Chong appointed to the Board with Kenwright staying on for now

ENOUGH IS ENOUGH.

We have no other course of action now if we want to get rid of these two.

Unbelievable!!!

Not in the least bit surprised and I'm very underwhelmed and saddened by this news

Like the young boy stood in front of the 1p Bubble Gum machine and all he has in his pocket is a 50p piece, sadly there's…

NO CHANGE NO CHANGE

Kenwright will think this is hilarious and his thoughts won't turn to Barrett-Baxendale or any of us. Same old same old.

Everton's diagnosis is terminal.

Bill will outlive us all.

It is shocking when you consider that they were aiming for their own heads.

He will not mind splitting the supporters into two groups – he will take great satisfaction from it.

Because his shares will be worth a damn site more.

Nothing more scientific than that – just pure greed, or, from a business perspective, common sense.

Sooner he goes, the sooner we move forward.

Here's to hoping and praying.

If his tears convince them that we are innocent and have no punishment, he may well expect to be made Life President. I wouldn't be surprised if Mr Moshiri has promised him something if he gives the independent commission the acting performance of his life.

On his watch, there have been some very poor management, recruitment (I don't mean players here) and business decisions. The open letter he wrote a couple of months back was a perfect illustration of weak leadership.

Let's hope that the new investors will get their bearings pretty quickly and take Bill out of the picture.

Please don't wait until we are fighting the drop next May! Moshiri needs to feel fan power… an empty Goodison against Fulham will have the desired effect. Kenwright should be and is by any metric unacceptable.

Both of these are incompetent buffoons and need sacking, Please spare me the sanctimonious "Get behind the Blues" bullshit… he is not our club. Remember how your stomach felt the morning of the last day of last season?

Eventually, the company cottoned on and fired her and a competent person turned things around. This is precisely what Kenwright has done – and Moshiri is clueless still thinking he is invaluable as he has his hand in everything.

As it now stands, it appears regrettably to be yet another in a catalogue of poor decisions by the owner.

If he had walked and turned down the offer, for the good of the club, and to get the fans back on track, it might have shown a small bit of dignity, but he hasn't even got that.

The big question of course is how long will this transition be? Moshiri is not so dim as to think the fans can or will forgive Kenwright en masse so one would hope that he'll be out by the time the new season starts – but who knows?

I guess the truth is that, so long as we get in a few new players and play better next season, the levels of ire and opprobrium will dial down a bit. Perhaps Kenwright is determined not to leave on a low?

Have to hope that these new investors take hold of the reins soon and know what to do with them.

Less than ideal with Kenwright staying on, the new investment doesn't necessarily alter the club's profit and loss statement nor does it guarantee any transfer funds for the summer transfer window where reinforcements are needed.

Our new board will be called Friends united behind Kenwright Everton defined. Unfortunately that abbreviates to
F U K E D!

Our new board will be called Friends united behind Kenwright Everton defined. Unfortunately that abbreviates to
F U K E D.😀

Well, Kenwright is good at theatre, he has turned EFC into a pantomime. How can a football club be run from London and Monaco by phone?

Kenwright could have been made a consultant instead of remaining as chairman.

Moshiri may well be a billionaire but his judgement is severely in question even if this board is only short term.

I'm still shaking with rage… I can't even think straight.

I don't think that acronym's as snappy as you think it is.

Moshiri is treating Everton FC and all its fans as fools keeping Kenwright even for a short period.

No person in history has done as much damage to Everton as Kenwright, better short-term pain with a boycott than drawn-out disaster.

This statement just shows Moshiri's contempt for supporters, his total lack of football nouse, and his disregard for Everton FC, apart from his sacred cow at Bramley-Moore Dock!

Bits and pieces investment of a few million from American investors is a drop in the ocean considering what we need and none of it will be available for strengthening the squad.

I'm not surprised this has been announced after the longest 48 hours in football history. It was pretty obvious something was going on behind the scenes, I'm just totally depressed that we don't seem to be moving forward as a club under this man's ownership. The sooner he is gone, the better!

Feels like they are living on a different planet.

If Kenwright is still around for the Fulham match, every banner in the ground should read “Kenwright Out!” I'm not a fan of not showing up to cheer on the players.

Think I heard the above about 25 years ago!

Sepp Blatter, Gordon Taylor, Mugabe, Castro and Putin always ask themselves what would Everton do as they get it right all of the time!

Football finance expert Kieran Maguire has given a scathing assessment of Everton's hierarchy and offered an insight into potential investment in the club.

On Friday, it was announced by owner Farhad Moshiri that Bill Kenwright will remain as the club's chairman - over a week after the promised 48-hour deadline for an announcement on his future.

Speaking to BBC Radio Merseyside, Maguire said: "It's a poor way to run a business. If you are going to have a transfer of ownership then you have a proper succession plan.

"I think we could write a full drama in terms of what's happened at boardroom level and above in respect of Everton Football Club.

"Three directors were effectively sacked - they were made scapegoats by the owner in terms of what's happened over the past few years. We were told over a week ago that we would be told of Bill Kenwright's new role, if any.

"The news which has come in overnight from the US is that MSP Sports Capital has raised about $160m. Why would an investment fund raise money? It would be because it's got something to invest in.

"They will want some bang for their buck and that bang will be that opportunity to contribute towards the key decisions at boardroom level.

"What they don't want is Everton to waste the money. I think the club can be accused of that over the past five or six years in terms of player recruitment.

"Cost control appears to have gone out of the window in terms of wages. In regards to the new stadium – costs have risen significantly."

I wonder what the next exciting episode will bring?

That this is an" Interim" board to enable the club to sell/buy players, and do all the things necesssary for a club to do, in the run up to the new season.

I think Colin Chong seems a competent man, the way he's handled the building of the stadium so far. The accountant is hopefully capable of keeping the finance operation in good order. I wonder if Thelwell will be a director responsible for the football operation, hope so because I'd hate to see Mr Moshiri and Kenwright carry on with their disastrous interfering!

If it means we can function as a Premier League club while the MSP investment goes ahead, then that seems sensible. If it means that we carry on as before, then that is totally unforgivable.

In 3 weeks, MSP agree their investment and want a new chairman. Chairman #2 leaves after 3 weeks and we get Chairman #3.

Only alternative is MSP say who Chairman #3 is going to be and they are appointed now. What happens if MSP does not happen? We now have a Chairman who has no support of the owner or the board.

We may not like it – but keeping Kenwright in place for now is not stupid based on the above.

I don't believe that there is any stipulation in a contract that states Kenwright has to remain chairman or he has any hold over him. This is simply a case of passing the buck to try and remain blameless for the mess the club are in.

As I have said on another thread, Kenwright will welcome the new board members with, "Welcome to the board where your input will be wanted and your suggestions will be noted, but remember what I say is the only thing that matters on this board."

While on a yacht in Monaco, the call goes out "Let's have a party, I have sidestepped another mini crisis!!"

Whilst there is a certain amusement to be had from watching this, I fear that these paroxysms of rage may do some of my fellow blues some real harm. So let me help you regain some equilibrium.

This is a transitional arrangement! Surely it is obvious that MSP will want some say in the appointment of a new Chairman. In fact, taken together, today's developments are a vital stepping stone which should now quickly lead to the full reorganisation of the board.

Of course, even when Kenwright goes and the new board, including new chairman, are in place, many of our problems will still be with us. The Premier League investigation will still be hanging over us. Moshiri will be calling the shots, as he has been since the start of his disastrous reign in 2016.

The hope these announcements bring, however, is that, by investing in us, MSP are showing confidence that the Premier League investigation is groundless. Also, that Moshiri will be constrained by MSP as they seek to protect their investment.

Ultimately we must hope that this is positive news which will stabilise the club and eventually lead to a full takeover. Then and only then can we begin to believe that we can at last move on from the managed decline of the Kenwright years and the incompetence of the Moshiri era.

Wouldn't any decent owner have sounded out a new CEO during the last 6 months when it was obvious the CEO's and board's positions were untenable? It shows his clear lack of vision, planning, strategy and decisiveness.

Is it any wonder he has struggled for investment? How the meetings with potential investors go, we can only imagine.

The sooner he's gone, the better in my opinion. Yes, chairman Bill needs to go, but it's Moshiri's meddling, bad decisions, weak leadership, terrible communication and utter incompetence that's left us in this position.

Check out Track 3 on latest album "Will of the People". Plainly written about our recent and current predicament.

One day, I hope my club might move on from laughing stock status.

That Kenwright moves to his rest home as soon as a new Board is selected/elected whatever; and he's no longer part of it!

It will go beyond that and we will all have to be careful. He could continue to haunt us from the other side.

Spending £500M poorly does more damage than spending £200M wisely, it's now knackered us under P&S rules with little ability to spend for seasons to come.

Kenwright will stay on to keep the attention on him rather than Moshiri. Moshiri may not know much about football but he's wise enough to know he needs a flack jacket.

For those of you who can't be bothered to look it up, the title is 'We are fucking fucked.'

Ask Alexa to play Z Cars and then to play Track 10 as above. It will become an earworm and you can buy the t-shirt.

If it was ours, we wouldn't allow it to be run so appallingly. We, as fans and supporters, can merely watch on, it's pathetic.

What a delusional tosser he is.

Following your own logic, why sack the 3 board members and appoint new board members when MSP may want to put their own CEO and CFO in place?

Regardless of being deranged or not. Kenwright is a monumental failure for our club.

For all we know, MSP may turn into our Hicks and Gillette. They could be terrible and we get into even further trouble.

One thing is for sure with Kenwright and Moshiri we are sinking like a stone.

We're a total laughing stock, and for Moshiri to reappoint the worst chairman and owner in the club's history, who loves himself more than the club, is staggering.

A bitter little man who hasn't been seen at Goodison since January, not because of threats, but because of lies. He can't stomach what the fans really think of him.

Ask Alexa. Maybe she could join the board.

How can he ever attend again after the last 6 months? It's a fuckin joke.

Unless they were coached in what they were to be asked and how to reply, they had the perfect opportunity to detail his failings, from the Kings Dock to Headlockgate – that may have opened a few fans' eyes who may still think he's the messiah. 😡🤷

Exactly the point! Why should we trust Moshiri's judgement on the MSP investment? Is it just the only people who will give him the cash or are they right for the club?

Anyone who wants to invest in this circus with Moshiri and Kenwright still running the show must have either questionable judgement or blind faith.

It's unthinkable that someone would give this man, who's blown £100s of millions and taken us to the brink, another £150M to waste.

I wouldn't give Moshiri the change I could find down the back of our couch!!!

Only us, the fans, and our reaction to this treacherous news can hope to get Kenwright out of his position as Chairman. He continues to suck the very life out of our beloved club.

KENWRIGHT HAS TO GO
KENWRIGHT OUT
GO NOW IF YOU LOVE THE CLUB

(He may do but he loves himself more)

As for "transitional", does anyone really think he will be leaving while he has any fingernails left?

I speculate that Kenwright is hanging on to the coattails of the dark details behind Usmanov's involvement with Moshiri's buyout. Not so much a skeleton in the cupboard but something more akin to Narnia. Or Smarmia in the case of Betty Turpin's bastard son.

A sad day for the club.

His expertise and knowledge – what of? How to piss £750M up the wall. How to throw Evertonians under a bus? How to promote mediocrity et al. Disgraceful.

Boycott the pre-season friendlies, including the home game versus Sporting, if he's still haunting the place. Enough is enough.

Very well could be. Same old! Same old!

Go to Fulham first game up and you are condoning this.
10 years and counting for me – shove the new stadium up their arses, out of principle and morals, my self-imposed exile will continue until that cock Kenwright is gone.

Expect to be bottom 4 or 5 come April again.

If I were Sean Dyche I'd drop this Mickey Mouse excuse for a club right in it: 2 days before the Fulham game. How fucking disrespectful to the man who saved Everton just a few weeks ago.

Football is a turgid, corrupt, shitty little game without any dignity. Good luck everyone, cos you are going to need it following that shite. Scandalous.

Far better to control change rather than indulge in immediate wholescale revolution as they seldom deliver what the masses imagine.

The Russian Revolution was a fight against autocracy but served only to put in the chimps of Lenin then Stalin. The French Revolution battered its own people with Robespierre's "reign of terror", and the English Civil War rebellion cowardly backtracked from republicanism when Cromwell cancelled Xmas.

Well in, Moshiri.

I hope MSP have deep pockets, that £150M won't last very long with the vast experience and expertise of Moshiri and Kenwright.

If Sean Dyche can keep us up again, it will be a miracle.
File this news under ‘deeply concerning'.

Kenwright has no plans at all to step down and the ridiculous statement today about needing him to remain as Chairman is frightening as we are seriously fucked with these two idiots.

Please can they explain, whilst under their direction, we are being investigated for breaching P&S rules, for back to back relegation battles, multiple managers, spunking millions on very average players etc etc etc.

Just fuck off now, Bill, you narcissist prick.

I wonder what Denise Barrett-Baxendale and Sharpy are feeling right now?

Kenwright has no plans at all to step down and the ridiculous statement today about needing him to remain as Chairman is frightening as we are seriously fooked with these two idiots.

Please can they explain whilst under their direction we are being investigated for breaching P&S rules, for back-to-back relegation battles, multiple managers, spunking millions on very average players, etc etc etc.

Just fuck off now, Bill, you narcissist prick.

I wonder what Barrett-Baxndale and Sharp are feeling right now?

An ongoing enquiry, no transfers in, and a club in disarray. The omens are not good so far, for the build-up to next season.

The person with the money and control of our club continues to make mistake after mistake after mistake after mistake..

He's the one continuing board member that has remained in place for decades with the last 6 seasons progressively getting worse.

He should have been the first to go but it feels like the club will be gone before Kenwright exits the building!

Kenwright Out!

On match day we support the manager and the team. Unfortunately, there is nothing else we can do.

Kenwright Stays & MSP Investment Confirmed | Everton Daily Extra LIVE

What a pantomime. This has made me so angry, I can't cope today.

Club communicates sweeping changes and a transition board

ToffeeWeb Posters: This club is a joke, they don't respect the fans!

I'm thrilled at this first step, it shows that real change is now coming when an interim board is announced. I would have preferred a full change now, but clearly MSP or whoever involved is not ready. These things do take time.

I'm still unsure on Thelwell, his signings haven't been great but he has been getting rid of the deadwood. Might be worth keeping him on for another season, and giving him a chance to mould the squad.

We are clearly stuck this way... if – and I suspect it may happen – we sign no one over the summer, then let rip the dogs of war and let the protests commence!

And, I am not sure what sweeping changes you are alluding to, Dan?

Two club senior managers will take interim executive roles and the chairman will remain in post. Moshiri joins 7 years too late as a non-executive director and a former finance associate takes a board position.

MSP have filed the paperwork for the loan in the US, therefore their board representation will have already been agreed as part of the deal. It makes zero sense to make an interim announcement when permanent board appointments are imminent.

How this has been handled over the last 10 days has been a typical shambles. If Kenwright remains in role at the start of the season, the protests and chaos will continue.

Mr Moshiri‘s actions here have blown the bloody doors off any unity. It will lead to mass protest at the first downtown or poor result. Instead of unity, there is going to be rabid disunity. The sort that affects players, managers and backroom staff.

A club in our position needs all the help it can get. With this decision, Mr Moshiri is doing the opposite and is seriously threatening the value of his own investments as well as MSP's.

I would advise him to make sure this transitional period is a matter of days or weeks. Definitely not months. A statement to fans regarding this is absolutely necessary and would be welcome.

We cannot start the new season with the worst Chairman in the club's history still at the club. The club desperately needs to move on to a new era.

Are they that bad that they can't be included? We are down to the bare bones of a squad with no-one coming in and possibility more to leave.

Why sack the other 3 last week if change was coming? Why the need for interim? Why not wait and just announce the new board if and when it comes?

Bill is going nowhere.

This is just Kenwright's Everton being Kenwright's Everton.

We have an amazing stadium being built, I honestly feel positive for our future. Moshiri's reign has been a cluster fuck from Day 1. But I hope he wants to correct his errors, and stick around to put it all right.

I'd rather have an owner using his own company finances, than investors who add debt to the club.

We are naturally hurting and scarred from what we've been through. We are defensive and cynical.

I will try and stay balanced, as much as I am angry, as much as my son was fuming and calling us a joke of a club earlier today. He was five months old when we last won a trophy and "watched" it in his pram. I keep telling him he's seen Everton win a trophy.

McNulty wrote a good piece on the BBC today. Take a read. It reflects the sentiment of most Evertonians. Those in the corridors of power must know it.

We are naturally sceptical and cynical like a wounded animal. We've been hurt too many times by a failing regime. Why should we trust them?

If this is genuinely interim, then what does interim mean? Wait until MSP invest? Wait until the investigation? Wait until the stadium opens? Wait until Bill decides to go voluntarily? He can't come back. That is beyond repair. He's been on the board in some capacity and very influential for 34 years. That is only two years after we were last Champions of the top flight of English football.

Another summer of discontent, worry and uncertainty on the cards.

Anyway, I just want the Fulham tickets to go on sale. We should get the Upper Bullens away section for that one.

And when the season starts, we will be there in force for the team and the manager.

One of the people that resigned was someone that hasn't been to Goodison since they were assaulted and spat at. The other a footballing hero that has been slated as a yes-man.

For all we know, they might have wanted to get out of the club. Can't be a good feeling to work your arse off and get slagged off by people that have no idea what you do.

Back at you, mate!

We should probably mentally prepare that he will stay with us until the end (club's or his, whichever comes first...).

Who was it that was assaulted and spat at?

I could be describing Everton fans, the Everton owner or simply all things Everton. I just know it's the worst but best entertainment, both for and against Evertonians everywhere.

Truly an unbelievable story that continues to twist and turn like the brewing storm it is.

Of all the possible outcomes, Moshiri goes and picks the worst of the bunch.

Kenwright must have some serious dirt on this gormless moron to be able to survive whatever happens.

I honestly give up.

I have never in my entire life seen anything run in such a pathetic, shoddy, amateurish way that, from the outside, must look like deliberate suicide. Not even a kid's football team or a window-cleaning round.

It's horror beyond belief unfolding before our eyes, I almost know how the families of those people in that pathetic excuse for a submarine felt, a piece of crap unfit for purpose whose owners wouldn't listen to common-sense concerns and, even now, refuse to take the blame for the disaster.

I hear that a new script is in the pipeline working title "Lies and Lols" or its back-up "Lies and Trolls".

"Can't be a good feeling to work your arse off and get slagged off by people that have no idea what you do."

As a fan, how do you know they worked their arses off – if fans have no idea what they do? Or do you have the inside scoop of the goings on at the club?

The press are stating that MSP have raised £166 million to put into the club to guarantee that the funds are now in place to complete the stadium. But that hasn't been confirmed by Moshiri and, if they have raised that money, then why haven't they had anyone appointed to the board?

Seems as ever, since Moshiri took over as the major shareholder, we have more questions than answers. It's reported that Ancelotti is suing Everton over unpaid bonuses that were agreed by Usmanov, while Moshiri has said Usmanov had nothing to do with the club.

Also, how long does Moshiri think this interim board will be in place? And will they be still there at the start of the season? And will his existant chairman attend games with all the damage that could do to morale around the ground?

So eventually Moshiri makes a statement of sorts but it doesn't answer any of the questions, just more smoke and mirrors.

If you are so incensed, Colin, why didn't you go to the Liver Building protest like those who actually did something about their issues? Busy washing the car?

Cowardly and pathetic. Accountability for the wilderness years and terminal erosion of Everton FC but Kenwright clearly sees the facts from his own book of bullshit.

The spirit will never wain but the joy of watching and supporting Everton with the pariah still there is galling and takes any joy out of it.

If there's a plan, why can't the club share it? The club's communications are pathetic while the preseason must have momentum and positives.

A third season on the volcano face will be difficult to survive.

UTFTs!

Is there a hidden reason that you feel the need to copy and paste articles from BBC Sport onto whatever thread you mistakenly feel benefits from it? I assume that we're all licence fee payers or have access to BBC.co.uk.

You even do it on match days with insightful yet borrowed snippets from BBC commentators, albeit 15 minutes after the originators have posted. I don't get it, frankly.

“Is it annoying that I still see positivity in the things I mentiomed above, instead of predicting the end and wallowing in self-pity?”

There are some people out there, that no matter how many times they are wrong (and how!) continue to believe that it's just everybody else. This one's a bit like the Black Knight from Monty Python.….

All right, we'll call it a draw.

All Bill wants is to lead the club to the new stadium as chairman and I suspect he may get his wish.

If Moshiri gets rid of him, all the shite will then head his way, so as others have pointed out this could be Moshiri trying to be clever – again!

First home game will be interesting!

They don't give a fuck about us supporters and that wobbling gob arsehole will have his day at Bramley-Moore Dock.

But the crash involved a car with a driver and three passengers. The rozzers have turned up and despite the driver being clearly completely demented and having a series of convictions for dangerous driving, they have arrested the passengers, for reasons which are obscure. They have then told him he is at liberty to resume driving in any way he cares, as incompetently and dangerously as he likes.

To sign off with my preferred aphorism: FUCK OFF, KENWRIGHT!

https://youtu.be/Nyvxt1svxso

Kenwright's MO right there.

Maybe I'm wrong; maybe you witnessed it with your own eyes, and thousands of Evertonians are wrong for believing the board tried to throw them under the bus. Telling lies and trying to gain the sympathy vote, with the help of their friends in the media, whilst they were the ones who were wallowing in fake self-pity.

There will undoubtedly be an attempt to split the fans and play them against each other. United We Stand – and push the pair of useless bastards out of our once proud club.

MOSHIRI AND KENWRIGHT OUT!

He is taking his encore like a pro, engineered and as false as it gets. The conversation between the two men must have ended with their last lines, "The fans won't like it" then, "Fuck the fans." Spite is a vindictive nastiness.

This is exactly the outcome I expected, even stated as much on the CEO thread; two men cut from the same cloth. A total and utter despisement of the fanbase is now being reciprocated. Laughingly, there are posters on this site who actually take pleasure from it.

Somewhere in this mess is a deadline. On that date, MSP will have an agreed deal, a new board structure. But it's also clear this interim board is no such thing. It may be added to, it may have a new chairman, but it will still be Moshiri's board.

Key, quite significantly, is the appointment of himself as a director and Kenwright as Chairman. Tightening a grip on the daily decision-making irrespective of incoming investment, a welcome to investors he also sees as a threat to his ownership. A necessary evil.

Nor can he ignore the upcoming independent commission in October. Whilst no-one outside of the owner and Chairman know the detail of the alleged breach, he obviously wants someone on the board who was involved in the matter or actually made the call.

This is a totally predictable outcome from two men who profess to love the club, yet love money more. The protests will rightly continue, Kenwright anxiously standing at the bus stop as the bus approaches, can he feel the slight touch of Moshiri behind him?

He ushers the new people to their seats?

He doesn't attend, yet again but they do? Preferable but how bizarre will that be?

Surely he cannot just take a seat as though nothing has happened. Narcissists are good at living a lie but that would take some brass neck on his part

Kenwright Out!!

Incidentally, Cheech and Chong’s ‘Up In Smoke” was a popular VHS rental back in the day. Let’s hope the title isn’t prophetic for Everton.

Apologies for the gallows humour everyone. 😭

My kopite mates (spit) are laughing their heads off at all this. It's purely gallows humour from me.

Any chance Chong can locate Tyrown Shoelaces? He could help out ol' cucumber head I got a football Jones oh baby ooh ooh ooh.

As Sting once sang, "If you love somebody, set them free." Clearly William doesn't believe in any of that sentimental bullshit.

We'll be pushing for 16th place next season then...

MSP now have three voting Board members? Then Moshri. And lastly (purposefully last) Bill.

Does this not then render Bill completely a eunuch when it comes to decision-making? Surely all MSP Board members will vote in a block? Even if Moshri sides with Bill on some issue, it's a 3-2 vote, no?

If the above is accurate, Bill's a flaccid farce board member?

If anyone has the time or patience to accurately lay out the Board voting dynamic and composition, please do. It will go a long way to determining if Bill can do a damn thing about anything moving forward.

It's a nightmare that never ends.

We need fresh blood and a few hotshots who know how to balance the books and steer clear of P&S rules breaches.

I wonder what the reception from the supporters would be like, should the world's greatest evertonian take his seat at the match?? Does he think he would get a good reception? I can't see him showing his gob at the match again.

Anyway. I've been wondering how long it's going to be, that this interim board, stays interim. Well to be more precise, how long will this Interim Chairman stay Interim chairman! If he fulfills a Chairman's necessary functions during the rest of the time before the first match, I'd see that as doing a necessary role, so our club can function with a CEO, Finance Director, and a Board. So that we can buy/sell players, manage the accounts of funds coming in and funds going out. That he is able to do the Chairman's duties when the Board meets (change is good as a rest).

By the time that our investors are ready to take up roles on the Board, we should be functioning and a seamless change of Chairman (I'm laughing as I write this) can take place. All before the first match takes place.

If that's the interim that Mr Moshiri is talking about, then personally, I could put up with it. If Kenwright or Moshiri have any thoughts that the Interim Chairman can go beyond 11 August, then I think the demonstrations of last season will pale to the ones in the coming season.

"This is exactly the outcome I expected even stated as much on the CEO thread;"

So on the CEO thread when you were contemplating going to Mass on Sunday... it wasn't to give thanks?

One day, I might read something that is actually believable, but I doubt it will be whilst either Kenwright or Moshiri, are still involved in our club.

On the reception Kenwright is likely to receive... see Dave A. #15

On "interim"... it's a bit like how long is a piece of string or maybe, more appropriately, how long is 48 hours?

I confess that hope might have got the better of me and kindled that fire of expectation but thanks to the almighty, it was quickly extinguished as is the catholic way. Pragmatism soon replaced it... with a thump.

The man obviously must have skin like an elephant, it's obvious he can't attend a game so why not just call it a day?

No, not Bill, he thinks he is the club; he's not, so why would you want to stay on if you're so vilified?

As others have alluded to, Bill will outlive everyone. Of that I'm sure.

Another sad day in the recent history of our club.

It's possible but I think his walkout because of "dangerous supporters" and leaving us and the manager's team to support our squad for 3 months, while facing relegation.

Well, I think a lot more supporters will have been giving thoughts to how the Board left us to support our lads during the battle against relegation. Mind you, he could have been in the Gwladys Street end... where the old Boys Pen was.

Jim #146... actually hope you've called it more correctly than Dave A. as I suspect he will too.

I hope that many more supporters are like us, and are fed up with the state that our club has been dragged down to.

I remember when he was clapped, when his smiling gob was shown on the big screen. Yes, we can but hope that many more supporters have seen through his antics.

ps: Your piece of string mention is spot on!

1) What was "the English Civil War Rebellion"?

2) How “Republicanism” was an objective of this “English Civil War Rebellion” (ie, something that it “backtracked" from)?

3) How was this “backtracking” achieved by Cromwell “cancelling” Christmas?

4) What exactly was the role of the “masses” in this ‘English Civil War Rebellion'?

Hint: Christmas was not abolished by Cromwell. Christmas, Easter, and Whitsun were abolished by Parliamentary ordinance in 1644 when Cromwell was still a cavalry commander and long before he had any real political power or England was a Republic.

Barry, you do sometimes sprinkle claims to other bodies of knowledge in your posts as some sort of larger claim to credibility, authority, and superiority, I suppose. But maybe I am wrong and you can supply convincing answers to my questions about your claims to knowledge.

You talk so often about the “masses” or “mob rule” when it comes to Everton supporters. Many seem to disagree with your views with more reason perhaps if your invocations of knowledge and history are as misleading as they appear to be here.

I hope Sean Dyche can steer us through the mire that is about to descend on us, and he doesn't cut and run. Because we are then well and truly in the mire! And the season is not even under way!

How sad am I, a life-long Evertonian!!!!

Moshiri seems to love reading books written by self-proclaimed footballing experts like Sam Allardyce. Could someone direct him towards more important things to read, like just about anything online about what most of the fanbase really think about Bill Kenwright???

That bloody barnacle really must have some hold over Moshiri...

If only Phillip Seymour Hoffman had not died, he could have given the perfect portrayal of Bill crying at MSP and Moshiri accusing them of trying to off an 80-year-old man. He probably gave the performance of a lifetime and talked them into some consolation prize. He may claim bad health later to avoid the spectacle.

The release happening on a Friday looks like a weak hand. Some other news will turn this around, it just looks and feels bad because clumsy arrogant fuckers are doing it.

And Paul, I will be looking up any of my historical references going forward. That was Stephen Fry level.

The 3 phases of the Civil War period were a mix of ship money and religious arguments summed up as parliamentary forces rebelling against the king. Once they whipped Charles l's head off, we were effectively a republic. After about 10 years, we jacked it and got his son back to rule over us, thus the republic was binned

Plenty of info out there if you want more detail but essentially that covers it.

Yeh, cancelling Xmas is a caricature of the Puritanical rule of Cromwell; shame you took it so literally.

And anyone still gullible enough to swallow the bullshit that this is an interim appointment should remember how long 48 hours lasts in Blue Bill's alternative universe. I forecast a few days ago that he would remain as there's still some asset stripping to be done from the sale of remaining players, plus a parachute fund to dip into after relegation and then a hefty wedge for arranging the sale and lease back of the new stadium for a huge rent.

Still, there's always the 60-foot bronze Chairman Bill statue to be unveiled before the opening fixture against Millwall to look forward to. Paid for by the rip-off TicketMaster deal.

Remember the good times, eh. For Chairman Bill, they've never been better.

As we all know, Moshiri's utterances are meaningless when it comes to giving his views on the strengths of his employees, and some of the media will play fast and loose with the emotions of Evertonians in the next few weeks.

We must not over-react and do anything which helps to strengthen the false charges of being a rabid mob. Keep patient, and wait until the start of the season, if the situation hasn't been resolved to our satisfaction by that time, we can renew the protests, if we so wish.

Fans should be in no doubt that this is an interim board which has been put together by owner Farhad Moshiri, essentially a stopgap whilst the real deal is done with MSP, and that deal will be done.

Moshiri wants the best-looking investment deal possible not only to pay for the completion of the new stadium but also to put the club in a stronger financial position, and that will take around six to seven weeks to complete.

Work is well underway and that work will now continue with the stability needed provided by the temporary board arrangement.

Light finally at the end of the tunnel for the Toffees?

...who can't control events? Sometimes those leading an organisation find that things become chaotic to such an extent that the situation becomes unmanageable and unpredictable. Decisions are made, unintended consequences occur. Further reactive decisions are made. Further unintended consequnces occur. The whole situation becomes unmanageable.

Maybe, just maybe, that's where Moshiri is at the moment. Being buffeted from one unintended consequence to another. Making decisions on the hoof. This might explain (eventually) why 48 hours came and went.

Trying to explain what's going on (sometimes expressed on here with an air of certainty) with current absence of information is perhaps fruitless. Bill will go? Bill will prevail? What "strange attractors"?

When things eventually settle down in terms of board membership, ownership etc, history might be written to convey a sense of what was "obviously" going on.

For the moment, sit back and "enjoy" the ride.

I always see myself as a "glass half full person" but I also like to think I can at least sometimes read the "runes".

Everton dispense with three Board members with the future of Blue Bill to be pronounced upon 48 hours later. 144 hours later Blue Bill is staying. Surprising...not!

They've feinted a left and smacked us right in the jaw with an unexpected uppercut.

Channeling my inner Barry Rathbone...in a way...I admire it!

To cut to the chase...Blue Bill ain't going anywhere, anytime, soon.

No one shocked about Kenwright.

The word "interim" is going to take on a new meaning, similar to "48 hours."

Back burner this statement from Everton for a moment.

What have MSP said ?
I don't know if I have missed something, but they don't appear to have said a word about anything. Including what or where or how they see themselves at Everton.
What money they are putting in and to what ends and expectations etc..
Are they aware of the wreckage that is never ending in Billy Moshiri's circus. Because remaining silent is
deeply concerning.

Usmanov.
Clearly, if what is circulating is true, this guy isn't going to just walk away. He is a business man that operates in the shadows. He will expect his investment + high return on capital + and then some.
You don't get close to Putin by losing millions let alone hundreds of millions.

FFP (or the premier leagues version)
Its another millstone.
Can the club enter the transfer market ?
Do they need authority / permission to ?
Where does the club stand right now in regards to this.

Carlogate
He must know something bad is about to occur and perhaps is getting in the queue first ?
Again why havent the club opened up about this ?

Back to TRANSFERS
Summer hols
Apparantly nothing re players coming in would / will happen until next month because those responsible are in glasto or sunny climes.

What half decent player (in their right mind) would have Everton as a destination of choice ?????

This sad saga will carry on and on and on methinks, so get a hefty pan of scouse down yer neck and dig in.

Brent 155, I can always find space to understand what happens in a breakdown if trusted. These guys have really failed in their communication strategy. If they are shrewd enough to pull it off okay but if not low-rents like me will definitely take the opportunity to call them clumsy abusive fuckers. I guess I should take a calmer approach since I was telling others to hang in there.

I am being to think no agreement between Kenwright and Moshiri ever existed, they really are Blood Brothers from the start.

"Plenty of info out there if you want more detail but essentially that covers it".

Sorry Barry, that's absolutely laughable and shows, as I thought, you had absolutely no understanding of what you were spouting about, and that you would be unable to answer the questions I asked.

I don't need more "info" or "detail", I'm a Professor of Sixteenth- and Seventeenth-Century British History and have taught this stuff for twenty-five years.

I was intrigued to see how you would react, and you didn't let me down.

You clearly don't know your history, although like your sense of our club and its fans, you clearly want people to think that you do.

The term ‘influencer’ just makes my skin crawl anyway. I still can’t get around the notion that Bill’s influence comes mainly from knowing where the ‘bodies are buried’. Surely he can’t be considered to be indispensable. He won’t even work as a human shield for Moshiri because he’s just had the ideal opportunity of ditching him.

Please don't disappoint, Barry. Some of us need to get our laughs where we can.

Rarely, have I ever agreed with Barry, but if that's your contribution...stick to lurking.

PS Looking forward to Paul F tearing Barry R a new one!

Paul can't contain his excitement...why exactly?

As though they now give a Kenwright-inspired fuck though.

But Chong and t'other new guy would be bonkers beyond belief NOT to accept an Everton directors salary of immense size, devoid of even a scintilla of accountability to those identified by everyone outside the boardroom as, what's that weird term?, oh yes!, "fans"!

We’re all in this together.
Alan@ 50 - I am peed off with the BK drama but do think you provided a sensible, balanced argument.

The club has 7 weeks to sort its shit out.

Before I address your Board composition explanation, and thank you very much by the way, I have to say:

I know nothing about this English 16th-Century Civil War.

Being a true American, I thought the only Civil War in world history occurred on the North American continent.

I digress.

Jay, that means one of two things if I'm reading the room correctly.

1. Moshri has loaded the Board in the hopes that he will maintain control after the MSP takeover, allying himself with Bill and some "True Blues" to do his bidding, all the while cash-grabbing from some Yanks; or,

2. We have a lame-duck Bill surrounded by temporary appointees place-filling until the real MSP finishes the deal and exerts their influence.

I hope to God #2 is the reality.

Supposition, but soap-opera stuff is fun to speculate about.

This whole saga is a fucking train wreck. Everton is a bit of a circus at the moment, pitch a tent and sell tickets.

Bad times happen. Transition requires patience. But, man, this transition and acquisition of cash is a mess. We need to get through this as fast as possible, go straight cliche and "regroup", and get back to winning ways and fiscal security super duper fast.

Captain Obvious in despair…

But, after the '48 hours' lie and given Moshiri's attempt to retain control, I'm unfortunately thinking we may end up with Option 1.

With Dumb and Dumber running the show, I really fear for the foreseeable future.

Moshiri has speced-up the Board by replacing Barrett-Baxendale, Ingles and Sharp with better-qualified people in Chong and Spellman. He has at last taken a position on the Board himself. The keeping on of Kenwright with his full support calls for a revaluation of their relationship.

Kenwright has enjoyed Moshiri's continuous support since he took over Everton. The upgrade of Ingles's understudy shows confidence in the financial management of the club. It is hard not to draw the conclusion that Ingles is a scapegoat for mismanagement of finances and breaches of Profit and Sustainability rules, and an attempt to appease the independent commission.

Kenwright will almost certainly come under continuous pressure from Fans, being clearly identified as a source of Everton's problems. Moshiri's another source, but is not as clearly defined, he will be targeted for pressure also. It may be that Kenwright is there to deflect blame from Moshiri.

Everton have had that many transition periods and projects that have not altered the slide, it is hard not to be sceptical, not helped by Mishiri telling us anything to get off the hook in the past. He is clearly determined to maintain control and the MSP Directors appointment has not been triggered by their loans being converted into equity. MSP are to provide a loan to fund the stadium development, that has been attempted to be sourced for some time.

Has Moshiri pushed the problem down the line, by not confronting the crisis at Everton? There is the immediate and urgent problem of not being able to field a Premier League team against Fulham in the season opener. Dyche had escaped to a festival either because of the need to relieve frustration or because he is not expecting immediate movement. Another immediate problem is Usmanov's promise of Ancelotti's bonus, which Everton are refusing to pay.

A new chapter has begun at Everton, hopefully it is not a continuation of previous Chapters. Barrett-Baxendale's, Sharp's, and Ingles's severance packages will make interesting reading. They seem satisfied with them. It was mooted as far back as April in a Moshiri-inspired leak that board changes were a possibility.

That he allows the posturing fool to continue to pretend to be the Chairman of this once-great club when Kenwright is manifestly responsible for its decline, is a sign of the contempt he has for the Everton supporters.

What next? Re-sign Rooney as player-coach, Bring Duncan back from exile to assist him? Appoint David Moyes as Director of Football? — anything is possible. Watch this space.

''Everton sell Jordan Pickford to Man Utd with an hour to spare, bringing in club legend Bobby Mimms as his replacement.''

I'm with the many of No Surprise Here! However, I'm emotionally detached...

Interesting time ahead, as always.

But I expect another relegation battle, one I think we will not survive.

As the club travels from 'poorly run' via 'laughing stock' to 'Total Shit Show' (calling at all stations in between), under-qualified 'Yes-Men' directors were appointed, who, surprisingly, don't help much.

These under-qualified tossers are then eventually duly thrown under the bus – and their presumably even more under-qualified deputies appointed (Colin Chong gets a pass for now).

Yet Stan and Ollie are still fiddling (chose any alleged meaning you like there – I couldn't possibly comment) while Everton burns.

Why am I not surprised?

The pre-season friendly against Sporting will be my last until clown Kenwright is gone.

If we don’t take decisive action now we will simply be left with more photos of relegation battles adorning our once great institution for many years to come.

Maybe Kenwright has decided to split his theatre business. Comedy for the South East and Tragedy for the North West?

I remember going to Birmingham one Monday night and the atmosphere was absolutely electric, then going back 18 months later before the clocks had gone back and getting an instant feeling that the fans had no fight left, and I just knew the other blues would get relegated. It's why I use them as an example.

I'm personally not going inside Goodison again whilst Bill Kenwright remains the chairman of Everton, unless he's still here for the last ever match at Goodison, because I wouldn't let the bastard deprive me of this.

Clubs who suspect they will be in a relegation battle next year must be jumping for joy as we have made staying up easier for them! Embarrassing by the most badly run club in the Premier League and possibly the Football League.

He's waiting around long enough that Moshiri will be forced to name a stand after him at the new stadium. Namely the 'Turd that won't flush stand!' (Thanks for that one, Peter. ;))

I have a feeling he is made of the right stuff and will get a place on the new board. Just need a few more like him now… and of course Bill's replacement.

Then do the complete opposite.

What price Bill buys out the major shareholder for half of what he was paid for it? This certainly makes for some great conspiracy theories which only time will tell if the full truth ever comes out. Perhaps Dr France can tell us if there is anything similar in those volumes for which he gave up Dixie's medal.

Yes, we had a civil war, executed a King on Whitehall and very briefly, for about a decade, England was technically a republic until we reinstated the Monarch and everyone was friends again.

A bit like you lot getting annoyed and throwing tea into Boston Harbour. Having a spat, you installing a former British Army officer as your first President, us marching on Washington to burn down the White House in 1812. Then we all became friends again!

I've visited a few of the Civil War sites. Gettysburg is the most impressive and most significant. Very close to the balance and had it gone the other way, we'd have had two nations on what is now the continental USA. The CSA and the USA. Akin to an Everton relegation scrap; close to the knuckle.

The UK and Europe has historically carved itself apart through conflict and civil war. Probably the most recent was the former Yugoslavia in the '90s, which I had the misfortune to witness first hand. Very sad.

Back to Everton. The club had an opportunity to appease and attempt to mend the damage done by the previous regime, but has opted for an existing "interim" regime. With the glaringly obvious still present. However temporary, talk about antagonism.

Weeks before the season starts and we dither and continue to put plasters on the cuts. The story of the Dutch boy who put his finger in the leaking dyke springs to mind.

All reactionary and papering over the cracks. I can only hope we are awaiting the investment to be confirmed, then they take grip, influence and we rid this club of ours of the remnants of those who have failed.

Alan Myers put a piece up that featured on Sky Sports News.

It does give me hope that this is, indeed, temporary. It has to be as he remains well connected and well informed.

McNulty commented on the BBC yesterday. The nationals are onto it.

They may have stayed away since January but, in this day and age of social media and 24/7 news, they can't ignore the sentiment swelling amongst an increasing majority of the support base. The one constant that keeps this club and the team going has truly been taken for granted for too long.

We will be there, as we always are. But those who don't belong are not welcome at our club and our stadium, old and new. If you do choose, then come and sit or stand amongst us, just as you did as a young supporter. I doubt it very much.

Despite all of the explanations, I am still confused why Moshiri has kept Kenwright, even if it is temporary. Just go, Bill. We can't start the season with him still in place. It will be a distraction when all we want to do is move on and support the team. For the sake of yourself, the club, and the supporters, just go.

We need a new chapter. As with any change, there is uncertainty and risk. But this surely outweighs the trauma, risk, cliff edges and staring down the abyss we have endured in recent seasons. Notwithstanding the steady decline, fall from grace and status since the late 90s?

Elton John plays his last gig tonight at Glastonbury. I hope he sings that anthem that will resonate amongst most of us. It does in the Winslow. Sing along to it.

Nuke proof cockroach.

In the next month, you will be seeing players recruited
that you will not be happy with or never heard of, but
that is the situation Everton FC are in.

By the way, someone put up "the club haven't won anything for 25 years" – neither have 90% of clubs in all the leagues.
The Premier League changed football, whether that was for the better is anyone's guess.

1938-39 League Title to 1962-63 was 24 years and only solved by the richest man in football throwing money at the problem. We actually went from 1933 to 1984 – 51 years without winning the FA Cup and only 1 lost final in the interim.

Since the Premier League started – Jack Walker's millions in 1995, lucky Leicester in 2016, and them lot in 2019 are the 3 in 31 when Man Utd, Man City, Arsenal or Chelsea did not win the league.

Why not us? 4 people: Ferguson, Wenger, Abramovich and Sheik Mansour.

We won the FA Cup in 1966.

They will be licking their lips at the prospect of getting fat fees for their wasters courtesy of our ace negotiator. The news will be especially welcome at Old Trafford and Spurs where Levy has already booked a table at the Savoy.

He was a very shrewd businessman and wouldn't throw money about. This, I believe, is a commonly held misconception that he just poured money into the club.

Sorry to disappoint but, like many others, you read stuff that simply isn't there. It seems, like other blusterers, your affliction with confirmation bias is massively deep-rooted. I simply have not professed to be an expert on the English Civil War.

I admit to knowing a lot more than most on the matter simply because I have a fascination with British military history. The Napoleonic Wars, The Crimea, The American War of Independence and the colonisation of parts of Africa all fall under the same umbrella – but I don't profess to knowing more than professors who specialise in the study of such.

However, let us not lose sight of the essential point at hand. Uncontrolled insurrection may begin with the best of intentions – the idea of a change of board leading us to the land of milk and honey is appealing. But it doesn't usually work that way, as I have exampled; in fact, the usual result is disaster for many years.

So, to avoid further descent into the abyss, it is undenieably better to avoid a leadership vacuum.

I might write a letter, on behalf of the silent but sane members here, congratulating Moshiri on his foresight.

Should I wish Bill Kenwright good fortune in this difficult transition or is the consensus empty shell cases within a mysterious package more representative of the ToffeeWeb Illuminati?

Moshiri asking Bill to stay on because of his "experience" is like begging Boris Johnson to stay on as Prime Minister because he might have done the job really fucking badly, but at least he's done the job.

I don't know if John Moores was the richest man in football but I believe he might have been the only man, at the time, to give his club interest-free loans. I'm not sure if he donated any money to the club, but the interest-free loans obviously benefitted Everton FC.

Dear Farhad, finally I have something to congratulate you for doing. I know that by keeping on Bill Kenwright, you will be alienating a lot of the fan base, but don't worry, mate, because the silent sane people are behind this clever thought-out move.

Yes, asking Bill to stay on would be madness. The analogy I'd draw though is not with Bojo, as if that's not bad enough, but with one Liz Truss.

Also, shouldn't there be a ‘t' at the end of ‘now' in the article title? That would at least be comforting.

Abu Dhabi own Man City, Saudi Arabia own Newcastle Utd, Chelsea have rich owners. We cannot compete with them.

They are worth trillions and we are skint. MSP are not rich enough to change that – although they may manage the club better.

For my part, accept my apologies. You stated that we are witnessing the end of us being a big club. I was suggesting that we have been witnessing that for many a long season.

I can't compete with your 65... I'm a newcomer at 62! 😃

Hole in one there, Tone, saved me considerable time. I would only add "Got any sheikhs up your sleeve, Mosh baby?"

Whoever "released" the info, and there's no prize for guessing who it just had to be, continues to take real Evertonians for fools, and treat them like shit.

When I read it, I actually laughed – it's that pathetic!

Brian, it's why it's probably better when no news comes out of the club.

I have experienced good and poor times supporting this club home and away. Unfortunately, I am no longer able to attend matches. However, in all those long years, I have never experienced such a negative and vitriolic reaction, however warranted, to events surrounding the club.

I can only hope that the Chairman can see the light and resign. This will allow Evertonians to resume what they do best – support the club, its manager and its players.

It's a tad daft if not inaccurate to compare Everton and us fans with seismic geo-political transformations with global impacts.

That might be like analysing Bootle's own Back Street Betty's thus far rusty and little-noticed singing career with reference to say Beyonce.

They are in fact worlds apart and absolutely no basis for comparison. The chairman of any football club is in all likelihood a more practical and attainable target than say a near 900-year-old French royal dynasty or 304-year-old Russian royal dynasty with all the implications of what might follow. You're wrong to include England's “Civil War” as that never was an “uncontrolled insurrection” or some sort of “rising' or “revolution” of the masses.

Speaking about ‘mericans and chucking tea in harbours, there were tons of Chicago Cubs fans even on the short hop from Limehouse to London Bridge. I see they're at the porn king's stadium today and tomorrow. Seeing ‘mercians with baseball caps on back to front and shades perched on said caps reminded me of how much I miss those United States.

Like many, I'd love to see Barry put a copy of his letter up on here, to show us how he can part the Red Sea and lead us into the chosen land.

I'm a little unread on this “confirmation” thing Barry, but it does seem to me that there is rather more substantiated fact on the “Bill has not been very good” side of things than the “Bill has in fact been very good” opposite shore, where so much more seems to be postulated on the basis of claims to knowing what someone did or might have done.

That is your case in a nutshell, Barry; my sense of what I don't know is better than your sense of what you don't know. You actually do not make a strong case at all for any aspect of Kenwright's tenure and you are most definitely not the “sane” alternative in the face of a great deal of fact that it is foolishness or just plain bias to ignore.

The season hasn't started yet and the moaning has started already.

Funny how everyone goes bar him, and he is/was the main root of the problems for the last 34 years or so? If it wasn't so serious and sad for the fans, and the club, it would be laughable.

“The report from Mark Douglas says: “I understand that Kenwright had gone as far as writing a resignation letter, only for Moshiri to ask him to reconsider. The Everton majority shareholder then spent four days trying to persuade him to stay on in the role as chairman.

“The thinking – according to those aware of the conversations – is that in another difficult summer Moshiri did not want to lose what he believes are the valuable deal-making skills of Kenwright, who is an experienced transfer market operator.

“With the club almost certain to have to sell once again in this close season to fund the major surgery required on the squad, there will be a premium attached to driving a hard bargain. The £60m fee raised for Richarlison last summer came after Kenwright's personal intervention in talks with Daniel Levy.”

Source: Bill Kenwright writes Everton resignation letter amid four-day Farhad Moshiri plea over transfer plans

So Moshiri begged Barnacle Bill to stay on as he has valuable deal-making skills? And made a personal intervention with Levy to raise £60m.

Wow!

Here's me thinking he was just a Chairman and didn't do anything else. Where's all the clueless morons on here that thought this? You should be absolutely ashamed of yourselves, what you've allowed to happen to this football club. Shameful.

Sorry I misunderstood, but I don't think we were finished till the last 7 years or so.

Why do you feel the need to end what was an entirely legitimate and informative post by referring to "clueless morons" who do not think the same as you?

I think that the number of posters on here who think that Kenwright "was just a Chairman and didn't do anything else" might be counted on the fingers of one hand, possibly two, but probably one.

You seem to bask, hide, get mouthy in the majority opinion Nick. Can you please explain to me exactly how posters on here are to blame for where we find ourselves today?

If all you can come up with is the well-worn "they don't protest do they, it's that, innit" riff, well you're hardly front-line megaphone holding Nicky, are you?

You remind me of long lost but not forgotten Jimmy Sorheim, the bloodthirsty crazed Norwegian blue who typed "revolution" and "storm the directors box" day-in-and-day-out from his safe perch in Trondheim or Oslo.

So, Nick, give me another reason why posters on here are to blame other than your bland regurgitation of "burn the witch, innit".

The incoming investors are focussed on the former given how they seem to be structuring their deal, as is our new 'interim' CEO. And so, I suspect, is a certain Uzbeki lurking in the shadows.

Meanwhile, who better than Bill Kenwright to sell our best players and find another Dele-style gem of a deal...???

I disagree with almost everything you say bar this:

"𝒀𝒐𝒖 𝒂𝒄𝒕𝒖𝒂𝒍𝒍𝒚 𝒅𝒐 𝒏𝒐𝒕 𝒎𝒂𝒌𝒆 𝒂 𝒔𝒕𝒓𝒐𝒏𝒈 𝒄𝒂𝒔𝒆 𝒂𝒕 𝒂𝒍𝒍 𝒇𝒐𝒓 𝒂𝒏𝒚 𝒂𝒔𝒑𝒆𝒄𝒕 𝒐𝒇 𝑲𝒆𝒏𝒘𝒓𝒊𝒈𝒉𝒕'𝒔 𝒕𝒆𝒏𝒖𝒓𝒆."

I'm on record as blaming Kenwright and Moyes for the unwritten contract of mediocrity with fans that was always likely to end in demise as others improved.

Why would you think I should be making a case for Kenwright's tenure with that view? Odd.

What I will say about Kenwright is we never looked into the abyss as we do today under his sole control. So you have to ask what changed?

It's a puzzle, isn't it?

Is there a shortage of salt?

Fair question at the end there also. I don't think that Kenwright is in any shape or form in "sole control"; it seems, if Nick Page's information is correct, that he had to be presided upon to stay on as chair.

How could I have forgotten that wonderful day when my mother was scared my dad was going to have a heart attack when Trebilcock made it 2-2.

Going to take me years to live down the shame of that memory fail.

But to make us realise there is always someone worse,
10 February 1899 or today? Which is closer to those media darlings' Big 6, Tottenham Hotspur, last title win? 🤣

Nick seems to be buying the 'Mosh begged him' line but many other versions are available. How about 4 days of negotiation because Kenwright going puts Moshiri on the hook for buying his shares?

Gives Kenwright leverage to stay put in the interim and, the real worry, perhaps the longer term if Moshiri's money has dried up. Just as believable IMO and, according to Paul the Esk, the buyout obligation came from somebody close to the original SPA.

Who knows? Not me. The bigger worry is what happens after the interim period? Maybe he gets an honorary title, like Phillip Carter, and turns up to the new stadium at Bramley-Moore Dock, smiling and waving.

Bill is in control and he told Moshiri in no uncertain terms that he's not leaving, so they came up with this stupid story. That's my take on it anyway.

Another thought that was going through my head was that it is so clear and obvious the way football is heading anyway and we have lost our club to these two pricks. We are meaningless to them and they probably laugh at our loyalty. They have ripped the heart out of Everton.

Maybe it's time to plan for the future with a supporter-owned protest club, Supporters Trust, or a buyout for majority shareholding so we have something to fall back on once it all implodes.

No need to label fellow Evertonians as "clueless morons'. If that was your intent. Maybe taken out of context? If so, I stand corrected.

We agree, we disagree. We agree to disagree. I get shouted at daily by my son, youngest brother and a friend I talk to regularly. You know who you are, Brian!!

We all have one thing in common.

I hope the 'moron' jibe was directed elsewhere and not at our loyal supporters, who yes, have different views, but the same belief and passion.

Incredible if true (Kenwright, Elstone, Ross content)

The powers that be will do what they want – revenue from fans is inconsequential.

As is our opinion – you need money in the pot to piss in it.

Read what Barry Hesketh posted from Alan Myers and take a breath, have a drink, ride a bike, whatever.

It appears that 12 years have passed and the only thing to have changed is, errrrrrr..... nowt!

Thank you. You are a gentlemen.

I wish that were true.

We may have sailed the waters of mediocrity for many years but presently we are on the verge of sinking without trace. The change has been monumental.

That really made me chuckle.

And how did Robert Wagner get involved with these mercenaries?

I can't get my head around anybody having to beg Kenwright to stay on.

Kenwright wrote the press release.

Thanks for that link. It confirms the dysfunctionality of the club under Chairman Mao (sorry… 'Bill' – as he likes to be called).

It shows the contempt for supporters who dare to question what is going on.

The whole club permeates with Kenwright acolytes and Moshiri is a bigger fool than them all.

Then again, he'd have probably wormed his way out.

Barry R, you come across as a sensible man who thinks everything out, but sometimes you do have to consider where the end game started, imho, mate.

Perhaps that seems more appropriate.

It's a better place.

I need somebody to hold…

Kenwright slept on briefly with the fishes, but it was only a picture and he definitely wasn't in any of those baskets that fed the 5,000.

He is a man that is only interested in himself, and he doesn't give a fuck how much carnage he creates.

He will be sorry one day though because Evertonians have got nothing on those scouse mums he so enthusiastically told everyone about whilst he was in his spiritual home.

The universe was 10 billion years old before the Earth was formed and will stop expanding 17 billion years after the Earth is swallowed up by the sun.

We're only here for that 9 billion year interim. And it is our gravest misfortune that we have had to share the last 0.0000000028% of this interim with Kenwright at the wheel. Feels longer, I know.

If it's any consolation, I can't see him being there more than another 0.0000000003%. Which is very soon indeed, cosmically speaking.

(A) Is it because you love Everton Football Club and you want to protect it from the bastard who you sold the club to…?

Or is it:

(B) Because you are a closet Liverpudlian who has kidded most of the people most of the time and your mission to destroy Everton is nearly complete?

The answer, my friend, is blowing in the wind, but on a hot summer's day in May, when you couldn't or should I say, wouldn't attend, is enough for most genuine Evertonians to tell you that they don't need a weatherman to know that you are an absolute fucking jinx! 🤮

28 years and still counting. Thanks for those good times, you dirty closet rednose, William – get on your uncle Cyril's handlebars – Kenwright.

More like Kenwright wouldn't back down from his chairmanship clause in the infamous takeover contract. Rumours he wanted £7M to walk away. That was too much for Moshiri and he said “No, you carry on then, take the flak, so be it”.

This 48-hour business, then nothing, then Kenwright is kept on after the other three board members are disposed of. I'm sorry, there's no way I'm taking the official line. The words, ‘interim' and ‘transitional' are a very easy and sly way to appease criticism. Notice there is no communication on these periods.

I for one would be interested to hear from anyone that can tell me anything that he has done that has been good for the greater good of the club.

Let me know…

I was feeling mildly upbeat for a while on the West Coast of Ireland but you couldn't even let me have that. BTW, Andy Crooks is in this neck of the woods but we haven't managed to meet up yet.

L4 born lucky... that's what that postcode stands for!

It depends what you call the "end game"? If it's a deviation from ambition and challenging for trophies to exist in a stupor at the top level, that lies at the door of the Kenwright & Moyes combo.

If regular relegation scraps, annual managerial changes, a failed DoF policy, potential points deductions, horrendous transfer business, and financial penury resultant of an ill-timed stadium build is the end game, that is a whole new caper.

And at the risk of upsetting disciples of the "It's all on Kenwright" cult, the idea he has worked Moshiri and Usmanov as some kind of Svengali creating the above is simply absurd.

When will the Earth be swallowed up by the Sun? Do I need to start panicking?

In about 9 billion years – less the few million that have already gone apparently. So, it may be a bit touch and go but I reckon you will probably be okay.

Might said might, Barry R. It ‘might' only be words, pal, but if you took the 'A' away from how you told us all recently, how you currently feel towards Everton, then it might explain a lot of your posts, mate.

Apathetic? Or just a stupid ‘pathetic' individual who is trying to wind people up? I honestly don't know, but sometimes your views concerning Everton FC could do with adding even just a little bit more knowledge or understanding, Barry, or maybe you're just too clever for most of us? (Something that would genuinely explain a lot!)

Before you answer in your wisdomatic way, I just hope you realize I have just created a new word for you, Barry! Use it wisely, mate, because sinking without trace is simply not an option for most Evertonians, even if the quiet sane ones might see things differently.

When you might write that letter to Farhad Moshiri, tell him to fuck off from me, Barry, and also tell him to take the bastard who has tied him in knots and give him to one of Usmanov's physicians for a Christmas present.

The end game is simple: exist to compete, or just simply exist. And here's me genuinely thinking you were a clever fella, Barry.

Billions? Wow, that's a relief, I thought you said ‘Millions'!

"The end game is simple: exist to compete, or just simply exist."

Am I missing something or have you just proffered 2 end games?

Which was kind of my point except one happened under Kenwright whereas both seem to be vanishing under Mosh. Do you not see this basic truth, Tony?

Why is it absurd? It is only absurd if you assume Moshiri and Usmanov are undupeable and wouldn't partner up with someone who is apparently good (a world-class influencer) at convincing people he is Mr EFC.

I've yet to meet anyone who is infallible but I've met a fair few highly rated individuals who turned out to be huge bluffers who fooled people you wouldn't expect to be easily misled. Doesn't the whole confirmation bias / Dunning-Kruger / heuristics field have a bit that says very intelligent people can have enormous blind-spots precisely because they've become accustomed to being right ‘all' of the time?

Usmanov and Moshiri never really ‘earned' their fortunes. Usmanov was just one of a bunch of ruthless opportunists who was in the right place at the right time when the wealth of a nation was shared out amongst those lucky few; Moshiri was just the useful financial fixer who made Usmanov's money ‘respectable'.

To cut and run now would probably mean they make losses on what they have invested, so is it really impossible that, to stay involved at EFC until they can maximise their pay out, they have to keep sweet a guy who knows some things they wouldn't want spread around?

Isn't the Sherlock Holmes saying “When you have eliminated everything else, whatever is left, no matter how improbable, must be the answer.” I can only think of 2 reasons why Moshiri would need to keep Kenwright on as Chairman.

Only one option matches up neatly with how things were, on the face of it, set up between them and how things are currently unfolding.

They genuinely see us as that, don't they, not as true supporters and decent people but a baying mob out to hang Kenwright who, according to Jordan, is a decent bloke despite the fact he has near single-handedly driven us through the killing floor.

Do you really think it was Kenwright's idea to go down the DOF route after all those years of not having one?

What about the incessant changing of managers – do you think he was promoting such nonsense after only having 3 managers during his entire tenure?

Do you honestly think he cajoled Moshiri and Usmanov into appointing Benitez?

Maybe I'm living in a parallel universe…

Moshiri has a lot to answer for, the spineless cunt; however, he needs someone to protect him from the flak from the fans when things go south.

Supporting this club should come with a health warning.

So is it any surprise at all that Jordan and White, who share the same show, all kowtow to Moshiri and his entourage?

All on Kenwright? I'm not sure that anyone is saying that. The point is that he has been the ever consistent presence at board level since 1989.

A period we declined steadily bar the odd spike, from not long being League Champions to almost being relegated 4 times in that period until now.

His influence is clear to see, even for those, like me, who don't have inside access.

We need a long due fresh start and real change. It's a risk, but so is any change. It just can't be or get any worse than what we've endured. We need optimism, but that has to start at the top. Not more of the same, which there will be an element of if Kenwright remains.

He simply can't remain. Having been part of a board that chastised its own supporters (the final straw of many), how does anyone think he can walk back in and take his seat? He has made his bed.

I think the interim appointments, with the exception of him remaining, are okay for now and I assume things will change once the investors come in and really shake things up. Or is that just hope? Well, hopefully it is coming soon and we start the season with a totally fresh outlook and leadership.

I can't do TalkSport. It's not an Everton thing, we are probably just topical right now. They are just wind-up merchants who seek to antagonise to get phone-ins from people they have irritated. They do it on purpose. They know nothing about Everton and our supporters.

The owner is of course to blame, but won't go until he receives a commercially acceptable offer for the club.

Nothing prevents the immediate departure of the board who have been responsible for huge debts, successive relegation battles, a financial irregularities charge, and alienation of the fans.

They should all have left at this point. This situation will not be resolved until Kenwright is gone, and his departure is as inevitable, so don't delay it a second longer.

I understand completely what you are saying but all things are just shades of grey. It wasn't good under Kenwright before Moshiri, it's certainly been a different level of incompetence since.

It's not a case of all being well before Moshiri because it wasn't – we were broke. Exactly why is the point. Kenwright got into bed with the wrong people, he found the wrong investor in Moshiri but, in truth, he had little option.

He not only made bad calls in his day as major shareholder, he tried to deceive the fans and was found out time and time again. That hasn't changed.

In Moshiri, he found his paycheck and a fool. Whether or not Usmanov was the real driving force is conjecture, as is who was responsible for exactly what or which decisions in the last 7 years.

The fact remains we were badly run before Moshiri and badly run after he came on board. We were on our way to hell in a handcart before he came on board; once here, he put an engine on the handcart and threw away the steering.

We may have a new train, a new engine driver, but the destination is the same, just heading there faster. The fat controller has been left behind carrying off the loot...

The Mirror are reporting our transfer budget is zero. That's about £50 million more than I anticipated.

His experience cannot be doubted but what is most questionable is his ability and the quality of these dealings in both player transfers and with those interested in purchasing the club, from the viewpoint of the best interests of the club alone.

Seeing as we're stuck with them "for an interim period", I think it's worth seeing how they perform. Colin Chong has efficiently overseen the building of our new stadium. The two new directors? Well, let's see what they contribute.

Unfortunately, it's true that Kenwright has a load of experience in negotiating, but I think he's had a) a free hand during his time as Chairman, before Moshiri took over; and b) I think Moshiri has been led a merry dance by him since coming to the club.

In other words, I think Kenwright is mainly responsible for running the club into the ground.

I think (hope!) that this board are preparing the way for a new permanent board once the MSP deal is finalised.

Whether we've got any money to spend is a matter that whoever becomes the "permanent" Board members, is not likely to change; but who knows?

Anyway, how this man is going to have the face to come to a match, I'm waiting to see. I'm just hoping the other Directors and the CEO (we've had CEOs leave after a few weeks in the past, if I remember correctly!) but we need a Board. Kenwright has vast experience but my view is he's been in it for himself first, the club a long way behind second. So I'm hoping that the men around him have him under control.

We need this board to act in a professional manner so that no further calamity drives us further into the mire. Just do a professional job until MSP have come on board. And keep Kenwright in a straitjacket!

Steady the tiller until the investors come in and influence change.

Bill can focus on the Old Palace theatre he bought.

By the start of next season, he is gone. Maybe some of this interim board remain, but the investors will want their own people in place and will want to influence, if not call the shots.

The performance of Colin Chong will not have gone unnoticed by Dan Meis and has now been rewarded by Farhad Moshiri. He is about to be introduced to MSP a global operator whose people I am sure will be running the rule over him.

This a huge opportunity for our “interim” CEO. I am tipping he will seize it and, amidst all the current confusion and anxiety, that is one thing I find quite reassuring because he has a proven track record in the building and construction game. Not an industry for the faint-hearted.

If they keep Kenwright from thinking it's back to "I'm in Charge", then I think that will be a good start in our recovery.

His retention means there is a continuing chasm between the suits and the supporters. The discontent is a boiling pressurised well of swirling magma, waiting for the inevitable fissures to appear.

The club needs unity or relegation becomes a much bigger threat than it needs to be, along with the existential threat it carries. It's beyond belief that Mr Moshiri cannot see that and risks everything on this one man.

If he loves Everton, and is a true supporter, Kenwright should walk away now and let the club come together. He needs to put club unity before personal financial gain and his own hurt ego.

Some of us who are borderline Everton insane sometimes think that decisions are made to specifically trying to run the football side of the club into liquidation.

Like selling players who can score goals and not signing a striker given multiple opportunities to do so. This catastrophic failure, nine times out of ten, would have seen a club relegated.

Now Kenwright's retention which is going to cause disruption and disunity in spades, is going to affect players, manager, staff and support. Another decision that will unnecessarily have us in the jaws of relegation.

I know all that is not true , but the way this club is run leaves me dumbfounded.

I think everyone can see that Moshiri has come in and made things a whole lot worse, but I find it incredibly difficult to believe that Moshiri genuinely wants Bill Kenwright to remain at Everton.

I honestly believe that there has got to have been some kind of agreement in place which is allowing Bill Kenwright to still remain at Everton but I obviously hope I'm wrong and the next few weeks might just bring about the real change that Brent talks about in his post @283.

You call it a sensible move, Barry, but when I listened to an older fella yesterday saying this move just signals a complete lack of respect towards the Everton fanbase, I agreed with him 100%, especially because I don't believe that Brent's theory will play out.

The end game is 28 years without a trophy. Absolute mediocrity and something that will soon be 29 years. This has mostly been overseen by the biggest curse in Everton's very long history.

There has been a tendency at Everton to tell the fans anything to get them out the door. The present Board could be here for a while…

Worse still, whilst Moshiri hired and fired many managers and the allowed the club to buy badly in terms of the playing staff, Kenwright as Chairman has proved that he weilds little to no control over Moshiri. He has stood back and allowed chaos to reign and is a chump. Paid handsomely for achieving what?

I could have done what Kenwright has done and sat back and kept my mouth shut. Truth is he really doesn't care. It's not his money that's been spunked on dross players and the wrong managers. He doesn't care. No loss to him.

Everton are rock bottom in the Premier League but he cares not. That's why he needs to get out of the club

Let’s hope MSP have imposed a serious timeline and not 48 hours of Fergie time.

If Bill is deciding who to sell and who to buy, what is the job of Brands and Thelwell?
Or do we blame him for everything including the obnoxious guy sitting next me during the match with Southampton in 2007?

Its anybody's guess what our team will look like when we kick off against Fulham but I've every confidence that Dyche will at least keep us in the division.

Its all up in the air, we will have to wait and see how it all pans out.

Lets hope its more under control than it looks like from the outside.

Yes we need change but this may be the right path in the short term as we face many challenges. My thought is you put us in this mess Mr Kenwright as chairman, get us out of it!

Remember staying in the league is our number one priority. Better days will come but we must come through the storm first. This is no quick fix.

It like having a prison with no Warden leaving the middle man to do as they please with no coordination, control or direction.

Each board member is responsible for a particular department, and it is the people in each department that carry out the work required to achieve whatever particular goals that have been set.

When a decision has to be made that needs the boards approval, the department head presents their request and the board either sanctions or denies that request. A fairly routine way of getting things done you would think, but I feel that the Chairman and the Owner are far too fond of micro-managing too many things and far too often, whereby the various departments may well question their own roles and the role of each department head.

That is the culture that will more often than not lead to failure rather than success and it's the culture that has seemed to engulf Everton for many a year.

It needs a more hands off approach rather than a single person or duo, getting involved in every area of the club.

It's really gone pear-shaped since Moshiri became the owner, It's been down to a few poor managers but mainly it has been caused by buying the wrong players. Now who you blame for that is up to you, but the truth is we really don't know.

There have been a few extremely well-paid people employed to find and sign the right players who have performed very poorly indeed.

I want to see Kenwright do the right thing and leave, like the rest of you, but you can't put the blame solely on him.

For once, I think the owner has played Bill at his own game, so Bill will have to go and face the charges. I think Bill's ego is so big, he has not even thought for once someone is throwing Bill under the bus.

I really hope that is the only reason.

You only have to look at the emails that were highlighted recently that Bill operates a culture of deceit and division which left to the local guys means they are often at loggerheads with each other.

And as for Black Bill being an expert at negotiating transfer deals – that alone highlights how clueless Moshiri is.

It's not about the owners being present. Let's face it moshiri knows nothing about the game.

It's about delegation. Choosing the right people to do the jobs that their experience and expertise give them the clout to say this is what should be done.
As an owner or chairman their jobs are just to facilitate what the people they have employed need to succeed in their jobs.

The Ceo, DOF, manager & academy director should be left to do what they are hired for not be told by the owner and chairman what to do or why hire them !

It's this meddling that's got us here.
Get a top notch CEO. Pay them Gabamins or gomes' wages and let them run the club !

Kenwright is our version of this.

Fair comment. I belive, because of the stadium investment, Moshiri has deflected a lot of criticism on to Kenwright. A clue to why he's being kept on, in my opinion.

Bill has a lot to answer for but, as Raymond @316 puts it, it's not all at Bill's door. As a previous poster stated, we were never at this perilous position when Kenwright was in sole control.

The new investment and board structure with Moshiri being able to basically overule anything the board would like to do is the root cause.

You can appoint who you want to the board but, if they haven't got the balls to stand up to the owner and tell him the home truths and when he's making bad decisions, then the board are insignificant.

This is where Kenwright has messed up. He was meant to be the voice of reason, the experienced football man, the negotiator, the man to tell Moshiri where he's going wrong.

Bill's failed. Failed to reign in Moshiri, failed to tell him when he's doing the wrong things, failed to negotiate for transfers, wages, managers and DOFs.

I can give Moshiri the benefit of the doubt, but Kenwright and Barrrett-Baxendale should've seen all this coming. The massive waste of money, the continued hiring and firing of mangers and DOFs, the P&S issues, the absolute contempt for fans – all are just unforgivable.

Moshiri has this last chance to bring people in, experienced people, people with track records of success.

You can throw as much money at anything, build 10 stadiums but, if we are fighting relegation with a team that's shite year on year, no one cares if you spent £10 billion.

It's a football club – if you don't get the football right, all the rest is meaningless.

Bill was in a meeting with Levy to thrash out a deal for Dele Alli, enough said.

That would have been my view that some type of agreement existed. But it appears to be the case that Moshiri values Kenwright's input and that has been the case from the start.

Kenwright is Chairman because Moshiri says he is a good Chairman and that he is able at running Everton. It is hard to fathom given the repeat evidence that that is not the case. But Moshiri has been consistent in his support, even giving reasons now for his support, so he is not in agreement on interpreting the evidence.

Barrett-Baxendale, Ingles and Sharp have all taken the blame and are gone. The MSP money is a loan and, even if it is converted into shares, is not a takeover.

Moshiri is in Control and Kenwright is in the same position of power. Spellman is known by both Moshiri and Kenwright. The other promotions are just upgrades from the same regime.

The only difference is an increase in expertise at board level. On the football front, little has changed. Very much dependent on Dyche and Thewell and the limit of the support they are provided with.

The squad is in decline and needs urgent action. The transfer policy will be the same: sell first to realise value, look for bargains and loans.

All is dependent on Dyche's ability and getting a full football season to guarantee safety.

He's done a great job of killing the Club, and looks like he's let Moshiri carry on whilst he watched – Nero, fiddle, burn and Rome come to mind. 🤷😡

There's some dumbies around but some of the potty-brains I read on here beggar total belief. They've watched their (supposed) football club be turned into a laughing stock, a makeweight and a total non-entity since the last FA Cup win in 1995 but it's all okay cos, you know this halfwit conman actor and self-proclaimed “world's biggest blue” saved us all (OMG, the drama).

From what exactly? He supposedly spent years 24/7 looking for investment and then found someone stupid enough to give him money and pissed it all up the wall.

>nd if you still believe that's to do with transfer prices, think again, dumbies – it's all to do with costs and assets in the Profit and Loss statement. He signs off on everything.

I'm sick to death of reading the same shite over and over again. Like many others on here. In fact most packed it in (fair play) cos these people just wore them down with their total and utter intransigence.

Kenwright needs to go. Everyone associated with Kenwright needs to go. The club cannot move forward until it's happened.

Please just process this very simple solution, and together – as one – Everton Football Club can rebuild.

He treated the club like his plaything when he first took over, with reckless spending that has hamstrung us since. Agreed that Kenwright should have been advising not to spend £45M on Sigurdsson; £24M on Schneiderlin etc, but if he is a Dictator and an impatient one, then any advice may count for little. Supposedly, Iwobi was a €34M 'gift' to whoever was manager at the time… 🤦

You could say then that Kenwright managed to find the wrong billionaire, but then you look over at Bramley-Moore Dock and you think maybe not. Then again, the new stadium could have also happened with a different investor.

I believe Moshiri has learned lessons along the way, but the past reckless spending is killing us on the field at the moment. I do feel, however, that the stadium will be a game-changer in terms of attracting investment and players, and that a bit of stability on the field for the next couple of seasons will lead to a brighter future.

Everything he's done and said has been with smoke and mirrors – he is a bad actor, as proved in Coronation Street and an episode of The Liver Birds playing the part of what he is – a red shite.

How anyone now can like, trust or believe him must be of the same ilk, no other explanation. He searched 24/7 for a money-mad mug and found a bigger twit than himself and the Club and fans are suffering for it. Who knows what's next? 🤷

Don't wish it away
Don't look at it like it's forever
Between you and me, I could honestly say
That things can only get better

Guess that's why they call Us The Blues!

If it is indeed true that we are unable to make any purchases either because of P&S rules or not having the money, would you all have a problem with the board and CEO et al announcing that is the case?

Obviously there is a history of the club not being entirely transparent with the financial position of the club. I seem to recall a large amount of expenses grouped into a vague name circa the Moyes era, obviously the jibes re: "where's the Arteta money" and this P&S issue.

I guess what I'm asking is I think we understand that the club is in a poor state but would your attitude change if the club laid all the problems on the table? Of course I would hope those culpable would be held to account but in the sense of admitting there's a problem, would we be closer to solving it?

"the absolute contempt for fans"

You imply that this is because of Moshiri but it has been the epitome of Chairman Bill's reign.

"As a previous poster stated, we were never at this perilous position when Kenwright was in sole control."

Rewriting history a bit there, aren't you!

Staying in the Premier League maintains and enhances that value. Something that Kenwright has done for years, enriching himself on the assets of the club. Something that Moshiri will take to a different level with Kenwright's help.

What if Kenwright sold Everton to Moshiri's using that pitch?

In my post, It said that:

"Kenwright and Barrrett-Baxendale should've seen all this coming. The massive waste of money, the continued hiring and firing of mangers and DOFs, the P&S issues, the absolute contempt for fans – all are just unforgivable."

How is that implying it's Moshiri?

I believe a lot of our problems are down to Moshiri and can't all be put at Kenwright's door. I'm no supporter of Kenwright, his time has long gone, but Moshiri is to blame also.

"This perilous position"

And I don't believe we were ever sanctioned for breaking P&S Rules or had the threat of points deduction or transfer embargo under Kenwright's sole ownership, or were forced to sell players by the league. Sponsorship lost due to his dodgy dealings with the Russians.

So I am not exactly rewriting history, am I, mate?

We were never in this position before Moshiri.

Sorry but you cannot compare the two as simply as that. Kenwright had no money, mortgaged everything, sold players to pay the bank, to stay solvent. Our sponsorships deals were a joke, you couldn't even buy a shirt anywhere, we sold the best player we have had in a generation so we could pay debt.

We sold our soul because the man who owned us had neither the money nor business acumen to profit from the boom of the Premier League. Never mind the lies about votes, stadiums or investors.

In comes Moshiri. A man with significant money, allegedly backed by an even bigger sponsor, Russian or not, no one complained where the money came from until the Ukraine War. Financial mismanagement, no adherence to rules, no check on spending, incompetent financial management.

Two different situations, one caused by a lack of money, the other by too much, both handled with incompetence.

So you are right, David, we are not in the same situation as before, different circumstances completely. We are now accused of breaching financial rules to show limited losses; before, we never had the money to spend for that to happen, but both periods are underlined by the incompetence of management and the structure of ownership that allowed both to happen.

Hope that makes sense.

We leapt from the proverbial frying pan under Blue Bill into the fire under Moshiri and squandered billions whilst doing so.

I was not comparing I was just stating that Moshiri is not free of blame. The predicament we find ourselves in is Bill's & Moshiri's mess.

Which is a bigger mess than we found ourselves under Bill alone in my opinion.

Yes different circumstances absolutely. Bigger risks are involved now. With bigger risks you have either bigger rewards or bigger dangers. We are not reaping the rewards.

As the saying goes " More money, more problems."

Some people think that Kenwright's departure will solve everything. It won't if Moshiri keeps making the same bad decisions & meddling in football matters. If he doesn't appoint the right people, it won't make the difference we all want.

It's only a small part of what needs to happen. But a massive step in the right direction.

Kenwright could and should have stepped down when Moshiri took over but he obviously had already sweet-talked his way to run the club himself and went on to waste millions on crap players and dishing out stupid contracts to them and managers alike.

Moshiri stepped in at some point when he realized Kenwright was wasting his money and went on to prove he was also clueless at running a football club and wasted his own money. Inexplicably for an accountant that he was shit at his job too.

Moshiri gave us a chance by throwing money at the club and we can't fault him for that. He got the new stadium going and right now that's the only thing that has prevented outright rebellion against him.

Hopefully this mess is sorted out soon as the new board builds their own foundations and shove the old ones into the bin then open up us to a complete takeover from Moshiri and get him out.

Song for Kenwright to the tune of War (What is it good for?)

Bill…huh…yeah

What is he good for?
Absolutely nothing
Say it again and again and again

*The fact that some of those Millions landed in the new stadium at Bramley-Moore Dock is the only thing that stopped him being chased out ages ago.

How Bill survived as long as he has is one of the world's unexplained mysteries, like The Bermuda Triangle etc.

Only then, I believe, can we be rid of Kenwright. Billy the Liar is going nowhere until Usmanov's puppet loses control.

I keep making this point.

No one complained about Russian money until last year. Despite the fact that Russia invaded Georgia in 2008 and still occupies part of that country. They invaded and annexed part of the Ukraine in 2014, shot a commercial airliner down and had been waging a not-so-discreet war in the east of Ukraine since.

We all, not just Everton, not just football, continued to take the money until last year's tragic and ongoing events.

But 8 years of aggression that we were willing to turn a blind eye to. 14 years if you include Georgia.

Just as we are willing to accept Saudi money now. That's a tricky one as there are lucrative defence contracts at stake.

Our squad is weaker than it was last season and it looks like we are sleepwalking towards another relegation battle.

It would be nice to just even hear a squeak so at least we've got evidence of life!

I imagine this will change with the takeover.

So says Paul the Esk in his latest blog. We as supporters must welcome change, because whatever has occurred in the past hasn't been working, and somewhere along the line, the actual football has been lost as something that only the paying punters seem to care about.

A new Everton