Football today is like a teddy bears picnic for the younger generation, all those new stadiums, pre-match entertainment behind the Park End, foot-long hot dogs, various energy drinks and a football pitch immaculate.
Updated scores and near misses reshown on the screen in the stadium, a friendly chat with opposing supporters and an option of countless takeaways and fast-food stores for the journey home.
You lucky, lucky people... you don’t know you're born, (famous quote from our parents).
Well it was not always like that, I can only reflect from the seventies so pretty sure this could turn into the Monty Python Yorkshire sketch from even older generations than myself.
Back then, there was no mingling with rival fans, the goal mouth resembled a ploughed field, Baseball ground was a ploughed field for every inch.
You would find a lovely viewpoint in the ground until 10 mins from kick-off Richard, Osman's Dad, would stand in front of you on arrival and suddenly you're looking at someone’s back; however, a near-miss could give you that advantage of darting through the sway and getting in front of the guy.
For the younger ones, you either took your chance in the Boys Pen, not a good idea, or it was an upside-down milk crate, at the front.
You may recall those foot-long hot dogs I mentioned earlier, well back then, it was a Freddy Boswell cart with hotdogs the size of those small tin ones you get now with stewed onions.
Inside the ground was no better, tea, Bouvril, wagon wheels and some dodgy crisps, nearly always ready salted, that was your choice.
Latest scores came from Mr transistor radio guy in the crowd, with the ht courtesy of an a-z board along Bullens road, with a guy putting numbers next to them, with the back of your programe showing the matches for the A-Z letters, every game was a Saturday 3pm kick -ff back then.
Then you had the toilets, you took your chance trying to get in, others chose a rolled-up Liverpool echo as an easy option.
Now you have stewards, happy to show you the direction of your seat; back then it was Sgt Harris and his cane with a steel tip, police dogs coming within feet of taking a bite.
After the match, back to the coach in time to hear the full-time scores, no toilets on coaches back then either.
Then home in time to enjoy your tea that had been kept warm in the oven, complete with hard baked-on gravy.
Well, that is was how it was like back then.
I did mention the Yorkshire Monty python sketch, at this moment in time, can hear even the older generation saying, coach, we had to walk, oven we dreamed of having an oven to keep our tea warm, Wagon wheels and crisps, we had to take beef dripping sandwiches, with a made-up bottle of cordial.
We did see silverweare though and met some great characters at the game.
So, for the younger generation of today, enjoy the match and be thankful for the luxuries you have today.
Here’s hoping you get to see Everton lift some silverware.
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1 Posted 05/09/2019 at 09:32:16
Never partook of the food and drink, because we lived about half a mile away, but I recall meat pies and beer in cardboard cups advertising Mackeson (looks good, tastes good, and by golly it does you good). Another strong memory is the smell of smoke from cigarettes, pipes and cigars, at least it seemed a mix of the three.
Goodison's pitch was relatively good compared with many others. It was never really a mud bath as such. However, after only a few games it became grassless in front of the goals and around the centre spot. If it had been wet weather, there would be half a dozen blokes with forks, forking the pitch in the centre circle.
When the players came on, they just warmed up naturally, with none of the regimented stuff they do these days. I remember one game where some lads ran on to the pitch during the warm up, and Alan Ball had a bit of a kick about with them. Then the law gently shifted them back into the crowd.
I remember the floodlights on pylons, but these were replaced after the 69-70 title season when the new stand was built in Goodison Rd, and floodlights were put along the tops of the stands, a first I believe.
I think another first was under-pitch heating, and an electronic scoreboard, both after 1970. When we beat Southampton 8-0, I can still remember who scored and when from the sequence 7, 9, 7, 9, 8, 9, 9, 7 on the scoreboard (Johnson was 7, Royle 9, and Ball 8).
Another strong memory was, it was often a good laugh, especially when the stadium was packed with 60,000 and the atmosphere was electric. Some of the wits in the crowd were tremendous.
It may well be luxurious these days, but to me it seemed fairly luxurious back then.
2 Posted 05/09/2019 at 09:47:43
3 Posted 05/09/2019 at 09:52:32
By Mk1 eyeball a Low 40Ks out of a 55K total, somehow became...34,379.
4 Posted 05/09/2019 at 10:18:00
The other major change over the years are the screens at grounds, which update scores from other games all over the country. But back in the day, there were no transistor radios to let you know how other teams were getting on. But at half time on the wall in front of the main stand there used to be letters a,b,c and so on. Each letter had a game assigned to it and this was also printed in the match programme. Usually it was done in alphabetic order. So at half time a steward used to come out with the scores. So he would start at letter A which could have been Arsenal v Liverpool, so he might put a 1 first then you waited with bated breath to see what score the away team was then the steward would put up the away score. They did this so after about 5 minutes you knew all the half time scores.
Also there were no substitutes back then so if a player had to go off then you played the rest of the game with 10 men. This was at a time when defenders could tackle from behind and back then there were some very lets say unscrupulous defenders. I well remember Banks, Barret and Hartle that played for Bolton they were feared throughout the league. Jimmy Greaves tells the story when he was playing his second or third game for Chelsea they played Bolton away and Banks and Hartle kept saying to one another send him over to me so I can kick him.
The pay for players back then although maybe 3 times what the average working man was earning was nothing like the difference there is today in players wages against the average working man. Players used to use public transport imagine seeing any of todays players on a bus. They were more approachable back then, no driving out of training grounds with blacked out windows.
5 Posted 05/09/2019 at 10:59:05
6 Posted 05/09/2019 at 11:04:32
A lot of footballers lived in the likes of Formby, which was comparatively posh. After I got married and left Liverpool, we lived in a place called Croft in Warrington, where Liverpool's Roger Hunt still lives. We had a house built in 1969, decent sized house but ordinary, the original owner being Alec Lindsay (again of Liverpool). It's difficult to imagine a top footballer nowadays living in an ordinary place like that. It's all gone a bit weird money-wise.
7 Posted 05/09/2019 at 11:06:44
8 Posted 05/09/2019 at 11:34:08
And remember how you could take booze into the ground easily those days. I remember Glaswegians during what I think was a pre-season friendly and their whisky bottles being thrown around the ground - no fan segregation in those days.
9 Posted 05/09/2019 at 11:46:00
That place was a flat over a fruit and veg shop, and there was a permanent smell of seemingly rotting veg around the entrance staircase. I hated it at first compared to Norris Green, until the convenience of being near Goodison kicked in, plus Stanley Park was just down the road to play footie. It was just great being able to walk down to the game.
Plus, there were three good chippies nearby.
10 Posted 05/09/2019 at 12:14:54
11 Posted 05/09/2019 at 12:19:04
There's a man who knows the important factors in choosing where to live!
12 Posted 05/09/2019 at 12:58:42
And with cushions at 5p rental, we didn't need fan forums or polls to gauge popular opinion either.
13 Posted 05/09/2019 at 13:02:52
Brent, the chippies were Stan's (English), Charlie's (Greek), and Yee's (Chinese), so it was international cuisine.
14 Posted 05/09/2019 at 13:20:10
15 Posted 05/09/2019 at 13:26:58
Not quite, the system was a bit too good and the drainage couldn't cope with the melting snow and ice, so it WAS efficient but, as you say it was lifted, the drainage sorted, and the heating system was replaced. As I said earlier, thanks to undersoil heating we were able to play all our home games in the Big Freeze of 62-63, thus avoiding a fixture pile-up and also keeping the team match fit in the process. As winters go, that was a cracker!!
I don't know whether it was Everton or another club but I recall that one club had laid its electric cable a bit too shallow and it was damaged when the pitch was ''forked'' to allow water to drain away. Might have been Arsenal, they had a system installed after we did.
And look at the number of men wearing hats in the fifties and even the sixties. Oh to have been a milliner in those days. They must have been minted.
16 Posted 05/09/2019 at 13:33:19
17 Posted 05/09/2019 at 13:39:23
And my memory is still just about holding up! But I can't remember if I had any breakfast.
18 Posted 05/09/2019 at 13:43:44
19 Posted 05/09/2019 at 13:57:44
Sounded hellish until you mentioned wagon wheels. That little school snack favourite changes everything. Lucky man you never had it so good.
20 Posted 05/09/2019 at 14:46:59
Dad started to give me money after that for the Boys Pen, and people who complain about restricted views should have tried the Boys Pen in 1954. After I started work I paid for myself and stood in the Gwladys Street end for a number of seasons before getting a season ticket in the Paddock lower stand.
Living in Canada now but get back often, but I think that being in the crowd standing in the Gwladys Street End the game seemed more exciting than being up in the stands.
21 Posted 05/09/2019 at 15:11:57
Hot pork pies that the juice used to run down your sleeve, cushions for stands seats that were used to vent your anger and toilets where you had to get your boots wet.
Yet since then we've barely had it so good!
What's our name?
22 Posted 05/09/2019 at 15:12:38
All of this is fresh in my mind because I have just finished reading Gavin Bucklands excellent book ‘Money Cant Buy Us Love which is essential reading for any Everton fan, or indeed any football fan, interested in the sixties.
23 Posted 05/09/2019 at 15:36:09
24 Posted 05/09/2019 at 16:06:41
Everton had won the first leg 3-1 in Glasgow and the game at Goodison ended 1-1, if a sober Glaswegian attended the game I never saw him, they were all tanked out of their skulls having drank all day in the centre of the city.
25 Posted 05/09/2019 at 16:08:15
Brings a smile when reading about the "good" old days.
Yeah, attending games at Goodison is now far more enjoyable than it was back in the 70's. But for me, going to away games back then was a true show of courage. Games were not all ticket, just get the special, stick together and strictly limit the amount booze, because as sure as night follows day, there would be trouble. After getting the special to Euston, I remember getting the tube from Euston to Fulham Broadway, I'm sure it was 1978 for an early season game at Chelsea, fucking nightmare. We won but it was a very, very long day and we got home battered & bruised but victorious.
Now, everyone just goes to the game wearing their teams colours with little to no trouble what so ever. That for me is the biggest change when watching Everton, at either Goodison or when going to away games (obviously except when we play Millwall).
26 Posted 05/09/2019 at 16:10:59
27 Posted 05/09/2019 at 16:18:29
As John Snr says, we DID have undersoil heating in place but, I don't know if you remember that Winter, it was so severe that a fledgling system like we had could not counter the extreme temperatures. Postponements were also due to safety concerns due to the frozen roads and pavements around Goodison and other grounds..
This (below) from the article '
''Season 1962-63, When Winter Came To Britain''
'All went on as per normal until just before Christmas, but the weather turned and football, which, at the time, had very little of the technology that keeps matches going through the winter. Goodison Park had become the first English ground to fit under-soil heating in 1958 (although Arsenal had experimented, unsuccessfully, with it beforehands), but the overwhelming majority of clubs were completely unprepared for the cold snap.
A cold snap, in fact, would probably be understating things somewhat. Most of Britain stayed under a thick blanket of snow, and average temperatures stayed at around –6° C. It was the coldest winter in Britain since 1740. The biggest single casualty was the Third Round of the FA Cup, which took sixty-six days to complete and involved a total of two hundred and sixty-one postponements. The FA Cup final between Manchester United and Leicester City was eventually played on the 25th of May, with the two-legged final of the League Cup between Birmingham City and Aston Villa being played either side of it.'
Actually John, if you want a trip down memory lane, have a look at this ToffeeWeb thread about that season, 62-63. Did you go the game then? You don't look old enough! I know you showed me your copy of the book you mention,‘Money Can't Buy Us Love', in the Excelsior. I'll have to get a copy.
28 Posted 05/09/2019 at 16:21:01
What a dickhead! I forgot to add the link..
29 Posted 05/09/2019 at 16:29:07
At the final whistle we'd be straight out the gate and running like the clappers to meet the drivers coming back and get paid. They always paid more when we'd won even though they knew we'd probably been the match ourselves. All the stories about us slashing tyres and stuff was bollocks. It would have lost us all our regulars.
30 Posted 05/09/2019 at 16:36:34
PS hope your week in New Brighton went well! Did you have a paddle?
32 Posted 05/09/2019 at 16:58:09
In return for one of those 1960s scarves, where the blue and white ran along the length rather than across, I shall desist from informing the Trading Standards people.
Really! Some people!!!
33 Posted 05/09/2019 at 17:10:00
34 Posted 05/09/2019 at 17:11:41
Regarding the Rangers game I worked for Pelling, Stanley, & Green [John West Salmon] and on my home on the 26 bus prior to going to the match, there was a gang of Rangers fans who had obviously been drinking in 'town' all day, shouting as the bus travelled along Scotland Road "Where do the Beatles live"?
My 'spec' in those days was behind the Park End goal, and there was a disturbance in the stand above us and I'm surprised that no-one was pushed over the edge. I think that Denis Stevens scored for Everton and Ralph Brand for Rangers, but I wouldn't put money on it.
35 Posted 05/09/2019 at 17:29:38
Because I was 16 and only 5'5", I either had to sit on the barrier or stand at the front by the wall. Most of the time I got there for 1.30 and sat on the rail reading the programme. Bit scary when we scored though, more often then not I was pushed off.
I was so made up when I got my first season ticket in the July. Although, having just left school, my mum had to pay for it and I gave her 50p a week back.
36 Posted 05/09/2019 at 17:31:53
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38 Posted 05/09/2019 at 18:20:52
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40 Posted 05/09/2019 at 18:40:42
We played an FA Cup tie at Sunderland in 1964, the pitch had loads of straw on the top, all the straw was taken to the sides around the pitch.
Sunderland was at the top of the second division, a very good team going to win promotion. Charley Hurley Captain.
We were 3-0 down at half-time, eventually we scored one, think Brian Harris scored. 3-1.
41 Posted 05/09/2019 at 18:44:21
And ''Joe'' who, with his mate, carried a board on their shoulders around the pitch before the match, advertising forthcoming fights at the Stadium. As kids we'd shout ''Alright Joe'' as if we knew him. Fair play, he'd always wave and shout back.
42 Posted 05/09/2019 at 18:44:26
The very small dug outs and the sub always wearing a sleeping bag to keep his legs warm.
The tango coloured tracksuits that the ball boys wore and the greeting of a goal or players coming onto the pitch with a toilet roll thrown from the Street end.
I did hear one tale about a minibus turning up and when greeted with mind your vehicle mate, the fans were utd and said piss off, or words to that effect, on returning back most of the windows were put through and the tyres either slashed or let down.
The chicken wire in the Park end and a thin wall of police keeping rival fans apart.
Could be wrong but certain below the Park end there was no divide for the toilets and refreshments at half time.
But at least back then, we did get toffee mints thrown into the crowd and not chocolate eclairs, think we are back to Everton mints again.
At least back then you could take a proper banner into the ground with sticks on, outlawed now expect for one ground not too far away.
Finally for the good old Gwladys street regulars, the famous guy outside the ground with his Jesus saves placard, with a sermon thrown in for good measure.
43 Posted 05/09/2019 at 18:55:33
As regards the undersoil heating I have a recollection that the club made three attempts to install it (sounds like our ground moves!) before they got it right. As you and John Snr mention there was the 1958 version which was ripped up because the wires and the inability to put a fork into the turf caused drainage problems. The second attempt in the early to mid sixties failed for similar reasons.
I can remember the pitch being covered in sand to soak up the excess water around 66/67. When the second version was ripped up, I think they had no undersoil heating for a number of years until the seventies. I remember a game in December 1968 against Southampton when John Hurst scored the winner with a shot from outside the box. The pitch was bone hard because of the frost.
There was also a postponement later that month owing to frost. That was a game against Wolves scheduled for 28th December 1968. It was rearranged for Tuesday 28th January 1969 when we won 4-0 with an outstanding performance. There were other postponements later that season including the fifth round cup tie against Bristol Rovers which was postponed from Saturday 8th February to the following Wednesday evening when we won 1-0 with a goal from Joe Royle on a rock hard surface.
44 Posted 05/09/2019 at 19:21:23
When the specials were actually running, lots of memories of literally fighting to get on the bus, the buses being packed like sardines and people hanging precariously onto the pole on the open platform at the back. Must admit, I've done that myself a few times. No health and safety considerations back then!
45 Posted 05/09/2019 at 19:58:44
46 Posted 05/09/2019 at 20:09:56
That's 54 years ago.
In all those years I've only used the bogs once for a shite.
(Park End, 2008)
Can any TWers beat that?
47 Posted 05/09/2019 at 20:21:37
There used to be a joke about Joey in the sixties: A fella went into the dole and asked was there any vacancies? The clerk said "You are just too late; there was six vacancies five minutes ago but Joey Barrett came in and took the six of them."
48 Posted 05/09/2019 at 20:30:38
49 Posted 05/09/2019 at 20:35:03
When we got back to our car, the Man Utd fans were literally crying their eyes out!
We gave them dogs abuse! The van was fucking wrecked!
50 Posted 05/09/2019 at 20:38:13
Syrup of figs or senokot should shift it.
51 Posted 05/09/2019 at 22:00:50
Like the ''tramp'' who went round town wearing a scarlet Army dress jacket. Always used to see him near the Adelphi, when the Adelphi was the Hotel to be seen in! (Not like now, apparently).
And the disabled ex-servicemen's 'band' who used to play behind the Empire for small change. Poor sods, fought for their country, and then their country abandoned them.
The Rolls-Royce/Bentley car showrooms in Renshaw St. How mad is that?
Getting a bit off topic now, blame the Rioja. (But that's what makes ToffeeWeb the great site that it is, going off at a tangent!)
52 Posted 05/09/2019 at 22:16:47
53 Posted 05/09/2019 at 22:22:58
54 Posted 05/09/2019 at 22:31:13
55 Posted 06/09/2019 at 00:24:05
56 Posted 06/09/2019 at 11:42:38
57 Posted 06/09/2019 at 19:29:59
Joey was also a member of ‘The former boxers association' – not sure what sort of record he had in the ring.
58 Posted 06/09/2019 at 19:48:50
61 Posted 07/09/2019 at 10:49:19
A pal of mine was the groundsman for a local non-league team, and was called in one frosty Saturday morning by the club chairman to assist the ref with a pitch inspection. The chairman said he thought the pitch was fine, although it would be great if the game were to be postponed as they only had 8 fit players.
The groundsman took the ref to the centre circle and each penalty area, his garden fork went into the ground like a hot knife through butter. The ref declared his satisfaction, the groundsman said he was pleased, but then told the ref he had a concern, a 10m strip by the stand which never received sunlight. They wandered over to two spots where the fork nearly bent as it hit the ground. Unsafe, match postponed.
The ref left, the chairman thanked the groundsman and told him to go home. “Will do” said the groundsman “but Ill just go and take out those two pieces of slate I buried, before I go”.
62 Posted 08/09/2019 at 10:46:26
My first season was 1958-59 and first game was v West Ham. I think it ended 2-2. I lived in West Derby and usually went on my bike which was stored in a backyard off Bullens Road. You'd see signs down the back entries: Bikes; 6d men, 3d boys (girls and women were quite thin on the ground in those days) and women would stand in Walton Lane shouting "Bikes stored".
Matches started at 3:15 pm and ended at 4:55. It was 3 pm for the London clubs to allow them to catch an earlier train home. 3 pm games ended at 4:40; none of this added time nonsense. Then it was on my bike to race home to do my paper round (which included three Liverpool players).
Most of the crowd wore hats or caps and the majority seemed to smoke. You'd get clouds of cigarette smoke drifting across the pitch and pin-points of lighters and matches all around the ground as people lit their fags.
A programme was 3d and, in the days before multi-media coverage, was the main source of club information. Does anyone remember the small classified ad which was always on the back inside sports page of the Echo on a Friday evening? It simply listed the match, KO time and prices of admission. Liverpool did one, too.
63 Posted 08/09/2019 at 14:10:52
Two evening games at Goodison that I can recall are: Bury 6:00 pm, when Everton won 3-0, Derek Mayers scoring twice on his debut, Dave Hickson also netting. The other was West Ham United 5:30.pm, a 2-1 defeat (on Grand National Day), Eddie Wainwright scoring for Everton and Harry Hooper grabbing the winner, again I'm relying on my fading memory, but both fixtures were Second Division games. I know nothing of kick off times at London games, but the daylight hours must have governed their games also.
64 Posted 08/09/2019 at 14:47:12
65 Posted 08/09/2019 at 15:31:32
This froma ToffeeWeb article,
"First Undersoil Heating: The first undersoil heating installed at a British league ground was installed at Goodison Park in May 1958. The initial system of electric heating wires proved to be a bit of a problem, as the drains could not cope with the excess water. It was torn up and replaced by a new system in 1960. As technology advanced, this was later replaced by the current system of hot water pipes, which works like a charm."
This is from Four Four Two magazine, referring to the 1962-63 season.
''Much of England was under a blanket of snow, the price of fresh food soared by 30 per cent, and in many areas the mains water supply froze. The English game wasnt really ready for such a drastic, sudden crisis.''
''Some football clubs still didnt have floodlights, so the FA urged clubs to play in the afternoon to avoid power cuts. Only a few grounds (Goodison Park among them) had undersoil heating. And the science of groundsmanship was still in its infancy.''
66 Posted 08/09/2019 at 16:17:37
An uncle of mine told me that Everton wanted to explore the possibility of undersoil heating before the Second World War, but were deterred by the Football League authorities. That may or may not be true, but he was an avid Evertonian and was quite knowledgeable, he was in fact the main reason that I am an Evertonian.
Hi Bill  I got your number wrong, [59 & 60] have been deleted.
67 Posted 08/09/2019 at 16:50:51
I also recall reading years ago that Everton wanted to try undersoil heating years before we did but cant remember the reason why we didnt.
I know pitches nowadays are so much better. I often think “ How good would Alex Young be on that pitch” If only
68 Posted 08/09/2019 at 16:55:16
John. I think the phased earlier kick offs were in pre floodlight days.
When I started going in 1958 the lights were in place and all starts were either 3 pm or 3.15pm.
Ray. The undersoil heating had been removed before the 1962-3 season prior to a new system being installed. Trials were being held at Bellfield as far as I can remember.
During the freeze the club had coke burning braziers all over the pitch in a failed attempt to thaw it out. I think some had been borrowed from St Helens RLFC.
I've just cheated and looked up the '62-'63 results. It shows a gap of over 2 months in home games. 15th Dec v Burnley followed by 23rd Feb v Wolves.
I'll see if I can dig some old programmes out.
69 Posted 08/09/2019 at 17:15:25
FourFourTwo magazine also say that we had a system in situ in 62-63. I have always thought that it was there in that season. (But I forgot the year I got married so you can no longer take my word for anything!)
Games were called off due to freezing condition outside the ground and also the fact that all the pipes inside Goodison were frozen so there were no working toilets etc., something similar happened Boxing Day 2013, I think that's the right year!!
I was going to visit my sister in Bowring Park when it came on the radio that the game was cancelled due to frozen pipes. Oh! How we larfed!
Whatever, it was a bloody cold year, especially in a house with one coal fire in the sitting room.Nowt upstairs. Ice on the inside of the windows and an overcoat on top of the bed to try to keep warm. Those were the days, eh?
70 Posted 08/09/2019 at 17:16:53
71 Posted 08/09/2019 at 17:37:34
Hi Bill  I was serving in the army in Cyprus when the floodlights were first used at Goodison [October 9th 1957] the games staged on Saturdays may well have been 3:00 pm or 3:15 pm kick-offs, but there were a number of mid-week games that would have been evening kick off's, and I think in those early floodlit matches Everton favoured a 7:30 kick off. I'm sorry I seem to have added a few years to your age [unintentionally].
72 Posted 08/09/2019 at 17:51:09
From memory the 'big freeze' started with a blizzard on Boxing Day 1962. There was no more snow but the temperatures stayed at, or below, freezing for a couple of months.
The snow was cleared but life went on. I can recall a few instances of frozen water pipes at Goodison but nothing which would have lasted 8 or 9 weeks. The terraces and surrounding streets would have been well cleared of ice in the early days/weeks.
I was in my last year at school and getting there and back wasn't a problem but our football pitches were frozen rock hard! It was a lot warmer in school than at home. We, too, had just the one fire, downstairs. The upstairs fires were only lit if you were ill and at death's door.
In front of the gas oven in the kitchen was the place to get dressed for school. The edge had already been taken off the cold by my elder sister who had already been up and out for work at Littlewoods Pools.
Even Ron Yeats, who lived over the road, didn't have central heating but he was from Aberdeen so was used to it.
The floodlights were installed one year before my debut!!
73 Posted 08/09/2019 at 19:47:31
“The surrounding streets would have been well cleared of ice in the early days/weeks.”
Christ, Bill, where did you live? Knightsbridge? Snow and ice was left to households to clear, the Council did fuck-all. As lads, we had “slides” on every pavement we could find. 😁
Parents went mad because walking for the bus was... er, eventful, shall we say.
74 Posted 08/09/2019 at 20:16:11
Everton won the first game 2-0 and lost the second 3-2 so won the cup 4-3 on aggregate.
In the second game, Everton fielded a 15-year-old boy at outside-right who became a great player back in his native Scotland, Andy Penman. He became homesick at Everton and was allowed to go home.
75 Posted 08/09/2019 at 20:43:32
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80 Posted 09/09/2019 at 01:24:30
Does anyone else remember wood fires in 44 gal drums in rows across pitch to keep it frost free? Volunteers kept them stoked throughout the night and all they got was free entry to the game.
I was deemed too young and not allowed to volunteer.
81 Posted 09/09/2019 at 03:06:27
Today's pitches look better than they are. Coupled with today's boots, they are a bit too soft and spongy for my liking. And not the best for my ankles and knees.
The balls however are amazing. I used to think l was special being able to bend the ball for my famous free kicks... now anyone can do it (with a bit of technique of course). When l was a kid, l used to dread playing with a wet ball.
82 Posted 09/09/2019 at 07:35:00
I first started going in mid sixties, some amazing memories raked up here.
Forgive me if it's already been raised but I remember for years during the first half some one would walk around the pitch with a huge satchel of cash full of turnstile takings from the Bullens Road side of the ground.
Us young lads without a penny to our name would plan how we were going to take him out at the next home game and make off with the takings!! I'm sure this went on till the 80s.
83 Posted 09/09/2019 at 09:06:12
84 Posted 09/09/2019 at 09:10:25
85 Posted 09/09/2019 at 09:28:36
Mind back then chairmen were not well known as they are today, there was Bob Lord at Burnley he owned a carpet company. TV Williams was chairmen at Liverpool when they signed Shankly.
86 Posted 09/09/2019 at 10:42:26
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88 Posted 09/09/2019 at 15:27:55
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92 Posted 09/09/2019 at 16:40:36
Sorry yes Bob Lord was a butcher as was Louis Edwards at Man Utd, must have had a brain freeze saying Bob Lord owned a Carpet company. I vaguely remember the South African team coming over and as was stated some of them played with no boots. When I think of the side that played in that 10-4 defeat it beggars belief that such a talented side could lose so heavily.
See even for the younger supporters we still managed to cock up big style even then, so don't think it just started 25 years ago.
93 Posted 09/09/2019 at 16:49:13
94 Posted 09/09/2019 at 17:22:15
I was at that game. I was in my middle teens and went with my Uncle and his mates who were a lot older.
We drove there and went to a pub in Leeds and I remember local youths continually popping their heads in trying to see if they can find any Scousers. They were the times we lived then.
95 Posted 09/09/2019 at 21:12:21
I started going in the late 70s
Things that were better back then with my rose coloured spectacles on.
Bob Latchford banging in the goals, Martin Dobson like a rolls royce, Dave Thomas crossing the ball with his socks rolled down,Mick Lyons warming up by heading the ball away 40 yards. John Bailey doing around the world in the warm ups, Andy Kings Derby goal.
The cheap admission price. Programmes and cushions included with your season ticket.
Being able to move around the terraces to get a better spec.
The atmosphere especially night games. No Diving.
Jimmy hill over Neville or Spit the dog all day.
A proper cup of tea from a massive pot, Bovril and pork pie oozing with gelatine.
The things better now:
The speed and technical standard of football is better though I do miss a good tackle.
The pitches are immaculate all season.
It's a family inclusive day out albeit an expensive one.
No smoking although the bogs in the park end are always rammed with smokers in the cubicals.
Sitting down, don't think I could be bothered standing up for 2hrs anymore.
To answer Eugene's question 41 years season ticket holder and a couple of years attending before that and no number 2s at the ground although I have stood in a few walking over the park beforehand.
96 Posted 09/09/2019 at 21:54:48
Can't believe i was that much of a fanatic, standing or sitting on the ground and I didn't even have a cell phone or tablet or any other electronic device to keep me amused, just the usual chatter and joking with fellow Evertonians.
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