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Here we are again in another quiet close season, and here we are again with all the paranoid scare mongers fretting because Moyes hasn't lashed out £30 million already (two weeks after the Euros...)
Has any one of you ? and you know who you are ? looked about at how much business has actually been done by any of our competitors? Have any of you read other official websites to see if their board and respective mangers have listed their top five transfer targets in public? Has anyone actually seen the Goodison Park profit and loss sheet?
I'll give you a clue.... No. None of you have. What short memories we all do have. We were virtually non-existent in the transfer marker last summer until a couple of weeks before the deadline when everyone nearly pissed themselves at the thought of signing Yakubu, Baines and Fernandes.
I love this site and read it every day but I'm getting increasingly tired with impatient fools who know nothing more than the rest of us but seem convinced that we are doomed to some sort of summer of failure. In Moyes "I" trust. COYB.
Peter Laverty, Posted 09/07/2008 at 17:57:58
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And in Moyes you should trust, Peter, because were it not for his jumping up and down last August, neither Yakubu nor Fernandes would have been an option. And it’s his refusal to sign a new contract until he has the guarantee of a decent transfer kitty that is keeping the pressure on the Board to find money from somewhere this time around.
He was not happy at having to buy players after the season had started last year and everyone knows he prefers to have players in well before pre-season training, so let’s not pretend that this lack of activity is normal. Like having to offload Andy Johnson in order to bring in money for incoming transfers, it is not Moyes’s modus operandi.
It’s not scaremongering when the club’s actions make our lack of funds self evident.
He was not happy at having to buy players after the season had started last year and everyone knows he prefers to have players in well before pre-season training, so let’s not pretend that this lack of activity is normal. Like having to offload Andy Johnson in order to bring in money for incoming transfers, it is not Moyes’s modus operandi.
It’s not scaremongering when the club’s actions make our lack of funds self evident.
We also know about Moyes?s refusal to pay over the odds for his targets, so who is to say he isnt trying and isn't being put off by inflated prices to ?rich? Premier League clubs? A story can be spun any which way and I personally think Moyes and his new Number 2 will have everything in hand! However, I do think he's playing it right with regards to his contract, best to keep Bill on his toes.
Checking the BBC site..... since June 2...
15 of the 20 teams in the Prem have signed at least one new player. Only EFC,
Stoke, Man U, Sunderland and Blackburn have yet to add to their squad.
While the quality of these players may be lacking in some cases.... at least these teams have done something that they feel will improve them. We haven?t been able to resign the manager yet !
While I consider myself a "glass half-full" supporter... anyone who is not concerned regarding the club (ground move , lack of transfer activity, buyout, Moyes not yet signed etc.) is both naive and foolish.
15 of the 20 teams in the Prem have signed at least one new player. Only EFC,
Stoke, Man U, Sunderland and Blackburn have yet to add to their squad.
While the quality of these players may be lacking in some cases.... at least these teams have done something that they feel will improve them. We haven?t been able to resign the manager yet !
While I consider myself a "glass half-full" supporter... anyone who is not concerned regarding the club (ground move , lack of transfer activity, buyout, Moyes not yet signed etc.) is both naive and foolish.
Despite the recent statement by Ian Ross that the club's transfer fund will not be affected by the pending decision on the ground, it is a racing certainty that we will not sign anyone until that decision is made. If you were the cynical type, you might think Ross was bullshitting ? surely not!!!
Maybe if we were never so late signing players (which seems so fine to you) we may have got a few people to invest in season tickets which by all accounts are down on last season judging how the OS is quiet on this issue, plus the fact players like the Yak take a while to bed in (Moyes words) and we cannot afford this if we want to catch the top teams.
Also what is our history on finding and sealing a deal? About 2-3 weeks and finally it seems that we are about to sell AJ so we have lost how many players? And we had to cancel a pre-season friendly at Bury because we have no players to field a team at two different locations, hardly a great way to prepare and I bet our manager is not too happy with what is going on.
There is a case for saying that last year’s squad, which gave us 5th, is more or less the same. We all know where we need more strength - and a bit more than that perhaps - but we also know that the club doesn’t have the tens, twenties and thirties of millions to buy a couple of players with the wages that they would demand.
In Moyes I trust - compare him to the bag of shite across the park who taps up players, tries to bargain their price down, and then says that their leading scorer cannot be bought. Fucking hypocrite. I’ll take my lad any time.
In Moyes I trust - compare him to the bag of shite across the park who taps up players, tries to bargain their price down, and then says that their leading scorer cannot be bought. Fucking hypocrite. I’ll take my lad any time.
Peter, When you submit an article, if your going to call people fools, have the good sense not to make a twat of yourself by getting your facts wrong
Manny?s "transfer" had the whole of football laughing at us and the Yak should have been bought weeks before he actually was. How much longer will DM have to paper over the cracks before people like you smell the coffee
We?re, on the bones of our arse, the coffers are empty, our wallet is flat, we?re pennyless, financially challenged, skint, brassic, poor, without capital, the cupboard is bare. We do not have a pot to piss in!
Trust in Moyes all you want, but unless somebody is giving away top class internationals, they?re not coming here. The time is rapidly approaching when he?ll have had a bellyfull of being outbid by tiny clubs and having to trawl the lower divisions for some "hidden gem".
Manny?s "transfer" had the whole of football laughing at us and the Yak should have been bought weeks before he actually was. How much longer will DM have to paper over the cracks before people like you smell the coffee
We?re, on the bones of our arse, the coffers are empty, our wallet is flat, we?re pennyless, financially challenged, skint, brassic, poor, without capital, the cupboard is bare. We do not have a pot to piss in!
Trust in Moyes all you want, but unless somebody is giving away top class internationals, they?re not coming here. The time is rapidly approaching when he?ll have had a bellyfull of being outbid by tiny clubs and having to trawl the lower divisions for some "hidden gem".
I think the fact we are having to cancel friendlies due to being unable to field 2 teams worrying!
Having only 1 first team midfielder currently over in switzerland and only 3 fit midfielders in the squad with the season approaching is even more reason to start worrying!
Having only 1 first team midfielder currently over in switzerland and only 3 fit midfielders in the squad with the season approaching is even more reason to start worrying!
I read this morning that only 13 cash deals have taken place so far since the transfer window opened with players coming to a Prem team. I?ll be panicking on 16th August if we are still bare but im excited about some of the local youngsters gettin a chance. Let's see pre-season and blood a couple I reckon. Half of them are near 20 now, which is about the right time.
Peter we are all trying to keep positive about things, but the fact of the matter is that every single bit of news we are hearing regarding our club has been negative!!!
Whether it be DK
Moyes contract stalling
Our piss poor marketing department
Lack of transfer funds
Kenwright admitting he hasn't got a clue how to make the club more attractive to a potential buyer
We've even fucked up the release of our new kit!!
So forgive us for being a tiny bit negative!!
Whether it be DK
Moyes contract stalling
Our piss poor marketing department
Lack of transfer funds
Kenwright admitting he hasn't got a clue how to make the club more attractive to a potential buyer
We've even fucked up the release of our new kit!!
So forgive us for being a tiny bit negative!!
Pointless post.
Look at the boards track record... is it any wonder why fans are up in arms??
Look at the boards track record... is it any wonder why fans are up in arms??
Just to add a bit of perspective and reality to the situation for those like Dave Wilson who say we?re penniless and the cupboard is bare. If we had no money, I doubt very much we would have tried to sign Ramsey for £5 million. If we had no money, I doubt we would be spending a week in Switzerland. What, did the people over there just pay for our team to fly over? Is our room and board being paid for by the Swiss? And then we have an American trip coming up. Is the USA paying for us to go out there? Just answer me where all this money is coming from to fly the team all over the damn world and stay in all those hotels and be able to feed the players if we are so damn poor. Give it a rest, take a holiday or something. We?re not the richest club in the world but we are certainly not as poor as some of you want to make out.
Lyndon,
I normally agree with your posts, but isn’t everything in your post just speculation?
I normally agree with your posts, but isn’t everything in your post just speculation?
David Barks, are you really that naive or just trying to lighten the gloom? I was slightly worried before our leader's performance at the last meeting... now I'm losing sleep. Still Bill admitting he's clueless is the first honest statement to come out of the club for quite a while. But Round has joined so everything is alright... funny that Dave can find time to sort out his second with Bill but can't find time to sign the contract. There is something brewing and I?m scared...
Roy,
I?m not being naive and I didn?t try to paint a rosy picture for everyone. Just answer me this, who?s paying for all these charter flights over to Switzerland and the US, all the hotel bills and food bills, signing a new assistant manager, etc. If we don?t have a penny to spend then surely we would have to cancel these trips to Switzerland and the US. Yes, there is a lot of uncertainty surrounding the club at the moment, but I just don?t think it is the doom and gloom that some make it out to be. The same thing is said each off season. Last year it was all about us not strengthening the squad enough and we would drop out of the Uefa Cup at the first hurdle and languish in the bottom half of the table. The year before that it was all about us not having a chance of qualifying for Europe. Now it?s the same thing, nothing different. People panic every single year.
I?m not being naive and I didn?t try to paint a rosy picture for everyone. Just answer me this, who?s paying for all these charter flights over to Switzerland and the US, all the hotel bills and food bills, signing a new assistant manager, etc. If we don?t have a penny to spend then surely we would have to cancel these trips to Switzerland and the US. Yes, there is a lot of uncertainty surrounding the club at the moment, but I just don?t think it is the doom and gloom that some make it out to be. The same thing is said each off season. Last year it was all about us not strengthening the squad enough and we would drop out of the Uefa Cup at the first hurdle and languish in the bottom half of the table. The year before that it was all about us not having a chance of qualifying for Europe. Now it?s the same thing, nothing different. People panic every single year.
David, On this particular occasion I believe that people may have due cause for panicking.
We have a Manager who has still not signed a contract.
We have a Chairman and CEO who seem desperate to move to Kirkby.
We have a Chairman who has, allegedly, admitted that he wants to sell the club.
We have a PR man who insists that Moyes transfer budget will not be affected by the move.
I too am concerned that Moyes may well call it a day and bugger off somewhere else. Who could really blame him ?
I believe he, Moyes, was quoted as saying that he did not know whether "He would be shopping at Harrods or shopping in the bargain basement".
If he is having to sell players to get any sort of funds to buy new ones then I think we may know the answer to that.
I would suggest that some folks are right to panic. A lot of people love Everton Football Club, myself included, and it just breaks your heart to see how it is being run at the moment.
We have a Manager who has still not signed a contract.
We have a Chairman and CEO who seem desperate to move to Kirkby.
We have a Chairman who has, allegedly, admitted that he wants to sell the club.
We have a PR man who insists that Moyes transfer budget will not be affected by the move.
I too am concerned that Moyes may well call it a day and bugger off somewhere else. Who could really blame him ?
I believe he, Moyes, was quoted as saying that he did not know whether "He would be shopping at Harrods or shopping in the bargain basement".
If he is having to sell players to get any sort of funds to buy new ones then I think we may know the answer to that.
I would suggest that some folks are right to panic. A lot of people love Everton Football Club, myself included, and it just breaks your heart to see how it is being run at the moment.
David Barks, I see neither a trip to Switzerland or America ? even if the whole team were to stay at the most outlandish hotels ? costing as much as a single decent midfielder would so your argument appears to be mute. It?s one thing saying thousands of pounds not available but when was the last time since David Weir that Everton got a player that actually played for the first team that cost just thousands rather than millions beyond the wages of loan signings?
For heaven?s sake even the minnows appear to have more money than Everton the club which has qualified for Europe more times than not in the last four seasons yet hasn?t a pot to piss in, the Chairman must surely take this responsibility despite his dreadful lack of knowledge of the day to day business, it?s not DM?s fault that?s for sure.
Gavin
That is the exact same thing that everyone was saying last summer. "Oh my God, Wigan can out bid us for Koumas, what a disgrace. Oh my God, Portsmouth have out bid us for Nugent, we?re doomed. We?re too poor to pay the price for Jagielka, what a joke we are." Well in the end we signed Jagielka for a hell of a price. We signed Baines but didn?t get to see much of him because of injuries. We signed Yakubu who broke the 20 goal barrier. The Fernandes thing sucked but you can?t put all the blame on Everton for that. We had a bid accepted, then the FA stepped in and delayed the paperwork, allowing Valencia to come in and sign him. My point is that all this was said last year as well.
That is the exact same thing that everyone was saying last summer. "Oh my God, Wigan can out bid us for Koumas, what a disgrace. Oh my God, Portsmouth have out bid us for Nugent, we?re doomed. We?re too poor to pay the price for Jagielka, what a joke we are." Well in the end we signed Jagielka for a hell of a price. We signed Baines but didn?t get to see much of him because of injuries. We signed Yakubu who broke the 20 goal barrier. The Fernandes thing sucked but you can?t put all the blame on Everton for that. We had a bid accepted, then the FA stepped in and delayed the paperwork, allowing Valencia to come in and sign him. My point is that all this was said last year as well.
And I didn?t say that the cost of our trips are equal to the amount of a quality midfielder. But if one just uses a bit of logic they would see that if the team was so hard pressed that they hardly had a penny to spend they would not be taking a week long trip to Switzerland and then a week long trip to the US. If we were truely that poor we wouldn?t be wasting money on these trips, no matter how expensive they are.
And by the way, charter flights for the team to and from Switzerland and to and from the US, and hotel stay for each and every player and coach and medical staff and any other workers that go along costs a hell of a lot more than a few thousand pounds. So the point is not mute... or should that be moot?
David thanks for the reply I’m on no sleep mode as I’m working on deploying guys to Afghanistan, the point more so this year than last is we barely have a squad having shipped out players, without substantial increases we have had to cancel a friendly as we can’t even make up two squads which is laughable but given the admittedly rumour of having to sell to strengthen what exactly does that give the squad? Disparity and change given there was a balance that achieved fifth at a limp due to no depth? Hope that losing another squad member could give us a few new members who will need to bed in and give current prices be bargain buckets who are just numbers rather than quality we need to push that little more to prise fourth and the holy grail of the CL gravy train? I’ll give you moot as semantics smart arse as I’m completing a 22 hour day.
If we had signed Manny last season for £12 million, would we have signed Yakubu? And if we would, where's the £12 million gone!
Gavin,
I was only joking with the "moot" thing mate, I meant no offense. Believe me, I hear what your saying about the squad size and I totally agree that we need to strengthen. But I think we both know that the squad will be added to. I don’t think that Mr. Round would have chose to sign with us if he wasn’t given assurances that the team will be strengthened. I also think that there would be a few players in our current team being vocal about wanting to move to a team with ambition if they didn’t know that our team will have some new faces coming in. I’m not happy about the way things are going, believe me, I really want to see some new faces here soon. Now go get some sleep, that’s too long of a work day, ouch. And I hope you’re not heading over to Afghanistan. Have you already been over there?
I was only joking with the "moot" thing mate, I meant no offense. Believe me, I hear what your saying about the squad size and I totally agree that we need to strengthen. But I think we both know that the squad will be added to. I don’t think that Mr. Round would have chose to sign with us if he wasn’t given assurances that the team will be strengthened. I also think that there would be a few players in our current team being vocal about wanting to move to a team with ambition if they didn’t know that our team will have some new faces coming in. I’m not happy about the way things are going, believe me, I really want to see some new faces here soon. Now go get some sleep, that’s too long of a work day, ouch. And I hope you’re not heading over to Afghanistan. Have you already been over there?
This may be a bit out there for some, but is it actually possible that Moyes is discussing his potential targets with his new No 2?
Rather than just going out and signing players straight away, he may want his No 2 to have some input, maybe even for his new No 2 to make some recommendations which Moyes will then evaluate. They may even be using this week in Switzerland to see which of the youngsters look capable of breaking into the first team this season before deciding how many positions they need to fill? They may even be taking this opportunity to allow Steve Round to evaluate the squad first hand before he makes recommendations on what is required.
Just a thought.
Rather than just going out and signing players straight away, he may want his No 2 to have some input, maybe even for his new No 2 to make some recommendations which Moyes will then evaluate. They may even be using this week in Switzerland to see which of the youngsters look capable of breaking into the first team this season before deciding how many positions they need to fill? They may even be taking this opportunity to allow Steve Round to evaluate the squad first hand before he makes recommendations on what is required.
Just a thought.
Everton have signed a player...
Or does everyone forget about Pienaar?
Or does everyone forget about Pienaar?
David,
Perhaps we’re waiting until after our trips to Switzerland and the USA to sign all the players we need so we don’t have to pay the "thousands" for their flights and accommodation?! We could buy Arshavins left index finger with all the money we’’ll save!
Sorry, just thought I’d make a smart arsed moot point before kind of agreeing with you. I am not worried just yet. I feel if Moyes can get around 10 million for Johnson and bring in someone like Milito on loan thus giving him the funds to go out and strengthen the midfield with some real quality, this has got to be a very shrewd bit of business.
It’s annoying that we haven’t a new signing to celebrate just yet, but history tells me that we don’t just go out and buy a shiny new squad in the first week of July. Moyes takes a more calculated approach than this.
I for one will only buy into all this doom-mongering if the transfer window slams shut and we don’t have a stronger squad than last season. I truely believe this will not be the case.
Perhaps we’re waiting until after our trips to Switzerland and the USA to sign all the players we need so we don’t have to pay the "thousands" for their flights and accommodation?! We could buy Arshavins left index finger with all the money we’’ll save!
Sorry, just thought I’d make a smart arsed moot point before kind of agreeing with you. I am not worried just yet. I feel if Moyes can get around 10 million for Johnson and bring in someone like Milito on loan thus giving him the funds to go out and strengthen the midfield with some real quality, this has got to be a very shrewd bit of business.
It’s annoying that we haven’t a new signing to celebrate just yet, but history tells me that we don’t just go out and buy a shiny new squad in the first week of July. Moyes takes a more calculated approach than this.
I for one will only buy into all this doom-mongering if the transfer window slams shut and we don’t have a stronger squad than last season. I truely believe this will not be the case.
"Phil McKracken": Lyndon, I normally agree with your posts, but isn?t everything in your post just speculation?
Those with sources close to the club will tell you that Moyes came close to resigning in August last year and that prompted the sudden appearance of £20m to fund the acquisition of Yakubu and Fernandes.
With no real money this time around, it stands to reason — and, again, sources confirm — that at the least the manager is looking for reassurances that his ambitions are going to be supported before he signs a new contract. At the most he’s pissed off that we have nowhere near the money required to bolster a squad that remains painfully short on numbers.
David Barks: If we had no money, I doubt very much we would have tried to sign Ramsey for £5 million
Apparently, Moyes felt that Ramsey is that good a prospect that he had no choice but to bid for him even if it affected the rest of his summer spending. Again, don’t shoot the messenger...
Those with sources close to the club will tell you that Moyes came close to resigning in August last year and that prompted the sudden appearance of £20m to fund the acquisition of Yakubu and Fernandes.
With no real money this time around, it stands to reason — and, again, sources confirm — that at the least the manager is looking for reassurances that his ambitions are going to be supported before he signs a new contract. At the most he’s pissed off that we have nowhere near the money required to bolster a squad that remains painfully short on numbers.
David Barks: If we had no money, I doubt very much we would have tried to sign Ramsey for £5 million
Apparently, Moyes felt that Ramsey is that good a prospect that he had no choice but to bid for him even if it affected the rest of his summer spending. Again, don’t shoot the messenger...
Lyndon:
"those with sources close to the club".?
FFS.. how many times?....
Same old same old...to just use some actual facts...Wigan did not outbid us for Koumas, Portsmouth did not outbid us for Nugent....we never bid for them..
The amount of doom mongers amazes me..if this was a true reflection of Evertonians, we would all sit in GP jwaving placards with "The end is Nigh on"..
Because Moyes aint rushed out and thrown cash away on overpriced journeymen or cash hungry mercenaries does not mean he has no targets in mind.
And GAVIN what the hell you are deploying and where to has to do with football or this site is only known to you..methinks you were a bit put out that some people dont think just because you say it its true...
"those with sources close to the club".?
FFS.. how many times?....
Same old same old...to just use some actual facts...Wigan did not outbid us for Koumas, Portsmouth did not outbid us for Nugent....we never bid for them..
The amount of doom mongers amazes me..if this was a true reflection of Evertonians, we would all sit in GP jwaving placards with "The end is Nigh on"..
Because Moyes aint rushed out and thrown cash away on overpriced journeymen or cash hungry mercenaries does not mean he has no targets in mind.
And GAVIN what the hell you are deploying and where to has to do with football or this site is only known to you..methinks you were a bit put out that some people dont think just because you say it its true...
Peter, you may be happy with our squad being 5 players down from the end of last season with pre-season training already under way but I?m not. Not only do each of these 5 players need replacing, but our squad needs ADDING to, as shown by our struggle in the final 3rd of last season.
And why do people keep holding up last summers transfer dealings as proof all is in hand this summer? Our manager had to threaten to leave to get decent funds AFTER the season had already started ffs! Is this how you want our business run every summer?
How many times has Moyes come out in the past saying he likes to get players in early to bed them down? Wyness even said in an interview on the OS in May that we?d be looking to get our targets in early this summer...doesn?t that suggest something is not quite right?
It took the Yak until around Oct/Nov last year before he finally started to produce. It?s simple, new players take time to settle, the earlier you bring them in the earlier you?ll reap the rewards.
John Gee...when was the Yak ever valued at £20m? To suggest that our late bid for him was part of some masterful technique in transfer negotiations is naive to say the least. It was left til late in the summer because we didn?t have the money til late in the summer!
And why do people keep holding up last summers transfer dealings as proof all is in hand this summer? Our manager had to threaten to leave to get decent funds AFTER the season had already started ffs! Is this how you want our business run every summer?
How many times has Moyes come out in the past saying he likes to get players in early to bed them down? Wyness even said in an interview on the OS in May that we?d be looking to get our targets in early this summer...doesn?t that suggest something is not quite right?
It took the Yak until around Oct/Nov last year before he finally started to produce. It?s simple, new players take time to settle, the earlier you bring them in the earlier you?ll reap the rewards.
John Gee...when was the Yak ever valued at £20m? To suggest that our late bid for him was part of some masterful technique in transfer negotiations is naive to say the least. It was left til late in the summer because we didn?t have the money til late in the summer!
Lyndon,
I see what your saying mate, but who are these sources close to the club? How can I know they are right or telling the truth, what you say seems to be a reasonable explanation, but as shown on previous recent posts there are different ways to put a spin on a story... posotive, negative, right, wrong ? how do you or I know?
I see what your saying mate, but who are these sources close to the club? How can I know they are right or telling the truth, what you say seems to be a reasonable explanation, but as shown on previous recent posts there are different ways to put a spin on a story... posotive, negative, right, wrong ? how do you or I know?
Oh FFS Phil McKracken just open your eyes & ears mate this is pretty common knowledge. If everything was ?hunky fucking dory? he?d have signed his bumber contract by now!
Just apply the ?Duck test? to things. Does it: waddle, quack & look like a duck - if so it's probably a Duck!!!
Questions:
Does everthing appear OK at Goodison Park?
Does Moyes appear content?
Have Bill?s Backers done a runner?
Do our finances look ok?
Does the squad look strong enough to compete?
Do Wyness, Ross & Bill look like a Shambolic mess?
Am I the ?Prince of Doomongers? (yes Peter we know who we are) ?
Apply the ?duck test? & work it out - QUACK
ps: check the posts, Mr Laverty ? I didn?t moan once last close season but ENOUGH IS ENOUGH!
Just apply the ?Duck test? to things. Does it: waddle, quack & look like a duck - if so it's probably a Duck!!!
Questions:
Does everthing appear OK at Goodison Park?
Does Moyes appear content?
Have Bill?s Backers done a runner?
Do our finances look ok?
Does the squad look strong enough to compete?
Do Wyness, Ross & Bill look like a Shambolic mess?
Am I the ?Prince of Doomongers? (yes Peter we know who we are) ?
Apply the ?duck test? & work it out - QUACK
ps: check the posts, Mr Laverty ? I didn?t moan once last close season but ENOUGH IS ENOUGH!
Do you know what word has been ruined by the world of football?
The word ?Source?
Everyone seems to have one these days.
Marc - Phil was questioning Lyndon's sources. WTF does that have to do with common knowledge.
Which brings me to my next question how is Everton's dealings common knowledge? With the exception of the DK info (which has come from the supporters of and KEIOC et al...) Everton don?t really tell us anything.
So really how is it common knowledge? I presume you read it on the World Wide Web or in a newspaper or you heard it from a source???
Until someone official tells us about all of these issues and problems, it's not common knowlege.
It's speculation if anything.
The word ?Source?
Everyone seems to have one these days.
Marc - Phil was questioning Lyndon's sources. WTF does that have to do with common knowledge.
Which brings me to my next question how is Everton's dealings common knowledge? With the exception of the DK info (which has come from the supporters of and KEIOC et al...) Everton don?t really tell us anything.
So really how is it common knowledge? I presume you read it on the World Wide Web or in a newspaper or you heard it from a source???
Until someone official tells us about all of these issues and problems, it's not common knowlege.
It's speculation if anything.
I've posted this before somewhere but i think it's relevant. With all the recent bad feeling between the club and some of the fanbase over the stadium, I see it as the club trying to gain maximum PRand use the Moyes deal as a sweetener should the stadium go through. If they announce the stadium the same time as Moyesie?s new contract then a lot of people will be shouted down with the argument that Moyes wants to stay at Goodison and a massive positive spin will be in full swing. If the stadium collapses, they?ll announce it next to our main signing of the summer.
Round wouldn't have been ?sold? a club by Moyes if he was leaving. Where would he go anyway? Fergie isn't retiring, Spurs have a new manager & Newcastle are reigning in all players wages in case of doing a Leeds. So I don't see any serious options for him to go unless a big Scottish job comes up but given that they both had a blinder last season (in Scottish footy terms) I'd say that our PR team is biding its time.
David Barks
What are you talking about?
Dont you think the complaints last year were justified?
If it wasnt for the Manny fiasco, we wouldn't have got the Yak!
You claim, "we all said that last season", and seem to think it turned out alright.
Guess what? it didn't! We blew a golden opportunity to clinch CL football because we literally ran out of players last season, we were reduced to playing SPL cast-offs.
What are you talking about?
Dont you think the complaints last year were justified?
If it wasnt for the Manny fiasco, we wouldn't have got the Yak!
You claim, "we all said that last season", and seem to think it turned out alright.
Guess what? it didn't! We blew a golden opportunity to clinch CL football because we literally ran out of players last season, we were reduced to playing SPL cast-offs.
This season represents possibly our last shot at CL, we have got to change a very good team into a very good squad. A megre three signings like last year won't do it. If you're happy to live forever with our existing "also ran" status, then your right, no need to panic!
You know full well the potential rewards for promoting ourselves stateside, please don't point to the tens of thousands spent on a trip there, because you also know that if an EPL team can't afford millions, they are indeed brassic.
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