?A little patience... yeeeaah!?
I don?t mind fans speculating on who we may sign or sell during the summer, especially when a major tournament is on. It?s all part of being a fan & the reason why Pro Evo, Fifa, Champ Manager etc etc, all sell so well as they do.We all know the tabloids, gossip columns & rumour mills all fuel this speculation & as I say it's all a bit of fun and decent pub/work banter, but in a day when every time a manager or club even enquires about a player it is reported on one of the said outlets above, we should take all these reports with a pinch of salt and not get too excited when a top/big name player is linked or too disappointed when deals 'fall through' as there probably wasn?t a deal there to begin with.
My point is that reading the posts & columns, on this site particularly, there seems so much concern when a player is even mentioned!! To quote the legendary Axl Rose, we need a little patience.
As we know we don?t have the buying power or general clout in the transfer market as say Man Utd, Arsenal or any of the CL clubs and we are not on a par (financially) with Spurs, Newcastle, Pompey or City but we are an exciting proposition for a player. We are viewed as a club on the up with a good manager at the helm; with what little money we have, it is prudent for DM to take his time assessing any targets he may have ? both in terms of on-the-field ability & off-the-field personality ? as we all know how much emphasis Moyes puts on the team spirit and togetherness of his squad. It enables him to get more out of them.
So chill your boots lads & lasses, you can only judge someone by their own track record and what they have done in the past & I would back Moyes's record against most in European football in his time here.
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None of us have any idea about how much can be spent this summer, if the sale of Bellefield will have any implications on that budget, who Moyes actually wants, why Moyes has not signed a new contract as yet.
There are either unresolved issues within the club or they are playing the cards close to the chest in order to quietly achieve their targets. I would suspect the latter but who really knows anything?
It's a marathon not a sprint, and Moyes usually doesn?t disappoint. If you just want signings early on for signings sake you're a tool. And as bad as those Newcastle fans I always heard getting slammed as they are won over by a trophy purchase every year. Grow up and stop fretting you?d think we were in a creche.
ps: I?m not taking a shot at those who run TW who don?t tend to fuel what is ridiculous hyperbole over non-events in rags and rumours from attention seekers.
Are you writing KW’s lines? ;)
I agree, Moyes is doing his homework and will suss out what is best and make the signings accordingly.
Having said that..... I am a bit worried we are heavily linked with the 5ft 7" Portugese midfielder though. We need more height in the middle. I think that was the reason that Baines did not play so much last season (because we needed height at set pieces). But I have faith in Moyes to put it right this summer.
(Whispers to Moyes so other managers can’t hear)
B o s i n g w a
Buying early means meeting the valuation of the selling club. Something we will not be prepared to do.
I’d say Moyes knows what he’s doing in the transfer market, more so than any of us. Hence he’s the manager - we’re the supporters.
"Moyes knows what he?s doing in the transfer market, more so than any of us. Hence he?s the manager - we?re the supporters"
"Well.....(lights ceeegar...puff...puff...) he may know more than YOU m’boy, but he certainly does NOT know more than me!
What a cr-AZY notion!
Who bought Kroldrup?
Me?
Who.....I say WHOOOO bought Shandy Van Der Ale-Tank?
It certainly was NOT...............me.
Turns to Judge: Your honour, is there really any need to further waste the courts time?"
etc.
I salute you for asking some of our more sweaty-browed fans to wind their necks in and have patience.
But you’re wasting your time.
You know that "Six Degrees of Separation" theory? Well, for a majority of Evertonians it’s something similar but in our case we are only ever a hop, skip and jump from full-blown panic.
The Zoltan Gera post on here yesterday was a classic of its kind: Fulham sign a player and dum-dee-dum our squad is going to be too small to cope next season.
No reasoning. Just blind panic.
"I had a cup of tea at the match last week. It was too hot. F****ing Kenwright!", etc, etc, ad nauseum.
My major concern (apart from the obvious one of DM not signing his contract nor getting a numer 2 in)is that we always have a better season when we have a good preseason with the whole squad and while it is ok to squeeze one or two late ones in like Yak last year with the number of new signings we need we really have to start early.
We need Fernandes,Carsley,McFadden,Wessells replacements and some squad cover.
That will take time so I cant imagine we’ll be buying 4 or 5 players all at once in mid July.
Yes, Moyes has made some howlers in the market (Kroldrup, Beattie) but so has every manager - Ferguson (£28m on Veron), Wenger (Jeffers etc.) and Mourinho (£13m on Ferreira) included - and his record is better than most. Bad things happen to clubs whose managers dive recklessly into the transfer market - just look at Newcastle. If what we see as dithering is actually careful scouting and tough negotiations we should welcome it ? as this is the only way to reduce your chances of getting a dud.
After all, there were people on TW at this time last year saying that Moyes was dithering when he missed out on Smith, Nugent et al. Not sure anyone is saying that now.
i seem to remember...
spurs winning the carling cup
portsmouth winning the fa cup
zenit winning the uefa cup
..or maybe on reflection we could be in for Moutinho and Veloso !!
Hence the club has done the right thing keeping figures close to "Bully’s" huge chest. It keeps prices down - in an already inflated marketplace.
Also re: Patience, since the best contracts for the club invariably involve some sweetneers and contract clause advantage taking (al la Pienaar £2.05m)... its all about PATIENCE as the club’s lawyers and advisors scope the best deals in Moyes’ target list.
Some prespective exciting transfers of the Portuguese, Spanish and English (plus one Yank) variety are emerging. But its undoubtably being done away from public glare and are protracted negotiations, much like the Cahill, Lescott, Arteta, Yak, Jags, Pienaar negotiations were.
I’m patient - was abit down about Ramsey - but am happier with what we’re supposedly looking at trying to get in that we’ve heard in the past few days.
COYB and I back Moyes, He’s proved he can be trusted.
Who signed Lescott, Yobo, Jags, Peanuts, Howard? Not you! You wouldnt have the knowledge. It was david Moyes, he has done what one of the most succesful managers in britain couldnt do (walter smith) Steer everton out of an annual relegation battle. Nuff said...
I think you’ve hit it right on the button. Patience is the watchword. I also think we can get a bit carried away, with some of fantastic players on show. Yes, it would be great to have a wish list of the best of these, drooling at the mouth to come to EFC. The likelyhood is we’ll have about 20million or so at best, to spend.
If that’s so, then Moyesie will have to spend every penny wisely. If we can get two really good players (one midfielder and one forward) plus a couple of decent squad players, then, I think that will be it.
I hope he can also find one or two young uns who might just make it.
We can’t compete cashwise with any of our competitors but I believe Davey Moyes will bring in good additions to the squad.
It’s early days as John says and we need to show a bit more faith in Moyes - he gets it right more times than he gets it wrong.
A lesson from History(recent) -
Summer 2004 - How many of us were thinking " I hope we sign Tim Cahill ?"
Summer 2006 - How many of us thought " We really need to sign someone like Lescott from Wolves ?"
Summer 2007 - Did any of us think " We need that Jagielka and what about Pienaar ?"
Just 4 examples of players we have signed during the close season that I am sure were a surprise to most Evertonians - and players who have been very good signings. I can recall last year a few Evertonians doubting the wisdom of signing "Jags" - I wonder what they think now ?!!
I read yesterday
one response to a mailbag article someone saying we would sign Huddlestone cos DM prefers to sign British only - yeah like Howard,Valente,Yobo,Cahill,Arteta etc etc !!!!!
As John says lets keep calm and show some faith in our manager.
After all we could get a couple of last minute crackers like Kilbane and Neville! And what?s the point of paying the market value whenever we can ?pay Everton?s valuation?... a re-write of market economics that should be heralded as revolutionary!
Thank god for Wyness, an economic genuis!
..and Valente will be like three new signings next season...
"EJ Ruanne, You might play Champ Manager on your PC...".
It’s odd because the language sort of looks like English but (and I have a strong feeling this is to do with my age) I have NO idea what any of that means.
(and it’s one n in RuaNe...dumbkoff!)
He hoped Moyes would contact Derby about Robbie Savage, then talk to Savage, then offer him a 5 year deal, but before anything is signed - fuck him off!!!
Plus other sides are strengthening so we will get left behind if we dont get more players in.
Moyes has got a lot of his transfers spot on I don't think anyone could ever doubt that but there are some examples where his stuttering has been a pain in the arse like in the summer of 2005 when we had qualified for the Champoins League and had the best part of the Rooney money and he spent it on defenders and a injury-prone Simon Davies. I am not at a state of panic yet but if it goes on and we still haven't signed anyone by the first week of July then it comes a bit higher the level of frustration..
Perhaps the transfer window will develop late again like last year but that's a very risky plan to take up.
I have faith in Moyes and fully believe he will bring in the right players to improve our team. But who I hear you shout?
Well, all we know for sure is that he has his sights on 2/3 players who are representing their countries at the Euros.
I don’t care about the players other clubs sign. If Arshavin goes somewhere else other than Everton, then it wasn’t meant to be.
I don’t believe anything will happen until at least the two weeks after the Euros have finished. So until then, I’m just gonna sit back and relax!
The Arshavin player mentioned before, after the UEFA cup final was a great talent so I’m told, and was spoken of very highly on here at the time, but Moyes does not seem to want him or does not has a relevant interest in the player (anymore).
There has been numerous names banded about since the season’s conclusion, but no new faces seem to be on their way to Goodison anytime soon. Maybe Moyes is biding his time until a sensible purchase can be made. The man may be a little slow on occasion with regard to formations and tactical prowess as witnessed in previous encounters, but he has made sound purchases player wise for the most time during his tenure.
Let’s hope that continues if we are to make the next step. At least we are heading in the right direction after years of dormant inactivity.
But what does concern me is that Moyes should've had his targets already as he does prefer to have his squad gelled together for the big kick off.
Another thing that worries me is with the Euros on surely someone like Arshavin that Moyes likes and has watched more than once ? why on earth have we not tried to sign him already before there is a chance of his valuation increasing! And another thing that is still worrying me is that Moyes has not signed his contract, which still means no No 2, which also indicates the board still have not satisfied him yet..
And there’s still another 74 days left, so why on earth is anyone getting anxious that we haven’t signed any other players.
I suppose that’s the trouble with the younger generation - they want it, they want it now, and they don’t even seem to care what "it" is, as long as they get it - now
In Moyes we trust. COYB
I would not class Peanut as a new transfer. I wouldn’t class Manny as a new transfer (if that happens). Because we had the use of these players last year. We have had Cars, Tommy, Wessels, Stubbs & possibly/hopefully Shandy VD Meyder all leave the club without them being replaced. We need to build our squad depth as well as the quality. This summer is a very important summer in terms of the numbers and quality that we sign. I have no doubt that DM is looking at all the right players, but signing them - that’s another story! That is where the EFC board get involved......
COYB
I’ve said before that this summer is a very important summer in terms of improving the squad and ensuring that the numbers are right.


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If we sign 6 players at the end of May (in our dreams) say at an average of £25k a week I make that a wage bill of approximately £1.2 million before we are in August and not really kicked a ball in competetive action. Thats a lot of money for our club, and must have some bearing on the timing of new signings.
It just worries me that pre-season approaches and we all know the frustrations of awaiting news from Goodison as the clock ticks to Deadline Day!!