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Regulars may have noted that I haven't posted since the Wigan game and I have to confess that the performance left me with no heart to do so.

It was my birthday last weekend and the old man, who doesn't get to many games these days, treated our whole family to a "Latics Night Out" package, which included a pre-match meal and drinks with all the trimmings. The downside was the game itself which, by any standard, was appalling. I just felt sorry for the old fella blowing his pension on that garbage on my account. Because, as he said on the way home, "the charlotte russe moved about more than some of our lads!"

Out and about in Formby at lunchtime today I bumped into someone who knows a thing or two about what goes on at Everton and he told me he had never seen Our Davey more depressed. Apparently, with no money for Christmas we can expect some major wheeler-dealings and at least one departure will come as a shock.

Could our man be about to cash in on Arteta or the Yak? Is Lescott set for a move to the smoke? Could Fellaini be about to return whence he came? "Rule nothing out," I was told ? so who is it to be? Answers in a posting, please!
Richard Dodd, Freshfield     Posted 29/11/2008 at 14:30:14

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Michael Kenrick
Richard, are you actually human and sane? I really had to check your IP address after reading that you honestly thought Everton ? your wonderful Everton under the masonic guidance of he-who-can-do-no-wrong Moyes ? they actually played "garbage"!!! Stone the beeding' crows...

I'd become accustomed to the fact that you were incapable of critical analysis and will now have to re-calibrate... although it was perhaps to be expected that you did not dwell on the abysmal performance and instead look to things being spiced up one way or another at Christmas (surely you mean "in January"??? But there I go again, being literal... not a strong point for you is it?).

Meanwhile... the rest of us will continue to deal with the Here and Now.

Kev Prytherch
1   Posted 29/11/2008 at 21:14:14

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Lescott - Arsenal
Yakubu - Spurs
Arteta - Madrid
Howard - Arsenal (Almunia’s shite)
Yobo - Arsenal (They are piss poor defensively
Any other thoughts?
Harry Reynalds
2   Posted 29/11/2008 at 22:57:31

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God it must be bad if old Doddy?s posted a negative post.

I reckon Lescott will be off to Arsenal, and maybe Arteta to Atletico Madrid. Bout £20 mil between them if were lucky.
Alan Clarke
3   Posted 29/11/2008 at 22:56:24

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Why the fuck did Moyes sign that contract then if he’s so depressed? Why doesn’t he try and get on with the job he’s paid so handsomely to do? His dour mood is obviously affecting the whole bloody team. One thing I thought we’d always have with Moyes is a team with a bit of fight, even if the standard of football is shite, but we’ve even lost that.

The apathy that Moyes has created within the club and amongst the fans is his worst crime and while he continues to mouth off about what little money he has, the depression only worsens. Why doesn’t he at least keep his gob shut? I don’t think there is a more clueless manager in the whole of the football league. And if he going to sell someone, I honestly don’t care, they’re all absolute garbage.
Marc Williams
4   Posted 29/11/2008 at 23:04:33

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Doddy - Whatever Medication you are now on just keep taking it, as you are now beginning to sound quite rational & lucid. The down side for you will be that here in the real world things are very depressing and you?re going to have to come to terms with a lot of issue?s you?ve been in denial about. It?s like we?ve been trying to tell you since about the 2nd of July and things will get an awful lot worse before they get better .Just don?t relapse and start talking about pushing for 4th (or was it 10th) next time we scrape a point or three!

Now as long as Tony Marsh doesn?t undergo some bizarre personality change and come on to tell us about
"The positives from the Wigan game"
We can move on in broad agreement as a ?Blue band of brothers? to face a very uncertain future.

COYB
Gavin Ramejkis
5   Posted 30/11/2008 at 01:11:41

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The way the club is being destroyed I wouldn’t put it past Agent Black Bill to sell anyone, and knowing how shite he runs the place probably for buttons and on the never never.
Sean Condon
6   Posted 30/11/2008 at 01:12:33

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Oh my.

Does anybody seriously think that Wenger would go within a country mile of the current Lescott?

And the way he?s playing, I think the MLS, or maybe the Greek league would be more to Arteta?s liking.
Alan Kirwin
7   Posted 30/11/2008 at 02:10:32

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Richard:

Sad for your dad, but more shocked to note that reality has knocked on your door at last. Hate to tell you this, but we have been shite since last May.

More to the point though, "our Davey" has been deeply depressed since last May too. He was invisible between end of last season and way into pre-season. When he did surface his demeanour & body language were negative beyond belief. We are all human,but we aren’t all on large 7-figure salaries & he should have decided to stay or go & not dithered around as he did.

I have seen no vitality, excitement, interest or empathy in Moyes this season. Never in a month of Sunday’s should he have been awarded such a ludicrously generous contract after overseeing such a dreadful start to a season (and I mean up till now) and including 2 cup exits. Kenwright should have given him an ultimatum in the summer to crack-on or crack-off.

No pleasure in saying this, because he has brought much good and some principles to the club, but he really has gone as far as he can. He looks as though he is weighed down by expectation & an inability to deliver. More so now when £3.5m is going his way each year. No credit crunch for him.

And whilst so many players have been off colour, I still place most of the blame at Moyes’ feet after the impact of his behaviour over pre-season & into the new season. The players see a manager who was throwing his toys out the pram, deeply depressed (and not minding who knew it) and unprofessional. Then they see him suddenly jump on to over £3m and I think several are not impressed.

I was going to run through what I think we should do with certain players, but frankly I’ve reached the point where I don’t much give a toss. I would be deeply sad to see Felatio go, or Yak. But we are in such disarray, so dispirited and so utterly grim to watch, that tinkering by the guy who’s caused most of it will be an irrelevance.

No. It’s time for a change I’m afraid. Better now than when we’re near the bottom and in crisis. At least now there’s a good opportunity to salvage a half-decent season.
Derek Thomas
8   Posted 30/11/2008 at 02:29:19

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Rule nothing out eh??...is that up to and including Moyes. What better Christmas present could we get.

If there are out goings, who are the incomings?? or is this another sale to pay the bouncing cheques ala JMcF.

All together now....All I want for Christmas is some pass and move, some pass and move, some pass and move...All I want for Christmas etc etc
Anthony Dyer
9   Posted 30/11/2008 at 02:48:59

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As Groucho Marx said there ain?t no Sanity Claus especially for long suffering Evertonians.

There is nothing that could happen this season at this club that could possibly suprise any of us.

Maybe Kenwright is going to jump ship and take DM with him?

More likely is that The Big Fella will return to whence he came , quickly followed by the Yak to tomorrow?s opponents.

I honestly believe that all of BK?s robbing Peter to pay Paul syndrome has come to an abrupt end.

The credit crunch has only just begun and is already hitting household named business?s . Let?s hope that our banks don?t pull the plug , because that will put us in a worse position than Leeds United.

I notice that PNE have crept into the play-off positons , life couldn?t be that cruel could it?
Jeremy Benson
10   Posted 30/11/2008 at 06:35:09

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Lescott to arsenal?

Crikey, I know Wenger is often amusingly short-sighted to what happens on the pitch...but he isn’t THAT blind!
Dave Wilson
11   Posted 30/11/2008 at 06:32:10

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Oh Richard

Why give these bellyaching fuckers the ammo ?

There are people on here who simply wont be satisfied until we are all wallowing in their particular brand of misery

Instead of trying to overcome the considerable handicaps the team faces, They prefer to constantly point at the said handicaps - usually because the glaringly obious has just dawned on them

"Kenwright is clueless etc etc"
We know that, how many different ways can you find to say it ?

"Moyes is dour, tactically inept, losing his blaa blah blah"
We know this too, but it doesnt stop the football Einsteins who have just realised what the rest of us knew years ago, suddenly screaming it in every post.



It you’re an ugly twat, you’re an ugly twat. They only thing guarenteed to make you feel worse, is people reminding you of this every day.

I’m off to the game, coz I have a hope, a belief that we can win and I will be roaring the boys on.
I’ll leave the chicken hearted and the hopeless to spend the rest of the day dreaming up new ways to state the blindingly fucken obvious if we lose.

Sharpen you’re poison pens, but ask yourself this . . .
Kenwright or Moyes are going nowhere, you know this, so what is it you think you’re trying to achieve
Trevor Lynes
12   Posted 30/11/2008 at 08:06:32

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DM will not go..anywhere and I said this while his contract was unsigned..He has one of the most secure jobs in the league and he cannot be blamed if the side flop because he has had no financial backing to compare with other sides who have not performed....eg; Keane..Even if he left his image is intact..he took EFC as far as anyone could albeit without playing decent football..The players also have no competition and can play whenever they are fit whether they are bad or not..Jags is the only one who plays reasonably consistently and gives 100% every game..We have made legends of no marks in the recent past because we have been grasping at straws...its been patently obvious to any true blue supporter that the whole set up is rotten...poor scouting system, no marketing, no decent player would come to us and those that stay are just doing ’JOBS’...football is supposed to be entertaining and I am afraid we are bottom of the bill on that score.....Im afraid DM is the Ghost of Christmas Future and Old Bill is Scrooge before he was transformed....lets hope 2009 brings something to really cheer about !!!!
Mike McLean
13   Posted 30/11/2008 at 09:56:47

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"Our Davey" being the man taking home obscene amounts of money for producing trash, I assume?

Moyes had one trick ... inspiring players of very modest ability to perform out of their skins. Evidently, his treatment of them has resulted in him losing the dressing room.

He has no other tricks to offer but that won’t worry Chairman Bill unduly. It will be falling attendances and decreasing merchandise sales that will finally put an end to this dreary reign of negativity.

I refuse to condemn the players. They’re just not really top five material.

Colin Jones
14   Posted 30/11/2008 at 10:33:27

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So Richard Dodd, the sychophant?s sychophant is beginning to see the light at last! He?s finally recognised - albeit with some prompting from his owd fella that Everton are dishing up garbage. Perhaps it was the quality of the grub on offer at the JJB that finally made the fare on offer by the team leave a nasty taste.

But one-oft repeated pronouncement by this Kenwright/Moyes arse-wiper looks certain to come true. His ?Tenth is Good? mantra so reviled by most of us may this season become fact ? and many performances like the one at Wigan will make it a fucking miracle!

John Andrews
15   Posted 30/11/2008 at 10:52:08

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Good grief!! The Doddster has finally realised that all is not well at Goodison Park. Shock horror!!

Sadly I can see some of the players wanting away, possibly in January, and for good reason. The reason being that they would prefer to play in positions that are not alien to them. Lescott in particular would do well at Arsenal as he would be in a team that PLAY football as opposed to the dross regularly served up by Moyes.

As stated in a different thread, Moyes appears to have lost the dressing room. As soon as that happens it is time to go.

Tony Waring
16   Posted 30/11/2008 at 11:02:07

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We Blues certainly like wallowing in our collective misery. I guess it comes from being a famous club with an illustrious history, which is going through an unpretty phase ? and has been for many years now.

But the fact is we are in good company; the rest of the Premier League is about the same with the exception of the Sky 4 who have the money to escape the rat race and even then, vide Arsenal, they have occasional hiccups. In fact there is precious little football on offer to compare with La Liga. You should see Messi?s goals against Sevilla last night - that?s footy.

Most of the Premier teams will have a purple patch now and again, even Everton, but the vast majority lack the consistency to win trophies including the shower across the park for all that they?ve spent. We have to be realistic and accept, however grudgingly, that the game has undergone a mega change over the last 10-15 years.

What does disappoint me about Everton ? more than anything else ? is the evident lack of fight and determination. That?s probably down to DM and I just hope he?s aware of his responsibility to club and supporters.

Chris Webb
17   Posted 30/11/2008 at 11:13:16

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I 100% agree with Tony Waring, the sad fact is the top 4 aside everyone else is much of a muchness, can be good but often poor, some times very poor. Being a London Toffee, I am going to the game today sitting with 4 Spurs season ticket holders I am dreading it!! I just pray for some miracle and we actually play.

Too many players are in their comfort zone it doesn't matter how bad they play they will be back in week after week (Lescott, Arteta, Yak, Osman the main culprits) I have never hated watching us as much as I do at this moment and that includes the relegation seasons of recent past.

We are a Bad Bad side!! But then again so are the other 15 sides. How many of the these teams do you enjoy watching ....NONE
Michael Evans
18   Posted 30/11/2008 at 11:23:13

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Richard, I may often have totally disagreed with your comments but I have always admired your courage in continuing to state your views despite the derision they have evoked. I would just like to state that IMO you have proved again your courage by submitting this post.
David Mathieson
19   Posted 30/11/2008 at 12:31:58

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Micheal Evans
I have always admired you courage etc
I have read many of Doddy's ramblings and, to be fair, 'courage' is not a word I would use. Doddy is one of the people who will not say anything bad, plod along hopeing everything will be ok. Correct me if I am wrong but is it not this attitue wich led to the Nazis?
If you sit around and do nothing or say nothing people are going to take mickey, ie Moyes.
Robbie Muldoon
20   Posted 30/11/2008 at 13:38:11

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Next 4 fixtures...

Spurs away
Villa home
Man Cuty away
Chelsea home

If we take 0 points from these fixtures, as I fear is possible, I think Moyes should fuck off.
Tony Montana
21   Posted 30/11/2008 at 14:33:28

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We are fucking crap... period! I am more likely to find a pile of rocking-horse shit at my front door than hope Everton pick up any points during the next four games.
Nil satis nil optimism.
George Brooks
22   Posted 30/11/2008 at 20:14:03

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Today just goes to show what we all know and love about this Premier League... even when we slag our team for a woeful performance (Wigan away... me included), they come out and perform like that against Spurs. God it's exciting, could you imagine being Arsenal or Hull or Man Utd or Chelsea who win ALL the time? How boring!!
Erik Dols
23   Posted 30/11/2008 at 20:32:48

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Richard, could you please write a piece like this every week? If it inspires our team to a fairly comfortable win I’ll be more than happy to read it over and over again!
Gary Sedgwick
24   Posted 01/12/2008 at 00:33:57

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So Tony Montana, what does rocking-horse shit look like? Me thinks you are Tony Marsh in disguise. If you are actually Tony Montana please continue to post but post items that actually contribute to the debate and do not contain trivial, irrelevant substance matter. Unless, that is, you revel in shit.

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