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Dave Williams
1 Posted 04/10/2021 at 09:33:51
What a great article- lovely to read about a five year old at his first away game- well done Paul for lasting the whole game!
I agree the player markings but to me Gordon has plenty of pace, he just lacks the power to help him surge past players but if he works at it in the gym he will fill out and could be a regular by next season.
Paul Davies
2 Posted 04/10/2021 at 09:51:06
Dave I agree that Gordon looks a bit lightweight but will be a good player with some confidence which his performance on Saturday surely gave him. I remember seeing Jeffers for the first time and thinking he’ll be lucky to weigh 5 Stone wearing a wet donkey jacket full of spanner’s. But he didn’t do too badly!
Steve Hogan
3 Posted 04/10/2021 at 10:38:42
Your a braver man than me Paul, taking a 5 year old to Old Trafford, even with the away supporters. Too many dickheads, even amongst evertonian's.

The aggression and toxic language heard even at Goodison, would make a nun blush.

Glad you both enjoyed the experience.

Danny O’Neill
4 Posted 04/10/2021 at 11:05:41
Great stuff Paul. Pleased the young man grew into it and enjoyed the occasion.

I took my lad to his first match at home to Villa on the first day of the season when he was 2 (I think). We sat on the front row of the Enclosure, right in the corner with the Park End. My back turned for a second before kick off and he'd helped himself on to the sideline, heading towards the pitch, but his mini pitch invasion was curtailed and the offender returned to his seat. Probably his first memorable away match was not so memorable. Lost away to Charlton in the match Ferguson got himself sent off in.

Agree with most of your ratings. Probably would have dropped Keane a point. Extremely harsh of me, just picked up on his token "let it float over my head and watch the ball" moment in the first half that nearly cost us. But other than that, he did play well.

Your comment and comparison on Gordon intrigued me. Technical but not blessed with pace. I instinctively thought of Pienaar. I could be wrong here, but I don't recall him being particularly quick either. But his technical ability, quick thought process and change of pace gave him an edge. And the left back of the time enjoyed playing with him too!!!

Dave Abrahams
5 Posted 04/10/2021 at 12:10:24
Good report Paul, glad your little boy enjoyed the game and it looks like he is getting an appetite for the Blues,hope he doesn’t suffer as much as most of us have in the future.

The way Townsend cushions the pass from Doucoure, is absolutely brilliant, just a little pat with his left foot getting it completely under control ready for his right foot to take over and slam it in, excellent.

A very good team effort that I thought was deserving of all three points. Benitez is doing a great job with a threadbare squad, the longer he stays at Everton all the better for us.

Martin Nicholls
6 Posted 04/10/2021 at 12:22:59
Great report, Paul – been there and done it with the kids and now the grandkids!

My take on the match was pretty similar overall to your own, although like Dave@1, I think Gordon (who played far better than I could have hoped) certainly does have some pace about him, if not being exactly jet-heeled.

I've entered the Davies debate on another thread so won't repeat myself here!

Tony Abrahams
7 Posted 04/10/2021 at 12:46:59
It's hard when the kids can't watch the game Paul, but hopefully once he got home and thought about it then he asks you to take him next week!

I took my youngest who loves playing football but has no time for watching it to the Norwich game, and although he said he wants to go next week, I've got a feeling that he will like the away games a lot more, because he only came alive when the crowd sang, and during one of the quiet moments he jumped up out of his seat and shouted “just break his fuckin ankles” something he definitely never got from me.

I asked him why he said it, and he said the Everton player was just watching their player who had the ball, and you're supposed to get stuck in, and not just let them do what they want, which is exactly what Everton did at Old Trafford. 👍

Alex Kociuba
8 Posted 04/10/2021 at 13:31:14
Although I can sympathise with the awkwardness of the severe language near your child, I wonder what other scenario in life you can actually shout out 'You fucking cunts' repeatedly and for no reason. 😂

I think the best place for this kind of behaviour and language is precisely at an away match with heightened emotions. Maybe I'm looking at it through tinted glasses and because I now live in another country and missing matchday atmosphere, but the 'aggression and toxic language' is actually kind of brilliant – maybe even poetic in its own way – and I miss it very much.

Stephen Vincent
9 Posted 04/10/2021 at 14:31:18
Great report, Paul, took me back to taking my son to his first match (EFC 4 Sheff Utd 2 – Cottee hat-trick) sat at the front of the Paddock, he was much better behaved than Danny's lad.

Thought Ben Godfrey was our weak link, he is definitely not a full-back and a lot of the time Man Utd had the freedom of our right flank. Don't understand the reluctance to play Kenny, he is a natural right-back and, whilst he may not be the long-term solution, he is limited going forward and does not have Godfrey's pace, but he would have been tighter on Martial. Got to be worth a go.

Danny O’Neill
10 Posted 04/10/2021 at 17:45:02
I think it depends, Alex @8 and who it's directed at. We all get emotional and my son used to get a "pass" at a young age to "express" himself during the match as did I. But as with anything, there's a line that can be crossed.

Reading Paul's comment on that made me thing of the bloke behind me, Derek Knox & Andy Crooks last week in the Gwladys Street. All 3 of us grown men, lots of cumulative Goodison experience between us and used to sitting near "that guy". But he was special. Genuinely never heard one that bad in all my years.

I hope the young man is still buzzing, Paul.

John Raftery
11 Posted 04/10/2021 at 20:55:53
Great report, Paul. I hope the positive aspects of the day outweigh the negative ones from your son's point of view.

Like others, I was surprised to read your comment about Anthony Gordon's pace. From what I have seen, he is quick, certainly compared with some of the pedestrian performers we have recruited in previous years. On Saturday he was up against Aaron Wan-Bissaka who is one of the fastest full-backs around and gave him a run for his money.

A concern about Gordon has been his lack of physical strength but he is beginning to show the sort of tenacity he will need if he is to make the grade. The other obvious aspect for improvement is his output of goals and assists. The lad has potential but we will need more from him as the season progresses.

Paul Kernot
12 Posted 04/10/2021 at 22:29:37
Alex #8. You reminded me of the first time dad took me to Goodison (late 60's) and many subsequent games. There was a guy behind us who screamed the same thing 20 plus times during the game at the top of his voice. Scared the shit out of me the fist time he screamed 'get a grip Everton'. Was that you!!
Danny O’Neill
13 Posted 04/10/2021 at 23:20:10
The pace thing is interesting John Raftery. I'll need to watch a bit more of young Gordon, but what I've seen so far, I don't see blistering pace like a Demarai Gray or even dare I say a 30-year-old Andros Townsend.

What I see is an intelligent football brain and a good turn / change of pace. That is just as good to beat a player and buy space as much as winning an outright 40-yard sprint and can give the perception of pace, when really, you've left them standing and given yourself 10 yards that they won't make up in time.

For a lot of players, it's often the change of pace that's important and I think that's what Gordon has along with technical ability and a very intelligent footballing brain. Hopefully I'll get to watch him more closely but so far, that's what I'm seeing.

Nicolas Piñon
14 Posted 05/10/2021 at 04:21:54
Great story, Paul!

I believe Gordon is pretty quick as a few said.

You're article reminded me of my visits to Goodison, great descriptions mate! I envy you a lot, from Argentina! Hahaha.

As for the slating man, well that is something that very often happens and can be frustrating, but away at Old Trafford, I'll take it!!

Bill Watson
15 Posted 05/10/2021 at 13:53:39
Great report, Paul, and I wouldn't argue much with your ratings although, like a few others' comments, I do think Gordon does have quite a bit of pace. Hopefully, this game will have boosted his confidence that he can cut it at Premier level.

Stephen #9
Before the QPR game I'd have agreed with you on JJK but he had a nightmare and didn't deserve to be selected on Saturday.

Stephen Vincent
16 Posted 05/10/2021 at 14:22:07
Bill, if you are judging by performances against QPR very few deserved to start. With a first choice 11 he may still be a better option. But as I said I really don't think he is going to be the long term solution.
Anthony Flack
17 Posted 05/10/2021 at 17:42:05
Lovely read! It was also the first away game I have taken my daughter to – though she is 17 and a hardened blue!

We could only get tickets in their North Stand, and behaved a bit like a tourist neutral for most of the game, but as soon as we equalised Issy said to me if we get a winner lets go for it!!!

88th minute and we are on our seats screaming goal like the best South American commentators – sadly saw our arses a little, when we finally sat down – but all the fans around us were perfectly decent!!

Issy said she was surprised how subdued a group of fans they are and how Ronaldo obsessed the support was!

Danny O’Neill
18 Posted 05/10/2021 at 18:01:21
Anthony, if you thought the United fans were Ronaldo obsessed, I'm glad you were at the match and didn't have to listen to the punditry and commentators.

Outrage at his non-selection and then delirium when he came on. They were so wanting him to score so they could no doubt roll out their pre-prepared scripts.

And it continued onto Match of the Day. "If Ronaldo is on the pitch, he scores that", repeat x however many!

John Boon
19 Posted 06/10/2021 at 00:46:33
Taking your son to the game was far far bigger than Manchester United v Everton. These are memories that you will delight in and savour for a lifetime. You and your son will probably see many Everton games in the future, some you will want to remember and hopefully not too many that you will be glad to forget.

But what you did last weekend will always be a first for both of you. Not counting the one you took him to when he was 2. For his sake, and with all due regard to Lincoln City, never tell him that the Lincoln game was his first.

Andy McNabb
20 Posted 06/10/2021 at 01:34:10
You're a brave man, Paul. Makes me feel a bit of a coward watching it from behind the sofa 12,000 miles away. Hope your lad lasts the course.

I text my son, who lives an hour away in Melbourne, and he had turned it off after 8 minutes, fearing the worst. He was carried to his first game at Goodison by his mother when he wasn't to be born for another 3 months but at least was there as Tony Cottee scored a hat-trick (yet another false dawn) on his debut.

Sounds like you had a good time with friends and family of both colours. Good to be reminded of that when we often just concentrate on the idiots.

Jon Wit
21 Posted 10/10/2021 at 08:25:37
Nice story – not sure when what age I should take mine. I certainly remember hearing my first colourful language at Goodison, I must've been about 6.
Brian Murray
22 Posted 10/10/2021 at 09:14:37
This thread I’m sure should be a lump in the throat getting all kenright moment but on the flip side as a 14 year old going to old Trafford in the last 8 of the league cup in 76 with my let’s say handy older brother. I was petrified as Ronnie goodlass ran amok as we win 3 nil. Half the Stratford end stemmed to be outside waiting to hear a scouse accent. My brother got me all the way to the coach door when all hell broke loose and some Manc had his head jabbed off by my brother as he screamed for me to get on the coach that they where blocking. Hardly a window was left intact on that journey back. Scary but I remember thinking I’d never seen us play like that. The 69 season a bit hazy for me. Only remember two or three matches.
Jim Lloyd
23 Posted 10/10/2021 at 13:28:23
Paul,

What a smashing article – and another Blue for life... brilliant.

What was equally great, that *goal* was so near to being perfect and a wonderful piss-take of the Mancs. What was equally excellent, is that we had eight players in and around the box in that attack. Good to see and I can't remember seeing so many thoroughly superfast counter-attacks from Everton for yonks!

As for funny moments at Old Trafford, me and me mate went up there on Boxing Day (forget what season,) horrible day, pouring down, cold and we got beat 4-Nil. That was bad enough but we got surrounded by a bunch of Mancs in a chippy, no way out but past them. One asked my mate what the time was and he just jammed a load of chips in his gob and mumbled (quick thinking get!) Then the Manc asked me... knee-knocking time. Luckily, by the time he got to me, I remembered my dad's woollyback language (he came from Haydock) and spouted out a poor attempt of relying "It was a great match, didn't we whack the scousers!" and held me hand out to show him my watch. I think he thought I was a mental defective!

Thankfully, we escaped and when we got into town, spent the rest of the night in the wine lodge drinking Hot Toddies... Got the last train back to Liverpool. Don't remember the journey...


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