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'Night Out In A Brewery'

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We have all been there, by this I mean exasperation at our beloved club. If it's not crass defending, it's poor midfield play or ?how did he miss that??. For me, this exasperation invariably means the inherent bad management that runs through like a seam.

My first match was in August 1963 and the gate man couldn?t change a pound note! We had to go to a shop to buy some sweets and get some coins. This was the current League Champions and seemingly one of the most progressive teams in England. We all remember too the Uefa Cup ticketing fiascos of the last few years. The chip fryer fires that delay kick offs. The shoddy merchandise that featured on BBC consumer programmes in the 90s... We have all had experience of it.

How about player transfers? Alan Ball being off loaded to Arsenal. Colin Harvey shunted away to the old Second Division. Howard Kendall as a transfer make-weight, later as a manager being allowed to emigrate to Spain... Letting the 'old Lady' of Goodison get to such a state that we will have to leave.

The latest being letting Lee Carsley leave. Not so much not keeping him but not replacing him. It's not that they didn?t have enough notice. He is 34 and wanted to be nearer his handicapped daughter in Birmingham. Chelsea quite happily shipped Makele off, because they knew that Mickel had been groomed to take his place. So now we have the ludicrous sight of Mikel Artel passing as a holding midfielder. The correct analogy is buying a Rolls Royce and using it on a Car Rally.

Even during the Summer, the CEO walks and Moyes dithers over signing a new contract. The result: drift in the transfer market and a disjointed pre-season. This resulted in a bad start to the season, with currently one win at home by December, and a failure at the first hurdle in the Uefa Cup.

If anyone, in the current climate, is mad or rich enough to take this club on, they need to do a root and branch erasure of the culture within the club. Not so much to turn it into a candidate for ?Thatcher?s Business of The Year?, but something that is fit for purpose ? fill it with management, either financial or football that are PRO ACTIVE.

A question for Everton management. Re arrange this into a well known phrase or saying: 'Arrange can you night out a in a brewery?'
Mike Brerry, Otley, West Yorkshire     Posted 20/12/2008 at 08:21:49

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Michael Kenrick
Interesting that you have conflated disparate instances of exasperation spanning 45 years which, you say, show the "need to do a root and branch erasure of the culture within the club". So the variety of individuals making those exasperating decisions, and the specific circumstances surrounding them, is not so much the problem as the "culture of the club"?

I just can't help feeling that such wholesale condemnation is misplaced. People make decisions on consideration of the facts and information they have to hand. Be it the sale of Alan Ball, which made good business sense to them at the time, to the arguably sensible decision to let Carsley move on.

Whatever happens, and whoever we get in to run the show, you can be sure of one thing: they will make what are mistakes in your view, and they will continue to exasperate you because you will disagree with the decisions they make ? no matter how PRO ACTIVE they may be.

ps: Who'd want to spend a night out in a brewery anyway... unless there was actually a piss-up going down?

Mike McLean
1   Posted 20/12/2008 at 17:52:42

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The culture of the club has been one of crass amateurism, leading to one snatched defeat from the jaws of victory to another. I cannot remember an opportunity which hasn?t gone begging or a favourable scenario which hasn?t been ignored.

As for the sale of Alan Ball, as far as I?m concerned it was the blackest day in the club?s history and the only conceivable excuse for Catterick?s behaviour is that he was unwell.

Anthony Dyer
2   Posted 20/12/2008 at 17:50:35

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You?re not a Christmas Berry are you Mike? Come on mate, you?re making me seem carefree and optimistic and that takes some doing. Maybe the results of Hull and Pompey will cheer you up or maybe you?ll be more alarmed that Blackburn and Sunderland won.

The club has made huge cock-ups in its time but it has also pulled off some masterstrokes usually when least expected. That is what Everton is and what it always has been ? a bit like life ? a rollercoaster ride. Enjoy the up parts and don?t wallow in the lows. Merry Christmas!

Andy Fredson
3   Posted 20/12/2008 at 20:16:48

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Arteta has been quality in the centre!
Ray Robinson
4   Posted 20/12/2008 at 20:51:09

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In what way was the club responsible for the chip fryer fire in Goodison Road that delayed a kick off?!!!

I’ll bet you’d like to blame the current global economic downturn on the club’s mismanagement? A half decent point made with some ludicrous examples.

Merry Christmas by the way!
Dave Wilson
5   Posted 20/12/2008 at 20:16:28

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Mike Berry

I like a good moan myself, but this is world class moaning.

I fell about laughing when I read the bit where you complained the fella on the Turnstyle didn't have change for a pound in NINETEEN SIXTY THREE!?!
Dick Fearon
6   Posted 20/12/2008 at 21:16:38

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@ Mike Berry, what a wonderful fortunate life you have led if that is all you have to moan about.
David Moore
7   Posted 20/12/2008 at 22:00:20

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Let?s stop moaning. How good would it be to see the blues following the Gunners footsteps with their cancer donation thing. The add looks pretty funny and it is for a good cause. Gives you a bit of a giggle.
Nick Entwistle
8   Posted 20/12/2008 at 22:01:43

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The club could have earned some money this Christmas from myself purchasing some baby grows for me new neice. But they’re 100% polyester. Might be good enough for the first team to wear that, but not my neice. Sack the board!!!
Steve Pendleton
9   Posted 20/12/2008 at 22:22:52

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Glass half empty Mike?
Jon Cox
10   Posted 20/12/2008 at 21:49:04

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Mike,
have you ever seen Hitchiker's Guide to the Galaxy? You are defo Marvin the paranoid android. The players you cite were all getting on in years so my club did what they saw as the biz (financial).
Brendan McLaughlin
11   Posted 20/12/2008 at 22:30:55

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Maybe I?m doing something wrong but it's been an absolute honour following this team for most of my life. And then, of course, we have the best fan site. CARLSBERG DON'T DO FANSITES BUT IF THEY DID...........????
Derek Thomas
12   Posted 21/12/2008 at 04:53:36

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Jon Cox... "The players you cite were geting on in years"?? Ball was only 26, hardly a geriatric, yes The Catt may have well been not firing on all cylinders, he was thus right and at the same time wrong ( not withstanding the fact that he may have been ?encouraged? to sell).

Right, coz at 26, Ball would never be the 20-goal-a-season dynamo he used to be, his goal total while impressive was on a downward trend, as all these goalscoring non-out-and-out strikers do (Robson, Platt, Keane (r), Speed, Rooney, Ronaldo even Gerrard and Cahill). In most cases they still have the nouse but lack the vital extra bit of pace that they had in their early 20?s.

Yes they will still score if the defence underestimates or ?forgets? aka writes them off, but not at the rate at 29 they did at 22. This is one of the main reasons Best packed in ? well decided what with all the media shite, he knew that he was never going to be as good as he was, this comes gradually to most players and they compensate, using the head to save their legs.

And Wrong for nor seeing the changes that were ongoing in both football and players, especially the ability to play on in a meaninful way well past their benchmark 30th birthday.

Martin Berry
13   Posted 21/12/2008 at 09:39:28

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Things are being put right. We are in the top half, not the bottom half of the table anymore, take away the "top 4" and we are still probably 5 or 6. We have just shown an operating profit with frugal management.

If you read Robert Elstone's article in the Daily Post, he expects a new Everton investor within 3 months of Kirkby being approved (which it no doubt will). Personally I believe him, why should I be a cynic? I like to think they have the best interests of the club at heart. Everton know there are investors waiting in the wings for this outcome before making their move.

I believe that 2009 is likely to be the most important year in Everton's history, and I am excited about, if just for the fact it could be good news for a change

Brian Waring
14   Posted 21/12/2008 at 11:47:54

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Yeah, Martin, just like we were told we all should believe a certain Mr Wyness.
Phil Bellis
15   Posted 21/12/2008 at 12:07:13

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I presume Martin that you also believe in ring-fenced money?

Don?t forget... be in bed early on Wednesday ? the sooner you?re asleep, the sooner he gets here.

Jim Reardon
16   Posted 21/12/2008 at 12:54:31

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Ho Ho Ho Martin.
Stanley Ashbourne
17   Posted 21/12/2008 at 12:58:09

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What a miserable old git you are, Mike. My first game was in 1963 also. I prefer to remember the skills of the Golden Vision, Roy Vernon, and the rest of the side. We can all moan about things but you take it to another level. What a ridiculous post.
Connor Rohrer
18   Posted 21/12/2008 at 19:39:52

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Neville’s starting in midfield tommorow.
Duncan Lennard
19   Posted 21/12/2008 at 20:43:21

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Hibbert up front.
Jason Lam
20   Posted 22/12/2008 at 02:18:27

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I thought I had problems
Kevin Bennett
21   Posted 22/12/2008 at 08:42:48

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You say that the mis-management is across all those years ? get a grip. In all those years, we have NEVER been out of the top flight ? only 2 clubs can say that. I am 47 and in my lifetime only a handful of clubs have won the BIG league, I am grateful that MY club has won it 3 times. Add to that FA cups, Cup winners cups and all those fantastic mid-eighties memories!! Not many fans nationwide can say that, including Tottenham, Newcastle, Man City, only recently Chelsea - all arguably bigger clubs.

I know times are lean boys but we are an established Top Six type club in a very money orientated enviroment. I think we are very fortunate to call ourselves blues. We have had some fun along the way... it's not all bad is it?
John M Hughes
22   Posted 22/12/2008 at 10:50:20

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And what about those sausage rolls back in the early seventies? Absolute shite!
Tony Waverleas
23   Posted 22/12/2008 at 11:53:02

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Right on, Mike.

A cushion nearly landed on my head in the 70s. Well, I say "nearly" ? it actually landed on the pitch a good distance from my speck in the Street End but, you know, fair?s fair, Health & Safety and all that.

Good God above.
Peter Howard
24   Posted 22/12/2008 at 12:56:09

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Why are you so downbeat. I envy you having a pound in 1963.
John Martin
25   Posted 22/12/2008 at 18:36:13

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Bah Humbug

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