Season 2014-15
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Would you have Fellaini back?
| 29/07/2014I would, and if he insisted on coming here as player power is in at the moment we could get him at a steal. He is still a good footballer, not just a lanky header of a player. He would play better in our team and is still young.
Emotions aside, I think it would give the players a boost. People's thoughts are naturally going to turn to how he won't suit the new style but he's a good player who can adapt and play a bit of nice togger.
One thing i would say is he must realise he's not the big Charlie he thinks he is and also not guaranteed his place. But at the right price...
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2 Posted 29/07/2014 at 16:38:34
3 Posted 29/07/2014 at 16:38:25
If your going to sign Fellaini you need to play him behind the striker and get the ball up to his chest/head and get people around in.
We have moved on.
4 Posted 29/07/2014 at 16:40:21
5 Posted 29/07/2014 at 16:41:00
6 Posted 29/07/2014 at 16:41:31
7 Posted 29/07/2014 at 16:41:09
We missed his goals and I think it is a fact we never scored from a corner last season, mainly due to a lack of physical presence.
8 Posted 29/07/2014 at 16:35:43
I know it’s rather odd to say but he was responsible for one of the best ever performances by an Everton player in the 1-0 win against United two seasons ago and looked an absolute world beater. The reality though is anything but and he’s generally too slow for the top teams. His best position is supporting the front man - might do well at Stoke or West Ham where the approach is more direct - other than that, I don’t see him playing in the Premier League again.
9 Posted 29/07/2014 at 16:43:08
We overpaid for him in the first place, and were lucky that OFM was desperate enough for a big signing that he overpaid again for him. On his day he's unplayable, but those rare occasions aside, he's an elbow-flinging player of limited value to a footballing team.
So that's a no from me, in case I need to spell it out.
10 Posted 29/07/2014 at 16:46:20
11 Posted 29/07/2014 at 16:47:05
See Ian #3 for the rest.
12 Posted 29/07/2014 at 16:42:29
We need to focus all our money on a top notch striker, and left sided attacker.
13 Posted 29/07/2014 at 16:50:49
14 Posted 29/07/2014 at 16:42:54
15 Posted 29/07/2014 at 16:49:11
Roberto clearly knows just who he wants and why and whilst I believe that he could really get the very best from Marouane, I also believe that Roberto's investment of effort will be far more productively applied with other players.
I hope that MF has learned from the "theatre of daydreams", moves on and becomes the cracking player which I wanted him to fully realise with us. But he can go do that outside of the PL.
16 Posted 29/07/2014 at 16:48:45
Behind the striker - not creative enough.
Defensive midfielder - not disciplined enough.
Box to box midfielder - pretty good but not as good as McCarthy.
He's better than anyone we have if we are one down with five or ten minutes to go.
So in total, even for 㾺 mil he'd be a luxury.
17 Posted 29/07/2014 at 16:54:53
Centrally, let's not forget we have Lundstram coming through as well, plus kids like Ledson not far behind, both good England age-group players and captains as well.
We need truly attack minded game-changers: Lukaku and Valbuena please, and Deulofeu again on a loan. We'd be ready with that, although backup keeper and backup centre-back are a concern (Besic can play CB though; I loved the way he said he could play "anywhere" the kid has confidence!).
Also talk of two younger Barca attacking players, but that would be perhaps difficult to accommodate if they had to play a certain percentage etc, but they'd be handy in Europe at least and on the bench.
18 Posted 29/07/2014 at 16:59:47
19 Posted 29/07/2014 at 17:08:02
20 Posted 29/07/2014 at 17:15:23
21 Posted 29/07/2014 at 17:17:54
22 Posted 29/07/2014 at 17:20:58
23 Posted 29/07/2014 at 17:27:16
24 Posted 29/07/2014 at 17:31:00
He would not fit into our style of play.
25 Posted 29/07/2014 at 17:34:43
26 Posted 29/07/2014 at 17:27:34
There's not a snowball in hell's chance that Martinez will want him back here, square pegs in round holes and all that.
27 Posted 29/07/2014 at 17:48:13
28 Posted 29/07/2014 at 17:13:02
29 Posted 29/07/2014 at 18:15:47
30 Posted 29/07/2014 at 18:22:49
31 Posted 29/07/2014 at 18:26:06
For those arguing that the Martinez system wont allow it, as tippy-tappy as we were last season, we were also one of foremost exponents of the long ball in the league.
32 Posted 29/07/2014 at 18:32:46
Martinez obviously rates him, and I didn't get the impression he rated Fellaini (I may be wrong). I doubt very much a bid is in the pipeline.
33 Posted 29/07/2014 at 18:33:54
35 Posted 29/07/2014 at 18:46:45
36 Posted 29/07/2014 at 18:35:01
I don't think you can have 'too many' decent players if you are within budget and they are all prepared to knuckle down and do their best for the club. If it takes up resources that are more needed elsewhere in the squad and sows disharmony then it is obviously not worth it.
"the path his club career has taken could serve us better as a warning to any of our players who begin to ask themselves whether the grass might be greener..." - surely resurrecting his career at EFC would just reinforce the object lesson.
37 Posted 29/07/2014 at 18:43:08
He was one of our best goalscoring MF players which we have sorely missed.He very rarely lost a ball and his ball control and passing was first class. Those that say he doesnt belong in the Prem need to reassess and ask why he is a constant in the Belgian team.
The Bad
His Dad is his agent and took him to MAn U on wages we can no longer afford. We couldnt very well look to buy him back from Man U for half what we stole from them.
The Ugly
His tackling is clumsy at best and he is a red card waiting to happen.
Would I have him back
Definite yes under the right circumstances as we have no other MF player who can contribute goals and unsettle defenders the way he does.
38 Posted 29/07/2014 at 19:22:42
39 Posted 29/07/2014 at 19:27:24
40 Posted 29/07/2014 at 19:26:50
Probably in therapy after last season ("Thank you Mr Fellaini, same time next week....... ....come in Mr Moyes")
To be honest, I thought he was more than useful when I first saw him play for Liege against Liverpool and his kind of agricultural nuisance value for us and his goals under OFM, I always thought worth having.
Now?
Simply can’t see where or how he’d fit in so...no, I wouldn’t have him back.
Maybe Liverpool will come in for him as he’s the only player in Europe they haven’t been linked with this summer (I predict problems at Castle Grayskull next year as Brenda tries to keep happy the 435 squad members who won’t be getting a game).
By the way, I was sent a text earlier saying Liverpool have offered Southampton’s tea lady ٦ an hour.
41 Posted 29/07/2014 at 19:54:00
42 Posted 29/07/2014 at 20:05:37
43 Posted 29/07/2014 at 20:36:21
44 Posted 29/07/2014 at 20:43:16
45 Posted 29/07/2014 at 20:47:31
46 Posted 29/07/2014 at 21:03:53
47 Posted 29/07/2014 at 21:22:12
48 Posted 29/07/2014 at 22:25:09
Footie players have these other things called legs. The over-rated liability the fuzzy haired fella had on a scale of 1-10 with ten being highest 0.2325734 ability to control a ball in motion with his per.
LetÂs just continue to celebrate the fact that we got – I still pinch myself – 㿇.5 million sponds for a half-decent player who got caught out big-style last year (being in the largest Sky spotlight of all). I whooped when he was sold.
49 Posted 29/07/2014 at 22:31:10
50 Posted 29/07/2014 at 22:30:26
51 Posted 29/07/2014 at 22:42:54
He's talented IMO, was injured much of last season, and has proven with us he can play.
I'd have him rotate with Barkley in the CAM role.
In a second if the price was right.
Only hesitation - he's cut his hair. He's like Lukaku in that regard. I'm convinced they derive their power from their hair. He'd need to grow the fro back.
52 Posted 29/07/2014 at 23:21:18
53 Posted 29/07/2014 at 23:42:57
54 Posted 29/07/2014 at 23:49:42
55 Posted 29/07/2014 at 23:53:30
56 Posted 30/07/2014 at 01:40:58
57 Posted 30/07/2014 at 01:45:30
58 Posted 30/07/2014 at 06:12:14
59 Posted 30/07/2014 at 07:12:22
It's a no for Lukaku at €30M as well!
60 Posted 30/07/2014 at 07:19:21
61 Posted 30/07/2014 at 07:22:44
62 Posted 30/07/2014 at 07:24:28
63 Posted 30/07/2014 at 08:25:49
In any event,the new Everton move the ball around the park too quickly for his style. He'll be off to ply his trade in Germany or Italy and good riddance-he'll end up like Nicolas Anelka in all probability.
64 Posted 30/07/2014 at 08:32:47
65 Posted 30/07/2014 at 09:01:14
He is a Moyes player.
We have moved on (and up).
66 Posted 30/07/2014 at 09:06:38
Barkley on a charge can do the job, but, he isn't always on his game and we do need cover for his position. Fellaini as an impact sub and cover behind the striker would be valuable to us. Its a luxury buy though...maybe he's shat on his own reputation enough moving to Utd that no-one else, bar Pulis, will touch him.
67 Posted 30/07/2014 at 09:28:41
He has also shown that he can be impossible to mark and can easily score 10 goals plus per season. How many of our players hit double figures for goals last season?
I think he could bring a lot to the team. While Utd may not want to see him back to us cheaply, 13-15m for him and 8-9m for someone like Remy would count as good business for me.
The price tag may be a concern though. Utd paid a huge fee for him a year ago. I can't see them selling him back to us for what we can afford to pay right now. We do seem to be going all out to spend 20m plus on Lukaku.
68 Posted 30/07/2014 at 09:28:41
He has also shown that he can be impossible to mark and can easily score 10 goals plus per season. How many of our players hit double figures for goals last season?
I think he could bring a lot to the team. While Utd may not want to see him back to us cheaply, 13-15m for him and 8-9m for someone like Remy would count as good business for me.
The price tag may be a concern though. Utd paid a huge fee for him a year ago. I can't see them selling him back to us for what we can afford to pay right now. We do seem to be going all out to spend 20m plus on Lukaku.
69 Posted 30/07/2014 at 09:38:32
70 Posted 30/07/2014 at 09:41:27
71 Posted 30/07/2014 at 10:19:26
72 Posted 30/07/2014 at 10:32:51
73 Posted 30/07/2014 at 10:32:51
74 Posted 30/07/2014 at 10:46:12
a Capri was my very first car, and helped make up for my inherent lack of good looks in the pulling department!
75 Posted 30/07/2014 at 11:05:24
76 Posted 30/07/2014 at 11:21:13
NO!
77 Posted 30/07/2014 at 11:22:35
I've no doubt that is a scenario we shall face when Roberto moves on to greater things.
Scenario ? More like a bloody nightmare !
78 Posted 30/07/2014 at 11:27:39
Liked him under the old regime but he no longer suits our style. He thought he was too big for us. His pudding was not proved.
IÂm sure we can get someone far better whoÂd fit in with our new style for the twelve mil heÂd now cost.
Apart from Rooney ... IÂd never go back.
79 Posted 30/07/2014 at 11:29:04
Suits OFMs "don't lose" mentality which I'm pleased to report we've disowned in double quick time.
Precisely what did he achieve at ManYoo or in the world cup?
80 Posted 30/07/2014 at 11:33:28
81 Posted 30/07/2014 at 11:38:26
1970's terminology mate....you are referring to 'towing' methinks? My Ford rustbucket helped snare me my lovely wife, to whom I have been married 30 years on Monday gone!
82 Posted 30/07/2014 at 12:01:09
83 Posted 30/07/2014 at 14:07:05
84 Posted 30/07/2014 at 17:00:09
I will probably get slated for putting this but I would sell Gibson (always crocked) and bring in Fellaini to strengthen the squad.
Obviously a lot of difference in the money we would get for Gibson and pay for Fellaini but I reckon it would be worth it.
85 Posted 30/07/2014 at 17:00:09
I will probably get slated for putting this but I would sell Gibson (always crocked) and bring in Fellaini to strengthen the squad.
Obviously a lot of difference in the money we would get for Gibson and pay for Fellaini but I reckon it would be worth it.
87 Posted 30/07/2014 at 18:47:20
88 Posted 30/07/2014 at 19:25:03
89 Posted 30/07/2014 at 19:25:03
90 Posted 31/07/2014 at 00:09:50
91 Posted 31/07/2014 at 08:22:35
92 Posted 31/07/2014 at 08:44:31
I think the Gibson thing a couple posts up is pragmatic, but I'd far rather see Gibson here, crocked and all, than a negative big haired seal who only really plays as many games as Darron even though he's on the pitch every week.
93 Posted 31/07/2014 at 09:02:57
94 Posted 31/07/2014 at 09:19:35
Long answer: Noooooooooooooooooooooooooo.
95 Posted 31/07/2014 at 09:30:15
96 Posted 31/07/2014 at 09:41:06
Go to Germany and be successful, Fellaini!
97 Posted 31/07/2014 at 11:59:59
98 Posted 31/07/2014 at 12:25:16
99 Posted 31/07/2014 at 12:36:15
It's never going to be that low though is it? I would also say the same of Rodwell unless we can pick him up for below ٢m
100 Posted 31/07/2014 at 12:21:04
I can't see him coming straight back from Man U to us, as it would involve Man U losing too much face. As it is I think they're mugs for offloading him so quickly but I guess if Van Gaal doesn't rate him then they may as well stick him out on loan somewhere.
As to whether he's the right fit for RM's playing style, well I can't see him displacing Barry or Gibson, so maybe as an alternative to Barkley he could step in.
There are a lot of people slagging him, but when he played for us he was one of our best players. Full credit to RM for selling him and using the money to change the way we play, but let's not rewrite history. I personally think he is CL quality all day long and the fact that Arsenal and Chelsea aren't in for him just shows they lack bravery in the transfer market. His wages (are they really 100k a week??????) can't help either.
101 Posted 31/07/2014 at 12:57:07
102 Posted 31/07/2014 at 15:02:57
We play good football now, Fellaini wouldn't have a clue the lumbering great, pointy elbowed dumbass.
104 Posted 01/08/2014 at 11:03:53
If you notice his play a couple of seasons before he departed, there were glimpses of that defensive midfield play that is intelligent. That spin-around against Bellamy comes to mind.
I think he bombed out at Man Utd because of player power, ie, you have to come in as a dominant player against a team that were winners just the season before. Moyes was unable to figure out how to use him in that team, or was afraid to.
105 Posted 01/08/2014 at 11:15:03
106 Posted 01/08/2014 at 13:02:35
I liked him at Everton, but we have moved on.
107 Posted 02/08/2014 at 00:55:53
He does have some interesting skills, a great chester of the ball and quite skillful - rarely gave the ball away. But he was too poor in tackling/positioning and too slow to cover back as a DM, and not tricky enough as an attacking midfielder. I just not sure how we would use him now.
109 Posted 02/08/2014 at 18:29:58
110 Posted 02/08/2014 at 22:28:29
111 Posted 02/08/2014 at 23:47:47
112 Posted 07/08/2014 at 13:27:47
To conclude: Everton did well out of him financially but are better off without him.
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1 Posted 29/07/2014 at 16:34:05