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Lack of interest of Irish Toffees

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When we sit here and discuss Everton's inability to attract investment and its inability to attract extra revenue, we should consider Everton pre-season tours. For the last number of year Everton has consistantly gone to Switzerland and Italy along with the US for their pre-season tours. These are not likely to be hotbeds of support for Everton.

Places like Ireland, Holland, Scandanavia where Everton do have a sizeable support are being ignored. Thousand travel from these places each week to attend matches in the UK. Sunderland noticed this through Niall Quinn and now they have about 1000 - 1500 supporters travelling each week to the Stadium of Light and this is increasing. If you consider that Sunderland had virtually no support here pre-Keane, this shows what could be achieved for a club with a traditional link to this country.

On the merchandising here in Ireland, getting the Everton gear is difficult but this is improving. JJB sell it here also (as far as I can see it is exclusive to this here. Could be wrong about that) but there is not a great selection of stuff. I get my Everton stuff in Liverpool when I travel to games.

There are a lot of Toffees here in Ireland, some are more hardcore than others. However, with a concerted campaign here (ie, a couple of friendlies, some player visits, some promotional work etc), I believe we could awaken the dormant support here and add to the revenue stream for the Club.

It has started. For years, I felt I was the only Toffee here among the reds of Liverpool and United but this is changing. I can see far more royal blue shirts around the street these days but Everton must cultivate this.
John  Nolan, Meath, Ireland     Posted 20/07/2008 at 11:17:37

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Cian Long
1   Posted 20/07/2008 at 19:35:48

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Totally agree with you, John. Everton are originally the club with the Irish connections in Liverpool, it's a shame it's always been ignored or just not known..... and if ya know yer history!!
Neil Madden
2   Posted 20/07/2008 at 20:01:37

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John you are spot on but to be honest the club is so badly run in all levels where to you begin? I’ve see the "Everton FC an Irish tradition" flag a couple of times. Pity the clowns running the club are incapable of making the best of any opportunities to take the club forward in the area of marketing.
Cathal Donnellan
3   Posted 20/07/2008 at 20:05:13

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Didn't Everton play in Norn Ireland last year??
Karl Masters
4   Posted 20/07/2008 at 20:08:23

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The Club cannot even market itself properly in Liverpool, never mind anywhere else. Pathetic really, especially when you consider the progresson the pitch in recent years.
Dave Travis
5   Posted 20/07/2008 at 20:15:41

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Couldn’t agree more. I am a Scouser living in Galway, & there would be big support here if Everton came over. Our local club, Colga FC, runs a two week annual camp with Everton in the Community coaches. As a result Everton are one of the most high profile clubs in the area, with lots of kids wearing Everton shirts. It wouldn’t take much effort from Everton to re-ignite the big latent support over here.
Paul Gladwell
6   Posted 20/07/2008 at 20:25:02

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In the late sixties, the support there was massive and surely there is a massive potential now. Instead of dreaming of selling kits in Thailand, a place where they can get them for pennies in the markets. But, as stated, if they dont know how to market their own city, how can they do another country? Nevermind... I am sure Tescos will have it all sorted for Kirkby Town.
jamie carroll
7   Posted 20/07/2008 at 20:40:09

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Sadly, a lot of people, especially the young kid’s, think everton are a protestant club, they remember the walter smith year’s, and it did a lot of damage over here.
Philip Bunting
8   Posted 20/07/2008 at 21:04:37

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Jamie, what has a protestant club got to do with it?... I'm from Northern Ireland and take great pride in EFC... Catholic or Protestant? don't bring religion into football. I ran a bus to the Coleraine game this time last year and the showgrounds was packed, really good day. Plenty of support for EFC in Northern Ireland as well... ie NIESC (Northern Ireland Everton Supporters Club) biggest in the whole of Ireland, north and south.
Andy Crooks
9   Posted 20/07/2008 at 21:00:30

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Jamie, I?m amazed at your comment. I?ve been an Irish Evertonian for 40 years and to this day have never heard Everton referred to as a protestant club (or a catholic club for that matter). The damage caused during the Walter Smith years was entirely on the pitch and having no money played a part in this. Do you seriously think that having a former Celtic player as manager will make kids in Northern Ireland think that Everton are a Catholic club? Those days are over.
Jamie Carroll
10   Posted 20/07/2008 at 21:28:15

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Philip, in the Republic it does get scrutinised more. It?s a 50:50 thing historically, look it up in the History of Everton (or go to wikipedia); silly I know.
Steve Ely
11   Posted 20/07/2008 at 21:49:55

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Jami, what a stupid comment, thoes days of religious divides in football are long gone. Only in the likes of Glasgow do you get religious bigotry from both sides. There is no such thing as a Protestant club or a Catholic club here in Liverpool. We are Everton, the People's Club. Leave your religeous views in Ireland. And for the record, Everton were formed by a Methodist Sunday School at a church called St Domingo.
Tom Campbell
12   Posted 20/07/2008 at 21:54:00

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There's not many of us Irish Toffees but I do get a lot of praise for sticking with them as all my friends support the top 3 and Liverpool... I'm 15 and a member of the Irish Toffees and I'd love to see the blues come over for a few friendly games.

"Tiocfaidh ar la" ? Irish for "our day will come".
Paul Gallagher
13   Posted 20/07/2008 at 21:42:11

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Jamie with your rationale, surely that would mean that people most people in Ireland would have stopped supporting Man Utd because of Ferguson previously playing for Rangers or in the early 1990s with Souness manging Liverpool. Why? ? because it?s all about success on the field, if you win enough on it, no one cares who you where previously affiliated with. As we have discussed before, the Everton board couldn?t even capitalise on Liverpool being the city of European culture, why on earth would they promote themselves in Ireland?
Colm Kavanagh
14   Posted 20/07/2008 at 23:59:10

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Nice honest questions asked of the Club, in the initial post.

Thing is, the current custodians of Everton Football Club are so fucking incompetent that they don?t give a shit, or actually care, about the fanatical / latent support that exists in Ireland (north and south) for our dearly beloved Blues.

"And if you know you?re history.....!" ????

Pre-Munich Air Disaster - who was the best supported (English) club in Ireland?

What English club, to this very day, has had more Irish senior international players than any other club?

Ask a fucking gobshite of a Red persuasion, in Ireland, about his club?s connections to the game in Ireland and then, when correcting him, inform him of Everton?s long standing relationship with the game in Ireland, now going back three - YES, THREE - centuries (I?ll leave it to other sages to mention Val O?Connor!!!) - enlighten the twats that it is (or rather, was!) EVERTON who were the chosen team to follow in Ireland.

That?s why our side was so full of Irishmen back in the late 40s and into the 50s. That?s why England faced Ireland, on hallowed Goodison Park soil, back in 1949 in a game that obviously never EVER happened, as Ireland (shitty little "Eire") humbled the mighty England 2-0 (Con Martin, a penalty and Everton?s own Peter Farrell) to confirm England?s first ever defeat on home soil. The FA records may well point to the Mighty Magyars of Hungary defeating England 6-3 at the Empire Stadium, Wembley - but most Evertonians know this is not true!

I have spent many years, standing up like a twat at AGMs asking about Everton in Ireland, only to be patronised by that actor who is currently chairman. He loves playing to an audience.

As far as I can see, Ireland, as a market for Everton to realise some form of potential, remains untapped. This is despite Everton launching in tandem with the Irish Toffees Supporters Club an "Everton In Ireland" initiative. As a mark of respect to those involved with that on this side of the water I?ll refrain from saying what I honestly feel on the matter, and leave it at that..........

In the meantime, Everton continue their truly appalling and embarrassing email mailshots, asking Irish Evertonians would we like to buy a case of shit Chang lager for a certain price. Oddly enough, those resident outside of the UK cannot avail of such a wonderful offer.

Typical Everton!
Kevin Ratoath
15   Posted 21/07/2008 at 00:40:01

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Couldnt agree more with the comments re Everton and not visiting places where they should!
As one of thousands of Irish Toffees I too spend loads on getting to see the blues!
As we already know the marketing team at Goodison must be clueless by now, I would have the blues touring Ireland, Australia and Nigeria .....these are just a few places that have massive Everton support !
Not sure what in Chicago attracts Everton esp the way Soccer is treated in the US.
Seamus Murphy
16   Posted 21/07/2008 at 09:57:38

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Jamie Carroll - you are showing your ignorance mate.
On the original point there still actually is large support for Everton in Ireland. I travel to most home games and John Lennon Airport is always full of Irish Toffees on their way home after a game. We have played recently in Bray and Coleraine but could probably do a little more in Ireland to be honest. The crowd at the Bray game really showed me the level of support we have in Ireland - the game was only announced two days in advance and was on a weeknight but was still sold out with Bluenoses!

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