Moyes the New Trev
For a long time many of us have been hoping that Moyes would turn out to be the new Alex Ferguson. Like Fergie he inherited a giant that had fallen on hard times and like Fergie he reached got through several years without a trophy. Now, granted Fergie had more money and had previously won trophies whereas Moyes never has, but the longer that we go without a trophy the more I think Moyes isn't the messiah we had hoped for.Some of you may recall the previous Walter Smith era at rangers during which his side won the league every year. Towards the end of his tenure Celtic had Tommy Burns as boss and each year his team got better and better and played some nice football and had some great players. They always seemed on the verge of winning but somehow they never did. The year after Burns left they DID win the championship for the first time in a decade. Tommy it turned out had the ability to put a good team together but lacked the edge to turn them into champions.
Back in the early 90's you may remember Trevor Francis as Sheff Wed boss. He almost won the league in '92. He almost won a cup in '93 when they reached both finals. At Birmingham he almost got them promoted every year but they always lost in the players. In 2001 he even got them to the League Cup Final which they lost to compound their misery after almost being promoted but falling short yet again.
I always liked Trevor and Tommy. They were able to creat pretty good teams on pretty small budgets and almost won some trophies. sadly though for Wednesday fans thsoe almost mean nothing now as they languish in the Championship. Those almosts did nothing for Trev or Tommy career wise either and I am afraid Moyes is heading their way.
One thing about Burns, Moyes, Francis, Gerry Francis, David Pleat and Alan Curbishley is that they have all had issues with players who have big ego's and attitudes and their solution has always been to replace them with nice guys who keep their heads down and stay out of trouble. Maybe their is something to be said for having a Roy Keane, a Duncan Ferguson or a Paul Ince in your team. Having a team of Gary Linekers isn't perhaps the best option. We didn't win anything when we had him funnily enough whereas we did with the less prolific but more spirited Andy Gray.
Moyes has to learn how to deal with problem players other than showing them the exit door. we as a team lack character. i was shocked at Anfield to see the Liverpool players roughing up our lads early on. The Joe Royle team would have given as good as they got but these nice lads seemed to be intimidated and the only fire we saw was Phil Nevilles petulance after he left the field.
I think that the reason we lose cup games is because of this lack of character. It is not enough to give 100%. We lose in cup games to the big 4 and to minnows. Those types of teams have one thing in common ... they give 110%. The big teams know they have to to keep their jobs and the minnows have nothing to lose and a once in a lifetime opportunity to beat a premiership team. We on the other hand play to our usual level and lose against opponents with more character who jump an inch higher, run a yard faster and just refuse to lose.
I am not saying we should sack Moyes. he has done an amazing job with limited resources but I just feel that we are the poor mans Arsenal. A nice team of characterless players who think 100% and playing fair is enough when it is not. Arsenal are the Portugal of the Premierhsip. the nearly men. We are the Poortugal.
Moyes needs to add a leader on the field or add a strong asst manager who will get the wind up people. If he doesn't he can get a job with Trevor Francis and david Pleat as a nearly man who never won a trophy because his character didn't match his football brain.
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I would not sack DM either but he needs someone along side him to give him some help. I could be wrong but I don’t think that any other manager at the top of the PL is working alone.
I would appoint a coach who knows how to pass a ball so he can teach our players to do the same - preferably not colour blind.
The same comments I made on Marshy’s piece mesh in with this.
I feel you may have hit the nail on the head, Moyes, close, but no cigar.
But it was an interesting article and I agree with it. The team?s heads do seem to drop very quickly when things don?t go their way. Is that down to Moyes though or is it because our squad is so small that we don?t have many options to change things mid-game?
I?m surprised at the focus on Moyes, and his inability to makes bricks without straw.
His achievement in getting the team to where it is given the resources he has been given is remarkable. If the teamdoesn?t progress and win something it will be because he has not been given more resources not because of some personal failing or character fault. He is simply the best manager Everton could possibly hope to attract in their current financial state and given the Board he works to.
Evertonians should concentrate on persuading him to stay because the only direction should we lose him is down and if he doesn?t get the backing to improve the squad as he knows he needs to then he will go because he will have outgrown the club
I see words like ?remarkable?, ?worked wonders? etc...
Now I believe Moyes is the man for our team and he is learning his trade, but why do Evertonians feel the need to ignore the bleeding obvious.... 50% of Davey?s transfers have been utter shite. That means he has wasted 50% of the substantial transfer fees he has been handed.....
Now if that amounts to ?remarkable?..then I?d hate to see what shite would be.....
I was quite fond of David Pleat at Spurs. 4-5-1 with a midfield you could only dream of: Hoddle, Waddle, Ardiles, Hodge, P. Allen. No wonder Clive Allen got 49 goals, your average grandmother could score with that midfield! Alas, the FA Cup Final..
Whoever did hasn?t watched much football this season... I?ve seen every match this season and the amount of decent displays I?ve seen since christmas I could count on one hand.
Winning matches against the run of play is not playing good football.
Imagine how good Everton could be if we continued the upward trend that Moyes has brought.
Lets be honest, when Moyes joined we were:
Fighting relegation
Old poor squad
No respect within the pemiership
Now we are:
Chasing the champions league positions
Young squad
Respected throughout europe.
Please remember how far Davey has brought us...
When you consider Wenger and Rafa etc, they spend huge money on lots of players, and some of them are shite too. I mean look at the dross that has rolled through our friends over the park, should I mention Josemi? Or than winger bloke who they bought with fanfare from Real!?
Kroldrup was a mistake, and VDM has disappointed, but for £1.8m, not exactly a diasaster. When you look at the others though, Howard, Lescott, Jags, Valente, Arteta, Pienaar, Cahill, Yakubu, etc we haven’t spent that much and they have been excellent.
I agree with that Moyes needs an assistant and someone to wind up the players a bit more. But he is the best out there for us, and I back him 100%. I certainy could see Rafa building a team with the resources we have!!
Now almost all of the pie is shared between 4 teams and the crumbs given to the rest. I have always said that Moyes has his faults but I honestly cannot think of another manager that would take his role on who we could a) afford or b) persuade to join us.
To suggest that wenger spends large amounts of money on players who you would consider shite....well, I can’t see how that stacks up...because i can’t think of one apart from jeffers..and even then i wouldn’t consider him to be shite...just another failed evertonian who had great promise.
as for your comment about benitez....just because he buys shite doesn’t mean it’s an excuse for Moyes to do likewise.
I think we need a technical coach who concentrates on getting the team to build from the back rather than play the long ball. We also need some technically gifted midfielders. Moyes has made some great buys and one or two shockers. Lets hope Bill backs him in the summer and he pulls a couple out of the hat.
Moyes defo lacks any creativity, I?ve always thought that someone like Gianfranco Zola would be a good No 2. He would bring alternative ideas with flair, attacking and creativity. I wonder if Poyet at Spurs is the unsung hero, Leeds went downhill when he left.


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If not we will continue to be nearly men. Does anyone have any thoughts on how this could be structured (An assistant manager, or a director of football, or perhaps something different)