I'm sorry to say this but I am referring to a segment of our own fanbase. (Great way to start by getting everyone onside, eh?) Here is where our fickle minority have an impact.
ToffeeWeb has been running a poll for the last week or so as to whether Sam Allerdyce should remain at the end of his 18 month contract. Not only does the prospect of another year petrify me personally but the question pertains to renewal of the contract after that!
We have had two wins at home to a weak Brighton and away to a struggling Stoke. Both of these teams were down to ten men, the former for the last ten minutes and the latter for over an hour and yet we barely scraped a 2-1 win there!
All of the luck that went against us before Allerdyce joined has largely been going for us since he arrived. Liverpool should've been 4 or 5-0 up when we got the accurate penalty to get a 1-1 draw. Newcastle hit the woodwork twice when we beat them 0-1 in the next game and that was the pattern of Allerdyce's tenure thus far for me. Just about getting points courtesy of luck. He has the audacity to try to take credit for the West Ham 4-0 win, to blame the players for losses and take solitary credit for wins. He offends me utterly as our manager.
So why is the title We Disappoint Me and how does that relate to the poll? Because this couple of very narrow wins has caused the poll that was fluttering around 96%-4% and 95%-5% to now sit solidly at 93%-7%
A minute change you might say and still overwhelming support for him not seeing 2019/20 onwards with us but I wonder what is in the heads of those few hundred who have switched so readily on such meagre evidence.
God forbid if we actually finished in 7th place, some people on here would be calling for him to be knighted and it sickens me. Just for total transparency, I, for one, am not a fan!
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1 Posted 22/03/2018 at 08:30:02
7% of 11000 is 770 supporting Sam (roughly the last figure)
410 supporters have been swayed by the last 2 games.
2 Posted 22/03/2018 at 08:31:19
410 out of 2000 supported Sam from the last 2 games, over 20%.
3 Posted 22/03/2018 at 08:58:20
From less than one-in-twenty to just one-in-five because of two consecutive average wins is absurd!
4 Posted 22/03/2018 at 09:14:40
5 Posted 22/03/2018 at 09:31:50
Seriously, this is not a "swing" in the opinions of those who had already voted but decision time for previous "don't knows / not yet voted" whatever, and at the risk of offending Chris, I remain astonished that two such lacklustre performances could persuade previously undecided individuals to join the "keep him" group.
6 Posted 22/03/2018 at 09:50:35
7 Posted 22/03/2018 at 11:05:30
What we need though is to be patient with the next manager we appoint and not turn on him as soon as he has one bad month which seems to be the modern day trend with football clubs and the internet brigade of fans these days.
We will never know how it would have developed under Koeman because he has a bad 10 games blooding in a virtually new team which struggles and then that's it the fans want him gone, will it be the same if we get Fonseca and he doesn't hit the ground running?
We need to stop convincing ourselves of this “but he doesn't get Everton “ bullshit and just let a manager come in and try and build a team over a sustained period of time.
Let's be honest, David Moyes got 11 years here and this day and age after his woeful 2003-04 campaign which saw a lowest points tally and 17th place finish, he would have been shown the door instantly but he was left to build a steady squad which saw players like Cahill, Arteta, Coleman, Pienaar all arrive and, whilst we never achieved true success, it was a stable squad that was left in place with some canny buys that performed well enough to regularly hit 5th and 6th.
Moshiri needs to get this appointment right in summer but the fans need to stop jumping on Twitter and laying 200% blame solely on the manager it's time to give whoever gets the Everton job exactly that, time.
8 Posted 22/03/2018 at 12:18:46
What worries me is that I read the other day that Craig Shakespeare (what is he employed as?) has moved his family up here. So what vibes is he getting from Moshiri to do that? He must be aware the fans don't like Allardyce and he knows if Allardyce goes then so does he. I do worry as to what Moshiri will do come the summer, as by then the season tickets will have been bought so he doesn't have to worry about playing in front of an empty ground.
You would think that if he was prepared to offer Watford in excess of £10 million then Silva would still be his go to man. And if he isn't his go to man then you have to query his decision making seeing he made that offer only months ago.
Also if reports were correct he also approached Fonseca after sacking Koeman. So the question is: Does he sack Allardyce and go back for Silva or approach Fonseca, or does he completely bottle it and stick with Allardyce?
9 Posted 22/03/2018 at 12:21:40
Dream the dream, lads.
11 Posted 22/03/2018 at 12:42:50
The bigger reason for worry is a small number of folk on our Board. Now the % of that small group would have some interest and meaning.
12 Posted 22/03/2018 at 15:38:09
@Dermot (#11) Thankfully, it looks like a Board overhaul is on the near horizon too but you can't call an instant shift of 1 in every 23 to 1 in every 5 insignificant.
13 Posted 22/03/2018 at 16:24:09
If Moshiri wants his project to continue, watch out for our next non-UK man-of-the-moment manager arriving this summer. If he doesn't, Sam will be here next season, we will play dull, functional football and finish 6th, 7th or 8th.
14 Posted 22/03/2018 at 16:46:41
15 Posted 23/03/2018 at 14:05:23
I never ever wanted him here to begin with. Whilst others stood and applauded him upon his arrival, I sat quietly in my seat, arms folded.
I've never, ever booed Everton, an Everton player or Everton manager. Heaven knows there have been occasions when circumstances persuaded many to do so. Just not for me and hopefully never will be.
However, Big Fat Sam embodies virtually each and every quality in spades that my dream Everton manager must not have. The temptation within me exists to jump up mid-game at no particular juncture and sprint determinedly (okay, lumber menacingly) towards the Directors Box roaring for his immediate expulsion from the manager's post, from Goodison Park & Finch Farm, from the British Isles and preferably from planet Earth.
No amount of rationalising or cherry-picked stats could shift my opinion one iota in favour of him.
16 Posted 23/03/2018 at 14:30:22
I, like all Everton fans, would really like to see a top class manager in place and bringing success to the club.
17 Posted 23/03/2018 at 14:32:02
18 Posted 24/03/2018 at 20:32:18
19 Posted 25/03/2018 at 11:38:33
Not, I suspect, it ever gets that formal because, as previously, most of decisions are made 'on the hoof' in those whispers we see between Kenwright and Moshiri in the Directors Box!
20 Posted 25/03/2018 at 11:55:37
Your call, Farhad. Think big, go big, act big. Very un-Everton, I know... but that's the only chance we have of rivalling the top four.
21 Posted 25/03/2018 at 12:14:18
I sometimes think ours have been made with the same intellectual rigour as the second part of some dreamy musical that remembers the good old days and not a lot more.
But, times they are a changin'
22 Posted 27/03/2018 at 00:13:18
I don't want us to lose on Saturday... and yet, on the balance of probabilities, things will be a whole lot less positive come Sunday.
We seem to be determined to accept crap. I don't wish to chop and change manager every time we have a poor result, but Allardyce was a terrible choice and for all the wrong reasons. He will sink us if he stays and attract dross far worse than seen under Koeman. We could easily become the next Villa by Christmas if this clown is still here.
23 Posted 01/04/2018 at 14:33:24
It's the same issue as when we play Liverpool: the players appear beaten before they start!
24 Posted 09/04/2018 at 13:02:21
Concerning the '410 out of 2000 who supported Sam from the last 2 games, over 20%', this may have just been his wife and a couple of his kids who offset my multiple voting by doing the same...but better by several hundred.
25 Posted 10/04/2018 at 12:36:15
Seriously there is only one way the board are going to listen to the supporters and that's if we protest and make our feeling clear, they don't read ToffeeWeb or any of the other fan sites and they probably think the media talk about him being replaced is just them fishing for stories.
The fat knob has probably told the board that he has saved our great club from sure-fire relegation and by the way he is the best manager in the history of football. The guy is pulling off the best con trick ever and the 5% or 7% or what ever are the ones buying it.
Let's just hope Moshiri isn't one of them... and if he is, we have to make it clear that the guy and all his hangers-on are not wanted by the people that go, week-in & week-out, and spend our hard-earned cash.
I would honestly suggest that, if nothing is done beforehand, a boycott of the Southampton game might get the message across; nothing makes owners take notice more than an empty stadium.
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