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Everton played Serie A side AC Monza in a behind-closed-doors friendly today at Goodison Park where Dominic Calvert-Lewin came through a half's worth of action as he seeks to build fitness ahead of the new season.

The striker has been on a patient rehabilitation programme this summer, with the club's medical staff trying to give him the best possible chance of achieving consistent fitness after almost two years of frustrating set-backs.

He visited a specialist facility in Germany earlier this summer and has now played his first pre-season minutes as the Blues drew 2-2 with the Italians, with Lewis Dobbin and Neal Maupay finding the scoresheet.

Vitalii Mykolenko also played as he works his way back from his own injury problems and new arrival Arnaut Danjuma played 75 minutes but Dwight McNeil was absent as the club assess the extent of the knee injury he picked up in the friendly at Stoke.

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With the new season 11 days away, Sean Dyche is assessing his squad while work continues on trying to acquire transfer targets.

With regard to Calvert-Lewin's continual challenges, and the perennial question: Will he be ready to face Fulham? – Dyche said:

“We’ll wait and see. We’re taking it a day at a time because, as everyone knows, he’s had a tough period of it. So it’s making sure we’re not overloading him and he’s well in himself.

"He’s going well. He trained with us last week and is still crossing over between training and getting the extra fitness work he needs in.

"From what I’m told of his session [at Finch Farm on Saturday], it went well. And that was quite a heavy session.

"We’re happy with that and he seems to be in a good place, so we’re hopeful we can carry on building from that."

There has been no news of Vitalii Mykolenko's situation, while Andre Gomes has only featured for 45 minutes in one of the pre-season fixtures. While silence continues regarding the future of £23m 'asset', Jean-Phippe Gbamin, who has claimed he won't play again for Everton, despite his contractual commitment until June 2024. 

Seamus Coleman continues his rehabilitation from the knee surgery required on the injury he picked up last season.

"I am just working away in the gym, rehab, and getting it strong again," he said, "but everything is going well and everything is going to plan. I’m looking forward to getting back whenever that is."

Everton: Virginia; Higgins (75' Welch), Godfrey, Branthwaite, Mykolenko (46' Hunt); Garner, Onana; Onyango, Dobbin, Danjuma (77' Kouyate); Calvert-Lewin (46' Maupay).
Subs: Crellin, Astley, Okoronkwo. 

 

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Ian Horan
1 Posted 31/07/2023 at 12:29:46
Anybody feel Calvert-Lewin wants out after his fashion partner in crime Tom Davies didn't renew his contract?

The club are a joke, a goal-scoring centre-forward is a must. The defensive stability Coady and more Mina provided when it mattered is long gone so it is clear we have to score a lot of goals to have a chance to stay up.

Any injury to Pickford and we lose about 10 points off our total, I just feel Moshiri is fiddling whilst all around him burns!!!

Dan Nulty
2 Posted 31/07/2023 at 12:45:34
It very much feels to me like the approach is to get Calvert-Lewin as fit as possible for the new season and not play him until the Premier League games.

This is in the hope that he can contribute to the 60 minutes in each of the first 4 or 5 games while we try and do some wheeling and dealing at the end of the window.

Martin Farrington
3 Posted 31/07/2023 at 13:25:47
Its a great shame about drug tests. We could stir some "magic formula" into Gomes's pre-match Bovril to have him zipping around the pitch.
I pray Calvert-Lewin is gonna come through and be as fit as a fiddle for the rest of his career. Also that others step up and impress.

As for transfers in, I think our goose has been well and truly cooked there. The disgraceful reaction by all press to what has clearly been peaceful protests, labelling the club toxic.
Man Utd and Spurs? Wheres the press headlines of vitriol and hatred at them?

The fabricated stories of headlocks, assaults and threats leading to the ex bored (sic) and owner no longer being "safe" if attending have clearly done what they were intended to do. Isolate us.

The two main protagonists of whom we now rely on bringing in new players.
Does that make them hypocrites ?
What confidence does any player have in anything they say ?
Both caught in a lie.
Everton cannot be toxic and unsafe and a family club with great community ties and family spirit at the same time.

Add in 'ffp' and no cash to spend, agents are clearly swooning elsewhere for their 30 pieces.

If anyone does come in it will be by a minor miracle and nothing to do with Dumb and Dumber.

Scott Montgomery
5 Posted 31/07/2023 at 13:48:53
We're currently 9th in the table, lets take that and move on to 24/25 season
Jonathan Oppenheimer
7 Posted 31/07/2023 at 14:01:22
Anyone got any word on the extent of McNeil’s injury?
Mick Davies
8 Posted 31/07/2023 at 14:03:29
If Alan Ball was 'perpetual motion', then DCL must be 'perennial inaction'. Is this Youssef Chermiti his replacement I wonder?
Duncan McDine
9 Posted 31/07/2023 at 14:30:19
Ian (1),

'Fiddling' is allegedly what Moshiri is good at, but I don't think its the type of fiddling that you meant!

Mark Andersson
10 Posted 31/07/2023 at 14:35:54
Even a fit Calvert won't make any difference.
Dale Self
11 Posted 31/07/2023 at 14:42:02
Of course not. They wont play him today.
Alan J Thompson
12 Posted 31/07/2023 at 15:48:54
I can't vouch for it's accuracy but I'm sure I read somewhere that Nero actually let Rome burn because it was mostly wooden buildings and he wanted to rebuild something better. Funny that, eh?
Gary Sedgwick
13 Posted 01/08/2023 at 00:47:07
While silence continues regarding the future of £23m 'asset', Jean-Phippe Gbamin, who has claimed he won't play again for Everton, despite his contractual commitment until June 2024.

This stuff really irks me. I am a layman regarding legal issues but if what is written above is actual fact, then the club should take both him and his agent to court for breach of contract.

If the club were successful hopefully his wages will be off the accounts and his agent can be found negligent in his sale of "goods" and the club recoups the money he garnered through the deal.

SMH.

Larry O'Hara
14 Posted 01/08/2023 at 00:53:18
Gary (13),

That is a good point, the legal action would be worth it.

Kieran Kinsella
15 Posted 01/08/2023 at 01:51:39
Gary

I agree with your point but you may want to rephrase the sale of “goods” part mate. I’m sure you meant no ill intent but when you talk about human beings as “goods” that can easily be misinterpreted mate.

Greg Nelli
16 Posted 01/08/2023 at 02:32:27
Absolutely the club should start proceedings against Gbamin. I just don't understand how it wouldn't be in everyones interest for him to facilitate a move by renegotiating a new deal with a prospective club in return for a transfer. I mean I'm assuming the wages is a stumbling block for a sale.

Is it just Everton he doesn't want to play for or is it football in general?

Kieran Kinsella
17 Posted 01/08/2023 at 03:32:20
Greg,

But we are making assumptions based on comments he made a few months ago. No-one has said he didn't show up for training.

Maybe he is injured. Maybe the club told him to stay away and find a new club. We are jumping the gun here demanding legal action when we don't actually know what's going on.

Bill Watson
18 Posted 01/08/2023 at 04:35:54
Gary #13,

If a player publicly states he won't play for a club again, surely that club has a right to cancel his contract, without any need to go to court.

To be fair to Gbamin, there doesn't seem to be any evidence that he's actually said this.

Tony Abrahams
19 Posted 01/08/2023 at 10:04:47
If Gbamin has said that he won't be playing for Everton again, then surely the most logical thing to think is that he is probably just repeating what he has already been told by the club?

I'm certain Calvert-Lewin will get at least 30 minutes today, playing behind closed doors away from the public eye?

Paul Ferry
20 Posted 01/08/2023 at 12:27:09
What a hilarious comment, Ian Horan: "Anybody feel Calvert-Lewin wants out after his fashion partner in crime Tom Davies didn't renew his contract?"

I'm still chuckling an hour or so after I first read it. I just love the Calvert-Lewin clothes, hair, appearance jokes. They might well be the funniest things on ToffeeWeb.

Paul Hewitt
21 Posted 01/08/2023 at 16:04:55
Game ended 2-2. Dobbin and Maupay scored.

Yes, Maupay!

Andrew Keatley
23 Posted 01/08/2023 at 16:07:18
Lots to take in here.

Minutes for Calvert-Lewin and Mykolenko. Good.

Goals for Dobbin and Maupay. Good.

McNeil's injury against Stoke was to his knee. Not good.

Mike Hayes
24 Posted 01/08/2023 at 16:30:13
Knowing Everton, if they took Gbamin to court and they won, they'd pay his court fees, pay his contract up, and pay his wages at another club until he retired. 🤡🤡
Paul Washington
25 Posted 01/08/2023 at 17:09:29
We don't know if Gbamin has refused to play but apparently he's not been spotted or reported injured.

If he has refused to train, then surely the club could suspend him and not pay his wages?

Alex Gray
26 Posted 01/08/2023 at 17:22:35
One step closer to being fit for Fulham which is excellent news. Also means Danjuma can play on the wing whilst McNeil recovers.

It essentially gives us another week to bring in players.

Brian Hennessy
27 Posted 01/08/2023 at 17:33:23
Just a heads up to the editors, Michael and Lyndon. I think there is a typo in this article. It says Maupay scored a goal. That obviously can't be right, can it?
Gary Brown
28 Posted 01/08/2023 at 17:59:02
Some interesting comments on Gbamin.

As always our club is soft as shite. Forget anything to do with “wont play again” gate, 2 years ago he drove his car pissed and caused a crash.

Don't see that as any different than Adrian Mutu having a line or two. It's a criminal act, he should have been sacked on spot and the same compensation line that Chelsea used on Mutu pursued in courts.

He's shown us zero loyalty or commitment, why does “People's Club” equal letting him lose us £25m-£30m we don't have?

Gary Brown
29 Posted 01/08/2023 at 18:01:27
PS nice to hear Mykolenko back too. If McNeil is going to be out (please god not longer than a few weeks).

I think Young in front of Mykolenko is the answer to left-hand side. Danjuma or Doucoure behind Calvert-Lewin or new boy in the middle.

Bill Watson
30 Posted 01/08/2023 at 18:09:29
Martin # 3

There is a drug workaround. Gomes could become an asthmatic, like most of the RS squad.

Christy Ring
31 Posted 01/08/2023 at 18:10:48
Delighted to see Calvert-Lewin get 45 minutes today, good sign.

Regarding Gbamin refusing to play, in my opinion, that's utter nonsense, for the simple reason that he has 12 months left on his contract, and he won't be paid if he doesn't play.

Do you honestly think he'd want to lose £50k+ a week?

Dale Self
32 Posted 01/08/2023 at 18:28:12
Undefeated More yay.
Pat Kelly
33 Posted 01/08/2023 at 18:36:54
11 days to go and we're still discussing Calvert-Lewin's and Coleman's fitness.

Nothing much has changed. Coleman is essentially finished. Calvert-Lewin is a game away from another spell out of action. And we're still allegedly chasing strikers.

Paul Tran
34 Posted 01/08/2023 at 18:38:55
If Gbamin's contract specifically regards a drink driving offence as gross misconduct, I think he could be sacked. That's a big if.

The club may have thought they'd get a fee for him at the time. Or maybe they're just soft, clueless, etc.

Mike Gaynes
35 Posted 01/08/2023 at 18:44:44
Supposedly Olympique Lyonnais are in for Gbamin, but he has no control over whether we sell him or not.

And Christy is right, there's no way he can decline to train or play if Dyche wants him to, otherwise he's in breach of contract.

Christy Ring
36 Posted 01/08/2023 at 19:38:46
Pat#33 Really love your optimism
Andy Crooks
37 Posted 01/08/2023 at 19:45:11
Good early entry @ 1 for season 's most cretinous post. Too early though. No doubt the same shameless candidates who proudly started their daily relegation predictions last November will be back.
We have a weak squad, no one doubts it, so here's hoping the usual gang will not be on come November spouting on every thread that they warned the rest of us. I reckon these will be poular:
Never wanted Dyche.
Big Sam never got a fair chance.
I said all along we needed a striker
Has DCL broken a fingernail?
You might be content with mediocrity but I'm not.
The fans are to blame.
Shambles of a club.. Can no one else see it.

And on it will go. How about allowing freedom of speech but limiting the number of times one can express the same opinion to twentyfive thousand.


Gary Brown
38 Posted 01/08/2023 at 19:47:25
Paul, I’ve never seen a players contract but seen plenty of employment and business engagement ones. Never, ever, have I seen ONE that would specifically have to list every possible CRiME that would cause a breach or termination. I’d imagine brand damage and reputation are covered strongly on club side, and Mutu is the test case to show it’s possible.
Dan Nulty
39 Posted 01/08/2023 at 19:51:26
Lots of positive noises about Dobbin coming out of the club. Hopefully he can be the one that kicks on unlike many of his predecessors!
Sam Hoare
40 Posted 01/08/2023 at 19:52:57
Dobbin scored and assisted Maupay too. Seems like he’s been the main bright spark of pre-season and may have forced his way into managers plans.

I think he would have been ear marked for a loan but perhaps we’ll see him replace Gray now as an option off the bench.

Gary Brown
41 Posted 01/08/2023 at 19:52:59
Pat - “Coleman is essentially finished” is an interesting comment for sure. Certainly two things today suggested you may not be far wrong;

1) he’s stated recovery “going well but no idea when back on training pitch”’ (I recall similar words from Townsend last year during summer too).

2) Experimenting with Hoggins and Welch in todays behind closed doors. I’m assuming Welch went in back 3 and Garner got moved to RB.

Reckon it’s another position we’ll neglect and pay twice for. Garner is a CM and the more he is played at RB the worse it is for him and us.

Jay Harris
42 Posted 01/08/2023 at 19:55:52
Gbamin is easy. Just fine him a weeks wages for every week he fails to make himself available.
Tony Everan
43 Posted 01/08/2023 at 19:58:43
Was it Monza or the Mons A team from Bootle?

Godfrey and Branthwaite both played full games so Dyche is definitely focusing on their capabilities for the season. Onana played a full 90, Danjuma 75. Sounds like they are being very careful not to rush Calvert-Lewin, hopefully he comes out of this run out in good shape. He will still be a couple of weeks behind the rest and will need more minutes, the Fulham game is likely to come too early for him to be a starter.

Oliver Molloy
44 Posted 01/08/2023 at 20:11:11
Mike,
I think you will find that these days players can / could decline to take part in training for many reasons.
Ray Carvin
45 Posted 01/08/2023 at 20:19:35
Pretty sure that only 2 weeks pay can be stopped as a punitive measure,as per PFA agreement.
Barry Hesketh
46 Posted 01/08/2023 at 20:24:20
Having watched the Stoke friendly, I thought I noticed a bit of a partnership twixt Maupay and Dobbin, and depending who's fit and available and who we might sign before the opening league game, I wouldn't be averse to seeing those two start the match, with the one proviso being that one of them learns to shoot.
Peter Mills
47 Posted 01/08/2023 at 20:28:53
Occasionally (usually when a Peroni or two has been taken) I will have a philosophical conversation with my son around the old conundrum “If a tree falls in a deserted forest, does it make a sound?”.

Tonight he asked me “If Maupay scores in a deserted stadium, does it really happen?”.

Tony Abrahams
48 Posted 01/08/2023 at 20:30:40
I only watched Dobbin once last season, but he’s very quick even when running with the ball at his feet, and he definitely looked like he’s got a very good chance of becoming a real player.
David West
49 Posted 01/08/2023 at 20:46:19
Can we have some unequivocal evidence the Neal Maupay actually scored ??

Maybe play 5 more games behind closed doors, tell everyone he's scoring hat tricks and we might get 1 3rd of our money back on him 🤔

Will Mabon
50 Posted 01/08/2023 at 20:56:33
“If a tree falls in a deserted forest, does it make a sound?”.

Peter, it never makes a sound, only vibration. In the brains of creatures that can detect this, the vibration is presented internally as "sound". The vibrations are there whether witnessed or not.

Maupay – I can't help with that one...

Peter Mills
51 Posted 01/08/2023 at 21:12:23
Dammit, Will, the tree was the easy bit!
Denis Richardson
53 Posted 01/08/2023 at 21:35:03
Hugely positive that Calvert-Lewin is now taking part in games. I wasn't expecting this for another month given the radio silence. Doubt he'll start in 10 days time but at least he's weeks away rather than months.

Got to be super careful not to rush him back too soon. Even just have him play every other game or only 60 minutes at a time for the first half of the season. Anything to help him stay injury-free.

Also good that Mykolenko's getting a run out. Some green shoots – just a shame re McNeil.

Pat Kelly
55 Posted 01/08/2023 at 21:46:58
Christy. #36, thanks Christy. I’m trying to ignore reality but it keeps getting in the way.
Barry Hesketh
57 Posted 01/08/2023 at 21:56:12
Tony @56,

Maupay's spent lots more time in the box than that elusive cat, but the cat is way ahead on chances taken – at least so far, anyway.

Mike Price
59 Posted 01/08/2023 at 22:08:06
Calvert-Lewin had a short purple patch; apart from that he's bang average – even when fit.

If he hits another half-decent run of form, I'd sell asap.

Nigel Munford
62 Posted 01/08/2023 at 22:39:12
Brent, I’d replace “would” with “should”!!
Brent Stephens
63 Posted 01/08/2023 at 22:44:58
Nigel, even better!
Brian Wilkinson
64 Posted 01/08/2023 at 22:47:07
Brent, maybe that’s where he hid the Arteta money, so yes only right he gets the blame for trying to retrieve it.
Neil Copeland
65 Posted 01/08/2023 at 22:49:10
Brent and Nigel, I would go a bit further and say “is”.
Brent Stephens
66 Posted 01/08/2023 at 22:54:23
Yes, Brian, "Where's the Arteta money, Bill?" - and "where's that tree?"
Christy Ring
67 Posted 01/08/2023 at 22:55:38
Does no one see the positives with Calvert-Lewin?

I can't understand all the negativity, unbelievable!

Brian Wilkinson
68 Posted 01/08/2023 at 22:56:34
It is funny you should mention Bungalow Bill, Brent.

It was only yesterday I was watching the film 12 Angry Men and thought to myself, there is a certain poster who could give Henry Fonda a run for his money on here in defending the accused, even with nailed-on proof.

Lyndon sat as the judge, listening to all the hard facts, while every bit of evidence and facts, are swatted away by the one lone juror defending the guy.

Tom Bowers
69 Posted 01/08/2023 at 23:05:54
A fully fit Calvert-Lewin would be great when it happens but hopefully Dyche doesn't rush him given that the options are poor at the moment. I don't want to see him start and then get replaced after 20 minutes by Maupay.

If they can make some money on the Demarai Gray deal, it would help towards getting someone like Che Adams.

Would be nice to see Calvert-Lewin get another 45 minutes against Sporting and have no ill-effects.

Mike Price
70 Posted 01/08/2023 at 23:16:02
Gray is one of our few talented players and I wish him well if he goes. We’ll be sorry we sold him because he will show just how good he is at his next club.
Chris Hockenhull
71 Posted 01/08/2023 at 23:16:49
1: Answer to daftest “question” of the month already — NO!

What bollocks evidence does one have?? You couldn't pay people to act so stupid with the endless love of posting stupid posts on this site. Beggars belief.

Kieran Kinsella
72 Posted 01/08/2023 at 23:21:11
I figured we'd see Calvert-Lewin once I heard about this hastily arranged match. Decent quality opponent too for a last-ditch fitness boost scenario.

In the circumstances, it seems Dyche and Thelwell are working well. Thelwell is the first DOF we've had who's offloaded players for cash versus paying their wages to play elsewhere until their contracts expire.

Dave Evans
73 Posted 01/08/2023 at 23:37:58
Reality is non-local, guys. The tree isn't there until observed. The winners of the 2022 Nobel Prize for Physics proved it.

It's a bit like how VAR operates.

Annika Herbert
75 Posted 02/08/2023 at 04:08:35
Mike @ 70.

So you consider Calvert-Lewin bang average and Gray one of our few talented players?

That being the case, why isn't Gray showing us how good he can be on a regular basis? Or do you believe a new club will instantly uncork the hidden magic?

Apart from the odd game, I would say Gray is bang average.

Christine Foster
76 Posted 02/08/2023 at 05:01:55
We have a number of players who, in recent times, have failed to consistently perform at their potential peak or at the level they have done so before.

Injury, loss of form, confidence, mental issues, or just falling out of love with the club, football or themselves – all can be pointed too. But the fact is, in many cases, we took a punt on players who, for one reason or another, had failed at other clubs or were past their best.

Gray, Rondon, Maupay, Dele Alli, Gana, Coady, Mina, James, Allan… the list is long but a familiar one. When one adds to it our own set of ageing or below-par players, the list is lengthy.

We took too many risks on too many players, paying too much for them, then too much to them on too long contracts. Most ending in loan exits or free. Bad management calls at almost every level, short-term thinking with long-term costs. It was never going to make sense.

The two players spoken of in this article, Calvert-Lewin and Gray, are probably not in that category, but injury to one and inconsistency in the other have resulted in a sense of unease.

We know what happened without a replacement for Calvert-Lewin; it's nearly cost us our Premier League status.
With Gray, his light flickers but there was a reason we only paid what we did for him. The lack of overall consistency and ability.

Overall, it was the fact he has only a few tools in his locker, cut inside and shoot being his best. If that's negated by a good full-back, then he is lost. So in short, he doesn't offer enough to warrant his place, but he was the best we had.

Same for Maupay, certainly hasn't warranted his place but was the only one we had (okay, Simms, Cannon neither of whom where or are yet to be deemed up to Premier League standard either).

Calvert-Lewin is a good target man, Ancelotti had him working solely in the penalty area, first touch, shoot. He can hold up play, lay off, defend. But he has been prone to injury; we need at least a back-up or replacement in case.

Jerome Shields
77 Posted 02/08/2023 at 06:50:11
Christine #77,

Rather than the players, I see the problem as being a club with a dated culture run by a club management from a long past dated era that does not exist in the present Premier League. To a certain extent, Evertonians are also yearning for this era of a saviour centre-forward, an Alan Ball type midfielder, and a solid centre-back.

A lot of the players purchased were of the style of this past era with the entitlement to match the club culture reinforced by off-pitch facilities that gave the impression of professionalism that did not exist, though the wages paid and titles seemed to spell otherwise.

What Dyche has done is try to bring the playing team into the present era with suitable player goals and organisation. Existing players have been improved as a result, but Dyche had to make do with the inadequacies they have always had.

Players have gone and more will go if possible who don't fit the required criteria that Dyche requires for his modern system. Attempts are presently being made to bring in players to cover basics and it appears in the remaining month that upgrades on existing players will be attempted with part-exchange deals.

This summer's transfer policy does reflect the reality of a post-relegated team, which is not surprising given the club management that still exists and has brought Everton here. I do think it has been a successful transfer window and pre-season so far.

In the coming season, the team will be more competitive in the Premier League with application, cohesiveness and organisation. This is what Dyche has been about from the day he started, something that Everton has needed for years.

Bob Parrington
78 Posted 02/08/2023 at 07:39:00
Continuing the discussion re sound or no sound. Does playing in an empty stadium allow us to assume it was a vacuum? In which case there would be no sound… perhaps???

Is it possible to equate Maupay with goals without having a 'no' in the sentence?

Mark Taylor
79 Posted 02/08/2023 at 08:30:09
I always knew we'd end up being philosophical about Maupay's inability to score.
Alex Gray
80 Posted 02/08/2023 at 08:53:16
Whilst we've recruited poorly in the striker position, it's no surprise Calvert-Lewin had his best season when James Rodriguez was playing for us.

If you look beyond his injury record and his work rate (I actually thought he worked hard when on the pitch), James was a huge creator for us that season. Alongside that, with Richarlison, we had someone who runs off the ball and took defenders away from Dom.

A major flaw in our attacking play is that we rarely attack as a team. The only game we did was against Brighton and ironically Dom played the Richarlison role, taking defenders away, allowing Doucouré to arrive in the box with space.

Christopher Timmins
81 Posted 02/08/2023 at 08:55:56
Let's hope this is the start of a run of games for Dominic and an end to his long running injury problems.
Brent Stephens
82 Posted 02/08/2023 at 09:17:27
Fingers crossed for Calvert-Lewin, in combination with A N Other in a "2 up front". Lay-offs to Dobbin who can then supply the crosses?

Forget trees, as long as Calvert-Lewin isn't a plank this season.

Will Mabon
83 Posted 02/08/2023 at 10:38:00
The important question is, can Maupay continue to vibrate?
Terry Farrell
84 Posted 02/08/2023 at 12:35:41
When fit, Dom is a hell of a player and a joy to watch. Hard as nails and quick. 'Bang average' is a ridiculous comment.
Christine Foster
86 Posted 02/08/2023 at 14:20:52
Jerome, quite correct, the management plan behind purchase of players didn't exist once the tally of manager and DoF began to mount. We bought players with no plan, or at least we ended up with players of failed managers and desperate ownership.

What's happening now, the cull, a plan, had to happen. The players involved either do not fit the plan, or are just not good enough. Some are better than others but even the few good ones may have to make way as a means to an end. Pragmatism? Possibly refreshing, but inevitable.

Sean Dyche may save this club from relegation, but I doubt once we have security his tenure will not be guaranteed unless new ownership sees a better plan.

Christine Foster
87 Posted 02/08/2023 at 14:26:04
Will #83,

Surely the question is will anyone break the stunned silence of disbelief should Maupay ever score again? It would certainly double his transfer value.

Will Mabon
88 Posted 02/08/2023 at 14:59:15
Christine :-)
Peter Mills
89 Posted 02/08/2023 at 16:19:29
Christine #87, such an event would probably be greeted by the sound of one hand clapping.
Jerome Shields
90 Posted 02/08/2023 at 16:39:56
Christine #86,

You have explained it better than I have and your conclusion is 100% correct.

Barry Hesketh
91 Posted 02/08/2023 at 16:51:48
Forgive me for reading a link to the Daily Star, about the Glazers possibly putting the sale of Man Utd on hold, but I was wondering what Artificial Intelligence would make of some of the posts we get on ToffeeWeb.

I think Michael and Lyndon should carry out an experiment to see if AI can repeat some of the stuff on here. Also AI might explode when simultaneously trying to make sense of fallen trees and the removal of deadwood.

This article was crafted with the help of AI tools, which speed up Dailystar.co.uk ' s editorial research. A content editor reviewed this content before it was published. You can report any errors.

Billy Shears
92 Posted 02/08/2023 at 17:08:32
We simply can't rely on him, we need a couple of strikers in now.
Tony Everan
95 Posted 02/08/2023 at 20:49:43
Dobbin's goal vs Monza has been posted up, well worth a watch, impressive ball control and finish. The lad is staking his claim this preseason and it's great to see.

Jay Harris
96 Posted 02/08/2023 at 21:01:00
Tony, very Demarai Grayish, great goal.
Tony Abrahams
97 Posted 02/08/2023 at 21:31:12
Just watched that goal five times and it got better every single time Tony. If you've got pace then use it, especially if you can also beat players for fun. I saw something in Lewis Dobbin, after watching him play last season because he's quick and direct and has got the skill to beat defenders very easily.

His decision-making in the final third has definitely got to improve, but defenders hate playing against players who have got both skill and pace, and I think Dobbin has definitely got both of these major attributes.

Who gave the assist? I love those little clever five yard passes that take defenders out of the game. Let the ball do the work! 💙

Mike Hayes
98 Posted 02/08/2023 at 21:36:48
Dyche and Thelwell send him out on loan, they needs shooting.

Dobbin is the type of player that will get the fans on the edge of their seats… but don't berate him for any short comings – give him time to develop. 🤷

Dale Self
99 Posted 02/08/2023 at 21:52:02
Thanks Tony 95, that was my first and only contact with Xitter. I only did it for the club and it was worth it.
David West
100 Posted 02/08/2023 at 22:59:29
Dobbin could be the perfect foil next to Calvert-Lewin… think Campbell and Jeffers, Defoe and Crouch. Dobbin has a bit of the Micheal Owen about him. A little drop of the shoulder and a turn of pace, always moving into space.

Cannon may be physically ahead of Dobbin, but Dobbin has something, a bit of the fear factor with his pace. This may be the reason Cannon is being allowed to go on loan.
Laurie Hartley
101 Posted 03/08/2023 at 07:58:55
Tony # 97 – “ Who gave the assist?”. Good question. I have another.

Who started the move with the first pass - was it Onana or Doucoure? Whoever it was they were in the box at the far post in very quick time. That is encouraging.

Tony Abrahams
102 Posted 03/08/2023 at 08:18:54
I think it looked like Onana, Laurie. After reading what Michael Keane has been saying about the work the players have been doing in pre-season, he said that the players will be a lot fitter this season than they have ever been since he has been at the club.

On the other hand, Gbamin's agent has been criticizing the club for playing him when he wasn't fit, believing this has definitely helped contribute to the player's injury problems, and also couldn't believe that the club never tried to play him in a few reserve games so he could acclimatize to England and the frenetic pace of the Premier League.

So hopefully things are changing, and Everton are slowly going to turn into a proper, clever, hard-nosed professional outfit once again, please god.

Tony Everan
103 Posted 03/08/2023 at 08:45:49
Tony, I’ve been tying to find out, I’m thinking Onana too, it’s all a bit grainy.
Jerome Shields
104 Posted 03/08/2023 at 09:26:16
Tony #102,

That is the main necessary change that Dyche is attempting to bring to the table. Everton for years have been an unfit squad of players, both physically and technically. This had been allowed to develop because those in charge owed their position to the patronage of Kenwright rather than their ability. They were never going to be held accountable for the team performance. They weren't even bothered by team performance.

To an extent that is still the case. But Dyche from the start has concentrated on getting the players organised to compete in their positions by making the right decisions and trying to get them fit enough.

But it is not just what happens at Finch Farm, it was the importing in of unfit players that other clubs had deemed a waste of space in their regime and standards of fitness, both technically and physically.

At Finch Farm, they found their spiritual home on contracts they would have never have got anywhere else. Whilst they were a hodgepodge of different styles because.of different managers, they ultimately reflected the attitude that prevailed inside Everton.

They all professed to be Evertonians and loved the club, but in truth they loved their contracts and had little interest in their football abilities that they may or may not have had.

Whilst Everton need new players in various positions, they need to be fit, both physically and technically. It would be a waste of time bringing in anyone if improvements are not made in these areas.

After Dyche has achieved that, Premier League survival should be restored. But, as has been said many times, the conundrum of the Moshiri - Kenwright relationship still raises its ugly head. To me, it seems that Kenwright has become Moshiri's essential mentor on how to survive as an owner of a Premier League club. I am not even sure if Moshiri's ownership is as it seems.

Anyway, Tony, you know all the above already.

Phil Lewis
105 Posted 03/08/2023 at 10:32:02
Alex #80,

Quite correct to point out that Calvert-Lewin's best season was when James Rodriguez was supporting him. Mentally and reaction-wise, they were on a similar level, the result was spectacular goals delivered at a regular rate.

Rodriguez could judge Calvert-Lewin's runs to perfection with quicksilver timing and precision. Nobody before him or since has provided Calvert-Lewin with the same ammunition. He's had to feed off scraps and unselfishly more often than not had to run himself into the ground, for little return, while operating as a lone wolf. Richarlison also, was the perfect foil for him in that particular scenario.

I honestly believe that if Calvert-Lewin can finally overcome his injury dilemma, then with the right service, he could be a world beater.

Unfortunately, I don't think that will be with us. I'd love to think it might be.

Brian Wilkinson
106 Posted 03/08/2023 at 10:47:03
Where is the Maupay goal? I have searched everywhere and cannot find a clip of it. After witnessing his pre-season, I want hard evidence he actually did score.

Whoever managed to get a clip of Dobbin's goal, could have a Zapruder film on their hands of the moment Maupay lashed one in. Strange that only one goal has been shown throughout various sites, someone must have a clip of his goal.

Tony Everan
107 Posted 03/08/2023 at 14:34:20
Brian, I've tracked it down. More good positive play and determination from Lewis Dobbin created the opportunity.

Will Mabon
108 Posted 03/08/2023 at 14:47:13
Tony, that link showing as doesn't exist.

Brian, the film may have passed through the lab for frame doctoring.

Jay Harris
109 Posted 03/08/2023 at 14:55:16
Thanks Tony,

Great run from Dobbin but disappointing that the midfield did not bust a gut to get up in support with only one player running way behind Maupay who made any effort.

Will Mabon
110 Posted 03/08/2023 at 15:00:55
Lucky you, Jay - still won't work for me.

I guess Twitter don't like me. I don't like it, so fair enough.

Tony Abrahams
111 Posted 03/08/2023 at 15:16:27
Maupay’s goal is all about the skill, pace and positive running shown by Lewis Dobbin.

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