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Jack Convery
1 Posted 24/08/2022 at 16:27:55
For everybody concerned, let's hope this is true. Another off the wage bill, meaning we can bring someone in.

He can meet up with Dele and chat about those good times they had at Goodison and how good the Chairman was to them in financial terms.

With Dele, we'll always have the Palace 2nd half. With Gbamin, we'll always have that Wolves first half.

John Pickles
2 Posted 24/08/2022 at 16:31:19
Everton: Buy dear, loan for peanuts to Turkey.
Tony Everan
3 Posted 24/08/2022 at 16:47:12
Just need Gomes to Fenerbahçe now for the hat-trick.
Dale Self
4 Posted 24/08/2022 at 16:47:14
Gotta move em if we can. How it is, maybe.
David Currie
5 Posted 24/08/2022 at 17:48:09
Hoping we can move him and Gomes on. Warrington and Mills are better players to have in our squad this season.
Martin Reppion
6 Posted 24/08/2022 at 17:51:09
If these are the deals, along with the money from the sale of Gordon, that free up the cash for the 2 mythical strikers and one more midfield player, then let's just hope it gets done.

Alli has in effect got no value on the books and Gbamin must have had his cost amortised to about zero by now. This means whatever they go for it won't count against us.

I just wish all this frenetic stuff had happened before the season started so we weren't playing catch up with a derby looming.

I just want to see a headline starting with 'Done Deal'.

Steve Shave
7 Posted 24/08/2022 at 17:56:35
Tony,

Not a bad shout that for Gomes to Fenerbahce. I have been his only defender on here for some time but even I gave up the ghost midway through last season, ate the peach and accepted he is never going to be who he was. A confidence player who lost the crowd and sadly any notion of mobility after the injury.

David @5, talking of Warrington, I wonder how much difference there is in him and Garner longer term. Maybe we should give the lad more minutes this season? I like the look of him.

The 5-sub rule means he and Mills will get some minutes this season, great for all involved. I was hoping we could get a decent fee for Davies this summer but now I think we will need him; maybe Frank can get a tune out of him.

Don't know what to say on Gbamin other than his sad story epitomises our cursed luck over the last years, he looked like he was going to be a baller and built for the Premier League.

He did well last season on loan in Moscow so is fitness the issue? Are the rigours of the Premier League too much for him or does he just not fancy it now, afraid to get injured again? Best shot of him.

David Hallwood
8 Posted 24/08/2022 at 18:18:39
Just shows how many turkeys we signed…
Dale Self
9 Posted 24/08/2022 at 18:21:24
With all the negative and contentious stuff that this episode has brought to the surface, that was very good, David. You and Dave Cashen have livened it up a bit.
Christy Ring
10 Posted 24/08/2022 at 18:29:33
Alli has his problems, whether it's personal or physical, so to get him off the wage bill – especially with the agreement with Spurs – is huge.

Gbamin's Everton career never took off because of injury but, after playing for the last 12 games of the season with CSKA Moscow, I thought a fresh start in pre-season would be his last chance.

Lampard knows best, but he was one of the few who put in a performance against Minnesota Utd, he hasn't got a look in since. Looking at his physique, you'd think he'd suit the Premier League sadly.

Will Mabon
11 Posted 24/08/2022 at 18:30:35
John @ 2 - and then get a good old Turkish shafting at the end of it, for any payments due.

Further irony here in that both he and Dele are/were the equal of anything we have, if only it could have worked out.

Gavin Johnson
12 Posted 24/08/2022 at 18:36:18
A move to Turkey?? So that means a loan and he returns next summer. Turkish clubs whole transfer philosophy is to have a revolving door of loans.

I'll be surprised if Besiktas come up with the £7M for Dele next summer.

Raymond Fox
13 Posted 24/08/2022 at 18:40:10
Another sad tale, I thought he had a good future here when he arrived.

We are getting rid of a fair few so I'm guessing we have some new faces already lined up. But then again!

David Currie
14 Posted 24/08/2022 at 18:43:48
Steve 7, Warrington is a good player who does the basics very well. I hope he gets minutes in the Premier League this season.
Mike Gaynes
15 Posted 24/08/2022 at 18:48:44
I wish him nothing but the best. The courage and hard work required to rehab from those horror injuries and get back on the pitch speaks for his character and dedication.

Christy #10, I too thought he looked pretty good in preseason, but Frank sees him every day, and his call is that the guy isn't good enough. We barely saw him before the injuries, so we'll never know if he was a bad buy or just a bad-luck case.

Danny O’Neill
16 Posted 24/08/2022 at 18:59:08
If this happens, then a shame we never got to see what a player he might have been.

On Warrington, I see potential. It's not just his number 6 positional play, he has a great range of passing on him.

Gavin Johnson
17 Posted 24/08/2022 at 19:01:04
I wish him all the best. It must be very taxing mentally to come back from those kind of injuries. I've heard rumours he's a bit of a beer monster so if there's any truth in that I can see why the club want shut of him.
Mike Gaynes
18 Posted 24/08/2022 at 19:02:58
Danny, yep, just watching Warrington in the pre-season and against Fleetwood made me smile. He's so poised, so assured on the ball. That crossfield pass right after he came on yesterday was professional grade, and he made it look effortless.
Pat Kelly
19 Posted 24/08/2022 at 19:18:14
McNeil will be off next.
Dale Self
20 Posted 24/08/2022 at 19:22:19
Okay, I faceplanted on supporting Gomes although the injury was a factor but I will take all of my reputational gains from that episode and bet on McNeil to make it. Frank played him out of position in my opinion.
Brian Harrison
21 Posted 24/08/2022 at 19:24:24
Well, I don't see us missing Gbamin I think he only played 6 games in 2 years, but let's not shed too many tears after all he was still being paid his mega wages.

I don't know if there is a stat to show how much we are getting from this squad in terms of wages against minutes on the field of play. Mina another on £110k per week yet spends more time on the treatment table than on the pitch.

Dele another on £100k + a week and I think he has only started one game and has hardly played more than 45 minutes in any game. Gomes and Allan hardly seen on the pitch in months.

Mind this follows the new tradition at Everton: Besic, Bolasie and Tosun – 3 more who hardly kicked a ball in the last 2 years of their contract.

Mal van Schaick
22 Posted 24/08/2022 at 19:29:31
Everton. Flops feeder club for Turkish league.
Christy Ring
23 Posted 24/08/2022 at 19:49:45
I reckon, if we bring Garner in, Allan is on the way out.

He was not in the squad last night after being on the bench on Saturday. Rumours that he has been offered to Roma after the Wijnaldum injury.

Sam Hoare
24 Posted 24/08/2022 at 20:00:10
I had such high hopes for Gbamin. He really was very good in Germany, where he had little or no history of injury. Wonder how good he might have been had he stayed fit?

The double injury was bad luck though it sounds as though he has not always behaved himself off the pitch either, which is a shame.

Bad luck rather than bad scouting this one but yet more big losses on expensive signings.

Mark Taylor
25 Posted 24/08/2022 at 20:11:16
I'm frustrated we never found out if Gbamin was actually any good.

The others we are trying to 'lose' have pretty much all answered that question and not in the affirmative.

Andy Crooks
26 Posted 24/08/2022 at 20:16:12
Christy @10, spot on.

Actually, I still cling to some faint hope that he will complete his comeback in glory. I think he is a very fine, but desperately unlucky player. Not deadwood, in my view. Not at all.

Ian Bennett
27 Posted 24/08/2022 at 20:17:43
Wow, I said we needed a clear-out - but boy are we seeing one.

Sigurdsson
Delph
Kenny
Tosun
Van der Beek
El Ghazi
Kean
Richarlison

Pending or looking like going:
Gordon
Alli
Allan
Gbamin
Gomes

Chuck in a couple like Branthwaite etc.

Robert Tressell
28 Posted 24/08/2022 at 20:43:27
If he had stayed, fit there's a good chance Silva would still be our manager.

A very good player. Terrible luck.

Denis Richardson
29 Posted 24/08/2022 at 21:12:04
Another one off. Guy was unlucky with injuries but we'll never know if he was good enough in the first place. £23M was not a small fee.

Beggars belief the amount we've spent on players the last 5 years or so and ended up with the squad we have.

Jerome Shields
30 Posted 24/08/2022 at 21:30:51
Once these players are gone, it will have to be a busy week in the transfer window.
Gavin Johnson
31 Posted 24/08/2022 at 21:38:45
Robert #28,

Yes, absolutely, we've had terrible luck with injuries but our summer 2019 midfield signings of Gbamin and Delph took it to a whole different level of bad luck.

Had they stayed fit – particularly Gbamin cos Delph was always a sicknote – I do think Silva would have kept his job, at least for that season anyway.

Dupont Koo
32 Posted 25/08/2022 at 02:13:22
Any penny saved on Gbamin going forward will be a blessing for us.

Appetite as a player ruined by injuries and spoiled by the big contract. Nothing else to see here. Let's move on.

Jim Bennings
33 Posted 25/08/2022 at 06:52:26
Get him gone.
Jerome Shields
34 Posted 25/08/2022 at 07:45:30
Gavin #12

The same could be said of Everton.

Denis #28

He had an injury-prone record before joining Everton.

Brands and Medical Services where prepared to take risks on injury-prone players, thinking they would get them for less. They where suckered every time.

Andrew Bentley
35 Posted 25/08/2022 at 10:56:25
Ian #27, it's the clear out we've been crying out for years to happen. Sadly for a lot of that list it's taken contracts to expire to happen!

What I do like about the players that we are bringing in is the mentality and leadership qualities that the likes of Tarkowski, Coady, Onana have. It's clear that, as well as talent, we are trying to change the mindset and attitude of the squad as well.

This is great to see and will take time to turn around. Seems more similar to the transfer business of Moyes where he was obsessive about character of individuals.

Bill Gienapp
36 Posted 25/08/2022 at 12:51:30
I don't feel like we ever got a particularly good look at him once he finally got healthy. Seemed like Lampard wrote him off upon arrival and his loan last season was less about getting minutes and more about just getting him out of the way.

Regardless, he clearly has no future here, so the sooner his situation is sorted, the better.

Stale Haverstadlokken
37 Posted 25/08/2022 at 13:38:23
No Turkish clubs can afford Alli's wages so rumours is that Everton will pay 50% of his wages.

I can't see any Turkish clubs waning to pay a transfer fee, so Gbamin and Gomes will probably go on loan if Turkey is the end destination. I would prefer sales for both.

Lev Vellene
38 Posted 25/08/2022 at 19:22:16
I'll always feel sorry for the players who only got long-term injuries after they joined Everton! Gbamin is one of these.

So I really hope there is some truth to this rumour, and that he can find a new club to get fully fit with. The Premier League is not at all the place to slowly work your way back to your old skill levels, I'm afraid.

Kieran Kinsella
39 Posted 25/08/2022 at 19:30:59
Lev,

We've had a few. Do you remember that Brazilian Rodrigo that Moyes signed I think on loan with a view to a permanent deal?

But he got injured pre-season, he was out for about 2 years and then had a brief stint at Southampton before disappearing. He was supposedly pretty good pre-injury.

Then we had Billic, Williamson, millions worth of talent that produced a few dozen games combined.

Lee Courtliff
40 Posted 25/08/2022 at 19:43:00
I remember that Rodrigo guy, watched him play against Birmingham in August 2002. He looked alright but we only played him a couple of times before he seemed to disappear.

I do recall Pele saying he was Brazil's best player around the time we signed him! I was only 21 back then so I believed bollocks like that and got all excited... just to be let down... again.

Steve Cotton
41 Posted 25/08/2022 at 20:04:42
Lee 40, unlike you Pele has a problem where he just can't get excited..or so the adverts say...
Mick Conalty
42 Posted 25/08/2022 at 20:38:53
"Oh No!!!" Gbamin is leaving... What are we going to do?

I know — "Let's have a party!"

Waste of bleeding space.

Brian Murray
43 Posted 25/08/2022 at 21:15:31
Steve,

Keep a stiff upper lip.

It will be alright on the night.

Si Cooper
44 Posted 25/08/2022 at 23:27:01
Not sure how he can't get a minute on the pitch for us but still be wanted by the Russians and the Turks.

I know there is a difference in quality but our midfield options have been so poor since he apparently got fit that you'd expect some game time if he was good enough for bench duty.

Would have liked to see him get at least one competitive start this season to confirm he remained completely off the pace in the Premier League.

Colin Glassar
45 Posted 25/08/2022 at 23:54:21
Lampard sees these guys in training on a daily basis so he knows who has no chance of ever making the grade.
Nick White
46 Posted 26/08/2022 at 22:13:43
I hadn’t spotted he’d left on loan. Good move for both parties.
Justin Doone
47 Posted 26/08/2022 at 22:53:15
Sadly, we will only know what has and not what could have been. I wish him well but it's a shame he's only left on loan.

I had written him off as a player we could not count on, as I had feared his top-level career could be over once he relapsed so quickly and for so long.

Hopefully he can knuckle down and still have a career, if that's what he really wants.

Oliver Molloy
48 Posted 27/08/2022 at 09:57:06
Correct me if I'm wrong, but I think we are still paying per week £70k of Dele's wages and we wi be paying £20k of Gbamin's.

Crazy.

Danny Baily
49 Posted 27/08/2022 at 10:12:17
This is great news that had completely passed me by. We'll be stronger by getting the deadwood out of training, even if it is only temporarily. Giving this lad a 5-year contact was a serious misstep.

And we get to do this all again next summer when he and Dele inevitably return.

Tony Everan
50 Posted 27/08/2022 at 12:55:54
Oliver, I could only find out this, hard to know what we are paying or if he has been prepared to take some kind of a hit to play football.

“According to the agreement, it was noted that the Ivory Coast player, who was rented free of charge from Everton, will be paid a guaranteed fee of 1 million 500 thousand Euros for the 2022-2023 football season.”

Jeff Armstrong
51 Posted 27/08/2022 at 21:16:16
Oh my, millionaires whether they play or not, this guy got lucky/unlucky the minute EFC signed him, made for life after 8 appearances, the club that keeps on giving.

Unfortunately got injured early on but made for life.

Lee Jamieson
52 Posted 29/08/2022 at 16:01:14
Is he not out of contract next summer when he returns?
Danny Baily
53 Posted 29/08/2022 at 16:10:02
I believe he'll have a year left on his contract when he returns.
James Flynn
54 Posted 29/08/2022 at 18:48:38
He has one more year after this. Same as Gomes.

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