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Mikel Arteta? Piss Off!
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The month of madness lifts its ugly head again. That time of year when the ?ifs,? ?buts,? and ?maybes? dominate an ever vigilant press. However, one story is gathering both pace and interest: ?Arsenal in for Mikel Arteta.? I know this thread stands as a hypothetical issue, but I just couldn?t help myself.
Buying and selling is an art and as we know both Wenger and Moyes have the more quintessential intellect amongst their peers. However, this time the Frenchman?s surrounded, ?the voyeur?s under attack.? Arsenal are wounded and they need our help to get them into a Champions League position. Cue the Spaniard!
Would Ferguson sell his best to Wenger? Er?Nope! So why should we? Whether there exists? any truth to the stories, one thing we know is certain, Arsene is no fool and at £12 million he?s aiming for the knees! But I say let the bastard sweat in his red and whites. We have ambition and if Moyes is ever going to reach the summit of his, he would need to measure his response coldly? ?Piss Off!?
Before some of you question the man, the Moyes, the Messiah, think about what you are selling. A foreign player, who is settled, has a healthy love and respect of the club, the fans, the players, and an ability to change a game with a single pass, shot or moment of pure genius. Yes, I know at times he can be as frustrating as a torn condom, but in his current position at 28 (barring serious injury), he has at least 6 years at the top. Finding someone with like-for-like ability will cost more than the £12 Million being touted. Finding someone with like-for-like temperament is priceless. Why sell?
Many have arrived and few have gone, but Mikel remains the lynchpin to our success. I for one would stand amidst a crowd of gay-bashing skinheads and declare "I love the little bastard, We don?t need to sell anyone.? Man, this must be a Christmas joke. Blue Bill has an opportunity to win back some integrity (and fans) by actually becoming a man of his word!
Go shopping wherever you want, Arsene, Harrods is closed! And anyway we like Manchester United more? they give us things (wink).
Jason Broome, Posted 31/12/2008 at 00:22:03
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The fact these guys have priced him at £12 mill shows this story is completely made up.
Hopefully, Mikel ? and NOT the club ? will re-assure us that he remains happy being a blue. If it comes from Mikel himself, as it did last time, then hopefully it will shut the meejah up once and for all ? or at least stop the constant shyte we have to put up with concerning their so-called rumours.
Mikel, you're with a TEAM that has been patiently built brick by brick and will be heading for the glory days again. Come on Mikel ? let's hear from yer,
An interesting question: how much would you accept to sell Arteta? £12million is way too low a bid, but for say £30 million I guess I would accept it. Not that Arsenal ever pay that much money for a player.
Ok there may not be any truth in this story, but there doesn't have to be. If Arteta was distracted by "talk" of attention from a Sky 4 club, he wouldn't be the first player. Gareth Barry wasnt allowed to go even when a bid of £15 million was tabled, where does that put Arteta?s value ?
Time for BK to make a very clear statement to the rest of the Prem...
How does "Fuck off" sound?
I dont think we’ve had a diehard blue playing for the shirt since Mick Lyons to be honest. Rooney made me realise that its all about the dosh and the medals now!
"I absolutely love Tim Cahill"....
So since Tim is 200% Evertonian, I am sure Arteta will stick by Cahill.
Anyway, Everton are a better side than Arsenal this season. We are just 3 points off them. We have a better team chemistry and spirit than Arsenal. And why join Arsenal to "fill in" for the idiot Faberglass?
Arteta can be his own man in Everton!
We don’t have the finances to build a team overnight like the top 4 or even Villa, so this team has been built steadily which creates team spirit. Let’s tell Arsene or anyone else this January where to go as we have an outside chance of doing something this season, so why sell our best player who is coming into form after we have stood by him for the last 18 months?
- The Everton management completely let the established players down badly in the summer. There we were ready to exploit our last season?s 5th place with quality additions ? did it happen? Remember the first 4 weeks, Rodwell, Baxter etc... P7, W2 and out of Europe.
He will get Spanish recognition at Arsenal through CL and as Cesc?s mate. He will be playing in front of 60,000 people, with no doubt a good increase in salary. His girlfriend will want to live in London vs Liverpool.... Shall I go on ?
And on the bright side, what a testimonial this is for the progress we have made ?the rich and famous want what we?ve got, and there?s no need to sell.
I remember saying to my son only last month that I wouldn?t mind cashing in on him now while he?s still worth something, he was that bad... and suddenly after a few games, no I wouldn?t sell him for £12M either! Sometimes I think football supporters are completely mad.
Arteta is ambitious, wouldn?t you be in n his shoes? He can get more money, live in a great ciry, play in the Champions League (probably)...
I?m sure he loves Everton, and our fans, but he?s not here forever and he knows this... the only thinking he has to do is whether or not he can make it on the team sheet of a fully fit Arsenal squad, and if sitting on the bench for half a season would suit him!
I don?t actually want to see either go but if we can sell someone for a big profit and use the proceeds to buy a better player then it makes commercial and football sense to do so. We wouldn?t be able to replace Arteta for £12million but probably could with Pienaar ? not sure Wenger would want to help us strengthen our team by paying that sort of fee though.......
I work with an Arsenal season ticket holder and he?s been talking about Arteta to Arsenal for over a year. With that in mind, it's not beyond the realms of possibility. Factor in a £12m fee going to a club without a pot to piss in (that's us, by the way) and you have to take it as a serious issue. It's in every paper too, not just the rags.
Don?t believe the hype.
What price that they are also linked to Barry and Young next month?
He has been here a few years and he has made a big contribution to our transformation from a team of ancient non-achievers to successful young turks. If he stays then he deserves a major pat on the back from club & fans alike. He has personal ambitions and it it preposterous to think that our feelings come before them.
I think that our financial situation convinces some clubs (Arsenal, Man City, Spurs) that we will be willing sellers. I trust that even the Kenwright bashers who think he?s in this for himself will acknowledge that we will not willingly let anyone go.
I?m not looking forward to this January because I can see a number of our players who may have their heads turned by the money & desperation of the above 3 clubs. Messrs Arteta, Lescott, Jagielka, Pienaar, Howard & even Pip have all been rumoured to be on wish-lists elsewhere. It might get ugly.
On a positive note, The Times has been particularly positive towards us of late, or perhaps just fair, unlike Match of the [Spurs/Man City/West Ham] Day. So on the subject of the best little Spaniard we know, I offer this direct quote from The Times report of our comprehensive swatting of Sunderland...
"...Mikel Arteta, a source of such invention that some of his passes should be registered at the Patent Office, was the match-winner..."
So there you have it. Mikel Arteta, patent pending :-)
Great 2009 to EFC and all of us.
We were looking to buy Moutinho in the summer with values of £18 million being quoted, I would guess he would be the benchmark for a player similar to Arteta. Also, weren?t Arsenal interested in Moutinho too? And M?bia? I sometimes wonder whether Wenger just shows an interest to turn a player?s head, almost to stop him moving anywhere else in the promise Arsenal will come calling.
Also, has anyone else noticed this seems to be a tactic of the SKY 4? January comes, the forth placed team is getting nervous... so they do their sums; realise the cash they will lose out on and decide it?s better to buy the form players from the teams in hot pursuit. I hope we keep Arteta and the club finds some money from somewhere to buy a quality player, even if it is on loan till the end of the season. COYB
Scumbag Tabloid Editor: We’re on deadline!!!! I need a story about Arsenal to fill in our super soaraway Sky4 transfer speculation section....
Dimwitted Drunken Douchetard Tabloid Journo: Ummmm....the Arse....need a midfielder right????
Scumbag Tab. Editor: Yes, yes just write.....
Douchetard Journo: I’m writing....let’s see...midfielder....who played well at the weekend...I know that Spanish fella up at Everton.......Arteta....that’s the ticket....***picks random number out of head****......$12 million..........here we go boss.......
Scumbag Editor: Good that’s that finished...now we can go the pub.....
Douchetard Journo: Ummmm, boss?? We’re in the pub.......
I?d tell them to fuck off, since you?re asking!
It looks like the reporters who write for these newspapers don?t realize that their world is slowly but surely turning around from a ?big 4?, to a ?big 4 plus 2? ? the ?plus 2? being Everton and Aston Villa. Both these clubs are well managed, have a large core of loyal support, and are financially viable. In all likelihood, Everton and Aston Villa will be able to attain a top 4 position on a regular basis over the coming few years.
I therefore don?t see why Everton, who are only one place below Arsenal, who are within our gun-sights for 4th place, should sell one of our best players to our obvious immediate competitor. Doing so would be crazy, as it would ensure that Arsenal maintains their position as one of the current ?big 4? and condemn us to a permanent ?also-run?.
Remember the way Martin O?Neill dealt with Gareth Barry when Liverpool where ?cock-sure? of buying him. O?Neill said No, and set such a high price for Barry that Liverpool gave up the chase. O?Neill obviously did this because he knew that if he wanted to challenge the top 4, he needed to have his best players. And if he had to sell them, it would not be to one of the big 4 who are his competition.
So, whether we keep Arteta or not in January will say a lot about Everton?s aspirations to break into the top 4. If we do the unthinkable and let Arteta go to Arsenal, we will basically be giving up 4th place to them and Everton will never be able to break into this group.
January will therefore be a critical point of inflection for Everton. If we come out of January with all the current starting 11, plus a few additions, we will be making a clear statement of our intent to be a big club. But if we let players like Arteta go, then we?ll join the likes of Portsmouth, West Ham, Middlesboro and others who are only in the Premier League to make up the numbers.
So let?s wait and see.... By the way, a Happy New Year to all on this website!
??... and are financially viable.??
Oh really?!
They might not even need the players, and why would Arsenal need Mikel NEXT year? It would be paying £12-15M for five months worth of player. When their number 4 comes back, Arteta goes to the bench. They aren?t going to be using two creative midfielders. I hope it isn't true, but these things have a way of biting us. But, like it or not, it is smart business for the Arse. Make us worse, and they don?t have to worry about us in the table any longer.
We have a history of selling our top players and, unless we change this trend, we cannot expect to reach the vey top again. A good solid squad is as important as the first team to be successful so let's hope the club don?t let the likes of Arteta go, even if it means he is on the bench should his form plummet again...
Would Arteta want to be coached by Arsene Wenger? Of course, he?s one of the best in the world.
Recognition for the National team? Check.
There are many reasons for this to go ahead, and someone above mentioned ?the sheer audacity of it?. What are you on about mate? Audacity? Arsenal are a way bigger club than us, have everything that we don't, so have EVERY right to come out and say they want our players.
Everton are a medium-sized club punching above our weight and have been for years ? so many Evertonians have this view of us as being one of the top sides, which simply isn?t true anymore.
I would love us to be viewed (and actually be in reality) one of the biggest clubs around, but you ask fans of any other club and they?ll all say the same thing ? Everton? Used to be a big club, now they?re a biggish club who punch above their weight (as previously mentioned).
Any serious and big offers for any of our players, and you?d have to consider us selling purely on a financial basis ? we don't have any money, none at all, zip, nada, diddly... so if Man City come calling with £12m for Lescott or Arteta or whoever in fact, and at whatever price we slap on them, they could well end up leaving ? do not underestimate the power of cold hard cash.
You know what it's like when you buy a second-hand car, you turn up with cash under the asking price, wave it in front of the seller and bang, you?ve bought a Joleon Lescott for a couple of grand less than he?s worth.
You also have to look at the current state of the financial arena and think of the money-men surrounding Everton. We need money, all clubs do, just ask West Ham who have said publicly that they?ll listen to offers for ALL THEIR PLAYERS. Imagine being in that position? Well if we?re not careful we could end up there ? Kenwright is a shrewd bloke in many ways; OK he?s mortgaged us to the hilt and sold off our assets but ask yourself why? Because we had to or because he?s set to make a lot of money by doing it? I?ll lay money it's the former.
I hope we don?t sell anyone because we can?t afford to on a playing basis, but money really does talk and it could be way out of DM?s hands if there?s cash on the table.
In saying that, I would not be surprised if Abu Dabi City and others with money tried to get one or more of our best players (because we have some very good ones). It could be that someone makes a silly or good enough offer to tempt a sale, but with Arteta I believe that would have to be approaching £20m. I don?t think Kenwright plans to, wants to, or expects to sell anybody in January.
Moyes is doing a great job keeping us in the Prem with the playes he has had but, if we want to claw our way back into the big time, we need to stop selling important players and more importantly, selling them to the clubs we are trying to overtake.
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