Probably because if the stick he gets on here is anything like the stick he gets in the dugout at games, he?s more than within his right to have a go back at them.

We got caught cold yesterday, twice and Moyes was heartily pissed off that after a good performance (apart from the obvious lapses) we blew it.

And another thing, since when did you or anyone else watching the game keep him in a job???

Get a grip mate!

Whilst I agree he shouldn’t have gestured, at least it show he cares.. A lot of Evertonians can not wait call him and the team for everything the minute they go behind! Victor was injured so he takes him off and we score and nearly get a point.. I just wish Everton fans would get behind the team instead of constant barracking the players.. The way Fellaini has been treated by sections of the supports is nothing short of a disgrace! Get behind the team instead of wanting them to fail so you can slag Moyes off!!!!!!!

John... I hate to tell you, but Victor had to come out, as truthfully we were playing with 10 with him on there. I know it sounds strange but he was worthless on the pitch, and to get a body in there was the right move.

I watched the match from the comfort of home and his reaction was not shown. I think it probably would have been better for the staff to be thinking of returning to a four man rear guard after the goal was scored then to celebrate. Lescott was looking for support at the end from someone inside of him, but there was no Phil there.

You claim to be a Moyes fan, John, but have no hesitation in labelling his £60k per week salary as "undeserved". Hardly sounds like a ringing endorsement from a "Moyes fan" to me!

I think he hit one of the staff with his coat as well...

Bloody drama queen.

Let's just face it we were destined to lose. Any other day with the same performance, even including the shoddy defending, we would have won.

I have to agree that as far as I know it's the board not the fans who keep the manager in a job. As for his salary being undeserved, name one player or manager who is worth what they get?

Moyes did indeed make the gesture, all to do with the response to Vic?s exit. Loved his passion, he was right to get caught up the in moment. Unfortunately, it was premature. I know, my son had just told me to sit down ?there were 30 seconds left? when the inevitable happened... Sickening. We will need to be strong to bounce back from this ? unfortunately, isn?t it Chelsea at home next? But what a way to improve an abysmnal home record.

Will the Board keep faith with the manager even if he distances himself from the supporters? Will they keep him on if a large group of fans stop attending Goodison because they don?t feel as if they belong?

I wrote yesterday that NO former Everton manager would react in such a manner to the Everton crowd (if that is what DM did). David Moyes has to realise that he is an ambassador for the club and cannot sink to the level of those who vent their spleens.

By Evertonian standards, David Moyes has had a relatively easy ride during his time at Goodison. His dithering over the contract has managed to cast doubt in supporters' minds over his commitment to the club.

Anichebe was carrying an injury ? hopefully not serious ? which was pretty obvious. When the substitution came in, there were many around me who were screaming about Moyes taking him off. Even when I and a couple of others pointed out Anichebe being injured, this still wasn?t good enough for the morons who continued to call Moyes for everything.

I thought the substitution was good. Baines to full back, Lescott to CH and Jags up top. It worked. We got caught out by something we have done a couple of times this season. Howard could have kept the ball longer in hindsight and saw the whistle out but WE were going for it; it backfired big time.

Apart from the usual morons who will never give Moyes an inch, the support was good in the ground.

Well from what i saw, Moyesy wasn?t just gesturing to the Gwladys Street End, at first he was facing the Bullens where the Villa supporters were but I just think he was celebrating that goal in that manner because of the timing of it, and because it was the equaliser as well... and the fact the Villa fans were chanting ?who the fucking hell are you? as well as other stuff.

I just think Moyesy got caught in the moment and was celebrating like that to say to those Villa fans, "Get in, that's who we fucking are, take that ya cunts!!" But we?ll never know until Moyesy explains himself, ya never know it might've been aimed at some Everton supporters sat in Gwladys Street or whereever but to me it just shows that he cares ? good on him for showing his emotions and what it means to him?!!

I'm glad someone pointed out that Vic was injured!! It was quite obvious!! He walked of the pitch looking in pain!! So if any toffee fans got on Moyes's back because of that then good on him for getting angry about it!! He's not mental, he wouldn't take off a striker when we haven't got anyone good enough to replace him unless he was injured!!!

If he did react in that manner then good on him. Some Everton fans need to have the same passion as him sometimes and get behind the team. We have been punching above our weight for a few seasons now and without adequate financial backing we were always going to struggle to maintain these 4th, 5th and 6th placed finishes.

Ok, so the football hasn?t been what we have expected and the home form is poor but I believe we?ll be up there come the end of the season. Moyes is a good manager, I?m happy he?s signed a new contract and hope he?s here for years to come.

Moyes looked visibly stressed on MOTD2. It's very possible he was just gesturing to everything around the ground that messed up for him that day. I don?t care what it was for because he?s entitled to gesture with what the team is putting him through, plus it was very funny. I think your post is nothing more than tabloid-esque shit stirring.

I think moyes was aiming for that soft clown who's always jumping up and down on the touchline, Martin O'Neill, when he threw his coat ? just a pity he was using Phil Neville's aiming technique and toatally missed. Excellent game though ? just a pity we never got what we deserved, which was a win or a point at the very least. EFC.

Gordan Strachan to Sunderland leaves Celtic post vacant. For some reason in Dublin, Celtic fans are against Strachan (even though he's won 3 titles for them) and are vocally voicing their want for a certain Mr Moyes... You know what ? You can have him!

After the last 12 months of hoofbal and inadequate signings, I hope he gets the Celtic job. His massive salary with the Blues would be a problem but hopefully the lure of Champions League football would attract Moyes up north.

His replacement is simple ? Slaven Bilic. Ex-player with an impressive managerial CV. His Croatia team played excellent counter-attacking football and I believe this would be perfect for us.

Let's be honest, we will rarely boss teams on the pitch and Slaven would definitely be the way forward. COYB

Slaven Bilic!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!.... hahahahahahahahahaha!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I?m sure he?d come back... we?re the equivalent of the lottery for that guy!!

John
I come from the opposite direction.

I?ve never been a Moyes fan but with the shit he was dished up during the summer and the squad he has got I give him credit for not only motivating himself but the team which I thought were magnificent yesterday. Moyes has come out and criticised himself this morning for sending Jags up front insearch of the equaliser and you wont find many if any managers doing that.

He might not be a great tactician but find me anyone as principled and determined.

And by the way the salary is whatever the going rate is for top 10 managers in the Prem so I wish people would stop treating it as a stick to beat the manager with.

Yesterday proved to me that with the supporters behind them this tiny squad who wear the badge with pride are capable of good football and taking on the best.

I think we would find it very difficult to attract any decent manager at the moment. No money, paper thin squad, unresolved stadium issue etc, etc.

I can’t see an international manager leaving his job for that! He would be on a hiding to nothing.

As one of those ungrateful ones who sits in the Street end, i didnt see anything of DM’s reaction, I was too happy and celebrating with my fellow Street Enders.
I’m just getting my voice back after yesterday, the atmosphere was much, much better than of late because we saw the lads actually fight for everything. They showed some great spirit and so did the crowd. If Dm did have a go at the Street End then he needs to go the ear equivalent of Spec Savers!
The noise was raw and aggressive, even when Jags dropped the mother of all boo boos, the crowd instantly chanted his name. Bad supporters? I don’t think so.

Moyes just does not do criticism. Almost without exception,the crowd at Goodison have laid off him ? even through the shite he has served up this year. When we do start, only that £65k a week will stop him doing a Roy Keane.

I can't believe people are saying that this was a good substitution!?

Bringing Anichebe off when he was clearly fucked - Fair Enough....

But putting a defender upfront when we have a young striker on the bench... totally baffles me!

Lukas may be young and inexperienced, but he's a striker all the same, he gets paid to put the ball in the net!!

Whilst I love to see passion from our players, manager, coach etc, I would much rather had seen him be calm and bring a proper shape back to the team and then celebrate at the end.

He clearly got over-excited and lacked focus on the job in hand - just like his players with the consequences of losing the game. Shame. Shows he has a long way to go.

I think you got it completely wrong. Like the rest of us, he was just going crazy after what looked like a great and deserved escape.

Moyes is as big a prat as those he employs. How can he bollock Lescott for behaving like a moron when he does the same hmself? Howard should just have booted his clearance into the crowd. Game over. None of them would pass an IQ test if their life depended on it. As it is, they just collect their £30k (Manager double that!) for losing.

I guarantee you are more upset than those buggers!

I think some people forget that this Summer just gone David Moyes only wanted the best for Everton - ie some top quality players - but was let down by BK and KW.

He’s had to question why he stays at Everton, can he do any more and eventually he decided he could, signed the contract and we are now returning to something like normality.

Give the bloke a break. Just ask fans at most other Premier League Clubs - they’d all have him, bar the SKY 4 and he’s only going to be appreciated by some morons when he’s gone.

He stays because he couldn?t get a fucking job anywhere else ? at least one that would pay him the obscene amount Kenwright pays him!

How come Moyes keeps re-iterating what a great chairman he works with if he was so let down by him?

Anyway, for all his gesturing, Moyes must have looked a prize twat when Villa went and scored their winner. Perhaps if he’d gestured ’calm it’ or ’just hoof it’ to Howard, we’d have got something from the game.

I was proud of my team yesterday.

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All you Moyes arse lickers should stop and think that it is because of his pathetic transfer dealings in the summer that we are in this position. Only Blackburn have a worse home record than us so Moyes should expect a bit of stick. I think he is too well treated by the fans. Perhaps the next one of you who kisses his arse should stick a rocket up there.

I booed Moyes two seasons ago when he made his infamous substitution against Tottenham but yesterday he made his sub for sensible reasons - Anichebe was injured. Give the man a break - after wondering for a while whether he was really arsed, he showed a passion that I welcome. Also, yes we should have shut up shop but when we do so earlier in a match, he gets accused of negativity.

I prefer to remember the good points from yesterday - i.e. a good positive performance, pride from the players and good vocal support from the crowd.

Incidentally was someone fiddling the attendance yesterday? If there was only 32,000 there, then there was never 31,000 against Fulham. And if there actually were 32,000 there, then worrying times lie ahead.

Megan

Don't be such an idiot. No one including Marsh and Dodd want EFC to lose. Your comments do u no credit

unless you have had a sherry too much tonite???

Yesterday was the worst I've felt since 01 when McAllister scored for the shite

BUT NEVER comment that Blues WANT use to lose.

It's pathetic.

Moyes gets criticised after a few games into the season for not showing enough emotion, now he gets criticised for showing too much emotion! It sounds like whatever Moyes does, some fans will criticise him anyway.

I’d rather have a manager who shows he cares about the game, his team and his club than one who sits on the bench quietly.

Who liked Eriksson managing England without showing any enthusiasm? If you had a son playing football for his school team, would you want him charging around and being commited or strolling around not caring?

People like to see passion, commitment and enthusiasm. It shows Moyes cares.

Home record is crap, that's why he gets booed.

Not fucking rocket science is it!!

£35 quid to watch Leon Osman! Fucking disgrace.

Hmm. Tough one this. Find myself torn between John?s original post (and supporting posts) and the converse of people like Jay Harris.

I think on balance I prefer to see Moyes emotional than sanguine or downright miserable. I want him to care and I think what happened showed that he really does.

I still have issues about this season, how it has mainly come about and who should shoulder much of the blame. I regard Moyes as the architect of this season?s lost opportunity. Truth is, with everyone onside & a well executed pre-season we had the ability to be challenging for top 3, no doubt.

I guess the next few weeks & games will reveal what the Villa game stood for. Did it, as we all hope, reflect a changed mood in the camp, renewed confidence, desire and style that will move us on from the drudgery that we have endured thus far. Or will it simply herald an uncharacteristic stab at these virtues, only for us to return from whence we came (playing horrible and sneaking late winners).

It was bloody hard to take though. Undoubtedly our best show of the season and we hit the notes in almost every way. Our usual luck with the referee It was a DEFINITE penalty on Victor. Since when has it been legal to kick your opponents leg into the ball? As opposed to actually kicking the ball (which Larsen most certainly did not).

Jagielka?s mistake was a one-off in a great season. The guy has saved us so many times it?s ridiculous. The Street End?s response was fabulous and totally deserved. Well done fans and well done Jags. If Lescott?s 2nd goal had been scored by Ronaldo or Robinho then it would have travelled 6 times round the world by now. Absolutely out of this world.

Arteta, whilst far more in the groove than for most of the season is losing possession when he shouldn?t and it?s costing us. That?s hard to take. As for taking Vic off and bringing Bainesy on, well I?d rather LB was there from the off as he?s an excellent left-sided player who can defend and attack with aplomb. But Jutkiewicz should have been given the nod, or why have him on the fucking bench as the only attacker when you bring an attacker off. Moyes?s admission of fault doesn't hide the fact that he sometimes makes quite bizarre tactical decisions.

Back to Lescott for a moment. My overall assessment of Jolean, based on skill, strength, positioning, scoring potential, comfort on the ball etc, is that we have found possibly our best left-sided midfielder. If he can?t play in the centre then give him even more attacking licence and he could wreak havoc. It would mean that any lapses (and he has them) would be in areas that are less dangerous.

Whether Moyes sees that is a different matter of course. Going back to John?s post, I think I?m with Moyes on the emotion thing (as Jay suggests). More of it please. Add in some improved tactical acumen and courage and this could still be a season of promise.

It was hard to take reading some of the papers this morning. Having previously read about the "worst", "most turgid" EPL games ever played (after our games against Bolton & Wigan), it was weird reading about "possibly the best game of the season" (The Times) and knowing how we should have at least drawn, but really probably won. I pray it?s onwards & upwards.

This Moyes malarky... he?s shit... he?s not etc etc. Both opinions have weight to them. As would the same opinions about the vast majority of managers because very few of them have won anything or had consistent success.

My own view about his reaction is this: What does he expect! He?s made such awful substitution decisions in the past that most of us haven?t a clue what goes on in his head. Basically, he?s lost the fans' trust and until he starts to consistently make correct substitutions he?s always going to take flak.

I think the Ginger Whinger knows this is the 2nd if not the 3rd season he?s blown a chance to move the team/club up into top four territory and if he?s honest with himself he knows it isn?t just lack of money that's held us back... For me, he?s lucky to still be our manager, the lack of decent managers out there is the only reason he hasn?t been sacked.

This in my opinion is his last season if he doesn?t qualify for europe. No great loss as he?s had his chances.

Is it mandatory now to talk about the "£65k a week" every time Moyes name is mentioned ?

Prior to him signing his contract people were having a go at him for not signing. Now he?s signed, he gets stick for the amount of money he?s earning.

Seems to me that he just can?t win.

Why do people even bother posting articles like this?! Absolute twaddle! Yesterday we were incredibly unlucky, great support and a great game! We?ve played far worse this season and won, Fulham and West Ham spring to mind!

We need to be less divisive around Moyes and just give the players our support every time they take to the pitch

If we play like that for the rest of the season we?ll be fine! Get behind the team (and the manager)!!!

Who the fuck does Moyes think he is?

Baines on for Anichebe was a terrible substitution. What the fuck must young Jutkiewicz have to do for a chance??? If I was him, I'd be looking for a new club.

To Christopher Dean, has it slipped your mind what happens to us lately after we suffer a cruel result like this? The heads drop for the next game, a la Fiorentina, Villarreal etc etc.

But won at WBA after Blackburn’s late winner and won the next match after conceding a late penalty at Old Trafford last season. We were hardly knocked out of a Cup competition at the weekend.

Disappointing yes, but we’ll get over it. I felt more pessimistic after the Wigan game.

To quote a few select phrases from the original poster - I may or may not have misinterpreted, Now... I may be wrong, I hope my interpretation was wrong, but if my interpretation was correct..............

I have a question for the original poster - what if you are wrong as you so frequently suggest? Or have you already made up your mind that you are right and have just thrown those phrases in to try and justify your opinion?

Is it six years now, this is Moyes's team, he bought them, they play to his system, his style of football... OK, we won't go down, well not yet, he's on £3mill a year and yet can't coach any player to play one defence-splitting pass to a forward. Come on, we all hate the shite but compare Arteta to Gerrard, not on the same planet. I'm Everton mad ? always have been 50 years I just wanna go home and say, hey did you see that move by Everton, no I can't remember either.

So the only ’decent’ perormances this season have been against Man U and Villa, from which we’ve gained a total of 1 point. We’ve won 1 home game, we’ve conceded 3 at home on 3 occasions. We equalise in the dying seconds against Villa, our manager turns towards his most faithful supporters and gestures for them to fuck off, then Villa score a winner. You’re right Doddy, we should all be very proud!

Villa was lucky. Damnit. I hate Villa.

Young Jutkiewicz clearly isn't good enough. Do you really think Moyes would refuse to play him if he was? But yes, seeing as we got the game back to 2-2 then I guess you're right indeed. Another terrible decision by our manager.

Terry Hayes cant remember an Everton move? Try Osman?s goal against Larrisa last year. And am I right in thinking you?ve just compared Steven Gerrard to Mikel Arteta? Of course Gerrard is a superior player, he?s one of if not the best in the world. Should Arteta be lambasted for that not being as good?

Coaching a defence-splitting pass. That one really made me laff out loud. Just how the hell is Moyes supposed to do that? The player either has the quality to do so or he doesn't.

Daniel, if Jutkiewicz is clearly not good enough, then why didn?t Moyes let him go or loan him out this season? I mean, what?s the point of having a player at the club if you?re never going to play him?

Mike, mate, how was it not a good sub? We scored!?

John

If you?re so moved by what you saw the manager doing on the touchline that you?ve posted your concerns can I suggest you do the following. Ring Alan Jackson tonight on 709 9333 or contact him via radio.merseyside.sport@bbc.co.uk

Let them know you?d like whichever of their reporters attends his Friday press conference to raise the issue with the manager. David may not be everyone?s cup of tea but I think even his fiercest critics would have to agree he always gives an honest answer.

It may work or it may not. But what?s the worst that could happen ? you discover you were right to be offended or that you?ve made a fuss about nothing?

I loved Moyes celebration. It told me he is up for the fight.
COYB

James Marshall, your a fine one to talk about dishing ’stick’ out ...

Maybe you should get a grip before your knee jerk reactions about our players abilities during games again.

John Gorman - why are you getting bothered by something that may or may not have happened?

I didn?t think he gestured towards the Street end. I thought it was more towards the Villa supporters (like Lescott did), but I may be wrong.

To be honest, I?m still happy that the man managing the clubs shows a bit of passion.

"Our Manager Is Human" Shocker.

If I was getting shit for subbing an injured striker, I would give it the large when we equalised.

Can anyone tell me if this is the longest we've gone without a Saturday 3 o'clock kick-off at Goodison? End of August Pompey ? half-way through january: Hull. Driving me mad... Sundays and Mondays shite... work next day ? and so are the early Saturdays... I'm pissed by 8 o'clock!

I think everyone knows that people were not happy with the substitution because we had a young striker sat there on the bench. IF he's not good enough then he shouldn't be sat on the bench PERIOD.

The original poster was always going to come in for stick because he stated the blindigly obvious, that Moyes is a shite manager. You cant say anything about Moyes on here because all you will get is "we finished fourth, name someone to replace him, we got to the semi" etc etc etc. For a lot of fans that is quite acceptable for them and they think it does actually warrant a huge bumper contract.

As for slating the fans who turn up in their droves week-in, week-out, home AND away, even though they witness utter shite dross football, I think he needs to come back down to earth and realise that the majority couldn't give a fuck if he left tonight. I spoke to quite a few at half-time on Sunday who said that this year may be their last as they are sick of the crap that is churned out... and let's face it, it's not cheap but Moyes has the audacity to grumble at people whilst taking home his huge weekly earnings for dishing out the same every week!

His selection is predictable and so are his tactics ? or lack of them for that matter. As for those who will give me stick for this, well bollocks to you if you're happy with the current shite.

Alan, do you really really believe that he is a shite manager? Surely a shite manager would have had his team relegated by now?