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The extra minute
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If there is one thing that is getting on my fucking tits, concerning Saturday's game, is people crying about the extra minute the ref added on. Now lads, the 4th official indicates there will be a minimum of 3 mins, thats it, a MINIMUM of 3 mins, not 3 mins, and 3 mins only. The ref will have in his own mind how much extra he will be playing, but it won't be less than 3 mins. Maybe you lads moaning had a stop watch timing the 2nd half? Thought not.
Brian Waring, Posted 08/12/2008 at 17:36:38
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Ashley Young scored with about 10 seconds left. That means that when we kick off, there are still 10 seconds left - how long their celebrations last doesn’t matter.
He did add on time for their celebrations - if he didn’t, he would have blown for full time DURING the celebration (when time expired), which clearly he didn’t.
I was watching that Football Matters on Setanta last night and Graham Poll basically said refs just decide on injury time at their own discretion and not how many times he stops his watch. This coming from the same ref who blew for full time when Hutch?s backside effort against the red shite was about to cross the line!
Was in Paris with the ex, got into shit for watching the game (she didn’t believe "I didn’t know it was on"), but those Derby moments of bias are what keep us going!
But I agree at your point about the referee is entitled to go over the announced amount of time.
On another note people are moaning about anything and everything because that what this site is mostly about, people moaning about the team and people moaning about people moaning about the team.
We feel hard done by and therefore, like most people, look to blame someone or something.
Lets face it. Good teams play to the final whistle. We switched off in the first 60 seconds of the match and the last 60 seconds. How many times are we going to realize that the match lasts 90 minutes plus stoppage time?
Steven, I never meant it to come over aggressively, but it wasn?t the refs fault we lost the game, it was down to schoolboy errors. It?s ridiculous how some of you lads blame everyone else when we get beat, but not the main culprits, Moyes and the team.
Ajay, spot on mate, good teams play till the final whistle.
While I think the standard of refereeing is often poor and that of his so-called assistants often beyond contempt, the present situation is ludicrous. Millions upon millions of pounds of vested interests at stake; cameras at every angle to scrutinise every detail of the game; 22 players trying to cheat and con the ref at every opportunity; Managers - including so called "knights of the realm" unwilling to instill discipline into their players etc and we expect one man (in theory 3) to control all this and ensure that the rules are abided by. It is ludicrous.
Just look at one example, the "anarchy" that often now prevailes and is illustrated in the farce at corners and free kicks involving pulling, wrestling etc to which referees are now forced by the "vested interests" to turn a blind eye. Then we expect referees in all this cauldron of intense competition to be aware of every time-wasting deceit; to be accurately adding on every legitimate claim for additional time to be played.... as if!!
It is ludicrous and Jay Harris is right to point out the blindingly obvious..... namely, that in this one specific instance time keeping should go to a time-keeper per se. I believe they do this in another popular ball game? As for the other issues, I think we can wait until Hell freezes over such is the pathetic state of authority at every level of the game.
A final point also about this issue and its relationship to the Villa game. Of course every Evertonian was gutted by the reverse, but in spite of the human errors etc can we not all look back at what was a terrific match and for this to involve Everton on national television was nothing short of a longed-for miracle!
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