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The spirit of '85...Before the game tonight we were all talking about how the "Old Lady" would be rocking and how the intimidating atmosphere would be an advantage for us against a side that returned 1000's of their ticket allocation & ended up with about 2000 at Goodison tonight.
What happened? We were outsung for 90 minutes by approx 2000 Chelsea fans who never stopped singing from start to finish.
This raises an issue that's been bugging me for a long while now and an issue WE can do something about. We must NEVER allow this to happen again at Goodison ? for far too long we've sat there waiting to be entertained, waiting to lend our support, waiting for the players to give us the impetus to help us help them. When we score we lift the lid on Goodison & we get behind the side & silence the opposition fans. But this only seems to happen AFTER we score FFS!
As Evertonians we're better than the piss poor showing we put in tonight; forget the result, forget the players, Tony Marsh ? forget the manager ? WHAT ABOUT US?
We can do something about this ? it's in OUR hands to never allow this to happen again ? hence the reason for this post ? to open a discusson as to what we can do.....
I watched the Spurs vs Arsenal game last night and the Spurs fans were different class ? I know they had the encouragement of an early goal ? but even before kick off they were immense ? we were outsung before the kick off FFS! Without a "Reclaim the Kop" style campaign, we need to open a debate as to what we can do to rectify this sad situation.
"The ball was virtually sucked into the net by the Street end" - Everton vs Bayern... wasn't going to happen tonight...
The Club has moved on, the players are showing a great spirit and commitment, the manager is determined to bring success, we're 4th in the League, still in Europe & despite tonight's result ? on the way back to where we belong. Everyone's doing there bit ? apart from US at Home...
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There was a great atmosphere tonight. The TV footage, I am sure, failed to refect the true atmosphere, it never does. Gwladys hardly stopped, and it spread more often than not throughout the ground. Chelsea were singing pretty constantly, but it was hardly intimidating... the 3,000 empty seats in their allocation was embarrassing. True, we went quiet as frustration set in second half and we conceded, but once we knew we’d lost we sung louder and gave the lads a standing ovation. My throat is raw. If you were there, was your hearing aid on?
A Chelsea fan was on the Radio saying it was like a library, and that Chelsea were magnificent.
Loads of blues rang/text in to say this was bollocks. The atmosphere was fantastic until the nerves set in late in the first half.
We could have won that game with bolder, earlier substitutions.
We will sing when we win something too, which won?t be too far away.
Any Evertonian who was there will tell you the noise from the old lady was immense.
COYB.!!!!!!!!!!
My dad called me just before the game kicked off and I could barely hear him.
A poor result and a pretty average performance but we learn from this and move on.
I was at the match and for the most the atmosphere was great. Where there was a few lulls during the game (naturally), the noise from all pockets of the ground was immense and I could barely hear the Chelsea fans. There were hundreds of empty seats in the away end which was frankly embarrassing for a ’big 4’ club and the away fans were barracked accordingly.
read any paper review this morning and they all say the atmosphere was loud and intimidating. Please leave these unfair comments at home. please.
I just wanna echo the comments above, especially the one that states that there is NO WAY you were at that game if you think what yousaid is true?? I cant comment on what it sounded like on TV but from experience the noise levels at goodison are never transmitted well, for unknown reasons. I remember watching the Man U match back when Duncn scored in 05 & its sounded average apart from goal but if you were there, you would know the stands was a shakin all the way through, same for Villareal and even the bucharest match.
So, as stated, leave these daft, incorrect comments at home please.
the acoustics dont help. if you sit in the lower gwlad / bullens, cos of the roof, not much sound leaves or comes in, so if your sitting there you?d leave with the impression that we were singing more.
pains me to say it but i thought for a semi the atmosphere was quite poor. in recent times the villareal and man utd 1-0?s were much better
Get off your arses and get the game before making a judgment.
"Everton’s cup dream rolls as Goodison rocks
CARLING CUP SEMI-FINAL, 2ND LEG
EVERTON 0 CHELSEA 1 CHELSEA WIN 3-1 ON AGG
Alan Nixon 24/01/2008
It was one small step for Avram Grant but a giant stride for the new Chelsea that owner Roman Abramovich is so determined to build after sacking Jose Mourinho.
Reaching the final of the Carling Cup at Wembley may not exactly match the Premier League and FA Cup-winning feats of Mourinho. But it was the Carling Cup where the great man started his trophy collection.
Grant’s poker-faced desire spurred them to within 90 minutes of more honours and the Special One will surely be watching with envy from his Portuguese retreat.
That it was completed in the blistering atmosphere of a white-hot Goodison says even more about what is to come from this rebuilt Chelsea side. This famous old ground has not seen or heard anything like it for 23 years - and, sad to say, probably won’t witness its like again.
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It was time travel football, transporting those lucky enough to have seen the last semi-final second leg here back to 1985 and THAT night against Bayern Munich.
All that was missing was Andy Gray running through brick walls as Howard Kendall’s hurricanes sent the Germans home with their beach towels around slumped shoulders and under ruffled perms.
There has been a long wait between that European Cup Winners’ Cup semi, possibly the most historic game played here, and the next showdown.
For sheer emotion and frenzy Everton’s rough and ready old home has few equals. It scares and excites at the same time, ordinary players go that extra yard, classy thoroughbreds get twitchy.
With the move to Kirkby and a new future ahead. Goodison may have staged its last passion play. But for one night only it was the Theatre of Screams again. Even if Everton failed to make it to Wembley."
The Chelsea fans were situated directly underneath the cameras have just over half of the upper tier. They were supposed to have almost half of the entire lower tier too, but couldn’t even half fill the normal away fans paddock allocation, with NONE in the lower Bullens. Everton Fans took up their returned places where possible, but this meant that a whole block of the lower Bullens had to remain vacant. Therefore the bulk of the visiting fans, (who could’ve probably all fit into the normal away section) were congregated directly under the roof and the cameras. They sang constantly, and while most of the rest of the ground couldn’t always hear them TV viewers certainly could. An Everton goal would’ve made the place really boil over, it wasn’t far off at times as it was.
I could not make the game last night, so watched it at home. half way through the first half I text a mate who was in the lower street end and asked him what was going on with the atmosphere as all I could here was Chelsea. He said that it was the best atmosphere he had seen in a long time and both the Street and Park End were bouncing.
Gutted could not get there. But well done to everyone one that was there and made the atmosphere what it should have been.
Wasn?t just the singing that was one side on Sky either, The two commentators were biased twats.
Maybe you should get out your fucking arm-chair and go the match mate.
Its knobheads like you who come on here moaning just for the sake of moaning. Prick.
I was there, like most of the posters and you are wrong. The fact that the sky cameras situated near them may make them amplify more, but believe me, even when we gave them a singing inch, we took it back big time.
Only in the imagination of a glory hunting Chelsea fan can Goodison ever be described as a libray.
You need to go to more live matches mate
Could have a lot to do with where the microphones were placed, but that?s all that came across for anyone watching at home.
Yes the TV did not pick up the crowd but we who were there have already told the arnchairs what the atmosphere was actually like.
Sorry if this sounds aggressive but I am just pissed off with the bandwagoners on here trying to slate the fans
I couldn’t believe it when I got home and stuck on the repeat of the match, alls you could hear was the Chelsea fans. It’s an absolute disgrace because there is no way they were louder than us. The everton crowd was deafening.
Speaking to a Liverpool supporting friend who lives 2.5 miles from GP this morning. He said he was watching the match with his dad and said the Everton fans were crap as he couldn’t hear them. He then put the bins out and couldn’t believe the noise. He called his dad out and said listen to that and they couldn’t belive that it was the same game being played on the TV.
It was a disgrace and I feel like making a complaint as it really annoys me coming into work and hearing mis-guided reds lament the Everton crowd when it was absolutely fantastic support last night.
Yes there was a buzz prior with huge applause at the start and finish, but throughout the game it was far from rocking and if you think it was your seriously deluded. We never even scored and we fu*kin lost!!!
How anyone can compare the nights atmosphere to the great nights witnessed at Goodison is beyond belief.
I am not even a regular at goodison, but I manage about 3/4 games a season. I have witnessed 3 derbies the duncan 2-0, the carsley 1-0 and the fu*kin clattenberg of which the duncan derby stands out by miles. My ears were ringing on the way home. Fu*k me I wish i’d gone the Wimbeldon game when Barry Horne scored when the Park end was demolished or even fa cup run 95.
Rockin games at Goodison witness Everton goals and pitch invasions!!
Yes there was a buzz prior with huge applause at the start and finish, but throughout the game it was far from rocking and if you think it was your seriously deluded. We never even scored and we fu*kin lost!!!
How anyone can compare the nights atmosphere to the great nights witnessed at Goodison is beyond belief.
I am not even a regular at goodison, but I manage about 3/4 games a season. I have witnessed 3 derbies the duncan 2-0, the carsley 1-0 and the fu*kin clattenberg of which the duncan derby stands out by miles. My ears were ringing on the way home. Fu*k me I wish i’d gone the Wimbeldon game when Barry Horne scored when the Park end was demolished or even fa cup run 95.
Rockin games at Goodison witness Everton goals and pitch invasions!!
ps was great to see the boys being sung off after the final whistle, its good to show them that we appreciate there efforts even if unfortunately it wasnt our night.
LETS KEEP IT UP!!! COYB
It’s hard to be all great blues together when you read complete and utter rubbish form people who clearly have not been anaywhere near the game.
If you want to pretend that sitting at home entiles you to a valid opinion of te team, club etc fair enough.
But for fucksake, you armchairs are taking the piss when you criticise the people who have paid for their tickets, gone to the ground, given great vocal support to their team becuase you can’t hear it on the fucking box!
Get off your arse and go to the ground...if thats not possible fair enough. But don’t write rubbish about what the atmospehere was like when you were not there. End of.
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I have to disagree with you Steve - it was a night to be proud for all Evertonians.Proud of our team and proud of our supporters. I prefer the opinion of Arsene Wenger on the noise generated by the Goodison crowd.
Well done every Evertonian who was there last night.COYB
I wasn?t intending on rattling any cages, indeed my post has been taken down, hopefully only because I used the c word when describing the delightful songs the chelsea fans were singing our way.
I can?t review what I wrote now, but sorry if it caused offence, that really wasnt the intention - all I wanted to say was what was audible on TV, I was not passing judgement on our fans and gave no speculation nor cast any aspertions on our support last night. I think your reaction is massively hyper-sensitive, mate.
Did you actually read the words I wrote?
I think you are being a bit of cheeky twat really, the support Everton have received over many years has been exceptional, loyal and noisy given the absolute shite they have often served up. (and we follow the Blues without any of the insane posturing of media darling fans of NUFC)
The team fell short last night and both ends of the ground were still singing at the end of the game. As you will be aware if you have followed the Blues away, we make a hell of a racket when the Blues travel. For people to comment on the atmosphere at the game when they werent even there is a bit rich. The atmosphere at Goodison has been commented upon by variety of other people as hostile and intimidating. Perhaps those crazy West Londoners sounded louder as their voices could echo off the empty seating they were surrounded by.
Phil Smith
Phil this is not true mate, the Gwladys followed by the Park End and then everyone else, all burst into song just after Chelsea scored.
I?ll print them again if you didn?t
"Sorry if this sounds aggressive but I am just pissed off with the bandwagoners on here trying to slate the fans "
Hyper sensitive!!!, as the "words I wrote" above show, it was a culmination of many posters not just your post alone, it was just that it was your post I responded to, it could have been anyones. I even apologised for the tone but some people are never happy.
I was lucky enough to be at the game(top balcony)and while i thought the atmosphere was good,i do think it could of been better.Whenever the street end started,i would join in at the top of my voice and invariably75% of people around me would join in a line or two after,maybe more,by the time everyone was singing/chanting/shouting the chant had stopped!Now i must admit im normally part of the 75%,but last night i was sat at the back of the stand,therefore beeing able to stand all the way through,which seemed to do something for my singing voice.The real reason people are saying that Chelsea outsung us is that whenever they started up a song we would outsing them for 30 seconds then finnish and annoyingly their still going in a low steady song,when weve just screamed our heads off !That is what i think is the problem ,we need a slow,low song that we can sing for several minutes like they do with their Chelsea,Chelsea..Chelsea..Chelsea.The opoint is u can keep that going for ages everyone can join in,i mean Everton ,Everton,Everton just gets faster and faster you loose track of where the street end is or the park end .I hate to say it but even the r/s do it with their Red-shite,Red-shite song,see its easy and simple and the whole ground can join in and keep up.Thats what we need imo.
It does also seem that most of the posts that are saying we were quiet last night do seem to be coming from people in the main stand,that doesnt surprise me i havnt been to goodison much recently but when ive sat in the main stand its been the quietest place ive been.After saying all that i think sky did stitch us up!
This has explained everything. To have to listen to those arrogant, wankers calling Phil Neville a cunt and singing that Goodison is a shithole all night really made my blood boil - more than the match!
Why don’t the Club move the away fans to the Top Balcony where the atmosphere is none too good usually and reclaim the Bullens Road? In ’85 those Bayern fans were dumped up there and it would be no different to what happens at Newcastle. Just a thought.
The level of encouragement and support given to the team can usually be summed up in one word - " brilliant". I am saddened that some Evertonians see fit to criticise the level of support given to the team in the Chelsea match. We should be totally united ( that’s not in the prawn sandwhich sense of the word) in this - we have a team to be proud of and we should also be proud of ourselves ( in a typically modest Evertonian way of course !!!)
Hand on heart I could not hear very much from the Street end at all.
whats wrong with having a different opinion?


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