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On the subject of tactics & formations, does anyone have any thoughts on the position managers take up during a match. Let me expand: I sit in the upper Gwaladys Street and therefore view the game from an aerial perspective; as such, you tend to see how games are panning out ? opposition formations, weaknesses, strengths etc etc. The point I?m coming to is that, all too often, the fans see (more than the managers) how games are panning out. This I believe is due to the fact that most managers sit on level with players and basically all they see is bodies moving.
Might sound bollocks really but what's your thoughts?
Garry Martin, Posted 17/11/2008 at 14:06:20
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Andy Holden and Jimmy Lumsden were sat in the main stand yesterday with a tv next to them showing the replays. They were also next to a guy with a laptop which had loads of match stats on. I'm guessing they give their ideas as to what's going on to Moyes at HT, or as said in the last post by a phone in the dugout etc...
This goes back to an earlier post... Why Chris Woods is always on the phone. Another contributor guessed that he was speaking to Lumsden and Holden in the stand. It would make sense I guess.
I would gladly be miked up to Moyes -
"Make the substitution, Moyes!"
"Tell Jags to stop hoofing it"
"Tell Arteta to get his corners past the first man or let someone else take the friggin set pieces"
Anyone else have any advice?
"Make the substitution, Moyes!"
"Tell Jags to stop hoofing it"
"Tell Arteta to get his corners past the first man or let someone else take the friggin set pieces"
Anyone else have any advice?
How about "Don?t take advice from anyone who has to pay to get into the ground".
Is this a wind-up? Maybe you could give Moyes your number and he could call you during the game.
I was about to say, ’I see your point, but he needs to feed info onto the pitch throughout the game’, but then I realised you said upper Gwladys and not the top balcony.
You get a rubbish perspective from upper Gwladys anyway.
In my opinion, top balcony give you the best view of the match - pity about the atmosphere, though.
You get a rubbish perspective from upper Gwladys anyway.
In my opinion, top balcony give you the best view of the match - pity about the atmosphere, though.
Tim, the guy with the laptop with Holden and Lumsden was probably OV Collyer teaching them how to use Football Manager!
.........I believe Moyes thought about sitting higher up in the stand but the club only offered a "restricted view" seat..........
Nice one Paul Daly!
Mind you with what I’ve had to watch this year, I may be applying for a restricted view next season!
Mind you with what I’ve had to watch this year, I may be applying for a restricted view next season!
If DM sat in the back of Lower Bullens, he will see what I saw, NOTHING. It is like looking through a letterbox, eh I mean, it’s what I would imagine looking through a letterbox looks like, phew, think I got away with it.
Eddy, you mean the post would get in your way?
It wouldn’t matter if Moyes watched the game from the roof of the main stand, he would still be tactically inept.
You are right, Alan Clarke and Brian Waring. Osman playing out of position, no shots from Saha, no shots from anyone; Yakubu a lazy twat, timewasting putting Vaughan on for 2 minutes, Arteta and his love in with the first man. Everyone in the ground can see that wherever they are sat. So why can't Moyes?
Venables did this at QPR. Made them build him his own command bunker in the stands. Got a bunch of good time jokers like Stan Bowles and Gerry Francis to within 1 point of Paisley’s Liverpool side one year.
I suppose Moyes could take up residence in one of the executive boxes but that would require football to be more about the sport and less about the really important matter of revenue.................
I suppose Moyes could take up residence in one of the executive boxes but that would require football to be more about the sport and less about the really important matter of revenue.................
Bunker or no bunker, it was Dave Sexton who nearly took QPR to the Title in 1975-76. Dave Thomas on the left wing and they hammered us 5-0 at Loftus Road that season.
Anyway, back to now and Moyes?s only real failings are leaving substitutions too long and letting Arteta take every corner and free kick. A bit of variety is needed and if I see another corner leave the pitch before it has landed in the box I will scream!!!!
Anyway, back to now and Moyes?s only real failings are leaving substitutions too long and letting Arteta take every corner and free kick. A bit of variety is needed and if I see another corner leave the pitch before it has landed in the box I will scream!!!!
The great Walter Smith use to sit next to Kenwright on high during the first half at Goodison. A lot of good that did him...
Australian Football coaches always sit in a specially made coaches box in the stands and relay their instructions to an assistant who sits on the bench who then passes the information onto the players. I am surprised that it is not done more in the EPL. I think I remember that when some managers get banned from the touchline that their teams play better.
I think Moyes should sit a little higher... preferably in Scotland somewhere. "We are on the way backwards with Moyes Army, we arent going anywhere, and we will really shake them up when Arteta beats the first man cos Everton are the greatest football team on City Road" That should sort the atmosphere problem out too????
Yep it was indeed Sexton at QPR in 1975. Venables got them promoted again and up to 5th in the top flight before taking the Barcelona job. His view from the stand bunker may have been at Crystal Palace not QPR ? when you get to my age the memory is not so good.
My point is that Garry?s suggestion is an interesting one and has been tried. Managers presumably feel that being close to the action is preferable to any overview a seat in the stands gives them.
My point is that Garry?s suggestion is an interesting one and has been tried. Managers presumably feel that being close to the action is preferable to any overview a seat in the stands gives them.
I don?t care where Moyes sits anymore, in the dugout or in the main stand, just so long as the overated muppet does so at Celtic next season!
You would think he would of seen hundreds upon hundreds of video clips of where the team’s failings are and then go about rectifying them. It’s plain for all to see that the team lacks width and a creative spark in midfield. I don’t think putting Moyes on a blimp hovering above Goodison, would make a difference. He may be a motivator and a leader of men, but he ain’t no tactician.
Brendan Mac, Moyes obviously doesn’t listen to anyone who actually pays his wages hence his incredibly defensive, clueless in the final 3rd tactics. If only he would take some advice, we might actually see some football this season.
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