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Paul Kernot
1 Posted 02/07/2021 at 07:14:03
This is a more interesting one. No doubt they know we haven't had any other offers for him. He's still pretty raw. An option to buy at $35mil would represent a good each way bet to them. Interesting to watch this one play out.
Colin Glassar
2 Posted 02/07/2021 at 07:30:56
I’d bring him back and tell him if he plays well he might get his dream move next summer. Time to play hardball.
Alan J Thompson
3 Posted 02/07/2021 at 07:32:20
No! They either know how good he is now or they just want some temporary cover on the cheap. Bring him back for the new manager to look at or move him on permanently.
Derek Knox
4 Posted 02/07/2021 at 07:55:12
Agree with the comments above, for far too long we have been too 'soft in the Transfer Market' letting players go for next to nothing (usually U-23's) or paying well over the odds for Donkeys, who have proved to be a total waste of a shirt, and money to boot!
Brian Williams
5 Posted 02/07/2021 at 08:26:27
Agree completely that we should NOT let PSG have him on another season long loan unless it includes an obligation to buy not an option to buy.
If they baulk I'd bite the bullet and bring him back.
Can't be having our eyes wiped by these clubs wanting players on the cheap.
Tony Everan
6 Posted 02/07/2021 at 10:04:06
This time he has to be sold on a permanent deal, we need money coming in to reinvest our forward line. Also to massage any FFP rules.

As Brian above says, a loan deal will only be palatable if there is a contractual obligation to buy next summer at a pre agreed fee.

Howard Don
7 Posted 02/07/2021 at 10:12:53
Agree with most posters. No way we should sanction another loan deal. If those who say we’re at serious risk of falling foul of FFP are correct, then we need to bring in money before we buy. We should dig our heels in and threaten to bring him back if PSG don’t start talking a permanent deal.
Barry Rathbone
8 Posted 02/07/2021 at 10:22:57
He's not a bad player a big athletic type who should have done better in the prem but his performances never matched the brochure description. Looks the sort to make a good living fannying around in euro leagues without ever being truly committed

Can see why PSG aren't pushing the boat out for him

Frank Wade
9 Posted 02/07/2021 at 10:43:23
Agree, no point in having expensive recruits out on permanent loans, unless we were getting 10m plus wages each season. This time next year it would be another extension and, Hey Presto, his contract is running down.

Hope I'm wrong, but I haven't seen enough to convince me, he can play a role here.

John Pickles
10 Posted 02/07/2021 at 10:51:58
Yeah sure, as long as Mbappé spends the season with us with the same option to buy.
John Chambers
11 Posted 02/07/2021 at 12:27:58
Either sell and use the money to reinvest or bring back and give him the season to establish himself
Si Cooper
12 Posted 02/07/2021 at 12:55:02
Don’t see any advantage to us to opt for another loan and the possibility of a deal next summer. Zero chance for us to build a rapport with the player should they decide not to buy in the end.
PSG can’t be strapped for cash can they? Let them pay our asking price now, not what they judge it should be with another 12 months of his contract up in smoke (as far as we are concerned).
Ian Horan
13 Posted 02/07/2021 at 13:27:15
Kean shouldn't be going anywhere on loan, any loan just reduces the length of time left on his contract. PSG are paying €60M for Hakimi a right-back.

Tell Kean, PSG and Kean's agent we expect him to play for Everton unless our value is meet: £50M and a percentage of any future transfer fee.

Just for once, Everton, act like a big club in the transfer market...

Trevor Powell
14 Posted 02/07/2021 at 14:04:35
Stop being mugs by agreeing to anything from PSG unless it is a permanent buy. Kean himself needs to realise they are playing with his future.

PSG with all their money think they can push their so-called inferiors around like this. They only want him as backup to Neymar, Mbappe and Icardi and to give them a rest in a poor league by playing against weak first division teams!

Barry Rathbone
15 Posted 02/07/2021 at 14:05:52
Trouble is no one seems to want him.

Scoring for PSG in the French League might impress Evertonians but cuts no ice with hard-nosed elite clubs, therefore we should take the hit and cash in for what we can. He clearly doesn't want to set foot in this place again.

£20-30M would have him off the books in no time.

Mike Gaynes
16 Posted 02/07/2021 at 14:21:49
I say bring him back. We need cover up front and pace in the side. If Rafa can get a tune out of him, Kean provides both. And if not, and he goes back into sulk mode, plenty of time to sell him in January.

Keeping him takes one item off our shopping list for this summer. Tell PSG it's either buy or bye-bye.

James Flynn
17 Posted 02/07/2021 at 14:55:30
Mike (16) - Agree on all.

Keep him and let's see.

Paul Hewitt
18 Posted 02/07/2021 at 15:35:07
Sell DCL for £60 million (if anyone's daft enough to pay it). Then bring Kean back and make him your main striker. This lads got talent. Just need to play him.
John Keating
19 Posted 02/07/2021 at 15:39:55
No, just a straight no
If Kean wants out then he should just come out and say it
We don’t have to pay anything to him and he goes ONLY for top dollar
Please Everton no more “Mr Nice Guy”
John Cook
20 Posted 02/07/2021 at 15:50:38
How can you sell or loan him out when the new manager hasn't seen him? There's no rush.,Rafa should have a good look at him,see if he can improve his attitude both on and off the field and if he's still taking the piss by January off load him then.
Bill Hawker
21 Posted 02/07/2021 at 16:07:14
1) 30M+ outright sale. If not then:
2) Another loan with 30M+ option to purchase. If no option to purchase:
3) Bring him back as cover for DCL.

No loan with no potential purchase provision.

Matthew Williams
22 Posted 02/07/2021 at 16:12:32
Another sulky fucker who seemed to me that he didn't want to play for us...SELL.

Another on my list of fourteen that I want gone.

Whatever the fans want,the club will do the opposite...sigh.

Bill Gienapp
23 Posted 02/07/2021 at 17:44:16
This is absurd. I had high hopes for Kean, but if he doesn't want to be here, fine - his agent can tell PSG that they need to pony up. We're not here to make everyone else's lives easier.
Steven Telford
24 Posted 02/07/2021 at 18:05:06
Loan loan loan until its he goes into the last year of his contract, they must think we are mugs I hope they don't prove us to be.
David Pearl
25 Posted 02/07/2021 at 18:22:29
A loan is fine as long as the loan fee is high and with all his wages paid.

However if they want any purchase clause it shouldn't be just an option, it should be a certainty. Cheeky bastards.

Barry Rathbone
26 Posted 02/07/2021 at 18:24:26
The trouble with effectively forcing him to return is he looks a typical "down tools" merchant someone to go through the motions without being arsed and fans will spot it instantly. The dogs abuse will be unmerciful and his value will plummet as "overrated and difficult" becomes bracketed with his name.

He couldn't do it under "I'll say what you want to hear" Carlo so Benitez and his notorious "my way or the highway" style is unlikely to work.

Get what we can before it goes entirely tits up

Christy Ring
27 Posted 02/07/2021 at 22:09:15
Paul #18 Are you for real, sell Calvert-Lewin and bring back Kean, I give up. PSG should be told buy him now, if not bring him back for next season.
Justin Doone
28 Posted 03/07/2021 at 08:01:40
Everton seek permanent sale or £15M loan fee.
Tony Everan
29 Posted 03/07/2021 at 09:13:11
No loans; sell Kean as we badly need to reinvest it to give us more threat going forward. Use the money (plus a fair chunk more) towards signing Jeremy Doku from Rennes and Perreira from West Brom.
Fran Mitchell
30 Posted 03/07/2021 at 09:22:31
The deal suggested is just illogical.

Everton want £45 million.

PSG are instead pushing for a loan, with an option to buy for £30 million at the end of the season - so £15 million less than we want now. And if he gets injured, or flops or anything else, we're stuck with him. If he flourishes and becomes one of Europe's top marksmen, we get hardly anything.

Tell Kean that, if he wants to go there, they should value him enough to pay a fee for him.

Denis Richardson
31 Posted 03/07/2021 at 09:22:48
New manager, new slate for players… no? I'd bring him back and let Rafa take a look.

He may well get him to contribute for us, which would save us a fortune and we can invest elsewhere – loads of positions need investment. Right-back and attacking midfield to name two immediately.

Coleman can only be backup and the likes of Iwobi need shifting.

Derek Thomas
32 Posted 03/07/2021 at 09:31:56
Tell both Kean & PSG to put up or shut up...listen son, If they want you and you want to go, tell them to put a decent bid in - or its back to Finch Farm for you.
Jason Li
33 Posted 03/07/2021 at 09:44:36
If he takes another 2nd loan and the total loan fees adds up to around 12-15 million, and they buy at £35 million on top of this next summer, then we should take it. But then, might as well sell now and say first installment payment £20 million and knock £2 million off total price to get it done so everyone can move on.

Better if we receive a little bit less money and still a good profit to quickly fund bringing in the right players for the right positions - we'll earn the money back and more in terms of entertainment, improved finishing positions, new player valuations may rise too (like Godfrey whose easily gone from £20 million to be worth £50 million).

Tony Everan
34 Posted 03/07/2021 at 15:51:23
Good news from Gbamin, he says he is “very fit “ and has been in training with his personal trainer the last two weeks in Spain. Being ready for the preseason games and getting them under his belt will be massive for him.
Sam Hoare
35 Posted 04/07/2021 at 10:24:55
Talking of loans, Wolves have apparently bagged Trincao from Barcelona. Very talented young winger I had an eye on. Think he could have been a decent option for us at right-wing. He may not hit the ground running but I would not be surprised to see him as the next Diogo Jota or Pedro Neto.

One reason I would have marginally preferred Nuno Santo to Benitez is there are so many good young Portuguese players coming through currently.

Justin Doone
36 Posted 04/07/2021 at 20:57:49
Can we sell the very fit Gbamin before he succumbs to.. too late.

Simple point, we can not rely, no, in fact its better to presume he's not going to be available forever the season.

Bring in better replacements now, ASAP. Come on Brands, what else have you been doing since January?

Gbamin, Delph, Mina, James, Bernard have all suffered medium to long term reoccurring injuries. With a small, average squad already, we need better, not cover, but much, much better first team starters.

Drew O’Neall
37 Posted 05/07/2021 at 22:10:55
The loan has been a success, his value has doubled, if not tripled.

If they won’t meet the price someone else will or we bring him back and bench him.

Sorry Moise, we can’t risk playing you and reducing your value.

Paul Hewitt
38 Posted 06/07/2021 at 10:37:43
Talks of a 40 million deal being done soon.
Alan J Thompson
39 Posted 06/07/2021 at 10:49:50
In the unlikely event they are strapped for cash it needs only to be payment by installment. I would hope nobody at Everton finds any of this difficult but if so then have a chat with our past-master Chairman. There's good reason it's called the Never-never.
Brian Murray
40 Posted 06/07/2021 at 11:01:23
Would trust him to do the shopping! He’s probably come back with 3 magic beans
Brian Williams
41 Posted 06/07/2021 at 11:13:04
I think there's a misunderstanding of how transfer fees are paid.
My understanding is that a club paying £40m for a player never pay in one lump sum but pay in installments over the course of the contract.
So I think talk of getting a £40m wad in a oner is wide of the mark.
Alan J Thompson
42 Posted 06/07/2021 at 11:26:44
Brian(#41); I've always thought that it is done under a similar system to a Letter of Credit through a Bank hence Everton, under Moyes and Kenwright, rarely buying players in time to start preseason training as the Bank needed paying before they would agree to extending credit. The situation changing somewhat as Mr Moshiri now stands guarantor.
Danny O’Neill
43 Posted 06/07/2021 at 12:00:17
Wasn't sure where to put this, as it's kind of Everton and transfer related, just for interest, I see Gerrard has taken John Lundstram to Rangers. European stage for him albeit only the qualifying stages to start with. Good luck.

I thought that might have been somewhere Barkley could have ended up, including Celtic, but guess there'd be a wage issue there.

David Midgley
44 Posted 06/07/2021 at 12:08:33
Did PSG pay a loan fee for his first season ?

Maybe we should change our name to Axminster F.C. everyone seems to walk all over us.

Slightly off but Leicester have signed Patson Daka,
who ? 22yrs. old Played for Salzburg Red Bulls he scored 34 goals in 42 appearances. They also signed22 year ols Boub. Soumare , midfielder who played for Lille's winning team. Clubs are doing business. Negotiations will have been going on for a while. Other clubs are moving, the new boss should have a good idea about the players he's got.

I hope Rafa has been using his time away from club football to be checking out young players on the continent and Marcel too.
It's behoped that they're not thinking like an old violin they'll put some new resin on the strings and get a better tune out of them.

Tony Abrahams
45 Posted 06/07/2021 at 12:20:47
I’ve heard he won’t be getting that much money, which makes me think it’s maybe why Ancellotti decided to leave.
Robert Tressell
46 Posted 06/07/2021 at 12:50:10
David, Daka and Soumare look tailor made for Leicester. Daka is like a younger version of Vardy and will inherit that role in due course. Soumare is yet another high quality addition to a high quality midfield.

It's another case of Leicester going for young players who look a good fit for Champions League football. Seems an eminently sensible approach - since you're unlikely to make the top 4 with players who wouldn't be at home in the Champions League. Modest fees too, for the pair of them.

Notice they didn't go for the likes of Ings or Ward-Prowse - which would have set them back at least twice as much for players with less gas in the tank and lower ceilings.

As for Moise Kean, I think the simple fact is he just does not want to be here. And he won't dislodge DCL in order to get the games he needs to settle in. So it's best he departs. The fee will depend on whether anyone other than PSG is in for him, which is possibly unlikely with most clubs tightening belts post covid.

Tony Everan
47 Posted 06/07/2021 at 12:51:22
David 44. Leicester are extremely well organised and those two look like clever signings. They have been signed early with the minimum of drama or fuss ready for preseason and bedding into the squad. Leicester are going to have another very good season. Benitez and Brands have got some serious work to do to do this window to catch up.
Steve Brown
48 Posted 06/07/2021 at 13:22:06
If they want Kean on loan, Everton should demand a reciprocal loan from PSG next season - right back, midfield, right wing, or striker. That is what I would demand.
Robert Tressell
49 Posted 06/07/2021 at 13:32:27
Steve # 48, PSG have a very strong youth set up with lots of their prospects moving on at low cost and soon becoming stars in their own right. Dagba, the RB, looks like an excellent fit for us especially in a back 4. There's a few others too, such as the young striker Kalimuendo who had a good season on loan at Lens and could be as good as Kean anyway.

The trouble is if there's only one realistic taker for Kean then we're not well placed to make demands. The theory is certainly good though.

Brian Wilkinson
50 Posted 06/07/2021 at 16:27:15
Alan Myers tweeted, Everton are not interested in another loan for Kean.

About time we stood up and said pay up or return the player, they have had him already on loan, only takes an injury, then he ends up coming back to Everton, where we then end up treating his injury.

We either need to get cash for the player, or play hardball and return him to Everton.

Tony Everan
51 Posted 06/07/2021 at 17:04:02
They’ve had their loan to assess him and he has fired in 17 goals. I am glad to hear we are not entertaining another loan.
If there are no other interested clubs we will have to take a bit less than we want, but we need to move on and reinvest this money in our attack. Maybe Brands or Benitez likes one of their fringe players that could come this way as part of a deal, as Robert says Dagba looks a very good player.
Drew O’Neall
52 Posted 06/07/2021 at 17:20:26
Disappointed to read of Somare and Daka going to Leicester while we are linked with failures and has-beens.

It seems to me that a lad playing FIFA 21 would have a better knowledge of young up-and-coming European talent than our lot.

David Midgley
53 Posted 06/07/2021 at 23:35:46
I quite fancied Christophe Galtier for us, however, we have Rafa we'll have to go with the flow.

Galtier had great assistance from his chief scout. It was he who unearthed many of the good young, cheap players for Lille.

I posted on another thread that Marcel, now he is on the board, might not be spending too much time standing on an icy terrace, seeking out a hidden gem. Lille's ex-scout is Luis Campos, he could probably sniff out truffles in the Sahara. Check him out.

Last week, he was reportedly having talks with Arsenal. He is someone we should be trying to bring to Goodison Park. Others are obviously aware of his talents and he's probably got a little black book full of names.

Phil Wood
54 Posted 09/07/2021 at 17:27:26
Tell PSG to get stuffed.

Either they buy him or he can play for us until somebody does.

If he has improved that much, then I would rather have him here than scoring for them on loan.


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