Points deduction delays new Dyche deal

I think I'd hold back regardless.

Not his biggest fan, and I don't think he takes us anywhere as a football club.

Agreed, Dean. He's a decent manager for a club whose only aim is mid-table mediocrity (which I'd take right now).

But with a spanking new stadium on the horizon, I'd prefer a manager to take us into the promised land.

Colin, no "promised land" type manager will touch our club with a bargepole. Dyche is the right man, in fact the only man for the job.

Can you imagine Graham Potter digging us out of the hole that the "custodians" of our club have buried us in? This is it; the promised land is a million miles away.

Colin@2

To be honest Colin, it'll be over 2 years before we hopefully get our dream stadium, so I'd gladly take two more years of "Midtable Mediocrity" under Dyche, and move in playing Premier League football.

I see Dobbin playing for U21s tonight, would have played Danjuma as well, was totally off the pace when he came on against Utd. On a brighter note, Seamus not playing, hope it means he's starting against Forest instead of Young.

No promised land unless real money comes in.

The new stadium will take some financial feeding so perennial paupers we will remain, meaning unearthed genuine talent will be flogged pretty quick killing the idea of building a long-term challenging outfit stone dead.

A shirt-sleeves-rolled-up pragmatist manager is exactly what we need and fortunately we have one in Mr Dyche.

He's got 18 months left on his current deal. I wouldn't start new talks yet.

Ste 6. Very interesting. Far too contentious and potentially powerful.

Heaven forbid!

I started as a Dyche sceptic yet I'm gradually being won round.

We're all perplexed by the refusal to drop Young – who could well be a very useful sub – but Dyche has brought a degree of effective consistency to the team.

I left Selhurst Park thinking this was the first time in nearly 3 years that the team looked strong enough to avoid a relegation scrap. Some strength off the bench – at least one player (Mykolenko) has improved radically, Branthwaite and Tarkowski are strong and, while the midfield is a bit of a muddle, Dyche has found the best combination using what he has effectively.

Garner and Onana are very promising young players. We now have a fit centre-forward with cover and a promising young player. The glass is more than half-full.

On the other hand, I'm not so confident the outrageous punishment will be easily overcome without a successful appeal. No fault of Dyche's.

Mark (9),

Good post, I think a lot of us would agree with your last paragraph.

People are entitled to their opinions, but to put our position on Dyche's toes is just daft.

He's spent probably zero.
He's dealt with losing big players.
He's dealt with having zero budget.
He's dealt with the board resignations.
He's trying to deal with an unfair 10-point reduction.

All while making us a better team in my opinion. Lampard would have been crying his eyes out having to deal with all this. Did we see his face after defeats? Dyche is the man for the moment!!

He's not going to win us the league, but none of the guys who win you the league will save you from the shit we are in!!!

If he saves us this year, then fuck me, I'm getting "We have good xG" tattooed on my Bod!

Even without the 10-point deduction, we were not pulling up trees, now this guy comes into his own; this is what he will thrive on, winning against all odds, putting it to those who doubt him, proving his methods work.

Nowhere else to put this - Good luck to Jags on his retirement.

I would add another year to his contract and see where we are then.

For fuck's sake, no, what's he done to deserve a contract extension? I've never been more bored watching Everton.

I can t stand his penchant for favourites and I'm no fan of the way he surrenders possession at home. Loads of managers would come to us, look at the way Gary O'Niell has got Wolves playing.

I know Dyche has his fans but I am definitely not one of them, to be hones,t I find him an embarrassment. Pile in all you want but I can't stand the fella.

Mick @ 13.

Dyche was brought in to keep us up last season; he did that. We're probably going to need him to do the same this season.

But I definitely wouldn't have him going into next season and the new stadium. No matter what league we are in.

Oh, here we go!

We want a bright, progressive manager who plays a more attractive style of football. Yes, let's bring in Potter or whichever bright, young, ambitious Portuguese or Spanish manager is flavour of the month.

Do some supporters ever learn?

8 do think Dyche has improved the squad? I don't belive he will be here in 2 years.

I champion Kjetil Knutsen. A coach type winner. Has handled a tiny club with a total budget now after success just £13M.

Spot on, John.

18 months left on his contract. What's the rush to extend it? Potential relegation. Potential new owners. Potential administration. Why give a hostage to fortune?

If we've learned anything from Dyche, it's that you don't do substitutes till the last few minutes.

Dyche is the right manager for right now. We need someone to bring a hard working ethic, consistency, and to move the club up the table.

Until we have that as a fundamental and backbone of the team, there's no point in bringing in a free-flowing football manager as we just don't have those types of players in our squad. We saw that with previous recent managers.

And don't forget they also cost a fortune to get rid of, Anthony @19, so we can't be in the market at present for a new manager.

How many of those payoffs have contributed to the appalling financial situation we find the club in??

I'm not a Dyche fan. But at the moment he's right for us. We ain't a Champions League team and we haven't won anything for over 28 years.

As already stated in this thread, his contract isn't up for 18 months. Can't the club just leave it? He's not highly in demand, so he ain't going anywhere. I'd just like him to make substitutions before the 90th minute.

David West,

He's not going to win us the league, but none of the guys who win you the league will save you from the shit we are in!!!

Most sensible paragraph I have read on here for a long time.

We need a period of stability and, like him or not, Dyche is most likely to provide that. Do I think he is a long-term solution – absolutely not, but this managerial merry-go-round has to stop.

I am sure Seamus would love to retire without adding to his – what is it now? – 10 managers. Ridiculous!

good

Dyche probably would want to negotiate another £3 million bonus for keeping us up again.

He is what we need, not what we want...

Those are the pro’s & cons of a snobby football fan, maybe Dale?

This just shows you why we should not believe 99.9% of the shite that is written in newspapers, imo.

Moshiri wants out, the club will be sold a lot sooner rather than later, so it’s surely going to be up to the next owners to decide if they want to keep the current manager, even if I believe he his slowly winning himself into the hearts and minds of the less snobby Evertonians!!

Right on Tony, that is where I would have guided a response from Iakovos. Would I get a hardon if we played some sexy continental football? Of course. What did Ian Hunter say? “What you want I can't afford so why don't you try it my way?” (Momma's little jewel)

The worst for me is seeing a collection of individually skilled players lose their interest in doing what is needed for teamplay. This league's low end will get you for that now and we sold off just in time.

This looks at a minimum like a squad that will dig in and be selfless to get it done. That is down to Thelwell and Dyche and if they keep it stable I don't understand why they would not be given the chance to take it up a level.

Andy @ 3 & Barry @ 5; Game, Set and Match, spot on, nail head etc, etc.

There is no vacancy and IMO, not even a hint of a need for one just yet.

One Game at a Time and One Manager at a Time.

That last paragraph makes a lot of sense to me Dale, mate.

Well... some of these comments aged like dogshit.