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Michael Kenrick
1 Posted 18/05/2019 at 16:25:04
FA Cup Final day... always brings back memories.

1995... my god, how long ago? But it's hard to get up for this one. Maybe once they kick off, but the warm-up is hard to get enthused about.

Joe McMahon
2 Posted 18/05/2019 at 16:29:01
I know Michael it's shite, I was 25 back then, I'm 50 later this year. To think not one single trophy since then is an absolute shocker!
Michael Kenrick
3 Posted 18/05/2019 at 16:50:01
I love Abide with Me, what a fantastic tradition.
Brian Murray
6 Posted 18/05/2019 at 16:55:27
Yes great tradition. Can’t abide with red shiesters though😊
Michael Kenrick
7 Posted 18/05/2019 at 16:58:19
Found a fantastic feed with sound but no commentary on Fartbook!

Live from Wembley ahead of 2019 Emirates FA Cup Final

But it's only the warmup...

Michael Kenrick
8 Posted 18/05/2019 at 17:13:18
Big chance blown by Pereyra for Watford. Shoulda scored.
Brent Stephens
9 Posted 18/05/2019 at 17:15:41
Michael, you're hogging the thread!

Yes, Abide With Me does something to you.

Mike Gaynes
10 Posted 18/05/2019 at 17:19:55
Thanks for the link, Michael. This is great stuff.
Michael Kenrick
11 Posted 18/05/2019 at 17:20:47
I'm not the only one watching, then, Brent!

Can't understand Brian (@6) and his red fixation. Can't we forget about them fuckers for just one day?

Rob Halligan
12 Posted 18/05/2019 at 17:24:31
Couldn't a live forum have been used today for this?
Mike Gaynes
13 Posted 18/05/2019 at 17:26:13
There is one, Rob. Come on over!
Michael Kenrick
14 Posted 18/05/2019 at 17:26:45
Had to switch to ESPN online for the game, Mike.
Dermot Byrne
15 Posted 18/05/2019 at 17:49:09
I want Man City to be so so much better than reds.

Jaysus that is madness.

I have a soft spot for Citeh just because of imagining a fan like me, aged 58, who stuck with them in Div 2.

But, I imagine even he can see the dullness of money inevitability of modern football.

Dermot Byrne
16 Posted 18/05/2019 at 17:52:36
Be a lonely one Rob!
Jay Wood
[BRZ]

17 Posted 18/05/2019 at 17:59:06
Watford had a good opening 20 minutes, but to have even the ghost of a chance they needed to score from the opening Deulofeu created.

Mahrez has got Holebas on toast. Doucouré trying to be too cute in midfield, coughing up cheap possession for the opening goal. A MAGNIFICENT pass in behind the defence by Bernardo Silva for the second, which Jesus does well with, but to me it looks like a goal for Sterling.

There really doesn't look like a way back from here for Watford.

And watching the BBC feed, there is Bobby WHITE shoes pitchside!

Dermot Byrne
18 Posted 18/05/2019 at 18:02:45
Still, at least they are better than Liverpool Jay!

Ha.

Get your coat Dermot!

Dermot Byrne
19 Posted 18/05/2019 at 18:23:17
Shit...is a lonely one. Even editor has given up!
David Greenwood
20 Posted 18/05/2019 at 18:27:29
Too easy for City now. Every attack could be a goal.
Brent Stephens
21 Posted 18/05/2019 at 18:57:20
Live Forum, Dermot. Free entry
Mike Gaynes
22 Posted 18/05/2019 at 19:05:14
Dermot, where were you? Saved you a seat and a beer, mate.
Dave Abrahams
23 Posted 18/05/2019 at 19:09:52
For an FA Cup Final, that was as near to perfection from Man City as you will ever see by any team.

I felt sorry for Watford and their fans; after the first 25 minutes, they were mostly chasing shadows, but they stuck at it and never let the frustration they must have felt get the better of them – and that goes for their fans who got behind them, even though they knew it was a lost cause.

Well done, City, the FA Cup may have lost a lot of its glow, but I was glad I watched that exhibition of pure football, one to remember by everyone who saw it.

Brent Stephens
24 Posted 18/05/2019 at 19:14:03
Dave, it was a joy to watch. What I also like about City is that they don't do arrogance and knobheads like some other clubs.
Jay Wood
[BRZ]

25 Posted 18/05/2019 at 19:15:41
Brutal.

Or should that read 'Blutal'?

Alexander Murphy
26 Posted 18/05/2019 at 19:32:39
Comments & Texts received from Bluenoses during the game.

"FA being petitioned by reds to have the FA Cup Final replayed between them and Watford!".

On 80 mins... "Just spotted John Terry putting on his Citeh kit!".

Both following on from this article earlier in the week:

https://www.thedailymash.co.uk/sport/sport-headlines/liverpool-allowed-to-carry-their-points-over-to-next-season-20190513185544

Bill Gienapp
27 Posted 18/05/2019 at 19:33:02
Well that was a massacre. I'm still trying to figure out how City's failed to progress past the quarterfinals of the Champions League these past two seasons.
Dermot Byrne
28 Posted 18/05/2019 at 19:40:01
Mike...shit. Missed a beer. That is a first!
Paul Birmingham
29 Posted 19/05/2019 at 10:04:28
That’s the level, and a different class of football that’s, almost pure football.

Incredible, let’s hope we can progress and take inspiration from City, for next season.

Stan Schofield
30 Posted 19/05/2019 at 12:18:06
City remind me of Everton in the late 60s, a brand of 'beautiful game' football unequalled by other teams in Britain. This is how football should be played, to be a pleasure on the eye. I have hopes that Silva's approach is consistent with this ideal, and that, as Paul says, it will inspire Everton.

Brian Wilkinson
31 Posted 19/05/2019 at 13:06:59
The cup final hopefully, will get some of its tradition back, it is to be given to the BBC and ITV to broadcast from next season.

Hopefully will go back to the traditional build up and possibly 3pm kick off. It's a cup final knockout, meet the players, fans build up like it used to be, before sky and bt took it away from the UK public viewers.

Let's hope they revert back to a Saturday 3 pm kick off.

Tony Everan
32 Posted 19/05/2019 at 15:07:47
It was only 6-0, could have been 8+ if Man City were trying.
Ron Sear
33 Posted 19/05/2019 at 15:43:10
Can't help observe how inevitable this result was when you consider that the players on City's bench were worth more than the entire Watford team. Courtesy of www.90min.com Just look at the values of the Premier League's teams and reflect on their current positions, it certainly should tell you something about how the system works:

Ranking All 20 Premier League Clubs on the Market Value of Their 2018/19 Squads
1. Manchester City - £953.55m
2. Liverpool - £801.9m
3. Chelsea - £787.28m
4. Manchester United - £769.5m
5. Tottenham - £751.05m
6. Arsenal - £498.6m
7. Everton - £389.70m
8. Leicester City - £300.15m
9. West Ham - £257.85m
10. Southampton - £239.04m
11. Fulham - £223.43m
12. Crystal Palace - £193.79m
13. Wolverhampton Wanderers - £177.93m
14. Burnley - £169.43m
15. Brighton & Hove Albion - £161.73m
16. Newcastle United - £159.03m
17. AFC Bournemouth - £147.83m
18. Watford - £147.78m
19. Huddersfield Town - £104.49m
20. Cardiff City - £85.64m

Michael Kenrick
34 Posted 19/05/2019 at 15:52:34
I know that's probably tongue-in-cheek, Tony (#32), but it masks the incredible workrate they put in. They had to try pretty hard in the first half as Watford made them work hard for the breakthrough.

What I liked to see is the minimization of mistakes. The accurate passing, the making space off the ball... taking shots at goal. Stones getting berated for not scoring the 7th takes it a bit far — the keeper's there to save it if he can.

John McFarlane Snr
35 Posted 19/05/2019 at 16:15:00
Hi Dave, [23] I have to agree with you, that was football as near to perfection as you could hope for. Regarding the FA Cup competition itself, my opinion, for what it's worth, is that it will only return to its former glory when clubs begin to field their strongest teams for every fixture.

I firmly believe that the supporters are being short-changed, and youngsters are denied the once in a lifetime opportunity of seeing stars in the flesh. Imagine the expectancy of a young Rochdale fan, when his club is drawn at home to Arsenal, and his disappointment, on learning that only two first-team players have been selected. Just the ramblings of an old man, but I know that you will appreciate the true value of my views.

Jay Wood
[BRZ]

36 Posted 19/05/2019 at 17:15:38
Brian @ 31.

Sad to say, I don't think the FA Cup - the world's oldest footballing trophy - will ever regain its 'traditions', as much of what made it such a great and much-revered competition, worldwide, has been eroded by its own custodians, the FA.

It started in the early 1990s with the 'staggering' of replay games, at the behest of the local constabulary. Until then, drawn games on a Saturday (because ALL games were played on a Saturday) would be scheduled for a mid-week game in the week immediately after the original game. The police said it was too short a turnaround time to ensure effective policing of such games, so replays were scheduled a week and a half after the original game.

So instead of protracted slugfests over 4-5-6 consecutive midweek games (Everton v Sheffield Weds, anyone? Was it 5-1 we finally twatted them at Hillsborough after FIVE games alternating between their place and Goodison...?), with now a minimum of a couple of weeks between replays, drawn games and replays started seriously impacting on the fixture list, especially for the top teams challenging on all fronts.

This resulted in the introduction of the penalty shoot out, after extra-time, at the end of the (now) one and only replay, again early 1990s. The first bit of 'magic' chipped off the cup.

The semi-finals followed a similar fate. Even before the above, from the early 1980s, the first semi-final (still played at neutral CLUB grounds), if the teams were still level after 90 minutes, extra time would be played. If still level, they would go to a replay then extra time and penalties, if needed.

By 1999-2000, semi-final replays were done away with altogether and the result was decided on the day in 90 minutes, extra-time or penalties. More 'sheen' eroded from the cup. After the completion of the new Wembley, the FA needed to maximize their investment and decreed that both semis would be played there, rather than the traditional semi-final neutral grounds.

And the slow-creep of undermining the attraction of the cup was continued by the FA. In 2016-17, the semi-final 'decided-on-the-day' rule was extended to the 6th round - the quarter finals, so gone were the battling draws to 'get them back on our own patch' games. This season - 2018-19 - this rule was extended to the 5th round, the last 16.

That now leaves but two rounds - the 3rd and 4th rounds (the 3rd round being when the top two division teams join the fray) - where the great tradition of a little club battling to get a giant club 'back on our own patch' is possible.

Anyone care to guess where the FA intend to go next with this 'finish it on the day' policy..?

Then you have the policy where teams are, potentially, 'throwing games' - fielding weakened selections to rest players for the higher priority, their league position. Supporters of a certain age group will be able to recall when teams did this in the past, the FA hauled them over the coals and fined them. Now, they just turn a blind eye to it.

The FA had a great 'product'. They themselves are solely responsible for devaluing it as much as they have and making it such an anaemic imitation of its original, which no longer is held in the highest regard and the greatest day out for players and supporters alike: to appear at a Wembley cup final.

Rob Halligan
37 Posted 19/05/2019 at 17:36:59
Jay, I wouldn't be surprised, but can't see it happening, if the FA decided to introduce seeding for the 3rd Round of the FA Cup. How many times down the years have we seen top Premier League teams drawn against each other in the 3rd Round?

The more Premier League teams who are knocked out in the 3rd and 4th Rounds means less interest in the latter rounds, probably as far as the semi-finals. This season, we had Man City, Brighton, Wolves and Watford in the semi-finals. We all knew there and then there was only ever going to be one winner of the cup.

Jack Convery
38 Posted 19/05/2019 at 23:46:25
The BBC took Pointless off the air to show Pointless The Fa Cup Final instead. Take Geri from the Watford team who else wanted to compete against City. Maybe its me but it was akin to what the Yanks call a blowout in the Superbowl were one team is so dominant its just ridiculous and not an enjoyable watch.
Bill Watson
39 Posted 20/05/2019 at 08:54:18
We should all be very grateful for Manchester City. The RS ran them very close but are unlikely to repeat that, next season.

This season the RS were incredibly lucky with injuries, benefited from three outrageous goalkeeping errors and referees were continually conned by their diving and cheating antics.

If the introduction of VAR is used properly it could cost them at least 10-15 points compared to this season.

I'm not particularly bothered how they do against 'Spurs as they know they've blown what was probably their best chance of winning the PL and next year it will be, like us, three decades since they last won the title.

Maybe the CL should be renamed as this year's finalists haven't won their championship for a combined total of 87 years!

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