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1 Posted 17/07/2021 at 19:54:48
2 Posted 17/07/2021 at 20:22:31
3 Posted 17/07/2021 at 20:24:41
4 Posted 17/07/2021 at 20:44:47
5 Posted 17/07/2021 at 20:56:29
6 Posted 17/07/2021 at 21:03:35
7 Posted 17/07/2021 at 22:22:51
I thought Olsen was very solid and offered serious competition.
8 Posted 17/07/2021 at 23:08:18
9 Posted 17/07/2021 at 23:10:18
10 Posted 17/07/2021 at 23:35:14
11 Posted 17/07/2021 at 23:58:49
12 Posted 18/07/2021 at 00:11:10
My main memory of him was when he moved from Stoke to Chelsea and seemed genuinely mystified that he wasn't getting regular playing time.
13 Posted 18/07/2021 at 00:25:41
14 Posted 18/07/2021 at 01:57:11
More interesting are the rumors all round social media that Townsend is signing on a free too, pretty underwhelming if true.
15 Posted 18/07/2021 at 02:10:46
16 Posted 18/07/2021 at 02:50:11
Most concerning rumors I've just seen everywhere is regarding Sigurdsson, it surely can't be true and it's just more vile people making up rumors.
17 Posted 18/07/2021 at 03:04:07
As for Townsend, he was once a pretty good player -- I remember a gamewinner against City a couple years ago -- and it seems to me he didn't miss a game for about five seasons, but honestly I had completely forgotten he was in the league. I looked him up and he's only 30. Hard to believe he's a ruptured duck so young.
18 Posted 18/07/2021 at 03:14:40
Begovic is another Stekelenburg, capable of brilliance and bungles, big, tall and experienced. With our budget, I'd be content with him as a Number 2.
Townsend? No thank you. Nice fellow, smart guy, exciting film reel but just not enough product from his games played.
19 Posted 18/07/2021 at 03:33:47
20 Posted 18/07/2021 at 05:23:20
21 Posted 18/07/2021 at 06:29:48
22 Posted 18/07/2021 at 07:12:28
Now for that new centre-half...
23 Posted 18/07/2021 at 07:42:21
As for Townsend, I'd have no issue signing him on a free for minimal wages; so long as we are signing a higher class right-winger as well. Townsend is a very decent and experienced pro who works hard, knows the Premier League, and has some decent numbers creatively, even if those chances were not always put away. He'd be a squad player (with a decent injury history) able to play on either wing who could be relied on to mostly give 7/10 performances. Last season, he put in 2.3 tackles per match (3rd highest at Crystal Palace), which tells you something about his work-rate, whilst also producing more key passes per match than Zaha.
24 Posted 18/07/2021 at 08:10:37
25 Posted 18/07/2021 at 08:42:18
Townsend on the bench? I'm ambivalent about that. I want us to sell Kean and spend wisely on a back-up striker and a good right-back with the bulk of our £££ going on a right-midfielder.
26 Posted 18/07/2021 at 09:37:16
27 Posted 18/07/2021 at 09:52:44
For me, he's not as good as King, but probably works harder for the team.
28 Posted 18/07/2021 at 10:02:52
I don't mind Townsend, Sam; whenever he's played against Everton, it is always noticeable that he works hard. What's Damari Grey like? I've heard he's also available for next to nothing or, in other words, cheap!
29 Posted 18/07/2021 at 10:04:41
30 Posted 18/07/2021 at 10:16:35
31 Posted 18/07/2021 at 10:18:11
32 Posted 18/07/2021 at 10:48:41
33 Posted 18/07/2021 at 11:05:51
34 Posted 18/07/2021 at 11:09:19
35 Posted 18/07/2021 at 11:12:11
36 Posted 18/07/2021 at 11:12:41
Interesting that in this summer's euros, 3 of our former reserves were involved: Stekelenberg no1 with Netherlands, Olsen no1 with Sweden, and Lossl as understudy at Denmark.
I guess Begovic being available for free is the key point, but would prefer someone who could provide more viable pressure on Pickford. Olsen did this and its effect was clear.
As for Townsend - I guess as a substitute, and for free, its not a bad move I mean, he's better than Iwobi...not that that says much
37 Posted 18/07/2021 at 11:15:21
It's just a shame we couldn't have shifted Iwobi to Palace unless he surprises us if he gets a chance as a No 10.
38 Posted 18/07/2021 at 11:17:40
Hopefully it allows us to pay the money to get a really good quality 3 or 4 players with more long term first XI credentials.
Whether it's Olsen, Begovic or Romero seems to matter very little.
Hopefully Townsend plays second fiddle to Bailey or Diaby or Neres in which case we probably forget he's on the books unless they get injured or spared league cup games.
39 Posted 18/07/2021 at 11:18:26
Not holding my breath with Iwobi, but remain open to being delighted. As always
40 Posted 18/07/2021 at 11:24:19
41 Posted 18/07/2021 at 11:34:32
For example if we can sell Bernard, whos on 120k, and replace with Townsend, who might be on 60k, that gives us an extra 60k per week to put towards signing Bailey or Diaby etc.
The worry may be that with stadium work starting that Moshiri is really closing the purse strings and that Townsend would be the only RW in. But hopefully thats not true!
42 Posted 18/07/2021 at 11:45:14
Your last paragraph sums it up perfectly the club ie Moshiri/Usmanov have to find £500,000 to build the stadium and jus as happened at Arsenal and Spurs the spending on the first team was greatly reduced. And given that unlike Arsenal and Spurs they weren't in the middle of a pandemic that has massively impacted on clubs finances. So they appointed a manager who they felt was a safe pair of hands to keep Everton in the Premier league as otherwise they would never recoup their outlay. So I predict there will be more bargain basement signings than ones that get us off our seats like James, who sadly looks like we will never see him play in a blue shirt only those lucky enough to have got tickets during lockdown will have had that pleasure.
43 Posted 18/07/2021 at 12:09:10
Getting the wage bill down to a level that is acceptable and helps keep the club within the bounds of FFP is a necessity and not a choice, if the club can keep its better players whilst signing cheaper squad options such as Begovic and Townsend to replace the more expensive ones is likely the reason why the club decided to go for Benitez and not gamble on somebody who wanted a huge pot to instantly alter the makeup of the squad.
That's the price the club has had to pay for throwing money away on quite ordinary players on huge pay packets and long contracts.
44 Posted 18/07/2021 at 12:10:01
45 Posted 18/07/2021 at 12:19:11
46 Posted 18/07/2021 at 12:38:31
Im not saying this is going to happen, especially because if things start badly then things could get really toxic, but this squad wasnt that far away from the top places last season, even if the style of football they played was.
47 Posted 18/07/2021 at 12:47:39
Bit underwhelmed by the Townsend links, but he has declared he expects to sign for a new club soon.
If it's part of a strategy of replacing higher earners with like for like as Sam Hoare suggests, then I see the logic in the deal. Again let's see.
48 Posted 18/07/2021 at 13:49:48
Football is all about opinion & different views on how we see the game, but a worrying response to my ask about Townsend to my Newcastle season ticket holder friend!!
49 Posted 18/07/2021 at 14:30:02
50 Posted 18/07/2021 at 15:02:21
/winger which will be one of the priority signings.
51 Posted 18/07/2021 at 15:08:17
Maybe there are restraints on the Budget, until we can ship a few out. Having said that, most Goalkeepers want to be 'Numero Uno', and are not too happy being a bench warmer (understandable too) but while keeping Jordan up to speed, they surely would cost a lot more than Asmir! (can call him that, now he is one of us!)
52 Posted 18/07/2021 at 15:18:37
Please pay some team to take him of our hands
He would fit in well at Accrington Stanley
53 Posted 18/07/2021 at 15:22:33
Townsend worries me. His early career seemed to involve shining brightly then tailing off before being moved on by managers. That made me think he must have been hard work off the field. More recently he has appeared in the media as a very mature person and his player stats are good. He also has that X factor in him where he can produce something out of the ordinary.
If the recent evidence is the real Townsend then he will be a good signing.
54 Posted 18/07/2021 at 15:28:28
55 Posted 18/07/2021 at 15:51:02
Keith 44, yes Begovic has plenty of experience. Picking ball out of the back of the net!!
Im praying that former gooner, Patrick Viera wants to take former gooner, Alex Iwobi back to London with him🙏🙏🙏
56 Posted 18/07/2021 at 16:15:01
57 Posted 18/07/2021 at 16:55:31
Soren #56, that's what he was making at Bournemouth, but he's out of contract. Wanna bet we won't be paying him that much? Try 1/3 of that. More like what we paid Lossl and Olsen.
58 Posted 18/07/2021 at 17:15:58
I will cling to that hope until the window closes.
I notice Rennes have bought exciting Ghanaian winger Sulemana. Perhaps this means Doku is on the move.
59 Posted 18/07/2021 at 18:15:45
Everton closing in on deals for wingers Demarai Gray (£1.5m from Bayer Leverkusen) and Andros Townsend (free transfer).
Colin @ 55 it looks like the rumour is more likely to be true than not.
60 Posted 18/07/2021 at 18:25:55
61 Posted 18/07/2021 at 18:29:04
62 Posted 19/07/2021 at 10:26:37
63 Posted 19/07/2021 at 11:45:15
A couple of squad players coming in to replace outgoing players and a new right-back is probably all we are looking at.
Kean is back; Gbamin looking to get up to fitness.
64 Posted 19/07/2021 at 12:25:25
Brian : £500,000 for a new ground... if only; sadly, I think you'll find it's £500,000,000!!
65 Posted 19/07/2021 at 13:14:32
- together these guys tie up wages, which can rob us of valuable kitty to deploy on better players
- these guys are not really any better than Iwobi or Bernard, although they may be more physically suited to the Prem than Bernard
- there's no immediate sign of us shifting Iwobi and Bernard, especially the former
- they block the path to the first team for Gordon, albeit he may benefit from a loan. Similar for Nkounkou and Small, both of whom can play these positions - although Small seems to have gone already
- if we do buy Bailey or similar then these two won't play much - which is a very demotivating position to be in. Buying both together means one will hardly ever feature at all. Average demotivated players tend not to be very productive (eg King)
- Palace just got Olise for about £8.5m and presumably low wages. That is the sort of player that can really improve the first team and occupy a first team spot for many years.
- Townsend and Gray don't improve the first team at all and don't really improve the bench either, apart from both being a bit faster than Iwobi. Like I say, I can kind of understand Townsend because he's a left footer at least.
- who other than Everton would sign these players? Norwich? Burnley? WBA? Bournemouth?
66 Posted 20/07/2021 at 17:07:39
Unlike in simpler times, the so called DoFs seem to be happy to shell out for their pet agents to do the work for them and that breed will only have interest in top league players who will be happy to share their exorbitant pay with them via complex commission deals and service contracts.
The game at top level stinks and deserves to have a clean up. And it can't come too soon.
67 Posted 20/07/2021 at 17:17:06
Large number of overseas players taking the squad place these players would once have filled
Even Championship players come with the English premium on their price. Why buy a player with no top level experience when you can bring in an international for less.
Fewer quality youngsters start their careers at their local clubs and then get picked up by top clubs. Excuse the RS analogy but there aren't too many Kevin Keegan's coming through at clubs like Sc**thorpe any more because they get scouted in their teens by PL clubs.
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