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Quite simply folks some of the TV punters have acclaimed Wayne Rooney's third goal as just that, our greatest ever, and that may be the case.
What do you think though, and if you differ, what WAS the greatest ever in your opinion?
For me the screamer Sharpy scored against them over the park takes the biscuit.
Don Alexander Posted 30/11/2017 at 23:55:02
Everton's official Premier League Squad for the 2017-18 season as listed on the Premier League website is as follows:
25 Squad players (*=Home grown)
Baines, Leighton John*
Byrne, Sam John*
Funes Mori, Jose Ramiro Gueye,
Jagielka, Philip Nikodem*
Jones, Gethin Wynne*
Keane, Michael Vincent*
Martina, Rhu-Endly Aurelio Jean-Carlo
Mirallas Y Castillo, Kevin Antonio Joel Gislain
Niasse, Baye Oumar
Pickford, Jordan Lee*
Ramirez Castillo, Sandro
Robles Blazquez, Joel
Rooney, Wayne Mark*
Sigurdsson, Gylfi Thor*
Williams, Ashley Errol*
We need 8 Home Grown players. I count 13. Of the 25, I count 23 as players who have played in the first team. The other two are Sam Byrne (striker) and Gethin Jones (right back). Both are over 21 and so need to be registered to play.
Now reviewing the list, it seems to me that our left back options, stretching it as far as I can, are as follows: - Leighton Baines - Ramiro Funes Mori (injured for the season as confirmed before the window shut) - 'Cuco' Martina (nice real name by the way) - Jonjoe Kenny - Mason Holgate
Now Kenny and Holgate emerged as candidates recently, (Sunderland LC and Southampton respectively) and were surely not viable candidates when the list was submitted. Martina was as Koeman discussed his versatility.
The serious question is this, was it really wise to loan out Galloway? Or could Garbutt have been registered as a contingency plan ahead of Byrne or Jones? Especially Jones, given he's older and less likely to play than Kenny and effectively a dead spot on the list?
What the list also shows is that we have only two spots (Byrne's and Jones's) to play with in the window, and after that we will have to move on over-21 players to make room, or simply not register them and be unable to play them.
Koeman really did a number on us this season, and this is just one such example of his gross incompetence.
Steve Ferns Posted 30/11/2017 at 01:36:58
Let’s start off on a nervy note - I think we made a huge mistake letting Koeman go... and if I were in charge, I’d try to get him back.
A big issue is that our fans have a huge say, which is a great thing, until we hit a rough patch. What we need is to keep clean sheets, be organized and build confidence. Tthe time for pleasing fans is not now, we do not need to entertain, we need to grind out games, we need to get players behind the ball and we need to not concede goals, no matter what.
In the same breath however; we cannot sit back for 90 minutes - the pressure will be too much. Therefore, we need to have an exit route, which means we need to have a striker with support up top. An isolated striker is pointless, we may as well not play with one.
Again, the fans are asking for width and pace... which is great when you’re doing well and in form... but we need to condense the midfield and make sure we aren’t vulnerable through the middle.
There is only one formation that we can play in my opinion.
Pickford Kenny Jagielka Keane Baines Idrissa Baningime Davies Sigurdsson Calvert-Lewin Niasse
Obvious a couple are injured/suspended - but you can see how much more solid this is, by having 3 in midfield and 2 up top. Also, when playing with 3 at the back, we seem so open, I’d much prefer a solid back 4. Another thing is that our fullbacks need to get back to basics - DEFENCE must be their first priority!
Pass and move is another thing we need to work on - there seems to be no movement at all by the players and this makes us easy to press.
When defenders are in doubt - kick the sh*t out of the ball. Kicking it out gives us time to reset. When we are in form then we can play out from the back. Now, we need to get the ball to Davies or Rooney (who ever plays in the free CM role) and let them distribute.
On a side note - playing three in midfield would suit Rooney - as I feel his only true position is one of the three in midfield. As this gives him a bit of freedom to do what he wants.
This formation also allows Sigurdsson to play in his natural position and run the show. While giving him options upfront to play through to - Niasse, Calvert-Lewin, Sandro, Bolasie (when he is back), Lookman - all willing runners who can cause problems.
We need to stick to the basics - have options in midfield so that we don’t have to pass backwards. Fullbacks sticking in their positions - as we have conceded a lot of goals when fullbacks bomb on. Playing two upfront also takes away the need for fullbacks to provide width. Defenders need to defend, not be play makers. Simple passes, let Rooney, Sigurdsson, Davies play the difficult pass.
Furthermore, getting back to the basics in terms of formation - this will allow Klaassen to show what he can do - similar to Rooney, I feel this is his natural position, one of the midfield three.
For the West Ham game - assuming Keane and Baines are injured - I would play:
Pickford Kenny Jagielka Williams Cuco Idrissa Baningime Rooney Sigurdsson Calvert-Lewin Sandro
Robles, Holgate, Besic, Schneiderlin, Davies, Vlasic, Lookman
For the Europa game:
Robles Lennon Holgate Williams Cuco Besic Schneiderlin Klaassen Vlasic Lookman Sandro
Hewelt, Feeney, Charsley, McCarthy, Lennon, Henen, Rooney
We are a much stronger team when our injured come back - Coleman, Barkley, Bolasie, Funes Mori, McCarthy and now Keane and Baines. Until then - we NEED to stick to the basics, get clean sheets and slowly build confidence.
Who ever our next manager is, that is what they need to do.
Gareth Clark Posted 28/11/2017 at 09:26:18
I know that Everton are currently in a difficult situtaion, the results are bad, morale seems worse and the whole picture looks very black... Surely then, this is all the more reason then NOT to appoint a someone like Allardyce?The club should be looking to send a positive signal, they should wait for the right manager, not a manager for right now.
They also (in my view) should steer clear of people who are happy to take money to advising others how to break the rules. That is not an image that were I would want associated with the club were I in charge.
Rupert Sullivan Posted 28/11/2017 at 07:50:41
May I sound a note of optimism amid all the gloom and doom? Contrary to many fans whose posts I have read I do not believe for one nanosecond that we will be relegated this season. So pervasive is the negativity that I read one post today that seemed to imply that we are going to be relegated from the Championship NEXT season. Bit soon for that, surely.
I would remind everybody that somewhere hidden in the chaos of the first team squad is a quality line up capable of driving up the table. Yes, this is a crisis, yes, our league position is humiliating and unacceptable. But look at where the problems began. The original error was trying to assimilate too many players too quickly into a squad that already had the makings of a successful team.
We should have signed three outfield players - yes one should have been a marquee striker - and taken the time to ease them into the team. Instead we tried to bring in too many players at the same time, disrupting both the existing squad and the already truncated preseason. no wonder the result has been chaos and disharmony and defeat.
What David Unsworth, or his successor, must do is choose a starting XI he believes in a give it the time to gel, not chop and change and assign blame. This starting line-up should include Rooney, Vlasic, Sigurdsson and Davies, and NOT Ashley Williams, Schneiderlin or Mirallas. Rooney must lead the team on the field - if only because he is probably the only one all of them respects. I believe Sandro will ultimately come good once this crisis has past and he has been given time to adjust. Klaassen, well the jury is still out. I don’t believe we have seen enough of him to judge.
Meanwhile, the talk of drifting to disaster and listing ships and free fall is only adding to the atmosphere of imminent catastrophe, which in turn is arming those misguided souls who think dishonest Sam Allardyce, who was prepared to sell his football soul for £400,000 is the right person to take Everton into the future. I don’t think so.
We are just as close to mid table as we are to the bottom. I have every confidence we will beat West Ham - a club with much more deep rooted troubles on Wednesday. There are many winnable games ahead. Keep Calm.
Peter Fearon Posted 28/11/2017 at 03:24:44
Is Michael Keane up for the fight or is he really injured?
Some might say he does not have the mental strength for a dog fight and can be a bit fragile when we need to show a spine.
I guess only time will tell so watch this space and let's see if Big Sam can put the wind up a few of them and lead us to safety should the rumours be true!
Simon Smith Posted 27/11/2017 at 22:02:03
Whilst watching another embarrassing capitulation against a Southampton side who prior to playing us couldn't hit a barn door, I began to think about how awful our squad actually is. I started to consider which players other teams would covet. Forget the 'top 6' clubs, I mean the other 14 who we have to mix it with at present.
So, I considered a scenario based on the present season. Burnley and Watford are battling to take the position we usually battle for, i.e. the best of the rest/7th. So imagine it's January and Mr Moshiri picks up the phone to Burnley and Watford respectively and says "If you give me a nominal fee, you can take your pick from our current (fit) players to help you push for 7th". (I say fit players so as to exclude those who can't help our current slide towards relegation, i.e. Coleman, Barkley and Bolasie).
So who do Sean Dyche and Marco Silva pick, if anyone? I would suggest they maybe take Pickford and possibly Sigurdsson, knowing if he plays in the position he plays for Iceland he can influence a game. So that is Burnley and Watford, not Man City and Chelsea, who may take up to 2 of our players.
This then made me take my blue tinted spectacles off and realise that maybe this is why there isn't a glut of top class managers banging down our door to come and manage this once great club. Why go to a 'bigger' club, on a 'bigger' salary, only to have to manage a 'poorer' squad for more demanding fans.
So where do we go from here? Well it looks like either Martin O'Neill or a Allardyce/Pulis appointment. Who would have thought that just 4 months ago. Oh well, it's over to the board to review that awesome short-list of candidates, none of which will be met with enthusiasm by the fans, and take your pick.
Carl Taylor Posted 26/11/2017 at 14:45:44
We are in crisis and can’t decide how we manage our way out of it, either with in-house Unsworth, or a true-brit, tried and tested manager, Allardyce or Dyche, or splash the cash and get a true European tried and tested, Ancelotti or Tuchel or go outfield and bring up a true outsider – Nuno from Wolves.
Therefore can I suggest that Mr Moshiri takes some time out and carries out an inquest of how we’ve got into this state, to ensure we don’t get into another one. Those found responsible should be discarded completely before we appoint on next manager. Can I also suggest that the inquest is carried out with only himself Moshiri, and his fellow board appointee Alexander Ryazantesev, and with a completely independent, football wise bloke who’s done it all before, Huddink ?
They need to question the likes of Kenwright, Elstone, Walsh, Royle et al, who together with the departed Koeman were the men responsible for our present position. Some questions which need answering are:
- Why was Lukaku not replaced, what were options A,B,C and why did they all fail?
- Why did we not acquire a left sided defender, and have to rely on 3 defenders all in their early/mid 30’s and at the end of their careers?
- Why did we end up with effectively three No 10’s in the squad, who let Koeman pursue £45m Sigurdsson when we already had Klassen and Rooney?
- What roles did Kenwright and Walsh actually carry out in all the transfer activities?
- Who actually chose our acquired players?
- Why were Barry, Dowell, Connolly, Browning and Galloway all allowed to leave/loaned out for a season when we short on left-sided players?
- Who decided not to register Garbutt for PL and Niasse for Europa Cup?
- What actually is the role of Director of Football and does it work, particularly with possible British Managers being brought in and also with Kenwright taking lead role in transfer negotiations?
- What should our future football management organisation be in light of what’s happened in last 18 months?.
When the inquest has finished, and the ramifications sorted then look for our next manager. Have the decency the let the Everton fans know how it failed.
Mike Oates Posted 26/11/2017 at 06:46:45
Blame Koeman. He probably played his part but it’s more the fans' fault.
People at the club keep calling us fantastic fans. I have to disagree.
I’m going to refer to us fans as “you” because I sing on my own most of the time.
You lot sit there and never sing. You wait for something to hopefully happen to get you excited.
I think it was with Moyesy we were last any good. With Martinez, we were okay with the School of Science chants but we actually lack the ability to even create a decent song for any player and come up with some of the worst stuff I’ve ever heard. Tim Cahill's song was a belter back in the day, wasn’t it?!
I know you fans are the difference, we can make or break this team this season and right now we’re not playing our part.
We can be fantastic fans but we’re more interested in chatting bubbles about something you read or heard, eating hot dogs, being sober doesn’t help and what’s all this clapping now and then at a pass? You’re a disgrace!!
Bournemouth had a better song for Rooney then us. Again we’re utter crap fans.
You are the reason we’re not playing well. The team are shite scared of us. If we sing, guaranteed you see an immediate difference in the players.
Step up, Blues, and sing for the whole game, no matter what.
If you don’t want to, then give your ticket to someone who will. The club no doubt would offer a part refund to you negative moaners. I'd rather see an empty seat than have a Negationian in amongst us.
Simple, when we’re singing at the tops of our voices, it’s absolutely the best feeling, the hairs on my neck standing on end. When the whole stadium are on their feet singing and we feel unbeatable and the team respond massively and go for it. 12th man an all that.
It’s a sad fact – Goodison Park is a library most of the game
Step up, Blues. Time for us to stop ruining our team's confidence and get our boys playing in a positive atmosphere.
Come on, you Blue Fans!!!
David Gill Posted 24/11/2017 at 23:29:53
Just over a month ago, our Board made the correct decision and sacked Ronald Koeman. No problem there. One assumed they had some idea of whom they wanted to succeed the highly paid Dutchman. Big names like Ancelotti and Tuchel were bandied around. Many fans expressed dismay that successful managers like Dyche and Wagner were being mentioned. Such men were too "small" for our great club.
A groundwell of opinion was pressing for one of our own, the estimable David Unsworth, to take over. Then the name of the legendary Big Sam was being bandied around. The Board stayed silent.
Now, well over a month later, few names are being mentioned. Unsworth appears to be as hapless as Koeman was with the squad he's inherited and still the Board stays silent.
Silva was apparently the Board's choice, but he's spoken for and if he is the Board's choice, they have to pay compensation or make an approach or do something. Their silence is deafening.
What is the Board's position? Who is their choice? Do they have a plan? Answers on a postcard to Goodison Park. All suggestions may be considered or they may not.What a way to run any organisation, never mind our beloved club.
Rick Tarleton Posted 24/11/2017 at 16:30:19
I think what's needed here is someone stating the bleeding obvious.
No...well, looks like it'll have to be me then.
So, as I say, some feller is definitely the man for me and I'll back him to the hilt.
Or...maybe I won't, depends how he does.
It’s a funny thing with managers, all we know for sure is that when it comes to picking the right man, we know fuck-all…for sure.
"Koeman's a great appointment...er...I mean shite!"
"Martinez is doing great...er...I mean Shite."
Supporters work themselves into a lather and turn themselves inside out over this feller or that, but re possible success/failure, they know next to nothing about what will happen (me included).
“He won the Jibrovian league six times!”
“Yeah but he got the sack from AK-47 and FC Borlbagg.”
There is simply no 'this plus that = the other.'
So re Everton, right now, the ‘evidence’ tells us the following..
Our 'what could happen next?' choices are very simple - we'll either pull ourselves out of the shite or sink further in.
Is there a manager who can guarantee the former?
No..but we (kind of) DO know the two things he'll need.
1) A bit of luck (good, obvs)
2) To be liked/respected by the squad*
And..that’s it really (well ok, of course there’s fitness and a plan etc, BUT if they hate his guts or think he’s a nob-head, they won’t listen so..).
Never forget the following..
Ranieri lost the Greece job after his side were beaten by a few gozzy-eyed inbreds who live on a rock in the North Atlantic.
Who’d want a hopeless loser like THAT as their manager..right?
His next job was manager of relegation candidates Leicester and…they won the fucking PL title.
Oh sure NOW people can rationalise it, but the only thing it should tell you is - I repeat - no one knows a fucking thing.
So right now, I don’t give a fuck about what our next manager has or hasn’t done.
What leagues/cups he's won, who he's managed or how many times he's been sacked.
I’ll take anyone who OUR players like/respect and/or who is thought of as lucky.
Oh actually there is ONE thing I know.
A couple of wins on the bounce vastly increases the confidence of ANY struggling side.
And that confidence means more confidence and maybe a few more wins and maybe less defeats and maybe a better league position and..
Well, you get the idea (I know, stating the obvious but sometimes it needs stating)
So right now, imo, we’re looking for anyone (ANYFUCKINGONE!) who can give us two wins on the bounce.
“Yeah but WHO?”
No idea, like I say, some feller (Joe Royle** would be my choice, but as I say, anyone the players will respond to).
“Is there anything you DO fucking know?”
Honestly, like you, not much for sure, but I don't think ALL the players we bought are "fucking shite!!" (nb: their past performances for other clubs tells me that) so would hope that the next person in can get them performing close to their best.
Oh and I know the next three games are very very VERY important.
Up the Toffees!
* Understand some would respond "FUCK THEM, THEY'RE ON 80K A FUCKING WEEK, THEY SHOULD..." but now isn't the time to be completely unrealistic. As frustrating/annoying as it is, if they're miserable, chances are we are too.
** How come Royle, a smart man (good psychologist) and a winning manager and player with Everton wasn't (seemingly) even considered for the role?
Eugene Ruane Posted 24/11/2017 at 13:53:13
It's time to get real. Pulis is available. Everton are in freefall. Film-star managers for Everton are not a possibility.
Unsy's time is over. If the board don't act now, we will become a football irrelevance.
Get Pulis now!
Harry Catterall Posted 23/11/2017 at 23:21:56
Would this team beat our current eleven?Ruddy; Mostafi, Duffy, Stones, Dier; Deulofeu, Barry, Fellaini, Cleverley; Lukaku, Naismith.
All the above are playing in the Championship or the Premier League (with the exception of Geri). Would these give our first eleven a run for their money? If Yes, then how do we find ourselves in a position that we have lost the above?
Nigel Gregson Posted 19/11/2017 at 15:12:00
It is the time you take to look for options before you get the ball, even as it is travelling towards you that gives you the edge. Which of our current squad are most capable?http://www.skysports.com/football/news/11096/11119387/what-gave-xavi-hernandez-and-andrea-pirlo-an-edge-on-the-rest-the-secret-to-his-vision
Thomas Lennon Posted 10/11/2017 at 12:56:33
This is a suggestion for the poets and jesters who go to Goodison with chants and songs and odes to our great players. Seamus will (hopefully) be racing up the right wing in a few months, and I think a new song would show our appreciation. The song, Las Vegas in the Hills of Donegal, by Goats Don't Shave (I know, I know) has the chorus:
And if I could I'd build a wall around old Donegal
The north and south to keep them out, by God I'd build it tall
Casinos, chicken ranches, I'd legalize them all
We'd have our own Las Vegas, in the hills of Donegal
Yeah Las Vegas, in the hills of Donegal
I can guarantee that Seamus knows this song. :)
We can change it to this, or something similar:
Goodison jumps to it's feet, when Seamus gets the ball,
He's up and down the right wing, he's nearly 6 feet tall
He only cost us 60 grand, but we don't care at all
He's our Seamus Coleman, the man from Donegal,
SEAMUS Coleman, the man from Donegal
There's plenty of diddly-aye there too!
As I say, it's just a suggestion for those who make up songs or get songs going in the crowd. It's been going around in my head for years.
Dermot O'Brien Posted 09/11/2017 at 13:04:41
Okay, he hasn’t signed on the dotted line yet but he’s going to so better get used to it.
What’s perhaps more interesting are the insights that Big Sam’s appointment gives as to the thinking of Kenwright and Moshiri. Truly progressive companies work along the sound principles of forward planning. They can see trends and they can gear their businesses to take advantage. Everton isn’t run along these lines. It veers from one crisis to another and the cycle shows no signs of breaking.
Consider the last two managerial appointments. Quite what Bill Kenwright saw in Roberto Martinez, beyond nice shoes, I will never understand. Martinez had just presided over Wigan’s relegation. The hallmark of that team was a dodgy defence, a problem that persisted through Martinez’s regime at Everton.
Then we had Ronald Koeman. I sit in a marketing office in London, with no obvious connections to football. Lo and behold, as Koeman was being appointed, I got an e mail forwarded to me by my Saints-supporting colleague which told me exactly how things had unravelled at Southampton. It entirely predicted what would happen at Everton – Koeman being deeply unpopular with players and fans as his arrogance shone through.
All of this suggests a business philosophy that doesn’t do due diligence and certainly has no forward plan.
And so, to the impending appointment of Big Sam. His USP, unique selling proposition, to Everton’s owners is that he has never presided over a relegation. This appointment backs up the contention that there is no forward plan whatsoever at Everton except to stay in the division. This is where the money is made and this is all the Everton owners care about.
Allardyce is 63. He’s not exactly the future of football. Looking ahead, Nil Satis nisi optimum has never made less sense. Everton’s real “mission statement” now should be “make do and mend” and hope it all sort of comes out okay.
Finally, I would apply the same thoughts to the new ground. Nothing the owners say or do gives me any comfort on the new ground and I think their short-termism and mistakes on manager selection equally applies to the supposed new ground.
So, what does the future hold? Staying in the division. That’s all.Sam will deliver that but don’t expect any plan beyond the end of this season.
Jonathan Tasker Posted 07/11/2017 at 07:55:05
I have been saying for a long time, that we need to tighten up our defence and build confidence through defensive solidity.
However, there is no point doing this, and then having absolutely nothing going for us up front... because, as we have seen, the pressure will eventually get to us and we will concede.
This mean that we simply HAVE TO play two up front and three in midfield.
If would therefore 4-3-1-2
Kenny Keane Jagielka Baines
Idrissa Baningime Rooney
Robles, Williams, Holgate, Davies, Vlasic, Lennon, Lookman
With Schneiderlin being off his best and with the apparent lack of effort I’d leave him out for now (however I am more than confident that he will fix his wrongs and get back to the right attitude). I would play McCarthy (if fit) as the CDM in the midfield three. If McCarthy is not fit, I’d go with either Baningime or Besic in at CDM. With Rooney and Idrissa having a slightly more free role, and allowing Rooney to control the game from midfield.
This formation allows us to have enough in midfield to keep out the goals, while Niasse and Calvert-Lewin offer more than enough pace and width upfront - further more, it means they are not isolated. As seen in the Watford game, and many other games, when we have switched to 2 up front.
Sigurdsson would also thrive in this formation.
It would also then be easy to switch to a 4-2-3-1 later on to add width with Lookman, Vlasic or Lennon.
Moving onto the near future we have 2 Europa games left, and with our exit from the competition confirmed, I would use it as a platform to build team confidence and give players who have not played the opportunity to prove themselves and put pressure on the usual starters.
I would also play our new players from Europe (Sandro, Klaassen, Vlasic) as they have experience in Europe and also they need a chance.
Holgate Feeney Williams Cuco
Besic Schneiderlin Klaassen
Vlasic Sandro Lookman
Stekelenburg, Keane, Kenny, Baninime, Davies, Lennon, Henen
Or something similar...
Further into the future:
Looking at when our injured players come back.
We have a very exciting time ahead of us - the return of Bolasie, Coleman, Barkley and Funes Mori...
The difference these players will make is difficult to explain... we have missed Bolasie and Coleman’s passion and energy so much, Barkley’s ability and Funes Mori’s pace and left foot. As well as the inclusion of Garbutt in January!
With a full strength team, we have a very very strong squad:
GK: Pickford / Robles / Stekelenburg
RB: Coleman / Kenny / Cuco
RCB: Keane / Holgate / Jagielka
LCB: Funes Mori / Williams / Feeney
LB: Baines / Garbutt
RCM: Idrissa / Besic
CDM: Schneiderlin / McCarthy / Baningime
LCM: Rooney / Davies / Klaassen
CAM: Sigurdsson / Barkley
RW: Bolasie / Lookman / Lennon
LW: Sandro / Vlasic / Mirallas
ST: Calvert-Lewin / Niasse
I think people often get too focused on the here and now (which is important, of course) - but we also need to look at the big picture.
We have a strong squad, and a good blend of experience, youth and players in their prime. Yes we are missing a few players - a striker, a left back and a CB. However, next season we have a lot of on loan players coming back.
Most exciting is our winger/striker Onyekuru, who is thriving once again. Then there is Dowell who is proving himself and learning a lot in the championship, which is a big step for him.
And then there are others, such as Robinson (LB), Galloway (LCB/LB), Browning (RCB/RB), Walsh (CM), Williams (CM), Pennington (CB) to name a few off the top of my head...
We need to build, therefore I don’t think we should sell anyone (especially those just bought in this summer - give them a season and a bit to adapt and prove themselves).
I might let the likes of Cuco, Mirallas, Stekelenburg go, but I’d like to keep the others.
Onwards and upwards, Blues... this was always going to be a tough season, with so much change. But we need to back our boys and our team. Patients and full support.
Gareth Clark Posted 06/11/2017 at 11:50:02
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