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Everton v PSV Eindhoven
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Rodwell and Gosling start:
Howard
Neville
Jagielka
Yobo
Baines
Osman
Rodwell
Gosling
Arteta
Pienaar
Yakubu
Subs: Turner
Valente
Baxter
Lescott
Jutkiewicz
Agard
Wallace
Kissock
Michael Kenrick, Posted 09/08/2008 at 17:12:33
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Just Evertin tv i think Eric. Looks like Rodwell and Gosling could well start next week at this rate.
Worth a thought that if we’d just signed a couple of highly regarded promising teenagers from a top 5 club in Spain we’d be elated. The point of a youth system and good scouting is to save cash so let’s not see promotion of these kids as second best. They’re there on merit.
Worth a thought that if we’d just signed a couple of highly regarded promising teenagers from a top 5 club in Spain we’d be elated. The point of a youth system and good scouting is to save cash so let’s not see promotion of these kids as second best. They’re there on merit.
Should be on Sopcast channel 57558, but channel is offline for some reason. Will keep checking.
If you want to watch footy online bookmark http://www.fsiteam.info
If a game is being televised they will have it listed.
If you want to watch footy online bookmark http://www.fsiteam.info
If a game is being televised they will have it listed.
I’m trying to get the game via http://livefooty.doctor-serv.com/
Its usually a good source, I had the 1st 10mins but its now offline for some reason
Its usually a good source, I had the 1st 10mins but its now offline for some reason
Paul, in that first ten minutes that you managed to watch, did we play well? I need information and I refuse to give money to sky or setanta!
Where’s mike coates when you need him!
Why isn’t Vaughan in the starting XI or on the bench for the last warm-up game before the season starts? Is he suspended or is DM still fuming at him over the red card ? Now is not the time (with our threadbare squad) to be punishing players, IMHO.
Yep
same 4 me, managed the first few mins then gone!!
The wife is on a hen night and my lad is watching a dvd so i thought i would finally get some "me time"
bollocks
same 4 me, managed the first few mins then gone!!
The wife is on a hen night and my lad is watching a dvd so i thought i would finally get some "me time"
bollocks
It seemed to be a good start, pienaar picked up a lose ball, all that was left to do was ’feed the yak’...........then I lost the connection. Needless to say how many times I swore in the next few seconds!
Back on!!!
and 1 down
Urgghh!
and 1 down
Urgghh!
PSV have scored. The bastards!
Nick Marsh, I wouldn’t bother giving Setanta any money. Unless it’s a clear blue sky, the signal is non-existent. At least for me, anyone else having these problems?
We’re back online....http://livefooty.doctor-serv.com/sat9.8/Everton_PSV.html
Adam
totally agree, the signal and picture is very poor
have no idea why
got rid of setanta in May and wont be off back
totally agree, the signal and picture is very poor
have no idea why
got rid of setanta in May and wont be off back
Another decent stream to watch the game. Not a great picture quality, but stable.
http://www.justin.tv/daave
http://www.justin.tv/daave
Sopcast 57558 is back up, it is the feed that footydoctor is piggybacking so is slightly better, not much tho.
LoL.. Sorry aint been around. Missus back from Beijing..
Yeah, Sopcast channel died but watching it fine on - http://www.justin.tv/daave1
Sitting on couch watching it so haven’t been updating and typing.. My bad :(
Yeah, Sopcast channel died but watching it fine on - http://www.justin.tv/daave1
Sitting on couch watching it so haven’t been updating and typing.. My bad :(
I’ve got Setanta and only just realised the gane is on!! Oh well, at least can watch second half!
Stoopid Setanta here not showing til 2moro morning :( Well, later this morning.
I’m in Chicago watching it on espn360.com.
Anyone any news about vaughan - he cant be suspended for the friendly - so assume he must be injured again.
Once again no news !!
Once again no news !!
Opinions on Rodwell so far today?
Damn hope Peanuts is ok :(
Currently getting treatment.
Currently getting treatment.
Looks OK Mike
Rodwell looks ok. I doubt if he can play a major part this season. Everton desparately need a midfielder and a striker. Like Joe said: Everton lack the extra threat from midfield when Cahill plays. I just hope Tim will be back soon and stays fit.
Nuno and Lukas coming on. Baines and Rodwell off
Nuno and Lukas coming on. Baines and Rodwell off
Pienaar rested.. Baxter on :) Looking fwd to this.
Baxter on for Peanut, hope nothing wrong with Peanut after that tackle
With the big kick-off next week, how do we look today? (cannot get the stream)
After forgetting it was on and missing first half now completely lost the setanta signal!!!! Never happened to me at all last season, now the first game i try to watch and i can’t.
Other than losing?
A little hollow in midfield.
Sloppy in defence a lil, leaving openings.
Arteta had a few glimmers in the first half.. Bout it.
Oh, and right now he’s had a nice run..
Just the resulting header from his chip wasn’t good enough.
A little hollow in midfield.
Sloppy in defence a lil, leaving openings.
Arteta had a few glimmers in the first half.. Bout it.
Oh, and right now he’s had a nice run..
Just the resulting header from his chip wasn’t good enough.
Nice run down the left and attack by Yak.
Pity deflected.. Very close to far post.
Pity deflected.. Very close to far post.
I just hope Pienaar, Arteta and Yakubu don’t get injured. Who would come in? Jagielka playing in midfield now and he’s absolutely awful. I’m really worried.
Nice comment from Joe about Yak. Unlike most of the top goalscorers he doesn’t take many penalties or freekicks. Pure striker
Interesting..
Neville off.. Wallace makes a show.
Neville off.. Wallace makes a show.
Jags came out of nowhere and make a decent strike.. Pity right of the right post :(
Yobo GOT us a penalty :)
Arteta steps up.
Arteta steps up.
Penalty! Everton 1 PSV 1.
Arteta scores after Wuytens fouled Yobo.
Arteta scores after Wuytens fouled Yobo.
STOOPID Sopcast froze on penalty :(
Didn’t see it, but loaded Justin tv, its now 1-1.
Didn’t see it, but loaded Justin tv, its now 1-1.
justin tv keeps flicking off to some crap.
PSV had a nice strike. Unsure if it went in or not, but didn’t count.
1-1.
Game over.
Reminds me of drawing our Werder Bremen game 2-2 prior to start of last season..
PSV had a nice strike. Unsure if it went in or not, but didn’t count.
1-1.
Game over.
Reminds me of drawing our Werder Bremen game 2-2 prior to start of last season..
Baines looked very poor for their goal. There is absolutely no way that guy should have got a shot off. Anyway, nice one Mikel.
Joey’s trick is amazing. Arteta looked fine for the 90 too, which is very positive.
Hi, this is my first post, I have been an avid reader of this great site. I have always been an optimist but with all the pre-season shenanigans and today's woeful performance showing the kids are not ready to step up, we are in for a real struggle this season. Also Moyes's refusal to try 4-4-2 when we had the attacking strength of a toothless tiger was beyond me. And if there were any lingering thoughts that Leon Osman is worth a 1st team place they are certainly dispelled. Let's hope for some proverbial rabbits outta the hat!
Osman is so shite is painful to watch. Dunno if I can watch him getting thrown around for much longer. Hes a boy playing a mans game.
I think the words long hard season are going to be spoken more than frequently over the coming months..
Couldn't agree more Jim. The way he was brushed off for their goal showed the strength of a 90-yr old granny
Everton look like ateam that is going to get steam rollered whenever we play a physically strong side..
We have so many small lightweight players.
Look at our left side with Baines and Pienaar..Then we have Osman and Arteta..
I really despair when we play against the powers of the Top Four..Imagine us against Gerrard?. Or Essien and Lampard?. Or the athletes of Man United and Arsenal?.
I dont normally like being a doom bearer but I am really struggling to see how we are going to have anything but a difficult time this season we are just so un-equipped to deal with the 100 mile an hour pace of the Premier League..Worrying times.
We have so many small lightweight players.
Look at our left side with Baines and Pienaar..Then we have Osman and Arteta..
I really despair when we play against the powers of the Top Four..Imagine us against Gerrard?. Or Essien and Lampard?. Or the athletes of Man United and Arsenal?.
I dont normally like being a doom bearer but I am really struggling to see how we are going to have anything but a difficult time this season we are just so un-equipped to deal with the 100 mile an hour pace of the Premier League..Worrying times.
Hmmm... lots of food for thought there.
Not sure if i agree with Joe?s commentary that ?you can only judge Everton when they have their best team out?.
In fairness, how many times a season does that actually happen and if this was all of our fit players then where the hell are the goals going to come from?
As good as he is we all know that the Yak will blow hot and cold at some point this season but what incentive has he got to stop him ?going AWOL? if he knows he?s a nailed on pick every week?
Finances being what they are it wont be easy, but even if we need to gamble on players from the championship this lot need some competition for the shirt. And fast.
Not sure if i agree with Joe?s commentary that ?you can only judge Everton when they have their best team out?.
In fairness, how many times a season does that actually happen and if this was all of our fit players then where the hell are the goals going to come from?
As good as he is we all know that the Yak will blow hot and cold at some point this season but what incentive has he got to stop him ?going AWOL? if he knows he?s a nailed on pick every week?
Finances being what they are it wont be easy, but even if we need to gamble on players from the championship this lot need some competition for the shirt. And fast.
No Kissock? I was hoping he’d get a game. Ah well...
Moyes’ expressions said it all really.
Regardless of who we sign next week we wont break into the top four so lets not get to down eh.
Moyes’ expressions said it all really.
Regardless of who we sign next week we wont break into the top four so lets not get to down eh.
Same as the last couple seasons no physical presence in midfield. How the hell are we in a position were we may have to play Young Jack Rodwell next week. We need an athlete for centre mid ASAP. I thought the YAK was our best player today, even though he played most as a lone striker.
Had a fabulous day. Sat in the paddock with my daughter and both the chairman and manager came up to us and offered autographs and had a picture taken. I asked Mr Kenwright if he was going to be funding some new players and Davey said ?I hope so? and smiled. As he walked away, Bill said ?You are all going to be surprised by next Saturday?. Perfect gantleman!
Betty. Was the smile ironic?
After being away for a while I really hoped I would come back to news of a few players. Instead AJ went and even the none playing staff are quiting (athough that might be good news in Wyness’ case).
Three weeks of truying to be positive and hoping or the best down the pan
After being away for a while I really hoped I would come back to news of a few players. Instead AJ went and even the none playing staff are quiting (athough that might be good news in Wyness’ case).
Three weeks of truying to be positive and hoping or the best down the pan
That was an awful performance, we had nothing going forward, our link-up play was almost non-existent, couldn’t keep the ball for more than five seconds without giving it away, there was no quality in center midfield,our whole team is ultra-lightweight, and those kids don’t look ready to me, this is going to be one very difficult season. The only good point was that Arteta’s delivery has improved.
Christ if the team got any yonger we?d be playing in tops without the Chang logo. lol..
Betty did BK say he was off to see the Wizard of Oz and get himself a brain?
EFC 1 Dutch Champions 1
The kids did that - some credit perhaps?
The kids did that - some credit perhaps?
Bill Kenwright IS the Wizard of Oz. And I?m afraid Dorothy Moyes yanked his curtain a good few weeks ago.
The Wizard of Oz is Tim Cahill, and don?t you forget it.
Can only agree with Jimmy and El-ray really. A pretty poor performance with the only bonus being Arteta.
Tony Part, you?re right. So,we are about to break the club transfer record on another lightweight (class player, but not what we need)?
We need a quality central midfielder, Moutinho is a quality midfielder. What more do you want? It’s not like he’s being bought to play in Carsley’s position, he’s coming here give us a more rounded midfielder in the middle of the park.
Your attacking midfielder doesn’t have to be tall despite what people think, Fabregas and Scholes prove that. If your good enough height isn’t an issue.
There’s no doubting we need a bigger DEFENSIVE MIDFIELDER. Someone with height who has the physical ability to mix it. From what I’ve read and heard where currently looking at Stephane Mbia who fits the bill, so really Moyes is looking at the right areas and knows what needs to be added.
People give the likes of Pienaar, Osman and Arteta a hard time on here desite the fact that there players who like to play football on the deck and are always positive. I remember going to games where we had dogs of war in midfield and to be honest the football was terrible, I think where lucky that we actually have players who want to entertain and give value for money. Just my opinion like.
It’s all about getting the right balance really, players like Pienaar, Arteta and Baines with players like Yobo, Howard, Lescott and Yakubu. Hopefully we get the right blend.
Your attacking midfielder doesn’t have to be tall despite what people think, Fabregas and Scholes prove that. If your good enough height isn’t an issue.
There’s no doubting we need a bigger DEFENSIVE MIDFIELDER. Someone with height who has the physical ability to mix it. From what I’ve read and heard where currently looking at Stephane Mbia who fits the bill, so really Moyes is looking at the right areas and knows what needs to be added.
People give the likes of Pienaar, Osman and Arteta a hard time on here desite the fact that there players who like to play football on the deck and are always positive. I remember going to games where we had dogs of war in midfield and to be honest the football was terrible, I think where lucky that we actually have players who want to entertain and give value for money. Just my opinion like.
It’s all about getting the right balance really, players like Pienaar, Arteta and Baines with players like Yobo, Howard, Lescott and Yakubu. Hopefully we get the right blend.
I saw the game and thought we did pretty well overall. Rodwell in particular impressed me. Assuming we get the rumoured additions we are hopefully about to secure (M’Bia, Moutinho, Smith, Milito), injuries permitting I think we are set to have a GREAT season with a trophy AND top four realistic aims.
COYB!
COYB!
I must have watched a different game to some of you. Playing against the Dutch Champions I saw Arteta, Pienaar and Osman running at players and beating them time after time. I even saw Phil Neville put in a couple of decent crosses. On a day that saw Arsenal held by Sevilla and Blackburn held by NAC we really didn?t do that badly.
The main problem we had was trying to link the defence to the midfield, to many balls were given away putting them straight back on the attack and our midfielders chasing round the pitch. Hopefully that is where M'Bia will improve things.
The main problem we had was trying to link the defence to the midfield, to many balls were given away putting them straight back on the attack and our midfielders chasing round the pitch. Hopefully that is where M'Bia will improve things.
Rodwell & Gosling are NOT the answer to our midfield problems.... let's not anyone (fans, manager, chairman) pretend they are. We need top class reinforcements and fucking quickly if were are to avoid enduring another pre-season of missed opportunty a la 2004-05 and another season of heartbreak and disappointment.
We just didn?t look a goal threat against PSV and this is surely highlighted by the fact that the player fouled for the penalty was a central defender dribbling into the box. Both Moyes and more importantly Kenwright have got to get their fingers out this week.
Betty Waring ... Agent Johnson told us we were all going to be ?pleasantly surprised? ten years ago and we?re still waiting.
WORDS MEAN NOTHING, WE WANT, WE NEED, WE DEMAND ACTION!!
Can anyone tell me how much money is in the kitty for new players? £50 mill from the Prem they say. Say £8 mill for johnson, Uefa Cup must of been worth at least £10 mill, they nearly had a full house all season and then you have the Uefa Cup this year another £10 mill, and sponsorship on top. We must be talking £70 to £80 mill, at least there should be £40 mill in the pot for Moyes. Can anyone put some light on it for me please because were not getting any sense out of Kenwright.
Stephen
Premier League money is about £40M. The Uefa Cup was worth £400k in prize money (yes, really). Gate receipts are a little below £20M a season, and we make about £5M to £6M on Sponsorship, mechandise etc.
That?s a total of £65M-ish in total income last season (we will have exact figures in a few months when the accounts are published).
Wages last season will have been around £50m. We have other costs of about £12m, and interest payments on loans of around £4m.
Ergo, the club has no money other than what it makes through player sales.
Premier League money is about £40M. The Uefa Cup was worth £400k in prize money (yes, really). Gate receipts are a little below £20M a season, and we make about £5M to £6M on Sponsorship, mechandise etc.
That?s a total of £65M-ish in total income last season (we will have exact figures in a few months when the accounts are published).
Wages last season will have been around £50m. We have other costs of about £12m, and interest payments on loans of around £4m.
Ergo, the club has no money other than what it makes through player sales.
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