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Joseph Terrence
1 Posted 13/07/2017 at 21:40:16
Apparently Funes Mori has a serious knee injury and will be out for an extended period.
Sam Hoare
2 Posted 13/07/2017 at 21:58:13
Funes Mori out for a while equals Van Dijk in?
Tony Hill
3 Posted 13/07/2017 at 22:00:25
Shame about Funes Mori. Torn meniscus is about 3 months apparently. Our only left-footed central defender too.
Don Alexander
4 Posted 13/07/2017 at 22:41:23
Is the Funes Mori meniscus injury not March's news? Or has he recovered and been injured again in an international that's escaped the whole world's media?
Brian Wilkinson
5 Posted 13/07/2017 at 22:58:44
New injury to Funes Mori? Let's just get Van Dijk in, splash the cash and watch the dark side go into meltdown.
Tony Hill
6 Posted 14/07/2017 at 00:08:19
The position with Funes Mori isn't very clear. Being reported as a setback from the original injury.
Colin Glassar
7 Posted 14/07/2017 at 07:50:34
Out until the New Year, I've heard.
Joe O'Brien
8 Posted 14/07/2017 at 07:53:54
Get Virgil van Dijk in please. Solid at the back, very good also at set pieces at the other end... would be a great partnership with Keane and it would send the Red Shite into meltdown.
Joe Clitherow
9 Posted 14/07/2017 at 07:57:04
Nailed on for the RS, apparently, Joe. Which will make things interesting.
Kunal Desai
10 Posted 14/07/2017 at 08:00:22
I think Funes Mori would be surplus to requirements anyway. Looks like he is here until January. I think we have four centre-backs, but worryingly we need some cover at left-back.
James Morgan
11 Posted 14/07/2017 at 08:44:08
First of all, I feel for the guy. Back-to-back bad injuries must be soul destroying.

A centre back who can play left back would be ideal, like the guy Palace beat us to.

Andrew Ellams
12 Posted 14/07/2017 at 08:59:34
James, has he actually signed for Palace yet? Although I'd prefer we moved for him and a left-sided central defender separately.
Nicholas Ryan
13 Posted 14/07/2017 at 09:06:35
Lyndon "under the knife...". I suspect a knee-surgeon hasn't used a knife for 30 years; however, "went under the electronically-controlled robot arm" doesn't quite have the same ring!
Joe O'Brien
14 Posted 14/07/2017 at 09:14:35
Yeah that's what I'm hearing too, Joe, but I'd still put in a bid. We'd be able to out bid them. Koeman brought him down from Celtic, both Dutch, supposed to be friends and have the same agent.

He's supposed to want to play under that clown in the Champions League. 1st of all, they're only in the qualifiers and secondly we've got a better team than them.

Maybe I'm a small bit biased, but if we went for him big he might start to think differently.

Alasdair Mackay
15 Posted 14/07/2017 at 09:15:12
Martins Indi would be good for me.

Or Inigo Martinez.

Both great left-sided centre-backs.

Phil Sammon
16 Posted 14/07/2017 at 10:06:39
Plenty of good additions so far this summer but I still think we need another CB.

I'll be very interested to see how we start up top. Are Rooney and Sandro vying for the same spot? Kevin Mirallas is a player I like but is he really good enough for that new contract and a starting berth on the left? Still haven't found that creative attacking midfielder we have lacked for years. Where does Davies fit in this year?

Lots of questions!

Mark McParlan
17 Posted 14/07/2017 at 10:57:19
Well, looks like the back 3/5 wing back system is now officially in the dustbin for next season unless we sign a centre back.

Also. Buy a bloody left back.

Terence Tyler
18 Posted 14/07/2017 at 11:41:55
Alastair @9 Martins Indi is having medical at Palace. Deal agreed.
Brian Wilkinson
19 Posted 14/07/2017 at 11:51:20
Joe@3 Dean Saunders was nailed on for Everton, let's return the favour and get Van Dijk in, then let's see who are the bitters when they go into meltdown.

£50 Million? £60 Million, who cares, be priceless landing the guy.

Colin Metcalfe
20 Posted 14/07/2017 at 12:15:56
How about Mo Besic as a central defender along side Keane? He played there yesterday and has played there with the Under-21 side late last season.
Andrew W James
21 Posted 14/07/2017 at 12:40:05
Colin @ 14.

I am a big fan of Besic and would love to see him succeed to Everton. Slightly worried about red cards and penslties as Mo does not hold back when tackling. But maybe he a Keane would be good with Jags as cover.

Alasdair Mackay
22 Posted 14/07/2017 at 12:48:00
Mo isn't tall enough to play centre-back in the Premier League. Didn't he play there a couple of times for Martinez and make crucial mistakes?

Terrence, yeah I saw about Martins-Indi going to Palace. I feel like we missed a trick there.

Steve Ferns
23 Posted 14/07/2017 at 12:52:36
Besic has the positional sense of a 6-year-old. Instead of playing centre back, he would be chasing down the opposition goalkeeper, to rapturous applause, only for the keeper to send one down the pitch and the striker to score from the absent Besic's position.

Okay, maybe an exaggeration, but he did that twice from a defensive midfield position, and that's forgetting the time he was titting about on ball and got robbed about 30 yards from his own goal.

Charlie Lloyd
24 Posted 14/07/2017 at 12:58:02
Colin @ 6

I certainly think Besic was tried there to see how he fares. Plus we have depth at centre midfield.

There are pros and cons to Besic playing there. Don't reckon this injury will prompt a £60m-ish move for Virgil Van Dijk. We still need to be mindful of this FFP rule and there are other positions that need addressing. If we move for a left centre-back,expect it to be a stop-gap cover signing only.

Steve Ferns
25 Posted 14/07/2017 at 12:59:58
I wouldn't worry about FFP Colin, all we need to do is show the books to UEFA and show them that we are solvent, and then we would allow us an anomaly year.
Russell Smith
26 Posted 14/07/2017 at 13:31:39
Besic could adapt to playing in the back four similar to Masscareno who was an okay defensive midfielder with the RS but a world class defender once he was moved there by Barcelona, and he is well under 6ft.
Denis Richardson
27 Posted 14/07/2017 at 13:42:02
Russel 20, not sure you can compare Besic as a CB to Mascarreno. Barca have about 99.9% possession most games, so he probably doesn't have that much to do as a defender. Also Mascarreno is a much much better all round footballer. Chalk and cheese imo.

From what I've seen of Besic so far (not a lot given he's been injured most of the time), he gives 200% and has a lot of aggression but little else that would make him prem quality. That one game against Argentina in the 2014 WC seems to have set him up for life given his agent managed to somehow get us to give him 7 years worth of contract ending in 2021!

Jamie Crowley
28 Posted 14/07/2017 at 13:47:25
I like Besic a lot. I think he'd do fine at centre-back.

Jags is 5'-11". Mo is 5'-10". I think Mo would make up for the inch height difference with passion and aggression.

He'd be an acceptable alternative and back-up if called upon.

Steve Ferns
29 Posted 14/07/2017 at 13:54:10
Centre-backs: Keane, Williams, Jagielka, Funes, Holgate, Pennington, Foulds ... Rooney ... the tea lady ... Besic.
Steven Telford
30 Posted 14/07/2017 at 14:28:19
Shock everybody by signing Koulibaly.

Imagine what a statement of intent that would be.

Russell Smith
31 Posted 14/07/2017 at 14:39:53
Steve @23 I have it from a reliable source that the tea lady's form has gone off the boil so I don't think we should consider her.
Fran Mitchell
32 Posted 14/07/2017 at 15:04:18
Besic just isn't good enough. He'd be a liability at the back, he Just doesn't have the temperement. Also injury prone.

I'd like to see Holgate given a chance, but either way we need another with this news.

No Idea who Mind.

Oh and comparing Mo Besic with Mascherano? What are you on? Mascherano wasnt an 'ok' defensive mid, he was absolute class. He is a world class player. Comparing these two is akin to comparing Philip Lahm and Tony Hibbert.

Roberto Birquet
33 Posted 14/07/2017 at 15:34:01
FFP? Our "spending" has all been recouped so far. Barkley and Niasse are likely to go at least. We'll have enough from that for a centre-back with dosh leftover towards a striker.

Then FFP can tell us where we can get Sigurdsson or not. Albeit £50 million is defo overpriced.

Alasdair Mackay
34 Posted 14/07/2017 at 16:52:13
We have no debt (thanks Farhad), have a £60m Chinese credit card and made £120m in TV money this year. We also sold Gerry for £10m, Cleverley for £8m, McGeady for £2m and Lukaku for £75m - giving us total spending potential of £275m.

£30 + 30 + 24 + 6 + 7 + 0 = £97m in outlay so far.

This means we have £178m of wiggle room before we have to start worrying about FFP.

David Barks
35 Posted 14/07/2017 at 16:56:02
There is no FFP issue. It has been detailed on these pages numerous times earlier in the summer. It is not the roadblock that people have made it out to be. There is zero issue with our spending so far and our ability to spend much more as the summer goes on.
Michael Kenrick
36 Posted 14/07/2017 at 19:42:37
Yes David, anyone spouting FFP really really needs to listen to the excellent Everton Business Matters podcasts put out under the Blue Room banner. Simply not an issue for us... at least not this summer.
Lev Vellene
37 Posted 14/07/2017 at 19:53:10
Michael (#36),

I never paid too much attention to anything FFP, as I didn't really think we'd get close to that limitation for a long time. Now here is Moshiri...

Can you, or anyone, give us a good link (or more) to let us others actually understand how this will work for the foreseeable future?

I'm too old for podcasts (whatever those are... People talking non-Queens English at a camera without sub-texting?)

So please give me anywhere that is not afraid to insult me by using the teaspoon-method of feeding me new knowledge! :D

John G Davies
38 Posted 14/07/2017 at 19:54:01
They do indeed.

Hypothetically speaking.
Sell Barkley for circa £20 million.
Sell McCarthy for circa £15-20 million
Sell Robles for £6-8 million.

Buy Sigurdsson circa £45 million.
Buy a centre forward circa £20- £40 million.

You have vastly improved your squad for around £45-50 million.

Brilliant business from Ron & Co

Ken Buckley
39 Posted 14/07/2017 at 20:02:48
Fran @32...

To be fair, Lahm wasn't that far behind Hibbert.

Frank Wade
40 Posted 14/07/2017 at 20:03:26
Lev, see FFP Link here, All you ever wanted to know about FFP but were afraid to ask !!!

It's still a bit fuzzy around penalties, but I think our plan/strategy is that increases in Commercial Revenue, sponsorships by USM and SportPesa may allow us the increases we need to our wage bill.

Peter Mills
41 Posted 14/07/2017 at 21:24:40
I'm not suggesting Besic is the answer to anything, but I watched him in that last Under-23s game against Liverpool and he played well in a very disciplined manner.
Jeff Armstrong
42 Posted 14/07/2017 at 22:32:15
John G hypothetical to start with, then you start thinking yeh... maybe... but it's not gonna happen is it? As Ron doesn't do brilliant business, hence £50 million for a £10 million player.
David Currie
43 Posted 14/07/2017 at 22:38:33
Get Sanchez from Ajax.
Mike Gaynes
44 Posted 14/07/2017 at 22:52:38
You're dreaming, David #43. Two clubs are already in for Sanchez.

Real Madrid and Barcelona.

Mike Gaynes
45 Posted 14/07/2017 at 22:54:29
Peter (#41), so he only got one yellow?

I'm kidding, of course, but I'm among those who thinks that if the answer is Besic, the question is one we should not be asking.

Laurie Hartley
46 Posted 14/07/2017 at 23:02:35
The lad must be gutted – I hope he makes a good recovery. He is going to need plenty of support given the problems he had with home sickness when he first signed.
Brian Williams
47 Posted 14/07/2017 at 23:25:19
Them shitbags from across the park are revelling in Funes Mori's setback. Karma they're claiming. Some tweets saying "hope he's finished" etc etc. Do Kopites not understand irony or what?
Tony Hill
48 Posted 14/07/2017 at 23:49:28
We are cautioned not to mention the RS on here too often, Brian. But we need to use hatred – ours of them and theirs of us – as fuel, and those fuckers are starting to get worried.

Their gobshitery should be music to us now. The bankrupt halfwit, Calamity James, is burbling on about us, so we know we're doing well.

Brian Williams
49 Posted 15/07/2017 at 00:15:24
Amen to that, Tony.
Paul Birmingham
50 Posted 15/07/2017 at 01:03:48
Fuck the RS. Life is to be enjoyed. La Vie, C'est La Vie!
Brian Porter
51 Posted 15/07/2017 at 07:07:57
Kunai (#10), so you really think Funes Mori is surplus to requirements? You'd rather keep the ageing Williams and Jagielka than the younger Funes Mori – a first choice selection for Argentina when fit?

I personally see both Williams and Jagielka,as belonging in the past. Williams, brought in to steady the ship last season did okay but his limitations were shown up against any team that attacked with pace.

Funes Mori is already being spoken of as a future captain of his country and you'd let him go and keep the two old men at the back? That doesn't sound like the 'new' Everton we are hearing so much about.

And don't forget that Funes Mori possesses a potent goal threat too. His first season showed that. Last season, before his injury, we achieved more clean sheets with him in the team than we did when he was absent.

I hope Koeman also sees the potential benefits to be derived from keeping our younger centre-back. Look forward, not back. Funes Mori could in time form a formidable partnership with Keane one natural right footer, one left.

An extended run as a regular starter would probably be the making of him and hopefully he'll play his way back into the starting eleven in time, once his injury problem is resolved.

Kenny Smith
52 Posted 15/07/2017 at 10:02:24
This is bad news. Okay, he's not Franco Baresi but he is one of our best centre halves. I hope this doesn't mean we abandon the deal for Sigurdsson because we have to focus the money elsewhere (although £50 mil too much).

I can see us adding another centre half it's just a question of their quality. We're gonna need 5 if we actually intend on challenging and Pennington as the 5th doesn't convince me.

Brian Wilkinson
53 Posted 15/07/2017 at 14:32:52
Cheers Frank @40, I was like Lev @37 in regards to podcasts and sharkapods, you are not on your own, Lev, glad you asked before me.
Peter Mills
54 Posted 15/07/2017 at 16:46:00
Mike (#44), I'm happy to give him another year before judging!
Kunal Desai
55 Posted 16/07/2017 at 09:42:13
Brian (#51). I think we'll have to disagree on this one. I believe if he wasn't injured then he would have been sold by Koeman and replaced with better.

I'm not comfortable with him in any centre-back pairing. He doesn't provide any confidence for me in the way in which he defends.

He probably would do well in Spain or Italy, where he will get more time on the ball. For me, long term, he is not the solution.

Gareth Rosslee
56 Posted 17/07/2017 at 08:28:27
Arsenal and Newcastle are famous for how many injured players they carry, but how many players sign for Everton and pick up serious injuries soon afterwards?

Bolasie, Kone, Oviedo, Funes Mori, Besic We seem to knack our new signings with alarming regularity.

Alasdair Mackay
57 Posted 18/07/2017 at 09:38:56
Terence Tyler (#18),

So it seems that Martins Indi didn't go to Palace as he is still training with Porto.

I saw a rumour this morning that we are after him. This would make me very happy.

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