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1 Posted 04/06/2019 at 07:19:49
I bet Eddie Gray was glad he just missed the Everton v Leeds games of a few years earlier!
Some right crackers
People say Goodison can have an intimidating atmosphere now!
What would they say about the early 60's ?
Not just Leeds either, remember Brown the Spurs goalie and the dart carry on ?
Crazy times indeed
2 Posted 04/06/2019 at 14:29:58
My regular spec in the 60's was behind the Park End goal, and the incident involving Derek Temple and Willie Bell in front of the paddock, was one of the most violent challenges [if not the worst] I have seen in my years of attending Goodison Park, we were amazed that Temple was reintroduced to the fray. if memory serves me right, to add salt to the wound, Eric Bell scored the winning goal.
Regarding the atmosphere, I think that it's a chicken and egg situation, the fans can claim that they are waiting for inspiration from the players, and the players, likewise from the fans. I do know, that when fans and players are in sync, there is an excellent atmosphere, intimidating to the opposition. Bet wishes John.
3 Posted 04/06/2019 at 14:32:48
4 Posted 04/06/2019 at 18:39:35
Hi Terry  you refer to Terry Paine and Ron Davies, I'm surprised that you omitted John Sydenham. Paine joined Southampton in February 1957, and Sydenham two months later. Between them they made 1056 League appearances Including 6 as substitutes. scoring 196 goals.
I'm afraid that the name John Milkings is unfamiliar to me, I checked his League record and it shows that he never played in the top flight. He joined Portsmouth in May 1961 and made 344 appearances, before leaving for Oxford United in August 1974, where he made a further 53 starts.
The only Portsmouth goalkeeper I can recall is Norman Uprichard (pronounced Youprichard), who signed for 'Pompey' in November 1952 and went on to play 182 games, before moving to Southend United in July 1959, where he clocked up another 12 appearances. Norman also won 18 caps for Northern Ireland.
5 Posted 04/06/2019 at 19:33:44
I met Terry Paine a few years ago in Cape Town. I think he was doing some pundit stuff for someone or other.
Anyway what an interesting guy and some great stories of Everton players and games he played against and in.
Looked great and as fit as a fiddle because he must be getting on a bit.
Always remember him as a very good clean tricky winger with a fantastic cross
7 Posted 06/06/2019 at 15:40:26
Trevor Ford, as you say an handful for any defence and another one who relished a battle.
Ivor Allchurch an eloquent stylish footballer always good to watch, he played alongside his brother Len, another Welsh international outside right.
Bobby Tambling a very good goal scoring player, I think he scored for Chelsea againstLiverpool in an FA cupgame at Anfield.
Eddie Gray another great dribbling winger very stylish a bit on the lines of Kevin Sheedy.
Terry Underwood mentions two favourites of mine in Terry Paine and Ron Davies great players, Terry Paine got a good few England caps, he would have got a lot more but played in the same era when there was plenty of excellent right wingers to choose from including Bryan Douglas of Blackburn Rovers.
8 Posted 06/06/2019 at 16:52:52
9 Posted 10/06/2019 at 22:08:43
Eddie Gray never got the credit he deserved, in fact none of the Don's players did. He had a sweet left foot and great hair. (It mattered to me then.)
Did Ivor have a brother who could play? Also, John, what are your views on Peter Osgood. Do you recall Sir Alf (the greatest coach in history) neglecting him and Rodney Marsh?
10 Posted 11/06/2019 at 13:35:36
Summerbee was my favourite out of that lot. Fast and direct he always had a goal in him and could also look after himself.
I totally agree in regard to your comment about over protection of players in today's game. Also the superb playing surfaces we now have as opposed to the mud heaps and rutted surfaces of yesteryear.
Imagine how much better players like Young and Best would be if they were playing in today's conditions.
11 Posted 13/06/2019 at 15:11:50
Hi Dave,  Tambling did indeed score in the Liverpool FA Cup 3rd round game, I believe [from memory] that Barry Bridges scored the other goal in a 2-1 win, and also [from a now fading memory] I believe that Chelsea were trailing to a Roger Hunt goal.
My abiding memory from that day is of a friend [sadly no longer with us] and I, running across Stanley Park following Everton's 3-0 victory over Sunderland. As Liverpool had kicked off later than Everton, play was still in progress, unfortunately we weren't able to get in. We taunted our 'red friends' by saying " You won the Cup after 73 years, and held on to it for 90 minutes".
Hi Don  you are correct in saying that Alf Ramsey did away with the traditional winger, which altered the game completely. In my opinion a change for the worse, because like any other change,it didn't take the League clubs long to follow suit, and as you say, many talented wingers were denied the opportunity of gaining international recognition.
Hi Andy  regarding the lack of international appearances, by Rodney Marsh and Peter Osgood, they were competing against the likes of Bobby Charlton, Martin Chivers, Jeff Astle, etc, and I suppose it was a case of one mans meat is another mans poison. I imagine that even managers have favourites, and that it also applies at international level.
Hi Bill  your choice of Mike Summerbee as your favourite of the recently published footballers of a bygone age, reinforces my belief that even managers are likely to favour individuals for a variety of reasons.
Regarding playing conditions, I often think of what players like Alex Young, Howard Kendall, George Best, and Denis Law may have achieved in today's game. [Lighter equipment, bowling green pitches, plus referee protection.]
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