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I have it on very good authority that DM will sign his contract and the go ahead for Destinatiion Kirkby will be announced in the next 48 hours in a press conference.
The Everton Board of Directors have received the good news at the end of last week which is why DM has started his contract negotiations now and there is expected to be no complications.
Moyes's transfer budget will be sizable ? one of the conditions of his signing ? but "not in the region of the big 4". He already has his targets and will be working to sign them in the next 2 weeks.
The current loans that have been talked about are bridging loans to cover the arrival of the Sky money due after the start of the season.
The new stadium money is already in place; apparently Tesco Terry was prepared to call off the whole thing during the negotiations unless he saw the money was there or would be there for Everton's financial contribution ? he did not want Tesco associated with another Kings Dock fiasco (fearing that Tesco would be blamed).
This caused quite a huff between Bill and Tesco as Bill didn't like have his "word" doubted. As a result LCC and Bestway saw an opportunity to move in and present their own ideas.
But Bill was "persuaded" that Kirkby was the only viable solution and the differences were patched up as Everton's financial contribution was guarenteed and planned to Tesco?s requirements.
The Bellefield development will be put on hold for at least 2 years to officially "concider all options" realisticly Everton have been advised that the current economic climate will mean that its 2 years at least before it becomes viable and maximises revenue. In the meantime a PR campaign is to be launched slowly to persuade locals the the development of the site is a good idea and won't stretch local resources.
And re the Fernandes saga. The reason why there are many stories are about it is because Moyes stated that he definitely wanted Fernandes for next season. Two plans were drawn up. If Kirkby fell through he would be loaned for a season with an option for about £6 - 8 million.
If Kirkby did go ahead then he would be purchased for £6 million as a "I told you this was a good idea look at what we baught" gesture to fans.
Valencia are aware that we want him and want rid of him themselves so are happy to wait 2 weeks or so for us to decide if we want him perminantly or on loan. They reduced his price from 8 to 6 to persuade us to buy him.
Can't say how I know and if you want to treat it as BS that's fine, I understand. All I can say is that it,s not a tea-lady, groundsman, or mate's cousin's girlfriend's cat!
Mark Perry, Posted 16/07/2008 at 14:20:50
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Tesco have simply found another mechanism through sports venues to "every little helps" their expansion, it in some ways shows the glaring business acumen of a boss that knows how to succeed at all costs in Leahy and one that is clueless and potless in BK. Oh and Mark Perry you lert slip out of the bag that your mate is a he not she with your he and the Yak line in your response on the other thread you posted this on.
Although the board have claimed otherwise it’s always made sense that a transfer budget would depend on the ground move. You dont think that Robert Earl and anyone else who has helped us secure loans would offer help to a club who made a mess of this one do you?
Lets hope you’re right and by the time we move we’re even more successful than we are now.
Lets hope you’re right and by the time we move we’re even more successful than we are now.
We?ll see in 48 hours then Mark. :-)
On one hand I hope you?re wrong because I?m a no-voter (although I would go to Antartica if Everton built a new stadium there, so will go to Kirkby as well). On the other hand, the prospect of new signings is very appealing. I guess this is a short-term vs long-term issue...
On one hand I hope you?re wrong because I?m a no-voter (although I would go to Antartica if Everton built a new stadium there, so will go to Kirkby as well). On the other hand, the prospect of new signings is very appealing. I guess this is a short-term vs long-term issue...
Mark, why can?t you say how you know? How can you expect us to believe you otherwise?
Mark can?t say because his source is the devil?s grandmother, and he?s afraid he?ll be excommunicated by the Anglican church for keeping with such sources.
Don?t ask how I know this, I have it on good authority ;)
Don?t ask how I know this, I have it on good authority ;)
Tony Hughes, if Mark said "I?m Terry Leahy?s best mate and he told me" would you believe it then? I don?t think he can convince you no matter what he says...
Whether he?s right or wrong, I think something will be confirmed within that time frame...
The decision was supposed to be made on Monday (I think) and nobody?s heard anything so something's on the horizon...
The decision was supposed to be made on Monday (I think) and nobody?s heard anything so something's on the horizon...
I generally refuse to believe it when someone comes on to this website claiming to have a source who says that we’ll be signing a player. But the thing about this one is that it is very believable and a timescale of 48 hours has been put on it so we’ll know very soon whether it was BS or not.
I’m very much against Kirkby, but we need some good players soon, we need a better stadium and we need Moyes.
I just hope this isn’t another one of those ’my uncle’s granny’s friend’ told me rumours.
I’m very much against Kirkby, but we need some good players soon, we need a better stadium and we need Moyes.
I just hope this isn’t another one of those ’my uncle’s granny’s friend’ told me rumours.
Mark, an absolutely incredible version of events, thanks for the insight. It wouldn?t surprise me if there was a press conference on Friday or even Monday about DM signing a new contract.
Kev, interesting that you mention transfer budgets and Robert Earl, as a matter of interest why do you believe Robert Earl had such an involvement?
Kev, interesting that you mention transfer budgets and Robert Earl, as a matter of interest why do you believe Robert Earl had such an involvement?
Both Everton and Liverpool have ordered steel from a north east company for the new stadiums. Liverpool?s order is slightly bigger. I have also seen the diagrams and pictures for both stadiums. Can?t say I was to impressed with Everton?s stadium.
I hope the Fernandes bit is true coz if it’s not after you sayin that I’m afraid I’ll have to kill you! lol
A well-placed unnamed source cannot be verified as confidential information leaked out would cause a problem if the source was named at this stage. However, through contacts with another unnamed source not connected with the club or Tesco, don’t hold your breath on the 48 hour deadline for the announcement at a Press conference that DK has been approved.......
I have heard that Moyes wanted the board to do all they can at very high costs to bring in Arshavin!!! We will have to wait and see but Barca and other parties have cooled down on interest and Moyes is still a very BIG admirer
Mark Perry?s piece agrees with a whisper I?ve heard about Moyes and the stadium. Yes, the club did get approval last week but like Richard Harris I?m not sure we?ll hear anything in the next 48 hrs. Expect Monday at the earliest.
I have it on very good authority that if we don?t find the money to sign any new players, my son may be asked to put on his boots and get on the park!! That?s as believable as this 48 hour thread.
Even the players sasy "I think we will sign etc. etc" - they are oviously in the dark as much as we are, and I think they keep saying that - examples Phil Neville, Mikel, Jags and so on, to push up the sale of season tickets which they keep flogging all the time on the EFC website. You can fool some of the people some of the time etc. etc
Even the players sasy "I think we will sign etc. etc" - they are oviously in the dark as much as we are, and I think they keep saying that - examples Phil Neville, Mikel, Jags and so on, to push up the sale of season tickets which they keep flogging all the time on the EFC website. You can fool some of the people some of the time etc. etc
Somebody had it on "good authority" last week on this website, that Kirkby was 48 hours from being called in...
Mark Perry, can you ask yer dad Den, if the banana grove have any plans to re open...?
Mark Perry, can you ask yer dad Den, if the banana grove have any plans to re open...?
It’s getting called in, I told you last week !!!
I know who Mark Perry?s source is.
It is the national and local press!
All that he has done is colate the various reports we have all heard over the last month, into one speculative assumption.
The decision on Destination Kirkby has widely been reported as being announced by Friday. Read the Guardian, Daily Mail LAST WEEK for that exclusive...!
The only thing I cannot account for is this mysterious falling out and subsequent re-building of bridges between Terrence of Leahy and William Kenwright.
Its almost a good enough script for Emmerdale farm.
Here is an exclusive for you, the Everton replica kits are coming out NEXT week....
oh shit have I saw that somewhere before?
It is the national and local press!
All that he has done is colate the various reports we have all heard over the last month, into one speculative assumption.
The decision on Destination Kirkby has widely been reported as being announced by Friday. Read the Guardian, Daily Mail LAST WEEK for that exclusive...!
The only thing I cannot account for is this mysterious falling out and subsequent re-building of bridges between Terrence of Leahy and William Kenwright.
Its almost a good enough script for Emmerdale farm.
Here is an exclusive for you, the Everton replica kits are coming out NEXT week....
oh shit have I saw that somewhere before?
Tony Gee you?re getting confused (that?s if you?re referring to my post about DK getting called in).
I never stated it was getting called in within 48 hours, just that it WAS going to get called in.
Let?s see what happens eh?
I never stated it was getting called in within 48 hours, just that it WAS going to get called in.
Let?s see what happens eh?
So this "good authority" must not be a friend as that's betrayal if it is?
Seriously if someone told you something in confidence and to keep it schtum why would you boast about it on a forum. Which I presuming they did?
Unless of course you have something to gain from it ala kudos from your boss for good journalism etc..
Even if you're right Mark, what do you want for this knowledge a Blue Peter badge perhaps?
Why build people's hopes and expectations like that?
You might aswell have said it was the tea lady.
Seriously if someone told you something in confidence and to keep it schtum why would you boast about it on a forum. Which I presuming they did?
Unless of course you have something to gain from it ala kudos from your boss for good journalism etc..
Even if you're right Mark, what do you want for this knowledge a Blue Peter badge perhaps?
Why build people's hopes and expectations like that?
You might aswell have said it was the tea lady.
At Everton, 48 hours means three or four weeks. It's probably bollocks, but meanwhile let's all laugh at whats going on at the RS ? it?ll make the time pass quicker!
Both Mark and Brian who declare its getting called-in/not called-in are both being mischievious. The only person who will know will be Hazel Blears, up to late last week a senior editor at the Echo told me the club hadn't heard yet but were expecting to hear THIS week. So no one will have known last week either way. So unless Mark/Brian heard from someone close to Hazel Blears before the club had been officially informed then both are being less than truthful.
Amazing!
Reading ToffeeWeb is better than watching Corrie (I do) or Eastenders (I don?t) or watching a Hitchcock classic movie........the suspense and gossip and secrets and whispers and the odd backstabbing (okay, no wet shower involved.....oh, yeah "wet shower" involved.....the The RS get mentioned now and then too! Ha ha!) ..... anyway, it truly does my head in reading this site and I LOVE IT!!
As to the original posting by Mark.....who the hell knows or cares if he?s right..............when it?s FACT that?s when we care!
Sign Moyes now!
Sign Manny now!
Get Arshavin if possible!
COYB!!!
Reading ToffeeWeb is better than watching Corrie (I do) or Eastenders (I don?t) or watching a Hitchcock classic movie........the suspense and gossip and secrets and whispers and the odd backstabbing (okay, no wet shower involved.....oh, yeah "wet shower" involved.....the The RS get mentioned now and then too! Ha ha!) ..... anyway, it truly does my head in reading this site and I LOVE IT!!
As to the original posting by Mark.....who the hell knows or cares if he?s right..............when it?s FACT that?s when we care!
Sign Moyes now!
Sign Manny now!
Get Arshavin if possible!
COYB!!!
So to crystallise it all: it?s Mark Perry v Brian Williams, promoted by Don King.
The former categorically says it will not be called in (actually my fear, my gut instinct) and we?ll know this by Monday but the board already know it. The latter says it will be called in, that the board already know it, but puts no timeframe on an announcement.
Nutshell.
Oh, and both have reliable sources. Clearly, one of them hasn?t.
Either way, then, one of them will have some explaining to do on this site next week/next month.
You up for that, then, Mark? Brian? Whoever is proved wrong is prepared to come back here and explain all about "what happened"?
Meantime, Mark: any chance of revealing your source offline to MK as Brian Williams did two weeks ago? [rings bell and starts praying for a Brian Williams victory*
The former categorically says it will not be called in (actually my fear, my gut instinct) and we?ll know this by Monday but the board already know it. The latter says it will be called in, that the board already know it, but puts no timeframe on an announcement.
Nutshell.
Oh, and both have reliable sources. Clearly, one of them hasn?t.
Either way, then, one of them will have some explaining to do on this site next week/next month.
You up for that, then, Mark? Brian? Whoever is proved wrong is prepared to come back here and explain all about "what happened"?
Meantime, Mark: any chance of revealing your source offline to MK as Brian Williams did two weeks ago? [rings bell and starts praying for a Brian Williams victory*
Dave Wharton,
I?m a Saints fan as well and the two projects are quite different in several ways.
1. Saints new ground is to be built on wasteland.
2. It will offer increased capacity and is a significant improvement on Knowsley Road, a ground that has never reflected Saints excellence on the pitch.
3. Apart from causing the closure of a (naff) pub it's not upset anyone.
4. It'still in St Helens.
5. It' a fraction of the cost of the Kirkby project.
6. No Saints fan I know or have heard from has objected to the new ground, (possibly due to a mixture of 2 & 4).
I?m a Saints fan as well and the two projects are quite different in several ways.
1. Saints new ground is to be built on wasteland.
2. It will offer increased capacity and is a significant improvement on Knowsley Road, a ground that has never reflected Saints excellence on the pitch.
3. Apart from causing the closure of a (naff) pub it's not upset anyone.
4. It'still in St Helens.
5. It' a fraction of the cost of the Kirkby project.
6. No Saints fan I know or have heard from has objected to the new ground, (possibly due to a mixture of 2 & 4).
I?m confused about the cash, we are stopping the Everton in the community training at schools across the city because we haven?t got the funding and the trainer that told me also said their jobs are now looking dodgy as this is buttons compared to transfers. Would we really pull out if we had the cash as it works in that a few rednoses kids who train are now blues, much to their dads' dismay.
Greg- as to your comment: "Meantime, Mark: any chance of revealing your source offline to MK as Brian Williams did two weeks ago?"
You already have me disbelieving Brian?s story ? two weeks ago the GONW were asking for an extension because they needed more time, no way would there have been a decision two weeks ago.
Firstly, I?m not being mischevious. I find the fact that our great club seems to be on the verge of disaster whichever way things go really bothers me!
Secondly, If people really believe that "nobody" knows before any official announcement is made, then they?re very very naive indeed. There?s no business or organisation with more leaks or worse "secrecy" than government, and local government is the worst of the lot.
What I was told was told to me in good faith by someone who works at the club and has almost daily dealings with Bill Kenwright. Now if what he told me turns out to be wrong then I?m quite prepared to don my silk shorts and 12oz gloves *L*....
But he assured me that the Board knew full well it was going to be called in, he was very very sure of the fact and very clear too.
Secondly, If people really believe that "nobody" knows before any official announcement is made, then they?re very very naive indeed. There?s no business or organisation with more leaks or worse "secrecy" than government, and local government is the worst of the lot.
What I was told was told to me in good faith by someone who works at the club and has almost daily dealings with Bill Kenwright. Now if what he told me turns out to be wrong then I?m quite prepared to don my silk shorts and 12oz gloves *L*....
But he assured me that the Board knew full well it was going to be called in, he was very very sure of the fact and very clear too.
Mark M,
so are you saying that GP reflects our excellence on the pitch ?
so are you saying that GP reflects our excellence on the pitch ?
Errr Will....I think you’ll find the Kirkby project has more than a little bearing on money !
Brian, "But he assured me that the board knew full well it was going to be called in, he was very very sure of the fact and very clear too". - so fearing it might get called-in - "knowing full well" - "it was GOING TO BE called in" is not the same as KNOWING the decision after its made is it?
Mark is 1-0 up!!
I’ve just got my secretary to ring the Everton Press Office to check the time of Friday’s Press Conference (supposedly for Press Association) and they didn’t know what she was talking about!!
More rumour bollocks, I’m afraid.
More rumour bollocks, I’m afraid.
Peter,
well that wasn't my intention, no, but come to think about it its about right. Its ok but could be improved! Like GP our performance on the pitch is nowhere like what it was in the 60s or even the 80s.
I recognise that GP is past its best, I just don't accept its so crap its beyond saving.
well that wasn't my intention, no, but come to think about it its about right. Its ok but could be improved! Like GP our performance on the pitch is nowhere like what it was in the 60s or even the 80s.
I recognise that GP is past its best, I just don't accept its so crap its beyond saving.
Darren- Read your own post and then rewrite it in English as I cant make head nor tail of it.
I cant be clearer than to say the board KNEW a couple of weeks ago that it would be announced that the Kirkby project WILL be called in.
I cant be clearer than to say the board KNEW a couple of weeks ago that it would be announced that the Kirkby project WILL be called in.
I think people that claim to have inside knowledge must have some kind of source. And they must think it’s reliable too. What I mean is, I can’t believe anyone would actually be bothered to make all this shit up. Why would you do it? So much effort for nothing.
No it won’t !
So what I can gather Brian heard off a reliable source a couple of weeks ago it was expected to be called in/going to be called in. Around the same time though BK has spoken to ESCLA and re-iterated the club needs to move out of the city because no one will buy us, I doubt he would be saying that (liar he is though) if he knew it was going to be called in and the stadium debate would re-ignite again. Meanwhile Mark is saying he knows the decision was made at "the end of last week" to not call it in ? I presume by Blears after evaluating what the GONW/Tesco/KMBC have said. Oh well, let's wait and see.
*LOL* I’ve got to go now, work’s finished.
Needless to say I hope everything works out for us, one way or the other and we go on to have a great season!
COYB
Needless to say I hope everything works out for us, one way or the other and we go on to have a great season!
COYB
I think Mark's post has a bit more credibility because Brian?s inside info looked like it was around the time (or shortly after) the GONW asked for more time. The timeline for Mark's inside info is later and includes the time DK would be sitting on Hazel Blears's desk in London, with all the lobbying direct to her to come from Leahy, Georgie Howarth MP, KMBC and others.
Be first to learn the fate of Destination Kirkby.Log on to http://nds.coi.gov.uk and click ’North West’ from 0800 hours tomorrow.
Some comments are truly laughable - the best one being Everton have ordered the steel! Everton aren?t building a stadium,Tesco?s contractors are. Do you think one of the office staff at Goodison is ringing round for steel prices?
I think Brian’s posts have more credibility because he....well...look....ok, ok because he...because I just...WANT HIS VERSION TO BE RIGHT!!!
-sighs-
There.... HAPPY!?
-sighs-
There.... HAPPY!?
Hey Alan, do you think Government Office could tell us if Davey has signed his contract at the same time?It would save the Echo a job!
Alan Myers - have you been given the job of mopping up Kenwright?s tears of joy/despair?
Of course you have. Faithful retainer.
Of course you have. Faithful retainer.
Mark, utter rubbish, utter, utter rubish - you are so wrong.
Moyes has £7 million to spend + AJ money but he doesn?t want to sell AJ. He will sign his new contract but he?ll be off as soon as Newcastle sack Keegan.
Kenwright is in a complete mess and wants to sell up but no-one is offering him a good price for his shares so he?s reluctant to sell. DK is already dead in the water. Any hope of DK going ahead is being used as a smokescreen as the board have mortgaged the club to the hilt and we?ve no money.
Moyes has £7 million to spend + AJ money but he doesn?t want to sell AJ. He will sign his new contract but he?ll be off as soon as Newcastle sack Keegan.
Kenwright is in a complete mess and wants to sell up but no-one is offering him a good price for his shares so he?s reluctant to sell. DK is already dead in the water. Any hope of DK going ahead is being used as a smokescreen as the board have mortgaged the club to the hilt and we?ve no money.
Until Moyes, Kenwright or Wyness make a statement I treat everything as utter fabrication. Including this.
Alan Clarke, Where are your sources....??? Where have you got this information from...??
It never ceases to amaze me when people say oh such and such is going to happen, in 5.3 days and 25 seconds, and you heard it here folks...?? Does somebody on here have Bill Kenwright's ear?? Or David Moyes? for that matter....this posting here is utter tripe....if it turns out your right, it purely down to goddam good luck and nothing else....i love all this speculation sometimes.....sometimes....get a grip
It never ceases to amaze me when people say oh such and such is going to happen, in 5.3 days and 25 seconds, and you heard it here folks...?? Does somebody on here have Bill Kenwright's ear?? Or David Moyes? for that matter....this posting here is utter tripe....if it turns out your right, it purely down to goddam good luck and nothing else....i love all this speculation sometimes.....sometimes....get a grip
Crikey, if i had known I was going to get this much stick I wouldnt of botherd!
To clear some things up:
1) If you read my other posts on the "Glass half full" topic you will know that my source is a friend who works in the financial community.
2) My source has told me what they know to be true themselves not what they have surmised.
3) They dont have access to the board evrey day or even on a regular basis but they do work with the club on financial matters, long term plans etc.
4) As I said if you want to treat it as BS then thats fine by me, I have told you what someone who is connected to events has told me. It makes sence to me but wether its true or not we will have to wait and see.
If my friend is lying then by god i’ll give them the shoeing of their lives and shivalry be damned!
I am not a RS if I was I would have an IQ of 3 and would be dribbling on my computer not typing on it. I have been Everton Fan for over 28 years although I do have a brother who is RS - I hope he makes a recovery soon but I’m not holding my breath!
I strongly doubt that DM is going to Newcastle as that realy is a madhouse.
And if Blue Bill was as desperate to sell then the smoke press would of picked up on it by now.
To clear some things up:
1) If you read my other posts on the "Glass half full" topic you will know that my source is a friend who works in the financial community.
2) My source has told me what they know to be true themselves not what they have surmised.
3) They dont have access to the board evrey day or even on a regular basis but they do work with the club on financial matters, long term plans etc.
4) As I said if you want to treat it as BS then thats fine by me, I have told you what someone who is connected to events has told me. It makes sence to me but wether its true or not we will have to wait and see.
If my friend is lying then by god i’ll give them the shoeing of their lives and shivalry be damned!
I am not a RS if I was I would have an IQ of 3 and would be dribbling on my computer not typing on it. I have been Everton Fan for over 28 years although I do have a brother who is RS - I hope he makes a recovery soon but I’m not holding my breath!
I strongly doubt that DM is going to Newcastle as that realy is a madhouse.
And if Blue Bill was as desperate to sell then the smoke press would of picked up on it by now.
I think that Mark Perry is an arse with no inside information at all, and I feel I?m a bit sad responding to it.
However...
A friend of mine spoke to Blears a couple of days ago. On hearing my friend was from ?up here?, she (Blears), was very keen to gauge reaction to DK. She?s very aware of the heat involved.She knows that she?s open to many charges of corruption/dodgyness if Tesco Town doesn?t get ?called in?. (Not that she said that in so many words of course)
My worry, is that the phrase ?It might be a good one (election) to loose? is resounding all too loudly around Westminster and Whitehall at the moment. Maybe she thinks she can buy some powerful friends for the next time round?
However...
A friend of mine spoke to Blears a couple of days ago. On hearing my friend was from ?up here?, she (Blears), was very keen to gauge reaction to DK. She?s very aware of the heat involved.She knows that she?s open to many charges of corruption/dodgyness if Tesco Town doesn?t get ?called in?. (Not that she said that in so many words of course)
My worry, is that the phrase ?It might be a good one (election) to loose? is resounding all too loudly around Westminster and Whitehall at the moment. Maybe she thinks she can buy some powerful friends for the next time round?
Sean - by the time the fraud "Labour Party" get back into power after the decade of political wilderness opening up in front of them, Blears will be well past retirement. I doubt feathering a nest is weighing heavily on this decision.
If she knows the level of heat generated by this, and the obvious fact DK drives a coach and horses through planning guidelines, then this is a no-brainer for her... and I don't give a flying one who?s standing behind the Kirkby development.
If she knows the level of heat generated by this, and the obvious fact DK drives a coach and horses through planning guidelines, then this is a no-brainer for her... and I don't give a flying one who?s standing behind the Kirkby development.
I have an arse but I shit out of it not speak out of it. Maybe its different with other people?
Look this has more conspiracy theories than X-Files box set. Lets wait and see what happens If I?m right i?ll be buying my friend a lot of drinks and collecting some appologies from some posters on this site.
If I'm wrong my friend will be on the recieving end of twating and I?ll be on my way to a new life in The Arctic.
Look this has more conspiracy theories than X-Files box set. Lets wait and see what happens If I?m right i?ll be buying my friend a lot of drinks and collecting some appologies from some posters on this site.
If I'm wrong my friend will be on the recieving end of twating and I?ll be on my way to a new life in The Arctic.
Interesting post Sean, there was a report on some news channel the other day (may have been on newsnight actually) that Labour are resigned to losing the next election and they are looking for a caretaker (poss Jack Straw) to see them through at the next election- to maybe limit the electoral damage they’ll find themselves in to just a hung parliament or a narrow Tory win. There’s no way Labour will be out of power for ten years like dave kiely suggested, i’d say more like just one term, Labour are nowhere near in the bad state the Tories were in after their 18 year stint in office and the Tories arnt in anywhere near the good shape Labour were in back in 1997.
Mark Stone
Can I just correct you.
Until Moyes makes a statement treat everything else as fabrication!
Can I just correct you.
Until Moyes makes a statement treat everything else as fabrication!
Jason Lewtas - go and have a look how many single term governments there?s been since 1945 mate. Blears will have a long wait to get back into power...unless she jumps party of course!
"Labour" taking it on the chin to staunch the coming bllodbath? Fanciful.
"Labour" taking it on the chin to staunch the coming bllodbath? Fanciful.
Sean/Jason- the Labour Party are in an awful state and are £20m in debt, it wouldnt surprise me if they were offered some reward from some very rich people to ease their plight. Most rich people have deserted New Labour and are currently returning home to their natural mother- the Conservative Party.
Oaky, that’s enough politics, please. Everton stuff only. Thanks.
Wow that went on a bit, so are we signing Manny, Oh and what the fuck does "being called in" mean. My mum used to do that when I was playing out and late for my tea.
Didn't Bill state that the reason why he cannot sell the club was that it was in the same city as RS and therefore thats why he wants to move out, or have I been living in a hole.
It does kind of make sense that the board will wait to announce all the major news in one go. IF DK is getting the go ahead, it wouldn’t surprise me that we get told in the same breath as Moyes signing a new contract and us signing Fernandes (rumours about Arshavin aren’t going away either, but I see this being more in hope than anything else).
For all no voters, the news of Moyes finally signing plus the flashing of some transfer kitty cash may help destract them from the devastating news that we’re moving. For those no voters who also don’t like Moyes or rate Fernandes (and there are some of you out there) I would hide all sharp household objects and go sit in a padded room for the next 48 hours, just incase!
For all no voters, the news of Moyes finally signing plus the flashing of some transfer kitty cash may help destract them from the devastating news that we’re moving. For those no voters who also don’t like Moyes or rate Fernandes (and there are some of you out there) I would hide all sharp household objects and go sit in a padded room for the next 48 hours, just incase!
For all those doubting Brian's validity of the project getting called in. It seems odd that Terry Leahy has been in the press, as has Kenwright etc during this two-week extension. Even if it doesn?t get called in all this press would suggest that there was a liklihood of it getting called in and this is a last ditch attempt to stop it.
I for one don?t doubt that many insiders believed that the project was going to get called in. This two- week extension signifies to me that the decision was in the balance and that Brian's source may have been 100% reliable to his knowledge.
And for Colin near the top of this thread, I was merely using Earl as an example as to why investors may be keen to invest if we?re getting a new stadium. I haven?t heard of him putting his name forward to secure any loans since this started to go pear-shaped.
Mark - It all sounds very plausible and quite interesting the way you say it. Bit worried that the positivity regarding transfer funds seems linked in some way to the dreaded DK! I’m not getting into any judgement on you Mark - time will tell if it’s BS or good insight. It can’t be any more unreal than a post a month or so ago that said Arshavin was a shoe-in on July 1st!
What I want is DM to get his contract, at least £20M+ (ideally more) in the kitty, a re-think on Goodison redevelopment, two new quality midfielders (one holding, one a playmaker), AJ to stay - or a decent replacement, and a quality RB....oh, and a fit Tiny Tim! Perhaps ’m the one dreaming!!! COYBs
What I want is DM to get his contract, at least £20M+ (ideally more) in the kitty, a re-think on Goodison redevelopment, two new quality midfielders (one holding, one a playmaker), AJ to stay - or a decent replacement, and a quality RB....oh, and a fit Tiny Tim! Perhaps ’m the one dreaming!!! COYBs
If this is true, would it mean that we won?t have to sell AJ to free up funds?
Anyway folks, here’s some light relief: dunno how long it’s been there (does anyone even visit this part of the OS anymore?) but I think they’ve got the wrong fella in the photo-frame.
Is that that Bill Howard Kenbillwrightwrong fella? Dunno why, but it sorta seems to sum up the whole Kirkby farce for me. Anyway, keep it quiet: they might change it in the hope no-one notices.
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Is that that Bill Howard Kenbillwrightwrong fella? Dunno why, but it sorta seems to sum up the whole Kirkby farce for me. Anyway, keep it quiet: they might change it in the hope no-one notices.
/>http://stadium.evertonfc.com/news/new-stadium-essential.php
Definitely Mark Perry has given some hopes and reliefs to me, hope its the same for others. Lets now wait and see what happens.
This is a load of bollocks,
"Terry wanted to see that Bill had the money before he went ahead. Bill got in a huff, and that let in LCC and Bestway."
When the Bestway proposal came up, Everton?s contribution was nothing like the amount now being slated. Terry Leahy wrote a letter to Evertonians saying it would be £25M. Wyness said even less.
What money did Kenwright show Leahy?
Part of the money is supposed to come from the sale of Bellefield - originally estimated at £15M, but now subject to refused planning permission, and in the light of the credit crunch and construction slow down, valued at around half of that.
Steel prices have more than doubled since January, making the existing estimates pretty redundant anyway, despite the 10% built in for inflation.
The Yes voters and Kirkby apologists hanging onto every word in this letter need to decide which is bullshit - the content of this letter, or the Leahy/Wyness/Kenwright propaganda spouted during the voting process. They both can?t be true.
If it?s the latter, why would you trust anything else you have heard with regard to this shambles of a proposal?
The signing of Fernandes is supposed to appease the fans and prove that Kirkby is good for the club? It might convince the remaining few who think Kirkby is still a good idea, but anyone with half a brain won?t be taken in by that.
"Terry wanted to see that Bill had the money before he went ahead. Bill got in a huff, and that let in LCC and Bestway."
When the Bestway proposal came up, Everton?s contribution was nothing like the amount now being slated. Terry Leahy wrote a letter to Evertonians saying it would be £25M. Wyness said even less.
What money did Kenwright show Leahy?
Part of the money is supposed to come from the sale of Bellefield - originally estimated at £15M, but now subject to refused planning permission, and in the light of the credit crunch and construction slow down, valued at around half of that.
Steel prices have more than doubled since January, making the existing estimates pretty redundant anyway, despite the 10% built in for inflation.
The Yes voters and Kirkby apologists hanging onto every word in this letter need to decide which is bullshit - the content of this letter, or the Leahy/Wyness/Kenwright propaganda spouted during the voting process. They both can?t be true.
If it?s the latter, why would you trust anything else you have heard with regard to this shambles of a proposal?
The signing of Fernandes is supposed to appease the fans and prove that Kirkby is good for the club? It might convince the remaining few who think Kirkby is still a good idea, but anyone with half a brain won?t be taken in by that.
Hi Kev, I was just being mischievous wondering why you chose Robert Earl when mentioning investment. He hasn’t invested one penny in Everton, if anyone would care to show me otherwise I’d appreciate it.
I?m afraid this thread is starting to read like the public gallery awaiting a jury verdict (ie: if they?re back inside an hour he?s not guilty). In my experience, the public gallery usually gets it wrong. Good fun as it may be, why don?t we all just wait and see.
Peter, you say..
"Good fun as it may be, why don?t we all just wait and see"
The answer is in the question.
"Good fun as it may be, why don?t we all just wait and see"
The answer is in the question.
EJ, good point but the fun is tailing away...
Is it just me or...
and the winner for Best Visual Effects 2008 is.......
Chad Schofield
Brilliant Chad, I was already chuckling away and then I spotted the carrier bag..... priceless!
Chad Schofield
Brilliant Chad, I was already chuckling away and then I spotted the carrier bag..... priceless!
Mark Perry ? Your time?s running out !!!
Now that sounds like a man bouncing straight out of his corner!
I hope this signals you’ve been double and triple checking your source, Bri? Please say it’s so.
Anyway, just over 22 hrs to go.
I’m off to get a hot-dog and a massive coke...could be a long night.
I hope this signals you’ve been double and triple checking your source, Bri? Please say it’s so.
Anyway, just over 22 hrs to go.
I’m off to get a hot-dog and a massive coke...could be a long night.
Greg - If Brian IS bouncing straight out his corner, can I suggest he covers his Everlasts with that illegal stinging stuff that Sonny Liston had on his gloves for the first Clay fight. I mean...if a job’s worth doing and all that.
(Liston? One for the the teens there!)
(Liston? One for the the teens there!)
Mark, I’m sorry for my accusations (which have been edited out) but if you’re mate is so well connected ’within the financial community’ where the hell has skint Bill magiced up a sizeable amount of money from? We all know he doesn’t have a pot to piss in. That’s what doesn’t add up for me. Also we’ve been lead a merry dance by Bullshit Bill so many times now, I’ve always held that even after the YES vote, he wouldn’t be able to deliver a new stadium.
That’s why I’m inclined to believe Brian Williams et al and their informants.
That’s why I’m inclined to believe Brian Williams et al and their informants.
How long have we got now before this press conference is called?
I’m prepared to give him until "close of business" then I’m gonna come out of my corner and "whoop his ass"....(if you don’t get that, read through the thread).
I wish he WAS right......but I KNOW he isn’t!
Ding ding! Round one.
I wish he WAS right......but I KNOW he isn’t!
Ding ding! Round one.
Arse twitchin’ yet Mark ?........
Brian, what happens if you storm out of your corner, catch him flush and on the ten count the press conference is called?
Mark Perry - just 15 minutes left of your 48 Hour countdown.
I?ll get a pot of tea going, do some toast and turn Sky on. Looking forward to this announcement mate.
I?ll get a pot of tea going, do some toast and turn Sky on. Looking forward to this announcement mate.
Peter - I?ll give him the kiss of life, then I?ll dance round with my dick out, painted blue and white and sing the American National Anthem while I sweep the canvas with the broom that?s jammed up me arse.....nuff said?
Dont know why my original post got removed it was in no way offensive to anyone? No worries but yet again more ’reliably sourced’ articles prove to be no more than guff...............I wanted to say bullshit there but dont want another post removed.
Turn it in with all this my fathers mate, my birds uncle, my dogs vet has said things shit.
Turn it in with all this my fathers mate, my birds uncle, my dogs vet has said things shit.
About halfway through this "thread" the original author of the the thread itself,"Mark Perry", says "If you dont believe me look at my other postings on the glass half full, half empty post.
Well I was bored stiff with nothing better to do so I did.
I wish I had have done sooner becaue I now realise that Mark is probably about eleven.....................
...years old that is.
And I have to say "Well done young man, in getting so much reaction from just the good use of your imagination. You can see now just how much Evertonians want SOMETHING, some scrap of news, some hope, something to grasp onto". A+ for young Mark Perry.
Well I was bored stiff with nothing better to do so I did.
I wish I had have done sooner becaue I now realise that Mark is probably about eleven.....................
...years old that is.
And I have to say "Well done young man, in getting so much reaction from just the good use of your imagination. You can see now just how much Evertonians want SOMETHING, some scrap of news, some hope, something to grasp onto". A+ for young Mark Perry.
Dare I say it but it looks to me that we have TWO bullshitting attention seekers here - Brian and Mark, Mark for being wrong because clearly the club hasnt a clue what the GONW/Blears have decided yet, and Brian for telling us its getting called in TWO weeks ago, if that would have been the case we would well have had confirmation by now. So what if anyone has a ’source’ - anyone can just say that someone important "told me so".
Ian. Firstly I’m going to ignore your insult.
Secondly. What I said was that the board knew (two weeks ago) full well it would be called in. I did NOT say it would be called in two weeks ago.
They’re hardly going to announce it themselves, early, are they? FFS.
If you’re ging to resort to insults, get your facts right at least.
Secondly. What I said was that the board knew (two weeks ago) full well it would be called in. I did NOT say it would be called in two weeks ago.
They’re hardly going to announce it themselves, early, are they? FFS.
If you’re ging to resort to insults, get your facts right at least.
The club "full well" knowing it would be called in is not really newsworthy though is it Brian? Its just a hunch and the mere opinion of a source as well. Very different to what you said earlier in this thread which was "It?s getting called in, I told you last week !!!" The fact a couple of weeks has moved on since then is showing that there is some intense negotiations and discussions going on involving Howarth/Leahy/EFC and KMBC with the GONW and Blears and no decision has been made yet. Your post was no more credible than Mark's.
Some real whoppers who think they are in the know at the moment. I wont believe a thing until the decision has been made.
Brian: and to think you were going to do all that to an eleven year-old. Let’s not get ready to rumble.... !
Hmmmm..I?ll try?n word it differently.
The board WERE MADE AWARE several weeks ago, that it WOULD be called in.
Therefore my "It?s getting called in" statement stands.
As for my post being no more credible than Mark?s? I do believe the deadline for his press conference forecast has passed. Therefore mine, even if only by defualt is indeed more credible than his.
But I don?t want to get into a slanging match with a fellow Evertonian. Let?s wait and see...and I would like to stress at this point I dont even know how I feel personally about whether it getting called in is good or bad....either way I think we?re in for a rough ride!
The board WERE MADE AWARE several weeks ago, that it WOULD be called in.
Therefore my "It?s getting called in" statement stands.
As for my post being no more credible than Mark?s? I do believe the deadline for his press conference forecast has passed. Therefore mine, even if only by defualt is indeed more credible than his.
But I don?t want to get into a slanging match with a fellow Evertonian. Let?s wait and see...and I would like to stress at this point I dont even know how I feel personally about whether it getting called in is good or bad....either way I think we?re in for a rough ride!
Another 48 hours? No it's not a review of the once funny Eddie Murphy's poor sequel.
We have had two posts on here making all sorts of wild claims, Destination Kirkby will or won't get called, Moyes will sign his contract, money will be agreed for transfers etc etc... blah blah.
48 hours plus; so what's happened??? ............... Nothing. No there is no point in naming names or witch-hunting because that genuinly isn't my point. I just wish that sometimes these people would think how foolish they make themselves look when they post them. Now can we get back to ripping the board & playing FM as we normally are.
Can I not even mention the petiotion for the EGM then?
Looks like this site?s picked up on it now anyway!
Brian, please ignore John Lloyd. Of course you can mention the EGM and anything else you hear about. He's one who is in Shoot the Messenger mode...
Ssshhhhhhhh !
I have it on good authority that.....
Everton will do nothing in the next 48 hrs...
Just like the rest of the bloody summer!
I have it on good authority that.....
Everton will do nothing in the next 48 hrs...
Just like the rest of the bloody summer!
Chad - Priceless!!!! lol Respect Due!
Harsh Michael Kenrick, but to be fair I am just echoing what Ian Noone and others have said better than me.......
These two posts are bollocks, and the fact an EGM has been called is in no way linked to either Mark or Brians posts and they know it!! You're dead quick to jump on anyone who posts these dodgy transfer rumours (Barton's dads uncle has said he?s practically signed etc) but you don't think its right, that any of these completely false or unsubstantiated claims are shot down??
These two posts are bollocks, and the fact an EGM has been called is in no way linked to either Mark or Brians posts and they know it!! You're dead quick to jump on anyone who posts these dodgy transfer rumours (Barton's dads uncle has said he?s practically signed etc) but you don't think its right, that any of these completely false or unsubstantiated claims are shot down??
False?
Well Mark Perry?s was, obviously!
With regard to mine.... wait and see shall we John!
Well Mark Perry?s was, obviously!
With regard to mine.... wait and see shall we John!
Very reliable source??????
I waited... waited......waited.... still fucking waiting, still nothing about David Moyes, his contract, transfers, or any other business. Who the fuck are these people who feel they have to tell or make up bullshit to feed their egos? Next time there is a thread of this nature I will ignore it. COYB
Mark could now at least name and shame his source so that we can tick him off for future reference, instead of giving him a beating as he stated previously. That’s readily done if he actually exists. It has been already shown that there has been at least one person posting under several names on various sites planting similar seeds to that in Mark’s posting. The wording is often very similar in fact..... or has Mark disappeared for ever?
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I thought the parallels between the 2 clubs were quite similar; looking on the Saints website I found this article: http://www.saintsrlfc.com/clubinfo/377.
It has a picture of their new stadium (not as big as ours of course). I wonder if their approval is any indication that ours will also be given the go-ahead? Interesting though that Tesco's are doing this with other sporting clubs.