

Rotten to the core. Roll on Arsenal.

Just like “we expect to lose to the likes of Spurs” (or similar) shows a complete lack of credibility.

He is a moron.

The only surprise is that we are 19th and not rock bottom.

No other club would have this level of fuck-wittery even in the tea room.

Laughing stock to the rest of the football world.

Take BK and Little Miss Dynamite with you and do one.

I want the tax people to do a full investigation into our finances to see who actually owns us. I bet it’s not Moshiri

I wish I could do one of those link things and show you the picture I took when I went for a paper yesterday.

Too late to mothball

Pat - hmm, now let me think. Expensive premium football stadium in Liverpool. Wonder who could be on the list of potential buyers.

And (relatedly) I wonder why Kenwright was shown to still be in the stands towards the end, when the rest of our "leaders" had left their seats?

They also left in separate cars. Maybe you can't read too much into that, and all this.

its a club which cant be run, cant be sold, no one would buy us at £50m let alone £500m to payback Moshiri and another £300m for the ground, and another £150m to get rid of Lampard and team and then satisfy the new manager's endless list of players he'll require, as he cant get a tune out of this dross.

I honestly don't where we go - I can see us being relegated, its a no brainer, I can see Bramley Moor work stopping for years, never ever to restart again. it'll be drop and drop until we get rid of all the deadwood we've got at every level in the club and we start to rebuild - 5 years ?????

I;ve been a blue since 1960 and saw the likes of Young, Vernon, Latchford, Harvey, Ball, Kendall, Reid, Sheedy, Gray, Stevens, and then the mediocrity of the 90;s, 00's, 10's but these times we are witnessing are unforgivable. Terrible terrible decisions, wasted £500m on players, managers, but now the Board are showing utter contempt for the fans and we are being dragged through a thoroughly public execution of our club - we are the laughing stock of football and I just cant see a way out.

That statement just sums up the state of affairs at the club, we’ve no chance, the towel is well and truly thrown in

RIP my beloved Everton FC

And things to come neatly full circle, as we move back to our original home?

It does seem like they might be turning on each other. Comparable to what happened with similar characters when the jig was almost up and Goring and Himmler started pointing the finger at each other and deselecting blame. We will need to have a Nuremberg type investigation to unravel it all if we are relegated.

The shell is up. The guys down the street are working their arses off, so I can only assume they are still being paid.

I think we may have a world class stadium..but be up to our eyes in debt and playing in the lower leagues.

The stakes couldnt possibly be any higher

Deeply saddening that our club is in the hands of such truly disgusting men. They are beneath contempt.

Lampard should be sacked now, it’s way beyond the point of no return.

If it’s down to Kenwright, Isn’t it ironic that the person sacking him should be even more sacked than the one he’s sacking!

Okay Moshiri we get it's a collective decision but say that. Give us some clarity. Bill, his usual thespian pathetic self. Just say Bill " we are having a board meeting" it's not that hard !!!!

Maybe Moshiri has told the board, we've appointed the manager you wanted, we have a DoF we all wanted, sort it out, I'm done with being blamed for the managerial merry-go-round.

The fans wanted Martinez out, I got Koeman in, he got us in Europe, but preferred golf to coaching, and the fans wanted him out. To protect my (and Mr. Usmanov's) investment we hired Fireman Sam, who got the club to 8th, and just missed out on European football, but the fans hated his 'anti-football', plus Marco was now available. So, maybe this one was on me, but, I can still blame the fans.

Marco did very well in his first season, apart from the usual annual Everton flip-flop show before the end of the season. Instead of getting the players that Marco wanted and needed for his system, Bill and I got the players we wanted, but made it look like M. Brands decisions.
The result being Marco sacked, and the euphoria of Big Dunc stuffing a Lampard led inept Chelski, and emotionally hugging a ballboy whilst wearing someone called 'Howard's watch'? The fans got what they wanted...Another manager!

This time, the one and only, I 'Fantastico Farhad' managed to lure Don Carlo to Goodison. Unfortunately, due to me not having been entirely truthful about the state of the club financially, or training facility wise; plus, seeing close-up, just how limited our squad was, he began to have doubts. His quotes "I'm not a magician" and "The team play better without the ball" spring to mind. The final straw for him, despite loving the city, and the walks on Crosby beach, was the armed scallies who burgled his house, whilst his daughter was in...
So, as soon as Real Madrid came calling he was off.

What was I meant to do, I scoured a whole 10 mile radius of Goodison and found this Mr. Benitez in need of work, who had won things ages ago, but he had 'pedigree'. Hopefully, the fans won't realise he was a RS legend, and he'll repeat his magic for us. I'll even throw him the last £2m in the transfer kitty to strengthen the squad...
Come October, we're 4th! Hussar!!!
Come January we're 15th, and the worst team in the league beat us 2-0. Bye-bye Rafa,

And now, see the top...

What a shit show. Sean Dyche has probably switched his phone off if he's got any sense.

How surprising his governance has led to the club being, how can I say this without being too critical, - slightly underwhelming - now we're back to sell to buy days and shackled to a new stadium drag anchor that will send us to the bottom.

He's an absolute beaut.

I noticed he was sat next to Kevin 'the man with a plan' Thelwell.
Just maybe he asked Kevin, can you work with this board to get in a manager to keep us in the EPL?

If the answer is no, hopefully he is here to call an EGM, and 'vote out' Kenwright and DBB?

Please God, please

Darren, it's all going on for now. If there comes a time of insufficient finance, it would stop. Too much debt, and so would the club - so the stadium project would have to go.

RIP Kings Dock (and the ring fenced money)

Sadly, my socialist principles went right out the fkn window and I thought Chelsea did it so fk where the money's coming from this is our chance to be great again. The Russian assault on Ukraine and subsequent crackdown on dirty Rusky cash suddenly put an end to our golden goose (despite decades of dodgy dough washing through "The City")

I never thought I was so mercenary but...anyway as we've witnessed instead of getting the administration side of the club in place and then building the team with a plan in mind and a vision and a style, Moshiri allowed the snake oil salesman kenwright to keep steering the Titanic towards the Iceberg.

As we have all witnessed our beloved club has been turned into a dogs dinner by a succession of managers and overpaid over-rated mercenary players.

Of all our dalliances with relegation that I have lost sleep over since my first game in the 70-71 season this is by far the worst as this "shower" of players as badly coached and motivated as they seem to be just have no fight or desire to win and are by far the worst squad in the division.

I don't know who the next manager should be but we should not surrender our Premiere status yet, take it back to basics, go 4-4-2, grind out points and we CAN still survive, wont be pretty? Could it be any worse than what we have had to endure for the last few years?

It takes a revolution to make a solution.

What happens on the field is irrelevant

For now however there is little that can be done save for trying everything possible on the pitch to stay up - so I feel similar.

It will be amazing and disastrous if Lampard is still manager of Everton FC in the very near future.

I've been a supporter since the late 50's but what has been said today beats everything that has been said before. I'm though with them until they get their house in order which means a new owner and new management downwards. I didn't want it to come to this but enough is enough.

This man is the biggest clown of all.

Bollocks to the stadium, bollocks to anything, we need to save our club now.

Get them out. March on Goodison.

So angry at this statement…..before I was lethargic and bereaved. Now I KNOW where the issue lies.

A club with a massive fan base and with a superb location post-Brexit, in a world city, might be rather appealing. If the team is in crisis then the purchase price (even with a substantial contribution to the stadium costs) will be accordingly lower and Mr Moshiri (whose fortune after Usmanov's erasure now lies away from the UK) will have to take a hit.

Everton FC is a massively attractive asset.

Relegation is likely now. Something must change and rock bottom may change things. If the owner can't sack the manager then I'm more concerned supporting this club.

My advice to Frank is for your own dignity and future in management, resign! Go with some respect and give Everton a chance though small of survival.

The current manager will be gone before we play Arsenal.

Under the FFP rules this can happen under the Profitability and Sustainability rules.

This is already being written about so no doubt the shithouse FA will jump at the chance to give us (at least) 9 points, that will probably get us relegated anyway.

Buy at the bottom and sell at the top. There is much to recommend purchasing Everton at the bottom.

Grow a pair for fucks sake, you haven’t become a multi billionaire for being a soft touch

Bring some respect back to this club as currently we are a friggin laughing stock

It is now obvious he might be an Accountant, but does not have a clue about running a business. Not only that, he can't identify who can.

Look at the state of following, and I am ignoring the shite out on loan like Gomes, Alli, etc.

Player recruitment has been bad traced back to Martinez and Niasse. We've spaffed £700m on transfers and probably more on wages, and it looks like they've not even been watched before we bought them.

Begavic - out of contract
Pickford - sold, England goalie isn't going to stick around
Lonergan - out of contract

Coleman - retire
Coady - return loan
Mina - released
Vinagre - return loan
Patterson - sold, potentially decent elsewhere
Godfrey - someone will take him

Left Holgate, Mykolenko, Keane, Tarkowski - two are being shown the door, and the other two have been useless.

Doucoure - release
Davies - release
Onana - sold, will be good elsewhere
Townsend - release
Gordon - sold
Iwobi - sold

Left Gana, Garner, Gray, Mcneil. Gana looks finished, Garner not started, and the other two are championship.

Dcl - sold

Left Maupay, Simms - championship at best.

Job done. Three directors of football, and the tea lady could have done better asking Stevie Wonder

It looks shit at the moment, and it is, but therein lies our hope.

He's making Peter Johnson look like fuckin' Tinkerbell right now.

I very much doubt this weapon could even decide what the boardroom breakfast on Monday should be.

Absolute joke of a club.

I don't even blame Lampard, he walked into an absolute fuckin' circus one year ago and 'til this very day the circus rolls on.

The players are a shambles, a fuckin'embarrassment to themselves let alone the club and quite how they pick up the wage they do beggars belief.

The boardroom and the "owner" we have deserve relegation and they will succeed this season where last May they narrowly failed.

The only losers in this as usual will be the fans.

I'm done with them.

Forget about Moshiri saying something to put Bill in the frame in order to force Bill's hand because birds of a feather flock together.

Tonight's comment was him saying, "Alisher is in charge, not me. Look elsewhere for the blame game. Kenwright is Alisher's man, not mine. I am blameless!!!!"

"People seem to conveniently forget that Bill and Farhad are the best of friends"

The club’s new majority shareholder will give the manager the financial clout to buy big and keep his best young talent at Goodison

“Farhad is a very impressive man who is a businessman and a successful one but he also understands football because he’s been involved at Arsenal for a long time and that’s very rare. He knows how to support a manager and how to be involved in a football team. I’ve been impressed by his drive, he wants to have a winning team. He’s been following our results, performances and the reaction of the fans and I think he’s become an Evertonian. He’s fallen in love with the club and what it means.” (Roberto Martinez)

How Billionaire Moshiri can change Everton's Fortunes

Gotta hand it to him, guy can spin it, even in a second language. Where he falls down is in not knowing how obvious it is.

Plenty of bullshit out there though, but the rumours will escalate if true.

Just fuck off Mosh...NOW and the players who left the pitch straight after the final whistle instead of going over to our long suffering fans should be fucking sacked off tonight... there beyond contempt!

I’ve always suspected Moshiri is just the laundrette for Usmanov because every time I hear Moshiri speak I think to myself there is no way this guy is competent to run a business - he sounds like a complete buffoon.

Kenwright definitely played a blinder here / he wanted to sell the club and make a fortune but was adamant he wanted to have day to day running of the club. This suited Usmanov and Moshiri as Usmanov can stay in the background and Moshiri can’t tie his own shoe laces without asking Jim White for help.

It’s an absolute disaster from top to bottom. No leadership, no direction, no strategy and imminent relegation.
As some have said on here already this won’t just be relegation this will be Everton relegation.., complete and utter destruction. Likely points deduction renting the ground we won’t own and spiralling down the leagues with a lost generation of fans

I feel for my five year old boy who is one of only two Everton fans in the class getting stick every day

I’ll dance a jig the day Kenwright departs oh and final point - so disappointed in Sharp having a go at the fans tonight. I thought better of you as you were one of my boyhood heroes

Why do you think that maggot Kenwright faffed about so long to find an investor even turning down the Mansours, so he could profit and remain as Chairman ? He had to get the right dodgy dickhead who didn't care where someone else's money went ?

It has now become a 'laughing stock' for all but us fans, even Oxo are showing interest. I really can't see us avoiding anything but more defeats if nothing changes. Very sad times.

In the last 71 Premier League games Everton have won just 17 of them.

This goes back to the end of the Ancelotti reign before he left, then under Benitez and Lampard.

The abject failure to recruit recognised goal scorers last summer, has brought about the clubs demise.

but he won't. This, he knows, is most probably his last gig in management, unless he decides to drop down to league 1 or moves abroad where the financial benefits will be much lower.

he's a multi millionaire, but he also knows this is his last multi-million pay check.

he'll next be sat in the Sky/Bein/BT studios and living the life as a pundit, and probably making his money in other business ventures.

So he won't resign. But he should.

If he is still manager tomorrow, this club is an absolute shambles.

We need a new manager bounce in the hope we get some positive results against all logic against Arsenal and that lot over the park.

But we're screwed. we really are. we need a miracle.

There were lots of furious young lads talking about the lack of "good times" and one guy who was with his young boy decked out in all the merchandise. It's freezing and these fans would have had to go from their homes in Merseyside to Lime Street then to Euston and then out to Stratford which ain't exactly nearby in the capital.

Our fans are pretty amazing. I've been to way more away games than home matches and they are brilliant. Stoke, Fulham, Reading, Saints, West Ham, QPR, Arsenal, Watford...they always support the team and out sing the home fans.

Grow some balls and face the fans and be decisive.

Frank knows he is gone he just needs to be told and our gutless owner and his board of frauds need to have a succession plan if they even know what one is.

What happened to the strategic review and DBB looking for another job.

Just why is anyone at all surprised that Moshiri is about as plausible as Goebbels was to Arianism when it comes to football club ownership? All of his obscene personal wealth is accrued from kissing the ass of one of the various Putin acolytes who've financially raped their very own people to achieve vast wealth - now hugely de-valued in the UK on account of the mercilessly obscene invasion of Ukraine.

Just what is Sharp's precise job definition? Ditto Ingles, and the corporate bullshitter Lil' Miss D? Come to that what is Thelwell's role, and, if our alleged owner won't explain HIS OWN appointment of these people how the hell can anyone else, Everton fan or not, afford him one iota of credibility as he oversees OUR demise and the loss of his (allegedly) hundreds of £millions?

If anyone still believes BMD is the answer alone to rectify OUR shite-infested hierarchy's ineptitude I despair.

Not to mention the Good Times ?

It depresses me to realise that fan protest reduces the cost to our next avaricious owner in acquiring us but I genuinely think the club under Kenwright has long since squandered as a consequence any hope at all of us becoming a trophy winning team within my 68-year (and counting) lifetime.

Unless we're bought by a venal nation/state of course, or a now financially castrated mega-player in fascistic states such as Russia perhaps.

I'm 75 and I don't worry about anything over which I have no control. If it happens then it happens, just smile and enjoy what's left.

Don't cry that it's over, smile that it happened.

Leave things as they are, same owner, same chairman, same board, same mediocre players...

I can't wait… in a couple of seasons, we could all be in the Cow Shed End, marmalizing Tranmere Rovers in the derby game.

I wanted Koeman in. I also wanted Koeman out. We finished 7th. In which, with all our wealth, at the time, I, we Evertonions wanted higher.

Hindsight now. I would rather have Koeman or Silva, than Lampard.

Since he took over, no improvement at all! Relegation from day one he turned up! Only positive last season was 3 worst teams! The guy uses excuses time and time again! Yes the board get the flack but who actually interviewed Frank? Director of Football? The owner has a chain of command on manager and players to the Director of Football it would appear.

Frank won't walk as he knows this is it as a football manager. Teams have not improved under his guidance. Not one area of our play has improved! We are open to conceeding and going forward is slow and predictable. Frank take the cheque and head back to Sky and be an expert on the game. We might have some hope if Frank goes. Are these players this bad?

Next manager, dogs of war mentality! Experienced! Give 100% or get out! No time for snobbery about our next manager! We are not 2 players from Champions League qualification! Next manager must bring fans on board behind the players! This is our club's future and for generations of Everton fans! The board situation we can't do sod all about as we are hanging from a cliff! New manager equals more hope and energy!

Like every manager in the last thirty years Frank's hands have been tied when it comes to achieving trophies by the total ineptitude of those at the alleged top.

I have no doubt that Lampard was effectively and seriously deceived as to the truth of the club's finances when he signed on. His very recent comment that, in terms, he's not a miracle worker is so very reminiscent of Ancelotti towards the end of his departure to go on to restoring Real Madrid's trophy winning legend.

Our manager under this owner/board is irrelevant.

End of.

We're doomed.

It's not as simple as that.

Dyche wasn't working for a basket case of a club when at Burnley and let's not forget that even at Burnley where he had 11 hard-working no frills players they were still in dogfights every season.

I can't honestly see Dyche being this bold attack-minded manager that transforms the way our players won't fuckin move over the halfway line and frankly they aren't good enough to hold out for shit loads of clean sheets either even with a pragmatic like Dyche at the helm.

We should have been out looking at Unai Emery before Villa got him but hey this is Everton Football Club isn't it?

The club that doesn't move on.

I disagree partially that, as a coach or manager, you're based on results and performances. I see only relegation under Frank. Frank knew the situation at Everton was not perfect by any means.

Sadly, the players are not fighting for him. I like Frank as a person and yes his appointment was set up to struggle. Either he is trying a method that simply we don't have the players to do or cannot change his methods.

The Everton board thought Carlo Ancelotti would take us to new heights. Yes, with a further £300 million sending needed. Once Carlo knew we could only go so far, he left.

Our expectations as fans have been over the top with a billionaire. A club doesn't become Champions Leaague over night and certainly not with players we have bought.

Sam allardyce laughed when a reporter said "Champions League possible?" "No," he replied, "as we need consistency in the Top 6 and more quality to mount a Top 4 spot."

Personally, a manager with Championship experience who knows a battle. Tells the players "Fight or out!" These players are lacking the truth and Frank is too kind. He should have laid into the players after yesterday. No hunger, desire and fight. All our defeats are easy for the opposition.

We are going down but mathematically it's not over. Unless one of us has a spare billion pounds in the airing cupboard, we are stuck with this board for now. Change of manager now is our only hope!

Yes FL has to take some responsibility however he should not be made a scapegoat to appease the fans history tells us to be careful what we wish for

The owner is sanctioned so cannot even enter the country as a result everyone is looking to his puppet for the answer. Yes the prick who cant tie his own laces attended his first game since the appointment of FL

The only way we will get out of this horrible situation is for everyone to pull in the same direction and work their balls off

This also means the board who were completely unjustified by hanging the most passionate fans in the country out to dry getting their act together and acting like responsible custodians

Two hard games ahead it is up to these players to turn up and die for the shirt

https://youtu.be/sWh0DOAfc7A

The lyrics fit our clowns to a "T".

"Knight" to a gunfight apparently