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Why no Sidwell?
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It is so obvious that we need to replace Carsley, but who with?
Everyone has had their say and I know it's only Moyes that knows. And we will get the usual leave it to him "in Moyes we trust and all that nonsence!!"
But can anyone offer an argument as to why we are not in for Sidwell - He can pass, tackle and control the midfield he's the right age and I can just see him fitting in at Everton and getting his career back on track. I'm astounded that it looks like he's going to Villa for £5 million and we haven't had a look !!
It's so frustrating waiting for Everton's annual dalience in to the transfer market - makes you want to scream or throw your computer out of the window!! Think I will scream, its cheaper!!
Kevin Bennett, Posted 10/07/2008 at 15:48:45
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Michael Kenrick
This is an aspect of the Silly Season I can never, ever undertsand. Fans lining up players in their own mind, only to be hugely disappointed / puzzled / annoyed / struck dumb (I wish!) that said player was not even considered (apparently) by the Club. If he goes to Villa (or anywhere else), it's something I'm afraid you are going to have to come to terms with. Good luck!
Well I would have thought that Sidwell would have been a far more natural replacement for Carsley than Darren Fletcher. He seems like the combative energetic type of player we need in there to compliment the likes of Arteta and Pienaar. For me paying the extra million for Sidwell would have made far more sense than paying £4 million for Fletcher (if we do that is) who is no different a player to Osman.
I thought we were looking at a possible loan swoop for Sidwell in January with a view to a permanent? I remember it being quoted in the Echo at the time... Perhaps we have even less money now than we had in January and we never signed anyone back then for a fee..
It's ok us saying in Moyes we trust but the question I'm asking now is does Moyes trust in Kenwright and the Board??
We can no longer keep saying it's early days regarding signing players and I wouldn't have thought Moyes would want to leave it so late again like last year when we got relatively lucky that there were no real snags with the Yakubu transfer but I remember there was a few problems with medicals for Baines and the later you leave transfers the more you are taking risks I think; look at the Fernandes situation. As someone said we lost out on him at the last minute and had no time to look for a genuine replacement and ending up signing a crocked Gravesen in desperation..
As regards Sidwell the rumour is we couldnt match his wage demands.
Maybe Villa?s view is they?ve got an £8 million player for £5 million so they can afford more wages and they?ve got the sale of Barry to worry about.
We will be lucky to get Koumas the way we?re shaping.
Maybe Villa?s view is they?ve got an £8 million player for £5 million so they can afford more wages and they?ve got the sale of Barry to worry about.
We will be lucky to get Koumas the way we?re shaping.
Sidwell = proper scumbag, wouldn't fit in at Everton. Anyone who has his wedding vows tattooed across his entire back, has to be of questionable intellect!
My worry is that clubs like Villa, who are looking to overtake us next season, will start picking up all the decent affordable players like Sidwell.
While you might argue the toss about whether or not certain players are good for the club, the fact that they are all being snapped up while we still fart about doing nothing is unsettling. We could end up looking at rubbish players at knock down prices or very decent players at over inflated prices. For obvious reasons we cannot afford either type.
While you might argue the toss about whether or not certain players are good for the club, the fact that they are all being snapped up while we still fart about doing nothing is unsettling. We could end up looking at rubbish players at knock down prices or very decent players at over inflated prices. For obvious reasons we cannot afford either type.
Theres always more to it though - look at Sidwell, Wandsworth born, played for Arsenal, Reading, Chelsea and now Villa; clearly the guy didn't want to be too far from his London roots. Everton is pretty far north, and given the option, a lot of southern players would rather not be that far up the country. The human element is often forgotten by football fans; its a big upheaval if you have a family etc, that always gets overlooked.
Kevin, I?ve had it on very good authority that its all down to the colour of his hair. Moyes likes being the only ?Redhead? at Goodison Park. He also feels strongly that the best holding mid fielders are bald.
Do we really think that £5m is good value for him? I?m sure Moyes is always thinking of how much potential growth (in £ value and in team value) there is in each player he buys, and therefore a rusty player that was aquired on a free last year is probably not high on his list now for £5m.
I?ve got the official reason as to why Moyes didnt pursue Sidwell!......... Cos he?s shite!
And that goes for Fletcher as well! If we sign him then I?ll be very disappointed regardless of how skint we are.... there's better players than Fletcher and Sidwell in my opinion!
...because we’ll sign someone better.
There could be another reason although this wouldn't sit well with any with doom and gloom reasons for not signing him, Maybe Moyes doesn't rate him that highly?
I haven?t seen Sidwell play so much to be honest, but if he is £5m and we?re not bidding then we can be fairly happy that its Moyes who has someone better in mind.
Personally I?d like to see Paul Scharner replace Cars; 6ft 3", can cover at centre half and at 28 he?s sufficiently experienced to play in that position.... I?m not sure, but I think he might soon be out of contract at Wigan too.
Personally I?d like to see Paul Scharner replace Cars; 6ft 3", can cover at centre half and at 28 he?s sufficiently experienced to play in that position.... I?m not sure, but I think he might soon be out of contract at Wigan too.
Simple .. because he’s not good enough. He was easily the worst player on the park at Goodison in the League Cup. I’m pleased that we didn’t splash what little cash we have on the likes of Sidwell.
Please don’t panic into the first bod that comes along - just because we haven’t signed anyone yet. There’ll be better players out then soon enough.
Please don’t panic into the first bod that comes along - just because we haven’t signed anyone yet. There’ll be better players out then soon enough.
Personally speaking I think we?re better off without Sidwell and I would go as far to say that Villa without Barry and with Sidwell is a step backwards for them.....if they are trying to catch us then that?s not the way to go about it.............I know they didn?t sell Barry through choice but the end result is a good one for us I think. The only good thing for them is that Barry?s sale has generated cash (assuming it goes through of course).....but then they have cash so big deal.
I?m really trying to keep calm about the overall transfer activity / financial situation but losing Sidwell won?t add to my worries.
As to Manny... if we have got him on loan.... isn?t that good business... that frees up transfer money for other players...... £6m might be a good deal for him (actually it IS a good deal for him) but if we have him loan for a year and that money can be used elsewhere..... sounds ok to me.
I?m really trying to keep calm about the overall transfer activity / financial situation but losing Sidwell won?t add to my worries.
As to Manny... if we have got him on loan.... isn?t that good business... that frees up transfer money for other players...... £6m might be a good deal for him (actually it IS a good deal for him) but if we have him loan for a year and that money can be used elsewhere..... sounds ok to me.
He?s not as bad as a lot of people are making out. He?s a decent box-to-box midfielder who?d be a useful player to have. Saying this, though, I wouldn?t pay £5/6 million for him. He?s not worth that and he wouldn?t offer us anything different to what we already have.
I can see why Villa has bought him. They?ve got a smaller squad than us and have just lost there captain and one of there best players. He?s got nothing on Barry though and I?d be happy to see Reo-Coker and Sidwell playing centrally for Villa next season. Very one-dimensional partnership, all huff and puff and a genuine lack of creativity.
I?d prefer Fletcher to be honest. I?m not a big fan of Darren Fletcher but I?d say he is better than Sidwell. He?s bigger, has more energy and is better on the ball. I was a bit wary of us going for him at first but if he?s coming as a squad player I don?t mind. If we can get Fernandes, Fletcher and a ball winner then we?ll have some good options centrally. Add Cahill and Osman to that and we should be ready to go.
Personally I?d like our new ball winner to be Alou Diarra the ex-Liverpool reserve player. Yes I know a lot of people like completely disagree but he?s really come on as a player since he left Liverpool and fits the bill. He?s 6ft 3, strong, athletic, good in the air and tidy in his distribution. He has no offensive game but I think we do need at least one out and out defensive midfielder in the squad. We?ve also been linked with him a few times so he is realistic. Really he?s a poor man?s Viera and a rich mans Sissoko.
I can see why Villa has bought him. They?ve got a smaller squad than us and have just lost there captain and one of there best players. He?s got nothing on Barry though and I?d be happy to see Reo-Coker and Sidwell playing centrally for Villa next season. Very one-dimensional partnership, all huff and puff and a genuine lack of creativity.
I?d prefer Fletcher to be honest. I?m not a big fan of Darren Fletcher but I?d say he is better than Sidwell. He?s bigger, has more energy and is better on the ball. I was a bit wary of us going for him at first but if he?s coming as a squad player I don?t mind. If we can get Fernandes, Fletcher and a ball winner then we?ll have some good options centrally. Add Cahill and Osman to that and we should be ready to go.
Personally I?d like our new ball winner to be Alou Diarra the ex-Liverpool reserve player. Yes I know a lot of people like completely disagree but he?s really come on as a player since he left Liverpool and fits the bill. He?s 6ft 3, strong, athletic, good in the air and tidy in his distribution. He has no offensive game but I think we do need at least one out and out defensive midfielder in the squad. We?ve also been linked with him a few times so he is realistic. Really he?s a poor man?s Viera and a rich mans Sissoko.
Are you really suprised?
It will soon emerge that the ideal replacement for Carsley was under our noses all the time........ that?s right...... good old Captain Marvel himself.
It will soon emerge that the ideal replacement for Carsley was under our noses all the time........ that?s right...... good old Captain Marvel himself.
Steve who......
Did he even play last year.
Why should we sign bench warmers if we are going to compete with the so called big clubs.
sorry for bad sense of humor.
Did he even play last year.
Why should we sign bench warmers if we are going to compete with the so called big clubs.
sorry for bad sense of humor.
Moyes, get your thumb out of your arse!!!!! Sidwell is a cracking player and was going for a good price. I really think we missed out. the next Carsley is off to Villa!! They have made a great signing there, I just hope we've got one or two to smile about in the next few weeks. Keeping the faith in the capital (just about), COYB
Jay; 2 weeks ago the Express reported Siwell would go to Villa for £5Mill and a half cut in pay £60k to £30Kk Not likely to blow even our wage structure apart..
Carsley used to commute from the Midlands, so it would be no big deal for Sidwell to commute from Reading to Villa. Some players and WAGs don?t move N of the Watford Gap
Gary, IF Capt. Marvel goes in to the holding role, will it be like signing a new player??
Carsley used to commute from the Midlands, so it would be no big deal for Sidwell to commute from Reading to Villa. Some players and WAGs don?t move N of the Watford Gap
Gary, IF Capt. Marvel goes in to the holding role, will it be like signing a new player??
Michael
I know what your saying and agree to a certain extent , but the transfer window changes each year,
The available players are split into three groups:
The top internationals will go to the sky 4 or somewhere like Newcastle ,City, or Spurs for the money
The second group - The potentially good - are in far greater demand.even the Wigans and the Boltons can afford 1-2 of them, if you don't get in early, you don't get in.
DM has always pursued Sidwell, I?m not sure theres a player who we?ve been linked with more.
Now all of a sudden he?s gone to Villa at a very good price and we were?nt interested?
Whether you rate Sidwell or not, if we could have afforded him, he?d be an Everton player now.
I know what your saying and agree to a certain extent , but the transfer window changes each year,
The available players are split into three groups:
- The top internationals
- The potentialy very good given the right club
- The not good enough
The top internationals will go to the sky 4 or somewhere like Newcastle ,City, or Spurs for the money
The second group - The potentially good - are in far greater demand.even the Wigans and the Boltons can afford 1-2 of them, if you don't get in early, you don't get in.
DM has always pursued Sidwell, I?m not sure theres a player who we?ve been linked with more.
Now all of a sudden he?s gone to Villa at a very good price and we were?nt interested?
Whether you rate Sidwell or not, if we could have afforded him, he?d be an Everton player now.
Can’t understand how some people slag Sidwell’s ability off. He was voted the best championship player connsistently before Reading were promoted - you know the same way that Cahill was. He played reasonable well for Reading and their midfield was never the same after he left. To say because he didn’t play means he is shite would also mean Shaun Wright-Philips must also be shite as he hardly ever plays too? I think the club is potless hence the lack of bids and this stems from not being able to bid - Christ even the bid for Aaron was on the never never and if lard arse is doing the buying and selling he couldn’t sell a drowning man a life jacket as only BK believes anyting he says.
Scott Parker - remember him? Rave reviews, England material etc etc. He goes to Chelsea then what happens? He hardly gets a game, his form suffers and he goes to Newcastle - isn?t he now at West Ham?
From being one of the best midfield players in the PL his career has gone downhill - the "dream move" to Chelsea didn?t really work out did it ? It looks to me that Sidwell ?s career is heading in the same direction.
Do you really think the Villa fans will be thinking to themselves, " We gonna lose Gareth Barry ? but never mind we?ll get Steve Sidwell and some extra dosh to spend"?? Think they are going to be dancing in the streets around Villa Park at signing Sidwell? I don?t think they will!!!
Could it be that Moyes has reviewed the situation and realised that Sidwell isn?t all that special after all?A big fish at Reading but given the opportunity at Chelsea, what did he do?? Nowt special.
I wondered how long it would be before not buying a player, who DM is obviously not interested in, became KW and BK?s fault. Its sad that people have to use the fact that ?Dithering Davey? hasn't bid for a player he doesn't feel fits into Everton, as an opportunity to complain about the board.
I personally I was shocked when Sidwell went to Chelsea, I haven't seen anything from him that tells me he is world class. I won't say he shite, as he is obviously not. But again this summer, I am putting my faith in DM and the board. Is it blind faith? Certainly not based on the fact our club is improving. The evidence is there to see after last years performance, and general standard of the squad.
Even if we dont buy anyone, I still think we have a higher quality of squad than our other competitors for 4th/5th. And more importantly, we have a desire in this side that gives an extra 10% which can sometimes make up for a lack of natural skill.
What I am trying to say is, that DM is looking for players of that ilk, of that personality. They may be technically able, but what good is it if they dont fit into the squad?? Moyes learnt heavily from his biggest transfer mistake (Krøldrup), and will surely not be pushed into speedy aquisitions that would dent his world class ability to pick out gems.
I have noticed some of the names on here complaining about transfers, are also the same ones who last year pointed out how we ?missed out? on Barton, Nugent etc.
I can understand apprehension, and being nervous while our peers buy players around us. But the team we ALREADY have is pretty damn good, so now it takes a bit longer to improve on that, and obviously a lot more cash. I really enjoyed watching Everton for the best part of last season, and that something I haven't been able to say for long time.
I personally I was shocked when Sidwell went to Chelsea, I haven't seen anything from him that tells me he is world class. I won't say he shite, as he is obviously not. But again this summer, I am putting my faith in DM and the board. Is it blind faith? Certainly not based on the fact our club is improving. The evidence is there to see after last years performance, and general standard of the squad.
Even if we dont buy anyone, I still think we have a higher quality of squad than our other competitors for 4th/5th. And more importantly, we have a desire in this side that gives an extra 10% which can sometimes make up for a lack of natural skill.
What I am trying to say is, that DM is looking for players of that ilk, of that personality. They may be technically able, but what good is it if they dont fit into the squad?? Moyes learnt heavily from his biggest transfer mistake (Krøldrup), and will surely not be pushed into speedy aquisitions that would dent his world class ability to pick out gems.
I have noticed some of the names on here complaining about transfers, are also the same ones who last year pointed out how we ?missed out? on Barton, Nugent etc.
I can understand apprehension, and being nervous while our peers buy players around us. But the team we ALREADY have is pretty damn good, so now it takes a bit longer to improve on that, and obviously a lot more cash. I really enjoyed watching Everton for the best part of last season, and that something I haven't been able to say for long time.
Dan B so how isn’t the buying of players the board’s fault exactly when it’s their job to find the cash and do the deal and not the manager? Are you sure you are not a club plant or Phil Chuckle brother with the if we don’t buy anyone line? Are you really so sure we could complete a full season without injuries and/or suspensions that would mean unless DM is to actually play kids who have never made an appearance in the EPL or get AvDM sober enough to play 90mins (which he has yet to do by the way) then can you please tell us all how you put a squad and bench out of what we have left at the club? Your blind faith is astonishing.
Who does Moyes think he is? Deciding certain players arent good enough for Everton. He want?s to get his act together and sign any old shite that?s going. Especially if the media say so!!!!
I like Sidwell, and I?d like to have seen us try for him. Then again, I remember when he moved to Chelsea "not to warm the bench." Coppell came out and said that there was no way Reading could match the wages that Chelsea would pay him. I don?t think that we could either.
I still think this was part of the reason that we never tried to get Scott Parker again. We simply cannot afford their wages without reworking our wage structure.
I hope that Moyes has someone else in mind; I do think that Manny at £6 million (as opposed to another loan) would be a move forward.
I still think this was part of the reason that we never tried to get Scott Parker again. We simply cannot afford their wages without reworking our wage structure.
I hope that Moyes has someone else in mind; I do think that Manny at £6 million (as opposed to another loan) would be a move forward.
Villa signed Sidwell the other day! So maybe just maybe........
Gavin,
I think you are missing the point that Dan is trying to make in his post in that what I believe he is trying to say is that our squad is now of a high standard and therefore it is harder to improve upon it than for example it would have been two years ago.
You need to break out of your ’everything in the world is Bully’s fault’ mentality and actually think about what some of the posters on here are saying.
I think you are missing the point that Dan is trying to make in his post in that what I believe he is trying to say is that our squad is now of a high standard and therefore it is harder to improve upon it than for example it would have been two years ago.
You need to break out of your ’everything in the world is Bully’s fault’ mentality and actually think about what some of the posters on here are saying.
We definetly need more numbers but if Moyes has someone better lined up we should bring them in. Is Sidwell all he?s cracked up to be anyway he was a decent player at Reading and it?s hard to understand why Chelsea bought him and why he thought he?d beable to get a game there. I?d rather we saved £5 mill not buying him and used the £5 mill as additional money to bring in a class act like Fernandes, but it doesn?t look like he?ll be coming back. We desperately need a hardworking powerful centre mid or teams will run right through us next season as Phil Neville is the only thing stopping them who could attempt to play the defensive central midfield role.
Sidwell?s no great miss and I cannot understand why so many of our number are so tetchy about the lack of early signings. My great pal is an agent and he assures me that business throughout the leagues is slow this year,principally because clubs do not wish to pay ?holiday money?, pre-season preparation is less important now players keep themselves at a reasonable level of fitness and, as far as the Prem is concerned,agents? videos have been delayed due to the need to include highlights from the Euro tournament.
Once these are in circulation we can expect plenty of action!
Once these are in circulation we can expect plenty of action!
What happened to Appiah from last summer?s transfer fun and games? He seemed like a decent player as replacement for Carsley based on his World Cup performances.
Kevin your comment reads "Everyone has had their say and I know it’s only Moyes that knows. And we will get the usual leave it to him "in Moyes we trust and all that nonsence!!"
To be honest, whether you trust him or not is not his concern, we as supportors have never & will never have a say in who our club signs, so keep spouting your fantasy wishlist of Arshavin, Sidwell, Riquelme, Barton, Nugent, Johnson, Topal, Lennon or whoever we get loosly linked to in rag mags etc etc.
I’ll wait for actual news lads......
To be honest, whether you trust him or not is not his concern, we as supportors have never & will never have a say in who our club signs, so keep spouting your fantasy wishlist of Arshavin, Sidwell, Riquelme, Barton, Nugent, Johnson, Topal, Lennon or whoever we get loosly linked to in rag mags etc etc.
I’ll wait for actual news lads......
Steve Templeton take it you were happy when injuries hit our"higher quality" squad we are lacking depth were even a single injury has consequences, so Bully and Billy Bullshitter I would say have an impact. Dan’s point about quality of squad needs to take into account physical numbers after all you need to have 11 players plus a bench, if that quality squad has injuries or suspensions who do you play - Mr Invisible on the wing, Mr We Didn’t sign anyone up front, Mr Lost out at Defensive Midfield? Maybe you should take of your blinkers on pro BK and KW and read what the posters are saying?
Gavin,
Did you not notice that our best two attacking midfielders were missing/not 100% for the majority of last season?
You cannot afford to lose two players of that calibre for that long, without effect. Essentially, it will improve the midfield on last season without paying a penny. So the only area?s I can see we need to fill is a 2nd Keeper, Right back, and holding midfielder. Apart from that, you are looking at £10-15 million to improve on the other players currently in the first team. So realistically once we have filled those critical births, are we going to have enough left over to improve? The answer is no. I believe Moyes is going to look to use Rodwell and JPK more, rather than bringing in an average player just to ?make up the numbers?. Sidwell is not any better than our current midfield, and is not a defensive midfielder, so why bring him in? Just because he is available? And would he want to come knowing when our first team is fit he wont get a sniff? I just don't see the logic.
I believe EFC have a long term plan, and I agree with it. Instead of paying £5 million for Sidwell?s, I think Moyes keeps on the lookout for the Lescotts/Cahills/Artetas. Players like that are not always available, if they are not, make do with what you have. Don't just bring in any old shite to fill the squad. It has worked for a few seasons now where we have made do, can anyone say why it won't work again? I 100% agree the squad needs numbers. But it's all about quality for me. Osman is the perfect example of what I mean about long-term plan. He will become a fringe player this season if we don't suffer the same injury problems. When you improve, your first team become squad players. And so on and so forth. No football team plans for injuries to their best players.
Football is about long-term vision, and Everton appear to be subscribing to that. I apologise if it doesn't come across clearly, it makes sense in my head!
Did you not notice that our best two attacking midfielders were missing/not 100% for the majority of last season?
You cannot afford to lose two players of that calibre for that long, without effect. Essentially, it will improve the midfield on last season without paying a penny. So the only area?s I can see we need to fill is a 2nd Keeper, Right back, and holding midfielder. Apart from that, you are looking at £10-15 million to improve on the other players currently in the first team. So realistically once we have filled those critical births, are we going to have enough left over to improve? The answer is no. I believe Moyes is going to look to use Rodwell and JPK more, rather than bringing in an average player just to ?make up the numbers?. Sidwell is not any better than our current midfield, and is not a defensive midfielder, so why bring him in? Just because he is available? And would he want to come knowing when our first team is fit he wont get a sniff? I just don't see the logic.
I believe EFC have a long term plan, and I agree with it. Instead of paying £5 million for Sidwell?s, I think Moyes keeps on the lookout for the Lescotts/Cahills/Artetas. Players like that are not always available, if they are not, make do with what you have. Don't just bring in any old shite to fill the squad. It has worked for a few seasons now where we have made do, can anyone say why it won't work again? I 100% agree the squad needs numbers. But it's all about quality for me. Osman is the perfect example of what I mean about long-term plan. He will become a fringe player this season if we don't suffer the same injury problems. When you improve, your first team become squad players. And so on and so forth. No football team plans for injuries to their best players.
Football is about long-term vision, and Everton appear to be subscribing to that. I apologise if it doesn't come across clearly, it makes sense in my head!
John, mine is not a fantasy wish-list, just surprised that we haven?t gone for Sidwell!!
Too late now any way!!
I genuinely rate the guy - in my opinion he would have been good value for money.
As a matter of interest trusting Moyes is of no consequence to me as his brand of football does nothing for me, admittedly he has improved us, but where do we go from here?
Too late now any way!!
I genuinely rate the guy - in my opinion he would have been good value for money.
As a matter of interest trusting Moyes is of no consequence to me as his brand of football does nothing for me, admittedly he has improved us, but where do we go from here?
Sidwell is hardly a Cars replacement as he doesnt play that position. Although difficult to master the "Carsley" or "Makalele" position is relatively simple. High energy, strong tackling and simple distribution. Nothing fancy. Hargreaves will rarely play an amazing thru ball but breaks the play and gives it simply to the wingers or Scholesy.
Rodwell who started as a CB, has been consistently played in Def Mid for the reserves and England and i wouldnt be surprised if he started against PSV then Blackburn. The club are raising his profile on the official site with his diaries and he was given a few minutes last season and came on ahead of new signing Gosling v Newcastle. This all points to him coming in. I think we still need experienced cover here but goals from midefield are an issue and needs sorting. Who is to say that we will always need to play a holding midfielder. We should be attacking all clubs at home and the majority away. A Carsley v Hull for example when Fernandes (if signed) or Ossie/Kissock could be there may be the way forward. Save def mid for the Old Trafford & Emirates trips etc..
Rodwell who started as a CB, has been consistently played in Def Mid for the reserves and England and i wouldnt be surprised if he started against PSV then Blackburn. The club are raising his profile on the official site with his diaries and he was given a few minutes last season and came on ahead of new signing Gosling v Newcastle. This all points to him coming in. I think we still need experienced cover here but goals from midefield are an issue and needs sorting. Who is to say that we will always need to play a holding midfielder. We should be attacking all clubs at home and the majority away. A Carsley v Hull for example when Fernandes (if signed) or Ossie/Kissock could be there may be the way forward. Save def mid for the Old Trafford & Emirates trips etc..
Dan, How the hell can you assume that Cahill and Arteta will avoid injury/breakdown in the coming season? Both have form on that count over a while now and they seem to be taking an age to get back into action. Who?s to say that either will ever regain their old level of competance? We deperately need cover on all fronts for if you glibly assume that next season will prove anymore of a strain on our resources you are deluding yourself!
Maybe Sidwell blotted his copybook in Moyes eyes when he choose to sit on his overpaid ars for a year at Chelsea rather than make himself availble for a club that he would actually play for. Did he really think he would get a game ahead of fat frank, essien, ballack? It doesnt say much about the lad maybe his agent influenced him.
I cant believe what I’m reading here.
So when we get our injured players fit we’ll be ok ? Its so reassuring to know, Cahill, Vaughany, Arteta, Baines and Aj wont be getting injured anymore
The Shite - you know the team we’re trying to close the gap on - have been parading their two new signings, thats before Barry and Keane make their minds up, their squad was already twice the size of ours
The people with the " it’ll be alright on the night attitude" are the very people who hold this club back, they settle for 5th/ 6th as if it was some sort of achievement
DM does’nt rate Sidwell ? that has to be the best yet
Why the fuck has he been persuing him for the past three seasons then ?
So when we get our injured players fit we’ll be ok ? Its so reassuring to know, Cahill, Vaughany, Arteta, Baines and Aj wont be getting injured anymore
The Shite - you know the team we’re trying to close the gap on - have been parading their two new signings, thats before Barry and Keane make their minds up, their squad was already twice the size of ours
The people with the " it’ll be alright on the night attitude" are the very people who hold this club back, they settle for 5th/ 6th as if it was some sort of achievement
DM does’nt rate Sidwell ? that has to be the best yet
Why the fuck has he been persuing him for the past three seasons then ?
Gavin,
So let me get this right in my head - it’a all ’Bully’s’ and ’Bullshitters’ fault that we did not sign Sidwell and this had nothing whatsoever to do with the fact that Moyes did not want him?
Ok mate, I hold my hands up you have got me on that one.
Where is your evidence that we have no money to spend?
Finally, who said I was pro-BK and KW?
So let me get this right in my head - it’a all ’Bully’s’ and ’Bullshitters’ fault that we did not sign Sidwell and this had nothing whatsoever to do with the fact that Moyes did not want him?
Ok mate, I hold my hands up you have got me on that one.
Where is your evidence that we have no money to spend?
Finally, who said I was pro-BK and KW?
Probably cos Moyes doesn?t want him. Last season we all said why not Nugent or Richardson, and we got Yakubu & Pienaar. I think if Moyes wants someone then we would make an official approach, that doesn?t mean it would be accepted, but I?m sure we would have approached nevertheless.
Kevin, Sidwell shoulda come to us last season or a club similar or even stayed at Reading to play football rather than take the packet of wedge & sit on the bench.
the fantasy wish list shout was a go at the madness that goes on over the summer, sometimes its funny but people get too worked up over these very very dodgy links.
I disagree with Moyes, your obviously very hard to please Kev but we seem to be going places and I’m talking on the field only as off the field is a different matter & conversation all together!
But I think our performance last season was fantastic, of course we had bad days and times we shoulda done better but we improved in nearly every department last year and looked great at times away from home (Tottenham, City & West Ham) I particularly enjoyed. Coupled with our best cup run in years, a good crack at europe........there is plenty of places to go from here. Critisicm is always warranted when they play poorly but the pesimism on here sometimes is off the scale.
the fantasy wish list shout was a go at the madness that goes on over the summer, sometimes its funny but people get too worked up over these very very dodgy links.
I disagree with Moyes, your obviously very hard to please Kev but we seem to be going places and I’m talking on the field only as off the field is a different matter & conversation all together!
But I think our performance last season was fantastic, of course we had bad days and times we shoulda done better but we improved in nearly every department last year and looked great at times away from home (Tottenham, City & West Ham) I particularly enjoyed. Coupled with our best cup run in years, a good crack at europe........there is plenty of places to go from here. Critisicm is always warranted when they play poorly but the pesimism on here sometimes is off the scale.
Steve T if DM wasn’t interested then why make enquiries about him in January has he gone shite all of a sudden and the pro BK and KW read the lines take off the all Bully’s fault type shite as it’s not the only line in the posting and to reiterate - the Chairman finds the funds, the CEO negotiates the deal, the manager merely suggests players he is interested in QED BK and KW perform the business element.
Dan yes we have quality players but this party line of "like new players" is wearing thin and Cahill has now broken his foot three times? Vaughan has been injured more than he has played, Arteta played through his injury as we don’t have depth in the squad to replace him and he got slated by many for playing shite, we need depth in the squad and we need those players to gel as a squad as they will be brought on in the season due to the inevitable injuries and suspensions - to stay still in football costs money the investment side is again down to the board not the fans so yes agree the quality needed would cost the best part of £15m to £20m but when you hear the likes of Wigan and Sunderland able to find £10m to bid for a player with their final table standings and lower attendances you wonder what the hell is going on upstairs at the club.
Dan yes we have quality players but this party line of "like new players" is wearing thin and Cahill has now broken his foot three times? Vaughan has been injured more than he has played, Arteta played through his injury as we don’t have depth in the squad to replace him and he got slated by many for playing shite, we need depth in the squad and we need those players to gel as a squad as they will be brought on in the season due to the inevitable injuries and suspensions - to stay still in football costs money the investment side is again down to the board not the fans so yes agree the quality needed would cost the best part of £15m to £20m but when you hear the likes of Wigan and Sunderland able to find £10m to bid for a player with their final table standings and lower attendances you wonder what the hell is going on upstairs at the club.
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