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Derek Taylor
1 Posted 08/12/2018 at 14:18:28
Takes RS to keep us in 6th spot, it seems!

Let's face it, they dwell in a different world to us — particularly in the goalscoring and lucky departments!

Brian Murray
2 Posted 08/12/2018 at 14:59:55
I would donate a kidney to stop them winning the league. No doubt we will help them next week vs Man City. Nightmare on Gwladys Street, Part Two.
Jim Bennings
3 Posted 08/12/2018 at 15:31:08

We are liable to drop down the table over the next few weekends anyway even if we win Monday.

Brighton could beat Burnley today it wouldn't be a shock so they'll be on our tails when we face Man City and Spurs, I don't care how optimistic some people look at it, we haven't got the goals in us to beat either of them.

By the time we go to Burnley and Brighton after Christmas we'll have lost momentum and will need 6 points from those two away trips.

Paul Hewitt
5 Posted 08/12/2018 at 16:59:53
Don't let me down now, City.
Lawrence Green
6 Posted 08/12/2018 at 17:23:07
Jim 'Meldew' Bennings is there any part of Everton FC that you have a positive outlook on? As has been said on other threads, by other people, in order to get any enjoyment out of the game of football it is necessary to take each result as it comes and to put in the psychological bin the results that have gone against your 'favourite' team.

Are we Evertonians who support the club and try to retain a positive outlook on our club's fortunes or are we first and foremost RS haters who look at the results of the other lot and bemoan our own team's short-comings.

Of course, it's a bit of both in most cases but, if Everton aren't doing the business results-wise, I'm not in the least cheered up by the fact that our friends from over the park might lose or miss out on something. The Man City game is a fixture that Everton probably won't get anything from, but if they do I will be happy and celebrate the result regardless of how it may help some of the other teams in the division.

Brian Murray
7 Posted 08/12/2018 at 17:55:22
Laurence Green. Very commendable and probably the right attitude as a Blue to want us to win every game. If we beat Man City and it helps the other crowd to win the league, I wonder if you would still have the same stance?

Let our so-called renaissance get delayed until after Man City have taken 6 points off us — otherwise, life will never ever be the same. Trust me. Just look at the media already and that's without Pinocchio and other ex kopites.

Tom Bowers
8 Posted 08/12/2018 at 18:29:10
We need a good result on Monday and then a good result by Napoli to turn around this lousy ten days.
Paul Richards
9 Posted 08/12/2018 at 19:04:47
Man City really struggling to score against Chelsea, behind 1-0. This could be their first defeat, which would be another dagger to the heart for us Blues this week.
Paul Richards
10 Posted 08/12/2018 at 19:04:48
And now it's 2-0 for Chelsea... from a corner FFS.
Christopher Marston
11 Posted 08/12/2018 at 19:11:32
The RedShite are truly the luckiest bastards!

First Pickford gifted them 2 points, then Bournemouth's top scorer and one of the league's most in-form players is ruled out of their game, now David Silva gets injured and Luiz has a corker of a game. Fucking devil deal!!

Jim Bennings
12 Posted 08/12/2018 at 19:13:20
Put your life savings on City skullbanging us next Saturday, the very worst possible result for us, them losing tonight!


I see very little to be positive about when it involves Everton because, each season that passes, the same letdowns and unfulfilled feelings are there come May.

23 years without a trophy.
Never win a Merseyside derby anymore.

Can't beat a top 6 side anywhere anymore (it used to just be away but we can't beat any of them at home now either).

It's okay always being a "glass half-full" person but reality is, at the end of every season, we are constantly told that we are making progress and sold a story that is meant to keep us all happy when really it's just the same as we have seen 10 years ago under Moyes.

Hopefully Marco breaks the mould and I can be proved wrong on a near lifetime of letdown supporting this club.

Paul Richards
13 Posted 08/12/2018 at 19:16:37
And Barkley could have headed that in instead of wide!
Jim Bennings
14 Posted 08/12/2018 at 19:25:09

I'm sick of hearing about them being lucky!

Everton were not unlucky last Sunday and Liverpool weren't lucky.

It would have been luck on Liverpool's part if Pickford had been beaten by a cruel deflection to wrong-foot him, but he gifted it to them with a pathetic schoolboy mistake (twice at Anfield this year – thanks Jordan).

Origi deserves credit for sniffing out the mistake which is more than you could say for our statues stood there with hands up glaring at the linesman appealing for mercy.

Joe McMahon
15 Posted 08/12/2018 at 19:28:19
Christopher Marston @11 – yes they are. But Pickford has had 2 big last minute howlers at Anfield in 2018, Everton didn't beat Huddersfield, Newcastle and WHU at home, and haven't been scoring from corners for the past 15 to 20 years, even with everyone's fave Baines taking them. As you can see Everton have enough to get better at.

For what it's worth I accepted Liverpool will win the title before the season started, and there is nothing Everton can do about it, apart from beating them twice, and that's never gonna happen.

Kevin Naylor
16 Posted 08/12/2018 at 19:29:24
Well, it's starting to look like we need a Stevie Gee moment, otherwise, that Jaws-faced fooker is going to be holding the Premier League trophy come May. I can't see them making the same error twice though.,
Mike Jones
17 Posted 08/12/2018 at 19:35:31
We're all talking about Liverpool again and getting defeatist... let it go. Concentrate on us and where we might be... life will be better.
Brent Stephens
18 Posted 08/12/2018 at 19:37:48
"It would have been luck on Liverpool's part if Pickford had been beaten by a cruel deflection to wrong-foot him, but he gifted it to them with a pathetic schoolboy mistake."

So not skill but luck.

Jim Bennings
19 Posted 08/12/2018 at 19:46:11
Blame luck but ask yourselves this?

If Allison had done what Pickford did in injury time, does anyone think an Everton player would have been first to sniff out the mistake or would Van Dijk, Robertson or some other red cunt had more aggression to beat us to it?

Prime example was the one from Gomes in the first half, you just knew one of them would beat our players to stop it going over the line.

No win at Anfield since 1999 also bad luck?

Blame luck, that's what we always do, but also why we never win shit.

Jay Wood

20 Posted 08/12/2018 at 19:47:08
I watched Chelsea - Man City as a scouting mission ahead of our upcoming game with City.

Not in the least bit concerned what this result means for t'other lot.

Chelsea basically scored their goals totally against the run of play. Man City were dominant in the 1st half without a final cutting edge.

Ironically, given the recent TW debate about our corner taking and from free kicks, City had 13 in the game to Chelsea's one (which maybe shouldn't have been given) which Luis scored from.

City played the majority of their corners directly into the heart of the penalty area, rather than short corners, and even with the quality of Silva and Sterling on corner taking duty, often failed to beat the first man.

With my Everton interest, I thought John Stones looked a Rolls-Royce of a player and that Barkley played well when he came on. Disciplined in holding his position and tidy in most things he did.

City's defeat today means they will be firing on all cylinders next time out — against us. Looking forward to seeing how Silva and the team play it.

Jim Bennings
21 Posted 08/12/2018 at 19:51:28
When it all boils down to it, every fan accuses the best teams of being lucky but the best teams generate their own luck by being braver and bolder than the rest.

Liverpool won on Sunday because they finished the game going for the winner whilst, seconds earlier, we were taking the ball to the corner flag to hold out for a draw.

Fortune favours the brave and we haven't been brave for years.

We laud our big players but it's funny how over the years our big players never turn up in the big games, even Pickford has started now at Anfield, £30 million goalkeeper, England Number One — yet he's cost us twice in late defeats there.

Lawrence Green
22 Posted 08/12/2018 at 19:52:47
I know fine well what Everton FC haven't done in the last three decades, Jim, I've seen the majority of it first-hand — most games at Goodison with a smattering of away games thrown in.

You're asking me to concentrate on the failure of Everton in the past and use it as a barrometer for future events, but following a Club isn't like that; you have to have some hope that at some point in time, the tide will turn, that your team will achieve some of the stuff we all wish that it would. This current management structure may well be the last real chance that Everton FC has to rejoin the elite; from that perspective, I don't want to throw the towel in just yet.

Admittedly it's not getting any easier to keep the positive flag flying and it doesn't help that quite a few fellow fans seem to be trapped in a mindset that accepts that what has happened in the past will automatically follow us into the future, whilst at the same time, their faith in our neighbours knows no bounds, they'll beat x, y and z easily, they'll win this or that competition etc etc. However, their recent record of silverware, suggests otherwise, doesn't it?

If — and it's still an 'if' — they win the Premier League, then, like most other champions, they will deserve to do so, because they will have taken more points than any other team in the division. But, whatever happens to them, it has no direct bearing on the players or staff we have at Goodison and therefore no bearing on Everton's results out on the pitch — apart from when we take them on directly.

I'm as disappointed — second thoughts... make that 'hopping mad' as the next Evertonian with Everton's fall from grace in the last quarter-of-a-century, but I won't make that disappointment greater by being pre-occupied with the progress of other clubs, near or far or by being fatalistic about how we will fail in the future — life's too short!

Kevin Naylor
23 Posted 08/12/2018 at 19:55:32
Someone made a good point as why we have lost so many goals late to them over the last few years and mainly it's because we are defending to sneak a draw most time.

Only time we've scored late against them that I can actually remember having an effect on the result in recent times, was Jagielka's equaliser back in 2013, I think because we had to go looking for one.

If you sit back against any decent team, playing for a draw, then you will get punished more often than not and sometimes it is unfotunateley down to luck.

Bill Gienapp
24 Posted 08/12/2018 at 19:57:04
Jim (19) – Of course he wouldn't have been anywhere near the pitch, but scoring in that hypothetical scenario would really be *everything* the Oumar Niasse era has been building towards.
Dave Abrahams
25 Posted 08/12/2018 at 20:10:20
Kevin (23), funny enough, I think we actually got that equaliser because Liverpool retreated back and decided to defend and hold on to their one-goal lead.
Colin Glassar
27 Posted 08/12/2018 at 20:25:33
Spot on, Jim. I just knew it once we started wasting time, in injury time, they'd have at least one more chance to score.

We never learn that the refs will always add a minute or two for such idiotic play. I still remember that John Terry goal a few seasons ago.

Brian Murray
28 Posted 08/12/2018 at 20:37:59
On the face of it, our collapse on big occasions since the 70s:

Bingham's team was so close... then Gordon Lee's team even better. If we were a one-club city, it's not a terrible time we have had. Unfortunately, our barometer goes by what they do... like it or not.

Paul Richards
29 Posted 09/12/2018 at 17:39:45
Some fine counter-attacking moves from Wolves at Newcastle. The dummy on the one at 80 mins was well worth a goal but forced a fine save from Dubrovka.
Paul Richards
30 Posted 09/12/2018 at 17:53:59
And finally it pays off for the Wolves, a fine breakaway goal in the last minute of added time. Them Geordies are sobbing in their Newky Brown.

"I love it, I just love it" — to quote a certain one-time Toon manager...

Paul Richards
31 Posted 09/12/2018 at 17:57:41
I shouldna be so happy... there are now seven teams competing tooth-un-nail in mid-table for the Best of the Rest title, within a spread of just 3 points down to Watford in 13th... arrrgh!!

Such vital points we threw away last week... Makes me sick as a pig.

Rob Halligan
32 Posted 09/12/2018 at 18:11:41
Nice to see the Geordies lose like that. The way they celebrated at the end on Wednesday night, you'd think they'd won the league.

Also a definite red card. The FSW was calling for VAR. Does he not realise it's not used in Premier League games this season? The red card still would have stood even if VAR was being used.

Jim Bennings
33 Posted 09/12/2018 at 18:26:57
Not sure why everyone is happy to see Wolves win when they will be challenging us for 7th.

I couldn't give a damn about Newcastle, they came and did a job on us Wednesday and we were too clueless to beat them... end of.

Jim Bennings
34 Posted 09/12/2018 at 18:28:50
If we don't beat Watford tomorrow, by the time Boxing Day comes, we could well be 12th or 13th — that's what comes of not being clinical in most of our games this season.

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