Having read hundreds of posts and contributed one myself, it's pretty clear that the vast majority of us do not wish to see particular players wear the shirt again. Some call for a huge, wholesale cull; some want to see some of the youngsters given a chance. Lots — if not most — myself included, bemoan the lack of fight, spirit, guts or whatever.
Serious question now: how would the fans of bringing the kids in to replace the blatantly obvious shirkers and mercenaries feel if Ancelloti did just that, failed miserably and got us relegated? How would the fans of 'hungry' players with a point to prove feel if they were brought in with the same result?
Do we as Everton fans expect too much due to our 'istory? Yeah, I know, more than one question, but how do others feel?
I think that, especially since Moshiri appeared with his money, we have collectively expected too much too soon.
A lot of people on here very similar age-wise to me (62) remember the good old days when even some of the most awful players ever to pull on an Everton shirt did at least attempt to cover their respective inadequacies with plenty of effort. This is what I miss most from the majority of players over the last 5 to 10 years.
Would we get, and or accept, lots of effort with just the odd occasional high point if it meant the big R from the Premier League? On reflection, I think I probably would. The club is so far behind the best sides, it's laughable to think that, under the present regime, with all its shortcomings, we can ever bridge the gap.
I don't include Ancelloti in this, he has a winning mentality that already seems to be creating friction with some of our senior players. If, as I sincerely hope, Carlo can begin to turn this wayward club around, all well and good. But, if he can't and the wasters who have already burned through three or four managers get their way, we could be in big, big trouble. Or does he get shut of said wasters, throw in some academy kids with a sprinkling of lower-league hungry players?
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1 Posted 08/01/2020 at 20:19:50
It will be very interesting to see what Carlo does v Brighton.
Three youngsters, three fellas from the crowd, or starting with eight players would be more palatable to the supporters than those three starting.
I'm not interested in giving them another chance, or the chance to make amends. They've had plenty and failed every time.
2 Posted 08/01/2020 at 20:26:41
Accept relegation? Absolute lunacy sorry and I'm exactly the same age as the author!
3 Posted 08/01/2020 at 20:34:17
There are 28 players in our first team squad with just the two injured, albeit engine room players, but surely the manager can come up with some combination that will work in the short-term to get the points required for survival. I hope he can anyway as regardless of the line-ups, at this juncture relegation is not an option.
4 Posted 08/01/2020 at 20:36:15
5 Posted 08/01/2020 at 21:23:34
The past is the past, and sadly outer history in football terms is decades ago, and we cant wallow in past glories.
On the playing side along with the new culture, the playing squads at all levels, must be taught and play with the Everton playing values.
Sunday was unacceptable, unforgivable and Im sure that the fans will make their feelings know about the total dissatisfaction with the performance during, attitude after the final whistle: totally disrespectful to the fans, coupled with the yellow bellies revolt.
Fabian Delph, will be finished and maybe hes defaulted for the option of not having to face the wrath of the crowd at GP, again.
Siggy, Schneiderlin, Walcott, have consistently betrayed the team.
So what Amess for Carlo Ancelloti to sort out. Will this story ultimately, have a happy ending?
Terrible but hopefully this show of emotion and rightfully so by supporters, will drive home once and for all, that mediocrity and dereliction of duty on the park, wont be tolerated.
Id not be surprised that theyll e songs, taunts, paper and white hankies and booing v Brighton.
6 Posted 09/01/2020 at 16:52:05
7 Posted 09/01/2020 at 16:58:30
8 Posted 09/01/2020 at 17:03:13
9 Posted 09/01/2020 at 17:10:10
10 Posted 09/01/2020 at 17:19:57
Whatever it is it can't include Schneiderlin and most certainly not with Sigurdsson and in all likelihood only two youngsters at the very most, unless you are counting DCL, Kean and Holgate as youngsters.
11 Posted 09/01/2020 at 17:20:35
So in answer to the title at the top of the page, I dont think Walcott or Schneiderlin should ever play for Everton again? Maybe Delph, just for that pathetic antagonist reply he gave to an Evertonian, but the two I mentioned first are cowards, so I hope I never see them in a blue shirt again.
12 Posted 09/01/2020 at 17:20:41
The other thing is its not set in stone that we play the shirkers or the kids. If Carlo decided to play the kids for three or four games and they were a bag of shite presumably hed start playing the shirkers again
13 Posted 09/01/2020 at 17:22:55
14 Posted 09/01/2020 at 17:34:13
15 Posted 09/01/2020 at 17:38:37
I go to the match these days and it seems the younger generation are in the minority or is it just me ?
16 Posted 09/01/2020 at 17:43:33
Shouting the odds is good fun, but if we're taking this seriously, we have to think about what consequences were prepared to accept.
17 Posted 09/01/2020 at 17:48:26
18 Posted 09/01/2020 at 17:55:42
Watch the top sides, if a player makes a mistake, even if it doesn't lead to a goal, somebody is balling them out. We don't have a single player the rest look to during a game for a calming word, or a rocket when somebody needs one!
19 Posted 09/01/2020 at 21:01:18
Dont think, is wrong, I know neither of these players would be missed, but maybe its better to say it quietly in case I sound like Im shouting the odds!
Come on Paul T, you seriously dont ever want to see either of them in a blue shirt anymore do you mate? Even with nobody else, at least the kids would put their bodys on the line, something we witnessed at Anfield last Sunday unfortunately.
20 Posted 09/01/2020 at 21:20:52
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