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Dear fellow Evertonians

I feel I must apologise for ruining your Saturday afternoons, sunday evenings, whatever. The reason for this apology comes from when I realised this weekend, that I am a jinx on Everton.

For many years I've watched Everton lose and play badly either at Goodison, various away grounds or on tv, but never before has my jinx been so profound as our last 2 games.

Living in the Netherlands, I get every single Everton game live on tv and I've watched all our games thus far this season and we've been terrible. Against Man U, I was so demoralised, I turned it off just before we scored.

I turned it back on 10 minutes later to find out we had scored and were all over them. Then, slowly, passes went astray and it was back to the usual hoofball.

I turned off after three-quarters of the match against West Ham in absolute disgust and rage. Turns out that immediately after I had turned off, we scored, and again, and again. I found out the final score on this site afterwards.

So here it is... can I never watch Everton ever again? Do I have to take one for the team? I'm not going to watch our next game as an experiment, it's a stupid suggestion I know, but so is Phil Neville in midfield.
Dean Johnson, Haarlem, NL     Posted 10/11/2008 at 18:03:46

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Michael Kenrick
Hehehe... nice one, Dean. I may have to join you in the experiment. I don't think me watching does anyone any good!
Dick Fearon
1   Posted 10/11/2008 at 20:29:38

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In times past I have many times trudged homeward from Goodison muttering ’Thats the last time I’m coming to watch this friggin useless load of rubbish’. Guess what? next home game I would be there roaring my head off, hoping against hope, dreaming of past glories and of those yet to come.
I sympathise with those who cannot bear to watch our team struggling to string more than two passes together while being put to the sword by teams to whom it comes easy.
Dean Johnson may well believe that his watching is a jinx yet I have a different opinion.
From 12,000 miles away it is my absolute concentration, will power and power of positive prayer that brings our success.
There can be no other way to explain how in recent games we managed to drag victory from the gaping jaws of certain defeat.
Is it a combination of Dean not watching and my white knuckled perseverance that does the trick or does the truth lie with those hardy souls who actually go to the ground?
Erik Dols
2   Posted 10/11/2008 at 22:05:04

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Nice one Dean ;-)

I do have a question for you:

I?m moving to Amsterdam soon - not sure what kind of TV provider I?ll get. Do you have the Sport1 package, or did you import Sky? And are you happy with the service provided? Of course, other Holland-based toffees are allowed to answer as well!
EJ Smythe
3   Posted 10/11/2008 at 23:33:57

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Try watching the red shite play and get them relegated. Thanks.
Ben Jones
4   Posted 11/11/2008 at 00:08:54

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Haha.. a different post but I like it! Nice to see a nice hearted post with no feuds for a change

Cheers Dean!
Matthew Douglas
5   Posted 11/11/2008 at 02:23:06

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Hahaha, cheers Dean, had me laughin out loud there with the last comment.
Gareth Mercer
6   Posted 11/11/2008 at 07:08:10

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I totally understand where you are coming from but having Everton in your life is exactly that. It?s not support really, it?s a lifelong commitment, often very painful. But the fact is, we keep coming back for more because it is that way of life for us. Support is a term that suggest a "current state" or something that could change in the future. Thats not us..... we are committed, dedicated lovers of Everton. And this huge part of our lives is with us forever, through the pain and the smatterings of deep, deep joy that you can?t get anywhere else in your life.

COYB
Simon Moore
7   Posted 11/11/2008 at 09:18:24

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I was off on honeymoon for the last 2.5 weeks. We won all 3 games. I would be happy to go off again but will require funding. Any offers...?
Duncan McDine
8   Posted 11/11/2008 at 09:24:18

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Great stuff. The Phil Neville bit had me in stitches.

My own superstition was that we played well when I wasn’t wearing anything Everton related on match day... but even that doesn’t work now so I’ve got my Everton undies back in action!!!

Thanks for the laugh. Dunc
Matt Byrne
9   Posted 11/11/2008 at 09:35:58

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Great post, I am sure we all have our own superstitions. Mine have built up over time, and started with my first season ticket back in 1994-95. We were in a rut and on the way to the game I bought an orange juice, we won, so now on the way to every match I buy OJ.

Then when we got in another rut I looked for something else, now I buy, OJ, two sausage rolls, an eccles cake, The Mirror and don?t wear my Everton shirt to the match any more, but have to wear my Timberland boots, a polo shirt and some jeans, they are all individually lucky.

I have since joined the merchant navy and have a theory that we?re better when I am in the southern hemisphere. I listen to the games on the BBC World Service and have to wear the same outfit to listen to the games, unfortunately I can?t get the same food and drink!

Marc Williams
10   Posted 11/11/2008 at 10:35:38

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Dean - Don?t stop watching in case you irrepairablly damage this effect you obviously have over the ?space, time relativity continuam of the quantum reality magnetic interface?.

What we need to do is harness your power & use it wisely. On Sunday please watch the game as normal until about the 40 minute mark. By this point the hopeless frustration & terrible rage should be building within you. We had a previous case of something similar with another Evertonian David Banner, during the Smith era but his symptons were more destructive & you wouldn?t like him when he?s angry!

Anyways, I?m digressing here, just before the anger takes hold, switch the TV off & on twice. This should result in a phycological two-nil lead at half-time that Boro? are too shite to come back from, so Job Done!

It's up to you if you watch the second half but personally I wouldn?t bother as Moyes fills midfield with right backs & plays midfielders & strikers out of position, in a negative attempt to hold on.

We will be monitoring your progress closely from our lab? in an attempt to find an antidote to hoofball.

Regards - Professor Williams

Ian O'Hanlon
11   Posted 11/11/2008 at 11:03:04

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Excellent post...

This is similar to "...I went to put the kettle on and we scored..." 12 cups of tea later, having disproved the theory, I started on the "...when I went to the toilet we scored..." 12 cups of tea later...

Any chance you could move to Kirkby and see what impact you have there...

Well done...
Antony Matthews
12   Posted 11/11/2008 at 11:15:35

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On a similar line... When I met my wife, I started taking her to see the Blues. Every time we went, we not only never won, but we never scored too! So I stopped taking her. Now she has turned to Bolton Wanderers. Yes you've guessed it....... When I take her to see the Blues play Bolton, they don?t score and we win!! Happy days.
Peter Howard
13   Posted 11/11/2008 at 11:44:20

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Watch the screen by reflecting it off a mirror. It worked for Jason when he decapitated the Gorgon. No inference to Phil Neville is intended in this post.
Kevin Jones
14   Posted 11/11/2008 at 11:55:19

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Talking of superstitions, I always go in the same turnstile. 1st one for the Upper Bullens right hand side gate. Get to the Fulham game and there?s about 5 people queuing in my turnstile and the other one was empty. Copper on duty obviously a Red said "other one's empty" to which I replied "Can?t mate, lucky turnstile this one". I thought he was going to piss himself, he laughed that much. Problem is ? I wasn?t joking!!!
Steven May
15   Posted 11/11/2008 at 12:20:51

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I started following Everton just as they won the league in the Ball, Kendall, Harvey era. I have considered following many other teams during the 38 years (!) since but could never decide which needed my jinxing powers more than the rest.
Geh Looker
16   Posted 11/11/2008 at 09:50:35

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Erik,

Sport 1 normally covers all the Prem games; however, on a Saturday it can get a bit tight as they have 8 channels to cover all their games/sports. Occasionally if there's a couple of German games, a big golf/tennis tournament and there is more than 4 games kicking off at 3pm, then 1 or 2 may get bumped but they tend to be West Ham/West Brom ? whoever's name is last on the fixture list basically.

Normally you get English comentary as well, if your bothered. Well worth the 15 euros, when you add Italian and Spanish. Also has all CL games for next season ;0)
Dean Johnson
17   Posted 11/11/2008 at 12:13:13

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Thanks for the comments guys.

Erik - Sport 1 on UPC - I get phone, interweb and all tv and sports (no films) for 86 euros a month. Absolute bargain considering there is wall-to-wall A-team every day!!.

I also agree with the comments about Everton being part of your life. It certainly is, and always will be, but I certainly need to try the trial seperation, just the 1 game mind!

As someone said, maybe I?ll just watch the redshite and get them relegated instead! :-)

COYB!!!!
Col Wills
18   Posted 11/11/2008 at 12:40:33

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Nice one, Dean. I tend to catch some of the Blues away matches at a little boozer in Crosby and unfortunately, a couple of redshite mates usually come with me. Well, one of them is such a ?laugh? that he thinks every time he goes the toilet the opposition scores, so consequently, he goes all the time. Oh what joy against West Ham when we scored an he got absolutely soaked by a load of ?manic? (and I mean manic, the place went mental!) Blues on 3 separate occasions!
Pete Clark
19   Posted 11/11/2008 at 12:54:22

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During the glory days of the 80s, we played and drew at home to Ipswich in the cup and we did as we did every home game and went down County Road and then into town to drink ourselves stupid and have a good time. By 2am I was bladdered but somehow in the arms of a young woman. She disappeared on the way up Saint Anne St as she couldn't understand what i was saying. At that point my thoughts went to the game that day and I thought to myself that if I run all the way home (to Fazakerley), we would win the replay down at Portman Rd.

I started right outside Saint Anne St police station and was just coming up to Walton Lane when a black Maria transit van pulled up alongside me and the copper who was driving asked me why I was running. I told him why (as I continued running) and they sped off laughing but I continued all the way home.

Anyway for those who cannot recall the replay, we won with Kevin Sheedy netting a fantastic twice-taken free-kick. I did not have to do this again back then as we generally beat everyone in sight anyway and I will not be doing it with this present team since that would require more miles than Forrest Gump ran.

Tony Williams
20   Posted 11/11/2008 at 13:28:57

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I have a lucky hat that I save for special occassions, I say "hat" what I mean is that I have had several because the luck runs out and they need geting rid off.

I also sacrifice virgins but they are hard to come by in Walton.
Santosh Benjamin
21   Posted 11/11/2008 at 13:38:57

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Great post, Dean. I enjoyed the comments too... really was fun... especially Kevin.
I'm not sure if you are the only jinx... the last 2 weekends, I missed the games on TV as I was travelling both times. Had to call and ask a friend about the score. Maybe it's me....

When me and the wife watch the games that are televised, I always sit on the same side of the couch...coz I'm superstitious about it... COYB

Patty Beesley
22   Posted 11/11/2008 at 14:22:28

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With me, I hold my "Little Book of Everton" throughout the game and rub my thumb along the word "Everton" at the top of the cover non-stop throughout the game. Believe me, it's difficult trying to use the loo without letting go of my book but I won?t. If we are losing, I start rubbing "Everton" harder and harder and then when it results in a goal, I?m convinced it's all down to me!! How pathetic!!
Gareth Mercer
23   Posted 11/11/2008 at 14:45:18

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I guess if we are talking about strange pre-match good luck actions then mine would be getting beaten up by the wife for leaving the house at 10am every other Saturday and not getting back until 10pm (I live in London). Does that count as a superstition?

I tell you, the amount of wooden spoons she gets through is incredible.
Ciarán McGlone
24   Posted 11/11/2008 at 15:19:13

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What an excellent thread.

Being the only ?Evertonian in the village?...I usually watch the games accompanied by a gaggle of Manc and Shite supporters..

Putting them through the torture of watching us is usually my lucky charm.... that and my ?85 NEC shirt which I wear like a whale that's swallowed a waterbed!
Joe McMahon
25   Posted 11/11/2008 at 16:02:34

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Some of these superstitions go back years...... this again is the fault of MOYES & KIRKBY!.
John de Frece
26   Posted 11/11/2008 at 16:13:28

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Yes, I know the feeling well. I live in Israel and I only get back "home" to Liverpool once in a blue moon. So a few years ago I managed to come over conveniently to see us manage to lose to Tranmere. I remain convinced that I am personally responsible for that defeat.
Peter Howard
27   Posted 11/11/2008 at 17:09:03

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Pete Clarke
You must have drank a Micky Finn that day ? cos Sheedy scored his twice-taken free kick in the GP game. I went the replay at Portman Road. Sharpy scored a pen conceded by Russell Osman (I don?t think he?s Leon?s dad!) but anyway a great post. Keep running!
Ajay Timothy
28   Posted 11/11/2008 at 18:57:03

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I am glad that I am not the only one that does crazy things to make our team win. I have an Everton ball that was signed by the 2005 team. The air has escaped and someone suggested that if I put air in it, that would result in Everton winning. I duly obliged and guess what they have won the last 3. Now I am thinking if I inflated it further would they win with style or would it undo the good that putting the air did.

So I put it to all of you. Do you want them to conceivably win or lose with style or win "ugly"?

Got to go. I have to take my medicine now.
Ray Robinson
29   Posted 11/11/2008 at 19:47:58

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I used to have a lucky coin which I carried everywhere in the 80?s and we usually won whenever and wherever we played.

But my claim to being a jinx was in respect of Liverpool. My dad, being a red, had a season ticket in the Kemlyn Road stand in the 60s along with his mate who two or three times a season couldn?t make a match because of his shift work at Octel or Odex in Ellesmere Port ? can?t remember which. Anyway, muggins me used to take his ticket to watch the Reds but everyone in the stand knew that I was a Blue. Whenever, I turned up Liverpool either drew or lost ? which even in those days was pretty unusual. I would get some pretty strong (but good natured) abuse because everyone knew something untoward was going to happen when I turned up. The best moment was when Liverpool played Burnley one season. I?m sure that Liverpool were 3-nil up and everyone thought that the jinx had been broken ? but back game Burnley to score 3 times and draw the match! Please some statto confirm when that was ? probably around 1968, I would guess. I was also at Anfield for the famous screened FA Cup Derby when Bally scored the winner at Goodison!

Anyway, eventually the jinx faded in the 70?s and now the only time that I go to Anfield, which is for the Derby, the RS normally win at our expense. Maybe it?s payback time!
Jonathan Tasker
30   Posted 12/11/2008 at 13:07:15

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On Saturday I stopped listening to talkSHITE at 1-0 to West Ham; I couldn?t bear that twat Collymore any more.

And then we scored 3 once I?d stopped.

During our fabulous period of the 80s I had a watch that cost me £1.99 from a petrol station. I loved that watch so much I actually gave it a name, William. I am convinced to this day that our demise started when William stopped working, in the middle of 1987.

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