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Yesterday Moyes said he had money to spend on new players. Today he has told the Liverpool echo something totally different. Here's part of the quote taken from the Echo:
?We can?t hide the fact that we need new players. Everybody knows it. We have to get five or six players in before the season starts.?
When asked if he could see any imminent movement in the transfer market - Sporting Lisbon?s Joao Moutinho tops the wanted list - Moyes replied: ?Not at the moment, no. We are in a poor, poor situation regarding going forward.?
How has the situation changed in 24 hours?? I believe we really are doomed. There's also rumours flying about that his about to quit.
Shaun Nesbitt, Posted 31/07/2008 at 12:57:31
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That can only mean one thing ? that the money is still not in place which will enable him to tie up the Moutinho deal ? and the hitch in the AJ transfer probably makes the situation far worse.
Somehow I`m beginning to think that the resignation of Wyness is linked to a desperate cash situation at the club. That man`s resignation may not be the worse news we are going to get this week!
Who IS running Everton? Those shareholders who have called an EGM at Everton should have this as the first question on their agenda.
According to today`s Times, Keith Wyness walked out on Everton `because of concerns over the increasing influence of Philip Green and Robert Earl`.
Now I was no fan of the Big Man but as CEO he had a legal responsibility for the conduct of the business and if Blue Bill`s buddies were `exerting undue influence` he was right to take issue with the Chairman over it. Increasingly Blue Bill looks and sounds like the proverbial `dead man walking`and I can only see this latest `sensation` as another step nearer the trap door.
What a situation to be in just 16 days from the start of a new season. Moving up to the next level ? don`t make me laugh!
Did anyone else see the interview on Sky Sports last night with one of Everton’s shareholders? He said they where all puzzled with the resignation of Wyness and the timing of it. He also said, that, Everton have to sell players to buy new ones. Things aren’t looking good at all.
Moutinho, your having a laugh. I’ve said all along it’s phantom bid just like the Ramsey bid.
Moutinho, your having a laugh. I’ve said all along it’s phantom bid just like the Ramsey bid.
That can be read one of two ways - to my mind he meant that things are currently in a poor poor state with the squad we have, not that our financial stae is poor.
Read it as you will, I reckon we’ll buy a few players in the coming weeks - DM pretty much promised as much in recent interviews.
Read it as you will, I reckon we’ll buy a few players in the coming weeks - DM pretty much promised as much in recent interviews.
The odds on Moyes being the first Premiership Manager to leave this season have been slashed from 66-1 to 20-1 overnight.
Worrying?
Worrying?
When your manager is saying things like this you have deeply worried.
"We don?t have enough players to cope with what we have got just now. It?s a big concern.
?We can?t hide the fact that we need new players. Everybody knows it. We have to get five or six players in before the season starts.?
When asked if he could see any imminent movement in the transfer market - Sporting Lisbon?s Joao Moutinho tops the wanted list - Moyes replied: ?Not at the moment, no. We are in a poor, poor situation regarding going forward.?
"We don?t have enough players to cope with what we have got just now. It?s a big concern.
?We can?t hide the fact that we need new players. Everybody knows it. We have to get five or six players in before the season starts.?
When asked if he could see any imminent movement in the transfer market - Sporting Lisbon?s Joao Moutinho tops the wanted list - Moyes replied: ?Not at the moment, no. We are in a poor, poor situation regarding going forward.?
Guys Guys Guys! Its all bollocks!! WATCH the interview or read the article in FULL.
He was referring to being in a poor situation re: attacking options NOT in regards to transfers!
RELAX!
He was referring to being in a poor situation re: attacking options NOT in regards to transfers!
RELAX!
I was shitting myself too but I have just watched the interview and Moyes seemed up-beat and in one of his better moods.
When he refered to a poor situatiion going forward, he meant his attacking options.... Vic away in Biejing, Vaughan's fitness a doubt, AJ being sold and Faddy gone. He means he needs a Striker and attacking players.
It's just a shit spin that the Echo have put on it.... watch the interview to put your mind at rest mate. Its worked for me. It is everything quoted in the Echo, just a different order and comes accross a lot different when you watch it.
Plus, Ian Ross has confirmed by email that "the manager has SUBSTANTIAL funds at his disposal".
I think before Monday the first player will be in with more to follow.
That M?Bia looks a real goer as does Topal.
When he refered to a poor situatiion going forward, he meant his attacking options.... Vic away in Biejing, Vaughan's fitness a doubt, AJ being sold and Faddy gone. He means he needs a Striker and attacking players.
It's just a shit spin that the Echo have put on it.... watch the interview to put your mind at rest mate. Its worked for me. It is everything quoted in the Echo, just a different order and comes accross a lot different when you watch it.
Plus, Ian Ross has confirmed by email that "the manager has SUBSTANTIAL funds at his disposal".
I think before Monday the first player will be in with more to follow.
That M?Bia looks a real goer as does Topal.
I’m with Shez on this one, DM was merely stating that our current squad is thin on numbers.
I’ll bet anyone on here 20 quid we sign Moutinho before Monday.
I’ll bet anyone on here 20 quid we sign Moutinho before Monday.
I am sure their will be signings more likely on the return of the team from America, no CEO and no manager to finalise the deal, I think next week will be pivotal.
Could mean that there is hardly anyone left worth signing!!!
From the Times (not a paper thats inclined to make up bullshit)
Moyes is close to completing a deal to sign João Moutinho, the Portugal midfield player, but will have to pay Sporting Lisbon £16million to get his man and the manager is also interested in Darren Bent, the Tottenham Hotspur forward, and Diego Milito, the Real Zaragoza striker. Moyes is relying on the £13million that the club will receive from Fulham for Andy Johnson to kick-start his summer spending. ?There is money to spend,? Moyes said. ?I am not going to accept second best.?
Moyes is close to completing a deal to sign João Moutinho, the Portugal midfield player, but will have to pay Sporting Lisbon £16million to get his man and the manager is also interested in Darren Bent, the Tottenham Hotspur forward, and Diego Milito, the Real Zaragoza striker. Moyes is relying on the £13million that the club will receive from Fulham for Andy Johnson to kick-start his summer spending. ?There is money to spend,? Moyes said. ?I am not going to accept second best.?
James Marshall, I will take you up on that bet.
A cheque will do.
A cheque will do.
James, bullshit and the Times are the same thing, believe me I know, I have been the victim of their bullshit on many occasion.
OK Paul yer on!
@James Marshall. Moyes said that yesterday. But the tune has changed since. Even the Everton shareholder has said they have to sell to buy. Make what you want of it. But some of you lot need a reality check. I wish I could be as positive as some of you lot. I?m starting to hit the panic button.
Paul, are you a celebrity? Can you explain to me how you’ve been a ’victim’ of the Times bullshit on so many occasions?
James Marshall,
I?ll take some of that action, you must be fucking loaded lad.
I think M?Bia will be first in as he is cheap.
I?ll take some of that action, you must be fucking loaded lad.
I think M?Bia will be first in as he is cheap.
Shaun, the Everton shareholder knows no more than anyone else.
I know how many shares he has and it adds up to not a lot.
He was speculating like everyone else, continue to panic though.
I know how many shares he has and it adds up to not a lot.
He was speculating like everyone else, continue to panic though.
@James Marshall. Just googled Paul Niklas. Take my advice, if you loose the bet PAY THE MAN!
Here you go guys, a quote direct from a fan who met Moyes and the players on Tuesday :
"I was in the Globe last night and it was great to meet the players. Moyes was very positive about the coming season and said he was gonna sign his contract soon when I asked him. Looking forward to the game tonight. COYB!!!"
Deep breath everyone....
See OS for more details.
"I was in the Globe last night and it was great to meet the players. Moyes was very positive about the coming season and said he was gonna sign his contract soon when I asked him. Looking forward to the game tonight. COYB!!!"
Deep breath everyone....
See OS for more details.
Paul Niklas = MD of Formica, the worktop people?!
Thats one of them James.
Formica is a bit bigger than just W/tops by the way.
Formica is a bit bigger than just W/tops by the way.
Ian Ross has just replied to me. Doesn't exactly fill you with confidence does it? Half arsed reply, asures me Moyes stays but says nothing about new players.
See below.............
See below.............
moyes is not on the verge of leaving us.......as for new players - you?d have to ask mr moyes
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From: Ben Chambers
Sent: 31 July 2008 13:16
To: Ian Ross
Cc: ian.ross@everton.com
Subject: EFC
Dear Mr Ross,
Can you please give me some assurances about what is going on with our club?
It appears to a lot of fans that Moyes is on the brink of leaving us due to no one being signed and every other team who can challenge us has now over taken us with thier buy?s.
This is a dire situation for Everton fans and my season ticket was not cheap.
Is there any sign what so ever that new players will be here before the week is out? Moyes is our biggest asset, when?s he signing his new deal??
Yours in anticipation,
Ben Chambers
I negotiate everyday as part of my job. Moyes is playing a great hand. Would you rather the Club pay more than they have to for players by implying that they have loads of cash to splash?
The levels of hysteria were already ridiculous before Bully?s resignation (love the name of his son "Buster"); now they are just insane.
The levels of hysteria were already ridiculous before Bully?s resignation (love the name of his son "Buster"); now they are just insane.
I know Paul, the solution for every surface!
Primarily known for worktops though eh, I mean if you mention formica to anyone they’ll say its the worktop stuff. So, you’re the MD? Do you own Kwik Save as well?
Primarily known for worktops though eh, I mean if you mention formica to anyone they’ll say its the worktop stuff. So, you’re the MD? Do you own Kwik Save as well?
Cover blown, now what am I going to do?
Go on holiday, that's it; I'm off tomorrow.
No ToffeeWeb, and no more questions James, albeit you can learn a whole lot more when you meet me at the match to pay me my money.
Best wishes
Paul.
Go on holiday, that's it; I'm off tomorrow.
No ToffeeWeb, and no more questions James, albeit you can learn a whole lot more when you meet me at the match to pay me my money.
Best wishes
Paul.
I look forward to it Paul, and if you anyone that can do me a decent kitchen, let me know.
Happy holidays.
Happy holidays.
Yes yes yes! I Would love to gamble 20 quids that we would start the season in WORSE state then currently!
I’m amazed how selective some of the doom mongers are on this site. You take a quote that could be interpreted in a number of ways, put your own spin on it to suit your argument, and off you go. All the while ignoring the contrary information that is also coming in from various sources (e.g. that a fee has been agreed for Moutinho).
The ’poor situation going forward’ almost certainly refers to the fact that with Vaughan having been sent off we may be down to one fit and available striker with 1st team experience.
The ’poor situation going forward’ almost certainly refers to the fact that with Vaughan having been sent off we may be down to one fit and available striker with 1st team experience.
Stop worrying. BK and Moyes have been talking on the phone twice a day.
This is my "OPINION" on it,
1) Moyes has said repeatedly that we have money to spend.
2) Speculative reports suggest that a 17m euro fee has been agreed with Sporting for Montinho, seems realistic if you believe the 10% clause in his contract for rejected bids (incredibly shrewd by EFC if true)
3) The Johnson saga rumbles on, rumours again persit that the club will not officially announce the Sporting deal until Johnsons move is concluded.
4) Moyes wants 5/6 players
My Guess is there is a substantial amount of money available, but the club want to know if the money for Johnson is available prior to concluding with Mountinho, the reason being that they openly accept that we need 5/6 players. If we have Johnsons money then we can get Mountinho + others, without it we may have lose Montinho for the sake of bringing in more numbers for lower values.
I suspect we will here on both matters fairly quickly one after the other.
1) Moyes has said repeatedly that we have money to spend.
2) Speculative reports suggest that a 17m euro fee has been agreed with Sporting for Montinho, seems realistic if you believe the 10% clause in his contract for rejected bids (incredibly shrewd by EFC if true)
3) The Johnson saga rumbles on, rumours again persit that the club will not officially announce the Sporting deal until Johnsons move is concluded.
4) Moyes wants 5/6 players
My Guess is there is a substantial amount of money available, but the club want to know if the money for Johnson is available prior to concluding with Mountinho, the reason being that they openly accept that we need 5/6 players. If we have Johnsons money then we can get Mountinho + others, without it we may have lose Montinho for the sake of bringing in more numbers for lower values.
I suspect we will here on both matters fairly quickly one after the other.
Don’t be silly Baloo its 15 times a day!
James,
My nephew is engaged to the daughter of the ’Modern Homes’ kitchen people in Cumbria - honestly.
Top class kitchens which he fits all over Europe.
I could get him to give you a qoute if you want, or check and see if they have a website.
Paul Niklas - buy the club and put us out of our misery mate.
My nephew is engaged to the daughter of the ’Modern Homes’ kitchen people in Cumbria - honestly.
Top class kitchens which he fits all over Europe.
I could get him to give you a qoute if you want, or check and see if they have a website.
Paul Niklas - buy the club and put us out of our misery mate.
A quote even.
James.
Is that the same newspaper that published the ( tea-stained ) " Hitler Diaries " ?
Paul N,
me mum was always a fan of " Fablon "- she couldn’t afford " Formica ". Perhaps that’s why I’m an Evertonian.
Is that the same newspaper that published the ( tea-stained ) " Hitler Diaries " ?
Paul N,
me mum was always a fan of " Fablon "- she couldn’t afford " Formica ". Perhaps that’s why I’m an Evertonian.
Has anyone else noticed how shit we have been since Steve Round joined us.
You cant fucking win on this website anymore - no matter what you say, some smartarse always has a come-back.
If you cockheads want to read The Sun then fine, by comparison to most of the rags out there, The Times can hold its head up as a decent paper. None of them tell the truth or get things right all the time, but at least the Times can be (mostly) trusted.
Jeez, I keep a tight lid on myself the vast majority of the time, but today I?ve had it up to here.
Everything you say is twisted by someone, or taken 100% literally and picked apart. Bag-o-shite.
And relax.
If you cockheads want to read The Sun then fine, by comparison to most of the rags out there, The Times can hold its head up as a decent paper. None of them tell the truth or get things right all the time, but at least the Times can be (mostly) trusted.
Jeez, I keep a tight lid on myself the vast majority of the time, but today I?ve had it up to here.
Everything you say is twisted by someone, or taken 100% literally and picked apart. Bag-o-shite.
And relax.
James - first new signing to be announced in the next 24 hours according to Alan Myers on Sky Sports News!
James,
The Times is The Sun without the tits...
The Times is The Sun without the tits...
He was talking about the forwards and the newspapers have spun it to mean transfers!!
Now, now James, calm down my old son. Everything?s fine at Everton. We're going to sign Moutinho by Monday (according to various websites). We have the money to buy 5 or 6 players in the space of 2 weeks. They?ll all be here before the Blackburn game!! Hope that makes you feel better!!!
Sorry, threw toys out of pram momentarily there!
I am now much calmer and looking forward to all our new signings in the coming days/weeks.
The Times really isn't The Sun without the tits.
I am now much calmer and looking forward to all our new signings in the coming days/weeks.
The Times really isn't The Sun without the tits.
I'm sure we're going to hear an awful lot of rumour and conjecture about big Keith's departure. So I thought I'd take my chance early to throw in what I've learnt. It might be true or compete bollocks but Moyes should have signed his contract 2 weeks ago and we should have known about Kirkby in 48hrs (2 weeks ago!!)
First of all, Wyness has bought up substantial plots of land in Kirkby, including shops, which were due to be bulldozed for DK. So he was/is set for a big pay day if it goes ahead. On top of his bonus for securing the move.
Also, Moyes gave him a list of targets, including Bentley, that he wanted him to follow up. Up until this week he had only met 1 agent to discuss a deal, this being Moutinho's. The lends credence to the rumour of the argument Moyes and Wyness had last week over new players.
Right, line up to shoot me down for posting what I've heard....
I felt sorry for Moyes - 5 years of team building are on the brink of collapse. All his hard work is being wasted, it was clear his disappointment and discontent, instead of looking up and forward he has his hands tied and has to blood promising youngsters just to fill up the numbers. We cant even fill the bench with 18 fit squad players never mind with quality.
How are we supposed to compete on 4 fronts with 13 first team players and 3 youngsters?!? There are only 3 weeks to the start of the season we look desperate on and off the pitch, how can we always fuck the things up is something I will never understand,grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr
How are we supposed to compete on 4 fronts with 13 first team players and 3 youngsters?!? There are only 3 weeks to the start of the season we look desperate on and off the pitch, how can we always fuck the things up is something I will never understand,grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr
Andy,
What you’ve heard is either true or potentially, libellouos. More importantly its not what you’ve been told but who told you.
What you’ve heard is either true or potentially, libellouos. More importantly its not what you’ve been told but who told you.
Why is our friendly local media ? The voice of the true majority? ? loaded with yes men when it comes to Everton?
Mark O'Brien, as usual, toes the party line when saying that the departure of Wyness is not what we wanted.
Everyone I've spoken to is delighted.
Good riddance, Kenwright next and Ross followed by every other moron involved in turning OUR club into a marginilised laughing stock.
Forget new signings, forget the FA Cup, the Carling Cup, the Premier League, the Uefa Cup, Champions League.... Moyes is going, he is flying home with the team then he is leaving us. Sorry, it's the truth.
I just want to go to sleep and wake up, put on Sky Sports News and see the headline "Moyes signs new contract" followed by "Johnson signs for Fulham" followed by "Moutinho signs for Everton" followed by "Destination Kirkby called in". Then I’ll be happy.
I am with Vinny Bird: Moyes will be gone once they return from America. Fucking BK out!
Andy Wright, back up what you?ve said with some evidence. Same with Vinny. To the editorial tem on this site I would say some of what is being said is unsubstansiated nonsense that is damaging to the club.
I?m one of those who has heard nothing and simply wonder where all the rumours come from.
However, I do know
(1) We got £6M for McFadden
(2) We should get in the region of £10/£12M for Johnson. Those are facts. Forget about DK, I can?t see whether or not that gets called in affects money for transfers.
There must be some profit for our 5th position in the Premier League last year. Has that just disappeared into thin air?
I think we must just wait and see. Best thing is to go on holiday, listen to no news, buy no UK newspapers and then find out what has happened when one gets home.
Likely to live longer that way!
However, I do know
(1) We got £6M for McFadden
(2) We should get in the region of £10/£12M for Johnson. Those are facts. Forget about DK, I can?t see whether or not that gets called in affects money for transfers.
There must be some profit for our 5th position in the Premier League last year. Has that just disappeared into thin air?
I think we must just wait and see. Best thing is to go on holiday, listen to no news, buy no UK newspapers and then find out what has happened when one gets home.
Likely to live longer that way!
Does anyone really believe any player in the right frame of mind will want to join Everton after reading the papers, seeing the TV this week? Moyes doesn't even know where we?re going, let alone the fans.
It's about time the club at least slammed the current articles if they're bogus and gave us an official - ALL is RIGHT!
It's about time the club at least slammed the current articles if they're bogus and gave us an official - ALL is RIGHT!
Moyes is full of bullshit............ The AJ transfer says it all. Johnson did not want to leave and restated that countless times. The club or rather Moyes pissed him about so much I suspect AJ thought bollocks to it. He would not have gone unless Moyes had wanted him out for the cash.......that is fair enough but to turn around and say he had to sell him because AJ wanted to move is just a load of crap. Moyes has sold the players and has not got replacements in.....If anyone is responsible for the dire size and quality of the squad it is Moyes and it is about time he started to take some responsibility. Oh and if he dosent want to sign the new contract then he can fuck off as well....he hasn’t done too badly out of Everton Football Club to date. I think he wants out - he knows we are skint and this fiasco is his ticket out.
It looks more and more likely Moyes will quit once back in the UK.... that's the rumour going around on all the forums at the moment. Not sure who to believe but I?m sure the rumour has got back to the boys in the squad, which is worrying me to death....!!!
Just caught skysports news reporting that David Moyes said to Everton TV that "we are in a poor poor situation to take the club forward" i have watched the interview on Everton TV and at no point does he say that! He does say ?We can?t hide the fact that we need new players. Everybody knows it. We have to get five or six players in before the season starts.? Where they get this rubbish i really dont know. Moyes never talks about other clubs players so why would he say that we cant afford Moutinho?
Just my thoughts, which are similar to those of a few people on this site, in regards to the Johnson/Moutinho saga(s).
It’s widely believed the Moutinho transfer is awaiting money from the Johnson sale. I think Moyes has a few squad players lined up for cheap but with the Johnson sale, for example, saying he was sold for £12,000,000 and we bought Moutinho for £18,000,000 (both made-up fees), this means the outlay for Moutinho is £6,000,000. With the rest of the budget we could purchase the squad players we need.
It’s widely believed the Moutinho transfer is awaiting money from the Johnson sale. I think Moyes has a few squad players lined up for cheap but with the Johnson sale, for example, saying he was sold for £12,000,000 and we bought Moutinho for £18,000,000 (both made-up fees), this means the outlay for Moutinho is £6,000,000. With the rest of the budget we could purchase the squad players we need.
I actually couldn’t really blame Moyes if he walks away, which is a bit different.
&Dave Whitwell - Totally agree with you mate - most sense I’ve seen on here for a cuple of days!
Times = The Sun without Tits has to be the TW quote of the day!
IMYT
Times = The Sun without Tits has to be the TW quote of the day!
IMYT
That quote is completely out of context. The ?poor, poor situation with regards to going forward? was Moyes? view on our front line after the Chicago Fire game. He was saying with Yak/Pienaar not playing any football and the youngsters being blooded too early we werent creating much. I wish people would stop wetting themselves over all this bollocks.
No wonder the fat useless bastards wanted my season ticket money from me in april.
Id simply appreciate it if the club could for once tell me the truth, its that simple
let us know were we stand
Id simply appreciate it if the club could for once tell me the truth, its that simple
let us know were we stand
20-1 for first manager to be sacked / leave ? has to be worth £5.
Kenright has to come out and say something here - rumours have it that Phillip Green has pulled his cash out now - We are so in the shit - and make no mistake if we loose or draw some of them first few games we are expected to win then we will have another last day Wimbledon / Coventry on our hands. Challenging the big Four ? With the fuckers that run our club ( moyes excluded ) at this moment in time I would settle for fourth from bottom.
Just for once I would like to see something positive from Everton !!!!
Kenright has to come out and say something here - rumours have it that Phillip Green has pulled his cash out now - We are so in the shit - and make no mistake if we loose or draw some of them first few games we are expected to win then we will have another last day Wimbledon / Coventry on our hands. Challenging the big Four ? With the fuckers that run our club ( moyes excluded ) at this moment in time I would settle for fourth from bottom.
Just for once I would like to see something positive from Everton !!!!
Isn’t it funny how a certain group of people who write into toffeeweb, are always slagging of people who quote any negative rumours flying around concerning the club, telling us it’s bollocks etc. But then tell us that the rumours (positive ) concerning the club are all true?
When the fuck are we gonna hear anything about Kirkby? I heard a rumour it was getting called in, then I heard another rumour saying it wasn’t getting called in. Then 2 weeks ago some fella said "in the next 48 hours". Then we don’t sign anyone but Ian Ross says "don’t worry, transfer funds aren’t linked to Kirkby." Then another guy on betfair says "transfer funds are linked to Kirkby". Then the Daily Post said decision on Kirkby next week. Then Wyness resigns but the club deny it has anything to do with Kirkby. Then Moyes says he’s gonna sign some players, then he says he hasn’t got any money so someone said he’s leaving.
The cold facts are that absolutely no-one has been signed and we still don’t know anything more than when I was at the Newcastle game, last game of the season.
Does anyone honestly have any fucking clue about what the fuck is going on at Everton?
The cold facts are that absolutely no-one has been signed and we still don’t know anything more than when I was at the Newcastle game, last game of the season.
Does anyone honestly have any fucking clue about what the fuck is going on at Everton?
What Shite are half you people takin? Every summer theres a conspiracy story going on around these forums going on as if the club was about to fall apart.
Just yesterday Moyes said he was agreeing to a new contract, reportedly on £60k a week and just yesterday the club said there was substantial money available for players. Even before on Sky Sports they were reporting that we were preparing a second bid for Mountinho.
Everything isn't always up at Everton, were in a better position than most clubs and the majority of the squad that will start next season is the squad that finished 5th and I find it highly unlikely that we won't add to it.. so why are people talking about relegation?
If there was no money then Moyes wouldn't have been chasing the likes of Mountinho this summer... and even if Moyes hasn't got as much as first thought he?s managed to bring in the likes of Cahill, Arteta & Pienaar for under £3 mil
Moyes?s comments last nite were probably out of frustration because of the result and were not playing as well as we should be so far this summer... I've seen the interview and it sounds like he's frustrated about the lack of competition and players not giving enough in games more than anything else. Also I don't believe Neville would have signed a new deal & Steve round would have been brought in if Moyes is about to walk? Makes no sense?
Just be patient, this time last year everyone was paniking and we pulled the Yak out the bag.. by the Blackburn game everything will be a lot me clearer and then this time next season we can all start some conspiracy tales!
Just yesterday Moyes said he was agreeing to a new contract, reportedly on £60k a week and just yesterday the club said there was substantial money available for players. Even before on Sky Sports they were reporting that we were preparing a second bid for Mountinho.
Everything isn't always up at Everton, were in a better position than most clubs and the majority of the squad that will start next season is the squad that finished 5th and I find it highly unlikely that we won't add to it.. so why are people talking about relegation?
If there was no money then Moyes wouldn't have been chasing the likes of Mountinho this summer... and even if Moyes hasn't got as much as first thought he?s managed to bring in the likes of Cahill, Arteta & Pienaar for under £3 mil
Moyes?s comments last nite were probably out of frustration because of the result and were not playing as well as we should be so far this summer... I've seen the interview and it sounds like he's frustrated about the lack of competition and players not giving enough in games more than anything else. Also I don't believe Neville would have signed a new deal & Steve round would have been brought in if Moyes is about to walk? Makes no sense?
Just be patient, this time last year everyone was paniking and we pulled the Yak out the bag.. by the Blackburn game everything will be a lot me clearer and then this time next season we can all start some conspiracy tales!
Just be patient. This time last year, everyone was paniking and we pulled the Yak out the bag.. by the Blackburn game everything will be a lot more clearer and then this time next season we can all start some new conspiracy tales!
What a shame for Moyes, all the hard work he?s put in over the last few seasons looks like its going down the shitter. If he goes then there?s only one person to blame, BK, why the fuck is he hanging on to the club when he knows that apart from being king bullshitter, he?s got fuck all else to offer the club?
James Marshall
Il have that bet with you
Il have that bet with you
Can I just say like some others I have watched the interview with Moyes on the OS and I can?t see any reference to the poor poor state of the transfer situation, can anyone enlighten me?
Also there is some speculation developing that the man behind the supposed meltdown is Sir Phillip Green. On this note I would just like to clarify that Sir Phillip Green is not a director of Everton FC and therefore has no official influences over the finances of the club and cannot pull the plug on any finances or transfers. Secondly the directors of the club listed on the 2007 account own around 67% of the shares, we know another 20% must be owned be the minority shareholders as they have put the petition together for the EGM, therefore is Sir Phillip Green owns any shares in EFC then it can only be 13% max which doesn?t really give him any major influence as a shareholder. If he has lent any money to the club in any other capacity then I would imagine it cannot simply be racalled at any time.
Lastly it states in his interview with the BBC that he has no interest in investing in a football club despite having the opportunity in the last 10 years. In fact he is just a friend of Kenwrights that advises him when Bill asks.
Take what you want from that, but to me it means that there is no truth what so ever in Sir Phil Green withdrawing funding from the club, hence swiping our transfer budget.
I don?t know for certain and have no contacts or insider information but it makes sense to me that the club would be announcing agreements to us via the official site when the know the conclusion of the Johnson sage and that?s why we are all still waiting.
Also there is some speculation developing that the man behind the supposed meltdown is Sir Phillip Green. On this note I would just like to clarify that Sir Phillip Green is not a director of Everton FC and therefore has no official influences over the finances of the club and cannot pull the plug on any finances or transfers. Secondly the directors of the club listed on the 2007 account own around 67% of the shares, we know another 20% must be owned be the minority shareholders as they have put the petition together for the EGM, therefore is Sir Phillip Green owns any shares in EFC then it can only be 13% max which doesn?t really give him any major influence as a shareholder. If he has lent any money to the club in any other capacity then I would imagine it cannot simply be racalled at any time.
Lastly it states in his interview with the BBC that he has no interest in investing in a football club despite having the opportunity in the last 10 years. In fact he is just a friend of Kenwrights that advises him when Bill asks.
Take what you want from that, but to me it means that there is no truth what so ever in Sir Phil Green withdrawing funding from the club, hence swiping our transfer budget.
I don?t know for certain and have no contacts or insider information but it makes sense to me that the club would be announcing agreements to us via the official site when the know the conclusion of the Johnson sage and that?s why we are all still waiting.
Coral have stopped taking bets on Moyes - watch this space?
Can I just clarify that all the doom and gloom today has been born from a poorly constructed article in the Echo - in which moyes? interview was completely turned upside down to make a story and scare the death out of Evertonians - and who wrote it? yes a RS fan... one who gave up his season ticket at Anfield to write about our club.... I sense a bit of sadistic pleasure in his warblings.. and all at our expense.
Dave,
its not the story in Echo, it?s the interview with DM on Everton TV most of us are referring to ? its clear from his body language that he is frustrated from the lack of funds and transfers
Alan Flynn, you know that you are complete idiot, dont you?
its not the story in Echo, it?s the interview with DM on Everton TV most of us are referring to ? its clear from his body language that he is frustrated from the lack of funds and transfers
Alan Flynn, you know that you are complete idiot, dont you?
If nothing changes and stays the same between now and the week prior to EPL kick-off, thats when we should all start to panic !!!!!!
Until then we should all just get a grip.
Until then we should all just get a grip.
Just to clarify:
If Sir Philip Green or anyone else for that matter has loaned money to Everton Football Club for any reason then by law that loan and its terms for repayment must be entered in the clubs annual return, any of you who wish to see the clubs full accounts can pay £18 to Companies House and get all of the information you require. Don?t waste your money because you can bet your life that the local press already have and if that was the case they would have published the information.
If Sir Philip Green or anyone else for that matter has loaned money to Everton Football Club for any reason then by law that loan and its terms for repayment must be entered in the clubs annual return, any of you who wish to see the clubs full accounts can pay £18 to Companies House and get all of the information you require. Don?t waste your money because you can bet your life that the local press already have and if that was the case they would have published the information.
I agree with Stephen Carson and i believe things will start happening on the transfer front when the squad gets back from america, too many people are clutching at straws and putting a negative spin on reports that have anything to do with Everton at the moment, i mean talk about getting there wires crossed over Moyesy’s interview! he clearly states that the squad at this present time is in a poor, poor situation going forward, meaning he hasnt got alot of attacking options within the squad at the minute and that the squad as an hole arent playing well enough and that the club needs 5 to 6 new players to add competition for places and get every one back on there toes again because at the minute he cant drop people who are basically playing shit at the moment! i mean why would Moyesy come out the other day and say there was funds available if there really wasnt?!, like i said the other day Moyesy wouldnt keep on stating that we need 5 to 6 new players if there wasnt any money!! how come in the space of 24 hours people are saying were potless, as any one from the club, apart from that nobody of a shareholder actually come out and said were basically skint?!, no i didnt think so!! hows that saying go again....................... In Moyes We Trust!!!!!
I take it our Paul Niklas is boarding the plane on holiday? Done some googling and found a The Times article on "obnoxious business traveller ". Rock on!
Paul Niklas... I’ve been trying to contact you for a bloody age. On the assumption that you haven’e gone on holidays, get in touch for a chinwag. My mobile hasn’t changed 07730 700006 and my email is billandrew@hotmail.co.uk
Friggin? hell... from Fans Disjointed to Friends Reunited!
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