Following on from John McFarlane Snr's 80th birthday and Mike Gaynes's visit prior to the Anfield derby, a third gathering of ToffeeWebbers is planned for 21st April after the home game against Manchester United.
I trawled the Internet for suitable premises, which indeed was a challenge, but after physically travelling to Liverpool (I live in Chester now) and hot-footing visits to various establishments determined to find a venue, I have managed to get a guaranteed reservation.
The third ToffeeWeb Get-Together will take be at 'Excelsior' in Liverpool, not directly in the centre, but on Dale Street in the L2 area. An area will be cordoned off to the general public, for the exclusive use of ToffeeWeb Members.
It is a CAMRA-listed pub for those who like to relish 'real ale' and they have different 'guest beers' every two or three weeks. They also have a great selection of different pies and the kitchen will stay open till 19.00, for those who may want a snack after the game.
I have booked it from 16.30 onwards after the United game. For anyone who wishes to turn up early they have televisions so the match will be on also. Just make it known to the Manager (Gary) who happens to be a Blue that you are with the ToffeeWeb contingent, and you will be treated accordingly.
I know there will be a nucleus of attendees, including Steve Ferns, John McFarlane Snr, Rob Halligan, Peter Mills, Brian Williams, John Raftery, Dave and Tony Abrahams, Neil Copeland, Andy Crooks (special mention for Andy, coming as before from Belfast, last time didn't even have a ticket for the Derby game) and of course myself, but it would be great to meet and put new faces to names on the site.
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1 Posted 04/04/2019 at 09:10:27
When I spoke to the duty manager at Wetherspoons, she indicated that she couldn't foresee any problems, but it's only the Manager who can take bookings. He won't be in for two days so ring back then. Which I duly did, only to be met with a ' no way Jose ' response, he said, understandably the week-ends tend to be their busiest periods (especially the food side of things) and with it being further exacerbated by falling on Easter Sunday it was a double negative.
Refusing to give up, I tried several other venues and was basically met with similar responses, with the week-end/Easter Sunday aspect proving to be a major stumbling block.
I then resorted to trawling the Internet under Liverpool Pubs and establishments, I phoned several numbers and in all cases where possible, left a message on the answerphone service.
Having received no responses after waiting a couple of days, which I found somewhat strange, only to later discover that nearly all the website's listed numbers I had rang, were no longer appropriate as the Pubs had changed ownership or had shut.
I then decided to travel to Liverpool personally and do it that way. As I landed at Moorfields, I spotted the Lion Tavern just across the road (which was one of the pubs I could not reach by phone) I talked to the barman, who was quite pleasant, but there was a familiar ring to his response, it that he could not take bookings as it was down to the Manager (Groundhog Day feelings were beginning to take over at this point). He indicated that the Manager would be 'possibly' around between 14.00-15.00. I did return only to be told he had come in, been told about the proposed event, but showed little interest and did not leave any contact details.
I then went walkabout to put some other irons in the fire, and Gumshoed other prospective premises. I tentatively got a vestige of good news from the Barman at The Excelsior, I tested the beer, and had a good chat with him, subsequently he phoned his 'boss' to which the reply, was a resounding 'yes', I later found out through Peter the Barman that it was very much a ' Blue pub ' and the manager Gary is a toffee. Apparently he has Blue podcasts on a weekly basis (Tuesday I think he said).
I now know how Archimedes felt when he ran semi-naked through the streets of Syracuse exclaiming and proclaiming the word Eureka, ( I have found it ) not sure if he meant the soap, or the displacement of a body in water. :-)
As has been mentioned above, it is a real ale CAMRA pub, personally am not into them but I know a lot of people like to sample different potions. From what I could gather it is roughly about £4 a pint, which is a bit dearer than hoped for, but the words beggars and choosers immediately sprung to mind.
What I would suggest, depending on numbers attending, that we split ourselves into bite-size groups, and each group has a 'kitty' they have trays behind the bar so getting the liquid refreshments should not present a problem.
Hoping to see some new faces as well, as the known ones, All are welcome, fully understand that some who would like to go, but find that it may not be possible on that day at that time. Fear not, as I hope we can possibly have similar events in the future.
2 Posted 04/04/2019 at 11:00:04
3 Posted 04/04/2019 at 11:22:33
4 Posted 04/04/2019 at 14:23:04
5 Posted 04/04/2019 at 14:28:37
6 Posted 04/04/2019 at 14:58:41
7 Posted 04/04/2019 at 16:00:00
8 Posted 04/04/2019 at 16:51:32
I hope to be there to put a face to some of the names.
9 Posted 04/04/2019 at 17:12:24
I doubt whether there has been much modernisation done over the years, and it could well be your original Magnum Opus, that is still in existence Ray.
Forgot to mention also in addition to the Pies+Gravy+Mash+Peas or French Fries, they do Hot Dogs.
10 Posted 04/04/2019 at 17:18:31
11 Posted 04/04/2019 at 17:42:00
12 Posted 04/04/2019 at 18:02:48
Derek, I hope it is the original, at least something Ive done has stood the test of time!
Its 46 years since I left Liverpool and about 48 since I went in the Excelsior, so I look forward to the visit.
13 Posted 04/04/2019 at 18:24:06
Looking forward to putting faces to names!
14 Posted 04/04/2019 at 18:25:58
Although I was not staying too far from the Midland after the last meet, the journey back to the hotel took considerably longer than the journey TO it!
15 Posted 04/04/2019 at 18:39:25
16 Posted 04/04/2019 at 19:20:23
I owe you a few bottles of Guinness John, so its a good job it sounds like you are on rations!
17 Posted 04/04/2019 at 19:24:11
18 Posted 04/04/2019 at 19:44:13
19 Posted 04/04/2019 at 19:52:51
I'll be wishing that I was there with you guys, one and all. Take a whole bunch of pictures and post 'em.
20 Posted 04/04/2019 at 19:58:19
21 Posted 04/04/2019 at 20:04:56
22 Posted 04/04/2019 at 20:44:35
Im still unsure of family commitments at present, but will be there if I can after the match.
Best wishes all round.
23 Posted 04/04/2019 at 20:49:13
Thanks to your hard work, and a little bit of publicity, things are developing the way I had hoped they would, following the initial gathering. Peter Mills and yourself, are to be congratulated for taking the baton, 'From acorns, mighty oak trees grow'.
24 Posted 04/04/2019 at 21:05:18
25 Posted 04/04/2019 at 21:20:05
26 Posted 04/04/2019 at 21:38:41
Was Jordan in there as well, George? 😉
27 Posted 04/04/2019 at 21:38:49
I'm a sometimes poster on this site so I hope you all don't mind if I come along. It would be good to put some faces to the names, whose comments I read on here all the time.
28 Posted 04/04/2019 at 21:58:12
29 Posted 04/04/2019 at 22:04:26
Peter Mills organised the second get together to welcome Mike Gaynes who was on European tour (orchestral, I believe). Derek has done sterling work to organise this gathering, Derek and I have been in contact and I know that like myself, he feels that the more the merrier. I have no doubt that he will post to confirm what I have just written.
30 Posted 04/04/2019 at 22:48:49
I was back in the pool last November and managed to go to the Brighton game
. so I hope you all have a great time and lets hope that the boys give us another fine victory. I can't be physically with you but I will be in spirit
31 Posted 04/04/2019 at 22:50:42
32 Posted 04/04/2019 at 23:04:23
33 Posted 04/04/2019 at 23:15:46
34 Posted 04/04/2019 at 23:18:52
35 Posted 04/04/2019 at 23:29:05
36 Posted 04/04/2019 at 00:00:55
37 Posted 05/04/2019 at 00:31:16
38 Posted 05/04/2019 at 00:56:42
George McKane, I am also so glad you are now in a position to be able to attend, and again looking forward to the occasion.
As John said there are still 16 days or so to go, so hoping for the Tsunami effect, with much less devastation of course, to sweep some others along as well.
Mike Gaynes, I doubt 'Jimmy the Sailor's antennae' will pick up on this but you never know, and while not a ToffeeWebber he would be welcome to join us too.
So thanks again to all who are making the 'pilgrimage' and those who would like to but can't, don't worry, with any luck, these events hopefully will become fairly regular occurrences.
39 Posted 05/04/2019 at 01:20:08
40 Posted 05/04/2019 at 01:24:32
41 Posted 05/04/2019 at 02:43:48
Chris @40, don't think twice it's alright, and don't stay away getting those subterranean homesick blues, the answer my friend is blowing in the wind, and I for one, do recall your posts, you will be more than welcome.
42 Posted 05/04/2019 at 09:11:42
43 Posted 05/04/2019 at 10:54:13
Have a great time and COYB!
44 Posted 05/04/2019 at 11:19:37
You do realise that immediately following our game the RS will be live on TV, and we all know that's what RS fans do, go the pub to watch the match. However, I don't think The Excelsior will be full of them, if any at all. The Excelsior is tucked away in its own little corner at the top of Dale street, so everything should be fine. Just a warning though.
Unfortunately I won't be able to attend, due to family commitments, but I know you will all have a great time if the last one is anything to go by.
Once again, well done for arranging this meeting, and I will definitely be attending the next one.
45 Posted 05/04/2019 at 12:49:56
What was it that Brian Labone said about one Evertonian and twenty Liverpudlians?
46 Posted 05/04/2019 at 13:14:13
It is unfortunate also that it not only fell on the Easter Sunday, but also on the same day the RS were playing, after our game, but the Manager has assured me, is it is not only a Blue Pub, but that there will be copious strings of garlic adorning all entrances, just in case. :-)
47 Posted 06/04/2019 at 21:56:39
Thanks and hope you all have a great time and hopefully the next time I am home I can get to meet some of you gentlemen and share a tipple or to enjoy your day. COYB
48 Posted 08/04/2019 at 00:15:53
49 Posted 08/04/2019 at 18:17:32
I know Liverpool more by places, landmarks and pubs etc rather than by street names.
Is Dale Street where Rigby's pub is situated? If yes where is the Excelsior in relation to Rigby's?
50 Posted 08/04/2019 at 18:32:07
51 Posted 08/04/2019 at 19:03:49
As John says if you travel North on Dale Street you will see a fly-over which has been shut for quite a few months, and cordoned off. The Excelsior is almost opposite that.
Their website has quite a few photos, both inside and out, so you will get a better idea if you have a squint at them.
52 Posted 08/04/2019 at 19:42:36
But I'm just putting the finishing touches to a system that ensures everyone present, will be able to converse with each other for a minimum of 45 minutes, an hour if we're still standing at 10-o'clock'. If you e-mail your address, I'll send you a copy.
53 Posted 08/04/2019 at 20:03:04
54 Posted 09/04/2019 at 22:20:32
Hope all ToffeeWebbers have a good time.
55 Posted 18/04/2019 at 19:18:08
Phone number 07514213785
I have spoken to Derek but as is the way with me have lost his number.
Dave, it is so long since I have seen the team run out to z cars I guess I will have a lump in my throat.
Anyway, it's done to Tony and you. Thank you and see you soon.
56 Posted 18/04/2019 at 19:59:18
Everyone have a great time. Derek - well done for putting it all together.
Have a beer for me. Happy Easter!
57 Posted 19/04/2019 at 11:17:41
Jamie, don't worry mate, you will make it over one day, be great to meet you, will have a beer for you, take care.
58 Posted 19/04/2019 at 19:55:53
59 Posted 19/04/2019 at 20:17:38
The weather is going to be scorching so all we need is for the team to forget about last weeks cock up and put on a show for us, especially you. See you Sunday.
60 Posted 19/04/2019 at 22:41:45
61 Posted 19/04/2019 at 22:50:15
63 Posted 19/04/2019 at 23:20:21
64 Posted 20/04/2019 at 08:48:13
65 Posted 20/04/2019 at 18:10:53
66 Posted 22/04/2019 at 16:09:00
Hoped for, yes!, as in every game, but wow that blew all of us away, and in addition they were all 'good goals' I know all goals are good in terms of the team, but I mean there were no scrambles, lucky deflections, dubious decisions etc, but all well crafted from open play.
I know George McKane always has a fun bet at 4-0, with any winnings going to his charity, but at 100/1, I believe, no-one could have imagined a score-line against one of the top six like that.
As things panned out for me personally, I was promised a Ticket for the match through a Man United acquaintance, which unfortunately did not materialise, however I went to The Excelsior earlier than expected, in the knowledge that I could watch the Match on one of their many TV's.
While we were allowed to use the room allocated for the event, unfortunately due to the place being crowded the inevitable overspill of people managed to encroach into our space, and although they were mainly Evertonians, we did struggle to be 'all together', although we all did have a seat this time.
Some members had to go early to honour their family commitments, being Easter, but I for one, was more than grateful that they turned up, so all due respect to those guys.
Taking all things into consideration, with it being a brilliant day weather-wise, Easter Sunday and Liverpool being on the TV directly after our match, all factors which won't happen at the next meeting. I would like to suggest for any such future event that The Excelsior, again be the chosen venue, I don't mind what little organisation will be involved for the next one I will gladly do it. I would also invite any suggestions for the next one (after the new fixtures are announced) hopefully to coincide with an earlier than normal kick-off, either on a Saturday or a Sunday.
I would also like to thank Mike Gaynes again for his kind gesture. He also wanted some photos of the event, I have a couple on my phone, but they were later on, so the company had dwindled a bit by that time. George McKane had a proper camera, which he has attached some photos to TDH Blues Facebook page. I am not 100% sure how to link mine to the site, but will try to find out.
Finally like to thank the following TW Members for their support : Ged McKean, Ray Roche, Bill Watson, Bill Griffiths, George McKane, Andy Crooks, Brian Williams, Dave and Tony Abrahams, John McFarlane Snr, Steve Ferns, and John Raftery.
67 Posted 22/04/2019 at 16:30:31
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